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The Train Keeps On Rolling...

Today's sideshow was epitomized by four men we saw sitting in the lower LF corner box seats -- three of them wearing Michael Barrett jerseys, the fourth wearing an A. J. Pierzynski jersey. They were good-naturedly ribbing each other, and fortunately, no fight broke out -- either there or anywhere else in the stands. Pierzynski himself even got hit by a pitch -- a Sean Marshall curveball, of all things -- and no brawls or other hoopla occurred.

The Sox fans in attendance -- who had to number at least half the crowd, maybe 60%, far more than ANY Cubs/Sox game at Wrigley Field since interleague play began -- cheered loudly for their favorites, booed Barrett (just as Cub fans booed Pierzynski), and then collectively yawned as the White Sox Express rolled over the Cubs effortlessly 6-2 this afternoon.

It's not just the Cubs, either. Between the Twins, Tigers and White Sox, the top three teams in the AL Central are now 39-7 against the NL this season. That accounts for all of the difference (but for one game) in the 128-75 advantage the AL has in interleague play this season.

It was yet another game I had to leave early to report to work, and this time, I was almost glad of it. The game slogged along -- the first inning alone took almost 45 minutes -- and it had barely finished the fifth when the time came to go.

Sean Marshall pitched credibly, going six innings and allowing four runs. Unfortunately, three of those were in that ridiculously long first inning, when he allowed five hits, all of them hit hard. The Cubs got two runs back right away, but again, depressingly, as they have all year, left runners stranded on second and third. They also left RISP in the fifth, sixth, seventh and ninth innings -- by the ninth it was too late, after Juan Uribe's two-run HR put the game out of reach.

You know what this team reminds me of? The 1987 Cleveland Indians. I remember the cover of Sports Illustrated's baseball preview issue that year; the Indians, with several good young players including the just-acquired ex-Cub Joe Carter, Cory Snyder, Brett Butler and a kid who's still playing 19 years later, Julio Franco, had won 84 games in 1986 after a 100-loss season in '85, and were picked by SI to win the World Series.

Now, the Cubs weren't supposed to be that good this year, we all know that. And they don't have that young nucleus, either. But the 1987 Indians lost 101 games, mainly because their pitching staff was atrocious -- they allowed a shockingly large 957 runs. And this Cub pitching staff is getting there; the problem is made worse by the fact that the offense is far worse than that 1987 Cleveland team, which scored 742 runs.

You can see that just by comparing them with this year's White Sox.

The White Sox lead the majors with 458 runs scored (including today).

The Cubs are last in the majors with 310 runs scored (including today).

That's 148 runs difference -- ALMOST TWO RUNS PER GAME.

I think we all know the reasons for this difference, and don't have to rehash it here. It's clear, even with Juan Pierre playing better lately, that the Cubs need people who can get on base, whether by hits OR walks. We had a lot of debate today, Phil, Dave & I, on whether the Cubs should re-sign Pierre to a one-year contract.

I say no. There are other options. This team has to be retooled, and Dave, for one, says that if Pierre continues to play well, the White Sox might even be interested. Good. Perhaps the Cubs could package Bob Howry with him and get some real, good young pitching talent in return; Lance Broadway and Ray Liotta were suggested to me. Dave even came up with the novel idea that the Cubs could look into reacquiring Jon Garland -- since he seems to have fallen into some disfavor on the South Side -- because the Sox want bullpen help and are likely ready to move Brandon McCarthy into the rotation.

Food for thought.

Probably not food for thought for the White Sox, though; Brian Anderson, though he's hitting at Neifi levels, uncorked a bullet of a throw to third base in the first inning; it didn't get Aramis Ramirez, who was hustling, but all of us were impressed by the strength AND accuracy of Anderson's arm. Pierre, though, might be worth sending to the White Sox as a rent-a-player, and they could give Anderson another half-year in Triple-A.

On the other hand, the White Sox are winning the way things are.

Hadn't meant to make this such a White Sox-centric post, but that's about the way things are in this town, and in this game, right now. The Sox are hot; the Cubs are an afterthought.

Finally, Sox reserve Pablo Ozuna led off the game with a single; he then had to leave with a minor hamstring tweak. He is now 38-for-88, .432. It is believed that the player with the most at-bats with a .400 season average since Ted Williams in 1941, is Bob "Hurricane" Hazle, who was 54-for-134 (.403) for the pennant-winning 1957 Milwaukee Braves. Ozuna's got a shot at a .400 average with close to that many AB's, assuming he plays as much in the second half as the first.

I promise -- more Cub stuff tomorrow. A win would be nice. The Cubs finish June 9-18, which makes them 16-40 for May and June, as brutally bad as the 40-15 May and June 1977 were good.

Finally, it was nice to meet BCB reader ontheuptick and a couple of his buddies who sat with us today.

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Did Baker actually......
cry in the postgame interview??? There's a big rumor that he did over at Cubs.com. Can anyone shed any light on this??
I just read
pierres comments about the play at the plate,  I am so sick of these giving same "we just didnt get the break" or "it really could have gone either" crap.  I wish they would at least speak their minds
Just what is it...
... that you'd like them to say?
something
along the lines of "that was a terrible call"
Which results in pissing off the ump
Best thing in these situations is to mumble
something of meaningless frustration. No need
to make an ememy of umps and they do remember
umm
that should read "it really could have gone either way"
I don't know what
depresses me more - the Cubs or that there were more WS fans at Wrigley.

60% !?!

Yes, unfortunately...
... the Sox fans were in LOUD evidence today.
Did
anyone else hear Phil Garner on PTI the other day talking about yelling at umps?
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Sometimes there isn't much for a player to say after a game, maybe they see it as a few close breaks that didn't go their way?  After losing to big rival, packed house and all I suspect that many Cubs players don't feel like saying anything.

In the original post there was mention of a discussion regarding signing Pierre to a 1 year.  I am against this, but if it is done then Pierre needs to be treated more as a potential platoon player or as a guy who hits 8th until he gets it back, assuming he ever does.  We can't keep giving away outs to a spot that gets the most plate appearances over the season.  This has to stop, so before anyone asks me to list who we should get to replace Pierre, in the event that we get no one, just bat anyone--even Lee--leadoff--who has a significantly better OBP than Pierre.  If I were managing I'd do this today, but that would go against all thing sacred (and stupid) in baseball thinking.

At least the Sox bat Anderson down in the lineup.  the guy is dreadful offensively and can't possibly make enough plays defensively (there are not enough balls hit to him in a game that an average defender would not get to) to warrant playing such an awful player.  But Anderson appears to be Ozzie's Neifi.  The Sox need to start thinking of replacing him soon because they need the bat for the playoffs.  Pierre looks like Tony Gwynn compared to Anderson.  Perhaps Hendry can work something if Pierre stays hot this series?

good news
(no, not the geico thing)

even though we're on pace for a 59-103 record, our projected pythagorrean record based on run differential is 60-102, which essentially means we've been unlucky, and we should have one more win. well, actually a half a win now, which would project out to one more win.

this team is so bad it hurts.

more good news. we're projected to score 639 runs, and that isn't a mlb record. its almost double the record. that bad news is it would be fewer than the most offensively inept team of last year. also, our projected run differential deficit of 192 runs wold smash last years worst run differential.

That's roughly equivalent...
... to the deficit the 1987 Indians, who I mentioned in the original post, had.

This team COULD have been better, but with the offense they have, they'd have needed absolutely outstanding, top-of-the-league pitching, and it's not even close to that.

The State of the Cubs
Not only don't the Cubs have an offense, but their once ballyhooed starting pitching lies in tatters.  Kerry Wood busted out and is gone at the end of the year.  Mark Prior is Mark Fydrich.  Greg Maddux is nearing the end of a great, Hall of Fame career.  The hot shot "can't miss" pitching arms in the minors (Bobby Brownlie, Rich Hill, Angel Guzman, Luke Hagerty, Chadd Blasko, Ben Christensen) have all missed, and missed badly.  Sean Marshall and Carlos Marmol look, at best, interesting.  Whether either can become quality enough major league starting pitchers is an open question mark.  

The only starting pitcher to feel truly good about heading into the future is Carlos Zambrano.  And the irony is it might take trading Zambrano to get a legitimate rebuilding program going because he is one of the few guys with top shelf value along with Derrek Lee.  

Jim Hendry needs to get down from his barstool, sober up and come to grips with the reality of the situation.  There can be no possible way the "solution" to this mess is going out and signing or trading for a player or two.  

But Z...
is young.  I, of course, would never trade him.

Who would you trade him for?

Z
The Cubs are God awful.  As much as I hate the notion, if I were GM i'd seriously explore trading Carlos Zambrano and Derrek Lee.  Why you ask!?!?!  Because, similar to Dontrelle Willis and Miguel Cabrera in Florida, these are the two guys on the roster that have humongous trade value and will net a king's ransom in return.  If there was a team willing to give up 3 top flight prospects for Zambrano or Lee, your dang sure I'd seriously consider it.  Oakland traded Mark Mulder to St. Louis and netted starting pitcher Danny Haren, reliever Kiko Calero and 1st base prospect Daric Barton.  Haren is rapidly becoming a stud pitcher and Barton is envisioned to be an exceptional .300 plus type hitter in the majors very soon.  And Calero is a good relief pitcher as a bonus.  If Mulder can net that package, imagine what Zambrano could net.  Or Derrek Lee.  

I'm sick of this B.S.  It is time to build a baseball team in the proper frickin fashion and enough with this "band-aid approach" combined with "cross our fingers on a few players."  Lets take a page from Oakland, Detroit and Florida.  Lets blow this damned thing up and build it right from the beginning.  When the team is ready to be competitive in a few years, then open up the checkbook to sign key guys long-term and to go out and acquire a couple extra studs to get over the hump.  

Dave Drombowski
Okay, if you are going to blow up the team and start over, then you need to get a GM who is a great talent evaluator and is a shrewd dealmaker.  Is there any possible way that the Cubs could get Drombowski to be the GM for after this season?

He's built winners in Florida and Detroit.  Didn't he work for the Sox at one time?  If I'm right on that, then he has some ties to the city and might have fond memories of his time here.

I don't know what his contract situation is with the Tigers.  He might not be available at all.  I've heard of teams making trades for managers, but never for a GM.  But with Drombowski, it might be worth looking into.

I just don't think Hendry is capable of building a team from scratch.  None of the guys that he has drafted have amounted to much.

Frank

It's "Dombrowski"...
... and given the Tigers' success, I imagine they'll lock him up into a longterm deal.

In any case, REALITY: Jim Hendry got a two-year extension. Yes, he's done a poor job this year. But the fact is, he's not going anywhere.

Mea Culpa
Pardon the error on the spelling there.  Al, if every decision the Cubs and the Tribune Company is based on MONEY instead of WINNING, then the Cubs are never going to be winners.  

Hendry has had his chance to prove that he could build a good ball club.  It's time for him to go.  And the guy that gave him an extension should go too.  That would be Andy MacPhail.  A few million dollars wasted to pay off their contracts shouldn't be that big of a deal.

Frank

This club...
... won't even eat Glendon Rusch's deal and you expect them to eat the GM's?

Whether or not it SHOULD happen is debatable. But the FACT is, it's not going to happen.

A statistical note
.... the Cubs won only one home game in June.

That is the fewest home wins in any month in franchise history (minimum 10 to 12 home games in the month).

From the Cubs website:

The previous low for a minimum of 10 to 12 games was two wins in September 1901 (2-9), June 1954 (2-10), April 1987 (2-8), and August 1994 (2-8). The Cubs played 11 games in June this year.
Seriously, if it weren't for the World Cup
I'd find the time to do something productive, but it's tough watching my Cubbies these days.
the two run differential
Those extra two runs would've turned around a lot of the 1 run losses we've taken on this year. BTW what's our record in 1 run games? (I'm too lazy at the moment to look it up)

And re: Ray Liotta of the W.Sox- any relation to the eponymous actor?

One run game record..
... 5-14. By far the worst in baseball. Next worst is the Marlins at 8-15.

Even the Royals are better: 9-11.

Yes, the pitcher Ray Liotta is related to the actor. They are cousins.

Something else I learned...
... in reading the bio of Ray Liotta, the actor.

He was married (now divorced) to Michelle Grace -- Mark Grace's first wife.

$94,841,166 payroll for a team like this?
This is my first time commenting on this site, and I'm not a cub fan either, being born in Roswell Georgia.  It wasn't until CliffX posted that phrase from lee elia, that I felt, it was time for me to contribute.  I grew up watching the Braves play, and moved to Chicago because of school.  We should all remember what they were like in the 90's, just dominant pitching.  Being surronded at work and in the NW suburbs by Cubs fans, usually tests my patience on most days of the regular season.  But what this team needs is for Lee Elia to return, or some variation of him.
There is no one on the Cubs roster, or in management that seems to care about their record this season.  I could right all day about what needs to be done to fix this season, but I really do enjoy watching them lose.  It suits this team, and every Cub fan out there, you deserve to have a season like this.  I've been here for close to 10 years now, and at the start of every season, it's the same thing.  No leadoff man, and no bullpen.  I heard a great line from Tom Waddell a few weeks back on the radio.  He was asked if he would come out and watch the Cubs play at Wrigley, he responded by asking "Why would he pay $100 for his family to just get into the park, and watch crap baseball?"  I grew up spoiled by watching Mazzone/Cox bring up powerhouse teams every year.
Why watch a team that has to have their "rookie" starters basically throw a shutout to have any chance of winning?  I want to see someone on this roster that believes in this team, and I don't mean some wanna be punk Michael Barrett throw some cheap shot off a clean play.  Every team in this league has an all-star on it, someone the rookies and even veterans look to, for the standard of excellance.  There is no one that is going to fill in on this team, doesn't it bother any of the Cub fans on this site, that Jim Thome was begging to be on this franchise.
Two simple words
Derrek Lee. If you don't know that that's what he means to this club, then you really must not pay attention to the Cubs. That said, his absence alone does not account for this season's wretched state. That's on the manager, the coaches, the rest of the players, and the GM. And much as I like Thome, I'll take Lee over him any day...less injury history and comparable ceiling, with better defense. Incidentally, how are you enjoying the Braves' season this year? I suppose Braves fans deserved a season like this to see that going to the playoffs every year isn't a birthright.
I pay attention to the Cubs
And Dlee's absence wasn't the Cub's problem.  This team would be a forth place team if Lee played 162 games.  This team was poorly constructed and relied on oft injured starting pitchers not to repeat their history of injury.  The bench is weak as is the outfield.  It's time to blow it up, but I don't trust the management to do it correctly.
Yep, blame the builder, not the manager
The Cubs made a mistake by signing Jm Hendry too soon after the season started. He built this team and spent $94+ million of Tribune money in the process. While Pierre and Jones are looking better lately, this team feels so much like other crappy teams in the league it makes me sick!

If the Tribune isn't going to put us out of our misery by selling this team, they should at least overhaul it and spend more money on it. The Cubs need to be at the Mets and Red Sox level payroll-wise in 2007 or why bother? And if they're not, fans should boycott Wrigley. That's easy for me to say, I live in Southern California, but I won't go to a Cubs game here or anywhere else until I see them care about winning and make a committment to it, not just pay lipservice to it.

Every year, the Cubs sell hope to their fans. My favorite example is 2004, right after they BLEW the pennant (not Bartman, btw, that's ridiculous). They had a chance to sign Ivan Rodriguez and Greg Maddux. Why didn't they? They didn't want to spend the money. Think Rodriguez wouldn't have meant quite a few more wins? That team would have gone to the playoffs and it's a crying shame that they didn't.

Every year, the Cubs let stars walk because they don't want to spend the money. So why should fans spend the money to see them?

After 99 years WINNING IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS. Everything else is just BS!!!!!!

It's too bad the Cub's top brass
don't read this site. What I've read in this thread is spot on. It captures the love and frustration and insight of loyal Cub fans. The reality of this team, as viewed by a fan since my dad cursed me back in 1968, is that they will NOT blow up this team, or admit defeat, or admit their complete rudderlessness. I'd be surprised if we're not seeing Ramirez, D Lee, Prior, and Zambrano next year for sure. Probably Cedeno, Howry, Eyre, Dempster, Marmol, Marshall, and Pie too. The Cubs, from what I've seen, don't make dramatic moves.
Sadly, you are probably right
In spite of the obvious holes in this roster, Hendry will try and patch it.  I'm sure we'll see a Cliff Floyd type in LF next year.  Maybe Mark Mulder on the mound.  Mulder would be a perfect fit.  He can rehab with Wood, Prior and Miller.  Then Hendry can pencil them in for 30 starts each.  That's all Hendry can do, he's not a good enough GM to develop an overall plan and approach and stick with it.  

Hendry is really awful.  I lay 90% of this failure on him.  While Dusty shouldn't be playing Neifi, how many more wins would he really have if he batted Womack or Bynum instead of Perez.  The roster is still a bad team.    

Compare Hendry to Williams
Kenny Williams seems to understand exactly what his team needs. Win a World Series? OK. Let's win another! So he goes and makes his team even better by making gutsy moves and trades and signings.

Hendry? He takes chances on injured pitchers (because they're cheap) and trades for players who don't help the team at all. Then he signs outfielders prone to strikeout and utility players who can't play.

As I've said before, Dusty is to blame for not getting the most out of this team. However, Tony La Russa wouldn't have made this group into winners.

Agreed.
Williams is very aggressive and takes chances.

The Thome deal COULD have been a bust, if Thome had been still injured. Williams rolled the dice and won.

Hendry has to learn lessons from this.

Aramis!!!!!
3 run HR.....5-3 Good Guys ;).

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