Patterson will wear uniform No. 3 and looks to make his major league debut tonight in Houston when the Cubs face the Astros at 7:05 p.m. CT.
The Cubs haven't played in the Juice Box in Houston for almost a year -- the last Cubs game there was on August 16, 2006, the storybook start of Ryan O'Malley. That entire series was memorable, a Cub sweep: a 3-0 shutout anchored by Carlos Zambrano and an 18-inning win with Rich Hill getting the win in relief were the other two games.
Much has changed for the Cubs since then; even after that sweep they were sixteen games under .500. Meanwhile, the Astros have played poor baseball all year, though better at home (28-25) than on the road (20-38, the worst road record in the NL).
Tonight's Astros starter epitomizes that record. After a disappointing homestand, I'd like to see the Cubs go at least 4-3 on this trip, while the Brewers are going 3-4 (or better yet, 2-5).
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In addition to the relief appearance in the 18-inning game mentioned above, Rich Hill has one other career relief appearance against Houston. This will be his first start against the Astros; only Brad Ausmus (1-for-1) has had a hit off him.
Today's game is cable-only in both home markets, so check the Mediacenter.
MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)
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MLB.com Gameday for the Brewers/Rockies game
For the Astros fan point of view on this series, please visit my SB Nation counterpart The Crawfish Boxes. Please. They seem kind of lonely over there.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Wade Miller
I thought he could have been a better pitcher and help this team out. He is just Prior 2.0 apparently.Chanman25 - August 6, 2007
So now that Dopirak is DFA'd...
what happens to him?Krande - August 6, 2007
Options
can be traded, sent down to minors, or just releasedChanman25 - August 6, 2007
Minors?
He already is in the minors - in single A. A trade is a possibility, but being released outright is extremely unlikely for Dopirak.big_lowitzki - August 6, 2007
What happens...
He gets placed on waivers, and any team can claim him.If he clears waivers, he stays with the Cubs but is no longer on the 40 man roster.
big_lowitzki - August 6, 2007
But doesn't everyone love this?
You read about a player two or three years earlier and wonder when they will reach the majors and finally they do! Same with Pie and Guzman.Chanman25 - August 6, 2007
Agreed.
It'll be fun to finally get a look at E-Patt after hearing so much about him this year. This part of the year does make baseball fun, when you get to see the new guys everyone's talked about. I hope E-Patt lives up to all of it! The Cubs could use a pick-me-up like that...gary varsho - August 6, 2007
August 2006
My former boyfriend - an Astro's fan - broke up with me on my B-day, 4 days before that 2006 series. And my Great, Wonderful Cub team kicked his team's ass !!! Just another reason I love the Cubs..coral - August 6, 2007
Good to see you are not bitter. :)
MetsSuck - August 6, 2007
Yeah, although Cub Nation
was totally bummed over 2006, I was so proud because of that series !!!!coral - August 6, 2007
What an ass
that guy had to be to break up with you on your birthday. When it's over it's over, but he should at least have the decency to get you a gift and break up a couple days later. I hope you rubbed the sweep in his face just a little.I once had a girl tell me she was seeing someone else on Valentine's day after I had already made plans for us. Ouch...
26.2cubfan - August 6, 2007
What time do we usually get lineups....
I am pretty curious for tonightsBillHoldenFan - August 6, 2007
I don't think EPatt will start
Think it'll be the same ole' guys out there in R/L fields.SouthernBrees - August 6, 2007
True
But Patterson's team played a day game and the Cubs players finished a Sunday night game around 10:00pm. That's not quite like having to rest Aramis on day games following night games, but still it's something to consider.IllinoisCubs - August 6, 2007
Good point
Maybe we'll see him in a pinch hitting role, just to get his feet wet.SouthernBrees - August 6, 2007
I suspect you're right...
I expect we see Theriot and Fontenot batting 1/2, and some combination of Floyd/Murton/DeRosa/Pagan in RF and LF.I hope I'm wrong, as I'd like to see what the kid can do. But Lou has a tendency to be tight with the PT for youngsters, so I wouldn't be shocked if Patterson is relegated to bench duty.
SouthernCub - August 6, 2007
Floyd/Murton/DeRosa/Pagan
Hopefully we get all fourBillHoldenFan - August 6, 2007
I read the write up of the Cubs/Mets game
in the LA Times today. It was the Newsday (actually Ny Newsday, I'm sure) wire. The article was 20% devoted to how the Mets scored and 80% devoted to quotes about Glavine. Nothing about Soriano and his key (from the Cub's standpoint) injury. Typical NY-centric coverage of a game.I couldn't help but think this was fitting coverage of this game. Maybe this will have the nice "Karma" impact on the Cubs that we need in that (a) our new lead-off hitter and call up will spark this team and (b) Soriano's late season return will haunt the Mets.
As Cub fans, all we can do is hope. This just adds to my dislike of the Mets and the "the world revolves around me" NY media.
LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
Well...
... I hate to tell you, but Glavine winning 300 is a MUCH bigger deal than Soriano getting injured.big_lowitzki - August 6, 2007
Yes, it is.
But you'd think an injury to a star player making as much money as Soriano is would at least rate a mention.Al Yellon - August 6, 2007
The same unfortunate omission...
happened on the story on the Ap wire that appeared today in a lot of papers aound the country.Fraggin Judge - August 6, 2007
Well duh...
But to have 25 paragraphs on Glavine and zero on Soriano's injury, was classic NY coverage. Don't apologize unless you read the lousy article.LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
Well...
... lets see. It was an article by a NY paper, about a player on a NY team, reaching one of the most impressive milestones in modern baseball.What do you expect?
Few people around the country care that Soriano hurt his quad.
big_lowitzki - August 6, 2007
The LA Times...
...is a New York paper?cwyers - August 6, 2007
Read?
Did you read the original comment? Or the article?The article was not written by an LA Times reporter. It was written by a Newsday reporter. The LA Times just picked it up off the wire.
big_lowitzki - August 6, 2007
The Tribune
should have intervened!TheEman - August 6, 2007
There were many elements
...to this game. The most important was Glavine's 300th victory and most writers covered that angle.But also Kerry Wood made his season debut. And this was important to Cub fans.
Soriano getting hurt was the top angle for Cub fans. I think Lou put Kerry into the game to give the fans something to cheer about.
Then what about the plate umpire who got smacked in the face with a foul ball? That was kind of an unusual event.
Butchoh31 - August 6, 2007
Both
the LA Times and Newsday are owned, like the Cubs, by the Tribune Corporation.The Tribune has fired a ton of reporters and told them to just run crap from other Tribune-owned papers instead because it's cheaper.
It's also a big reason why I cancelled my subscription. The Tribune took a great newspaper and turned it into a piece of mediocre crap.
I'd like to say they did the same for the Cubs, but the Cubs were godawful terrible before the Trib bought them.
That's how bad the Cubs were under the Wrigleys. The Tribune made them better.
Josh Timmers - August 6, 2007
There was a very extensive
"Front Line" report that aired on PBS this past season dealing with the a local LA businessman trying to wrest it from the Tribune - as you know, this did not pan out unfortunately.TheEman - August 6, 2007
That's how it works
The AP has been running multiple stories about "the milestone chase" that has been going on recently. The story about the game in which Bonds hit his 755th home run was focussed on the homer, mainly. The story about the game in which A-Rod hit his 500th HR, more about the homer than the game... I'm not saying it's the best thing in the world, but many times the reporter is looking for an angle, something to separate the game from countless other game stories. Thus, the coverage on the milestone. It wasn't that remarkable a game, was it? Can you blame the writer for making the story about Glavine? I don't think it's NY-centricism, in either the piece you are referring to or the AP story, it's just looking for the "big story" and focusing on it. Sells papers.cervantes05 - August 6, 2007
"Dopirate"
It's sad about Dopirak - when he was playing in Spring Training last year, every time they called his name, people did kept doing the Pirate 'garrrr'. That would have been fun for a bit at the big league level. I guess it saves us from getting sick of it, though.TMOX - August 6, 2007
Jim Rose on ABC7 is....
a jerk. On reporting about Soriano he states "basic tenent of going to the post season is to stay healthy - all great teams do". So our local sports guy has basically considered the Cubs not a great team when we haven't even seen the result of these developments.coral - August 6, 2007
I would disagree
Completely. The best thing that good teams do is play THROUGH injuries. Every team gets them. It's just a question of which and how important the players that it happens to are and how the team as a whole plays through them and continues winning.SouthernBrees - August 6, 2007
all great teams do?
does he not remember last year when pujols went on the DL and the cardinals won, or how the colts lost Bob Sanders, their best defensive safety, and still won the super bowl? i dont like local sports "experts", they all seem to lack in basic knowledgeNDcubsfan - August 6, 2007
He's just a terrible sports reporter
He sounds as if he hasn't watched a game in yearscoral - August 6, 2007
The Bears
The Bears lost their 2nd best player imo Tommie Harris and went to the Super Bowl.Of course the defense played like swiss cheese in the super bowl and Peyton Manning had them for lunch while Grossman was losing his lunch but they made it.
puckishcubsfan - August 6, 2007
yup
harris is an animalNDcubsfan - August 6, 2007
I live in Texas
and cant tell you how much I HATE the Crapstros. I hope we beat them silly tonight. The bandwagon jumping got WAY out of control after 2005 and people I knew claiming to be Rangers fans were all the sudden Crapstros fans. God, I hope we bludgeon them tonight.jshipp - August 6, 2007
And dont even get me started...
on their tittie baby tv broadcast crew. UGH!!!jshipp - August 6, 2007
Um...
... that's an inappropriate comment. You may not like the Astros TV crew, but "tittie baby" is something I'd rather you not use here any more.Thanks.
Al Yellon - August 6, 2007
really?
I dont think its offensive at all.mikew - August 6, 2007
Wow.
Really?jshipp - August 6, 2007
I could think of a million
worse things to call Hawk Harrelson.jshipp - August 6, 2007
That's nice to know.
Feel free to use all of them. Just don't do it here.Al Yellon - August 6, 2007
Why not call up Pie
I don't understand why they didn't call up Pie. Is Patterson going to play CF? He's a second baseman.Don't we already have too many middle infielders between Theriot, Fontenot and Derosa?
Tim Madrid - August 6, 2007
He's a (BAD) second baseman
Fumbles, drops, E-4, E-4, E-4TheEman - August 6, 2007
Lineup...I just threw up on my shoe
Name AVG HR RBI SBakcubfan - August 6, 2007
Right handed lineup
vs. the Houston lefty.Butchoh31 - August 6, 2007
OY VEY!
On the bright side for the players, if this stinks, no one will be around to boo.TheEman - August 6, 2007
Just Noticed - Cedeno @ 2nd?!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!I lost it on him when he avoided a hard slide on a steal attempt last year when he played against the Mets.
He was afraid, and instead of laying the glove there which beat the runner - he pulls out. Ugh!
OMG.
TheEman - August 6, 2007
nice....
Those comments by Lee and Floyd still really buggin me...JB 23 - August 6, 2007
You do know
the Astros are throwing a lefty tonight, right?That seems like a pretty standard lineup for us without Soriano and with a lefty on the mound. I might move Murton to #2 and bad Cedeño lower, but batting Murton #5 makes sense too.
Josh Timmers - August 6, 2007
Yep. Agreed.
Murton at 5 I would feel much more comfortable with.TheEman - August 6, 2007
so batting the guy
with the .143 average in the 2 hole is the new secret to beating lefties?akcubfan - August 6, 2007
I'm not that fond of Cedeno either.
But geez, the guy's on the roster. He was raking in AAA just like Soto and Murton and Pie and every other player everyone here seems to want recalled.If he's on the roster, every now and then he should start. Tonight's a good time to do that vs. a LHP.
I imagine we'll see Patterson making several starts this roadtrip, perhaps as soon as tomorrow.
Al Yellon - August 6, 2007
I'm not saying he shouldn't start
he just shouldn't bat in the 2 spot. He's a mental error waiting to happen both in the field and on the base path (if he is able to get that far).akcubfan - August 6, 2007
although his play in the field has nothing to do
with his spot in the lineup...akcubfan - August 6, 2007
Oh, I agree...
... I wouldn't hit him 2nd, either. In that lineup, I'd hit Cedeno 8th and Kendall 2nd.But maybe he'll surprise us tonight and play well.
Yes, I mean you. Stop snickering! ;)
Al Yellon - August 6, 2007
id rather see pagan
in the 2-hole than cedeno.tbizzle83 - August 6, 2007
What a strange lineup.
I hope it works.phat
phatass - August 6, 2007
What did
Fontenot do to be held out of the lineup again? Especially when he's a better fit in the 2-spot than Cedeno, and a better second baseman too!We'd be better of shipping Cedeno to anywhere else...
rrobinson - August 6, 2007
Lou's employing an all RH lineup
vs. a LHP. Fonty's a LH, therefore, he sits tonight.gary varsho - August 6, 2007
These all RH lineups against LH
pitchers are a big 0-??. We have yet to produce a victory that I can recall with these all RH line ups. I agree with Bob Brenley's thinking that the lefty pitcher can get too comfortable with hitting his spots without a couple of lefties mixed in.The other thing I don't like is this leaves Lou with very few RH options off the bench late in the game when we need pinch hitters (and with R. Hill, we usually need a few pinch hitters). I tend to not second-guess Lou and I hope this all RH line up FINALLY works against Wandy "You can't beat me at home" Rodriguez.
It would be nice to get this road trip off to a positive start!!
LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
Fontenot's platoon splits:
Vs. Righties:.339/.397/.504
Vs. Lefties:
.227/.265/.364
cwyers - August 6, 2007
His splits against LHP's
are still 80 points higher than Cedeno's total.MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
ugly lineup.
if you're going to bring patterson up, at least put him in there instead of cedeno. if his defense is that bad, then why the hell bring him up. why not bring up the guy who can actually play defense, and play it better than our current guys (i.e. pie)?buckmulligan - August 6, 2007
I would assume....
...that with Patterson called up, we're going to see a lot of DeRosa in right, Floyd in left?carmenfanzone - August 6, 2007
Bad idea ( DeRosa in RF)
I watched him in the OF in spring training and it is NOT hisstrong suite. I would not play him there except in extreme situations.
This does seem like the most bizarre line up of the year
FYI
jessica - August 6, 2007
DeRosa has played...
...numerous games in RF since spring training for us. Kindof odd to evaluate him based on ST now.cwyers - August 6, 2007
Did you mean someone else?
Did you mean someone else perhaps?DeRosa has played numerous times in RF. He's no Andre Dawson but comports himself okay.
puckishcubsfan - August 6, 2007
Oh I have seen since Spring Training
That was just where I got the feeling the OF was not for him( except in pinch) I doubt it effected the game but he fielded poorly last night. He can make a few good plays but all things considered I would seriously prefer JJ or Floyd out there and I know that is scary.
jessica - August 6, 2007
Wandy Rodriguez scary
in the "Astrodome".DIG This:
IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA
66.2 48 13 13 4 14 56 1.76 0.93 .202
Pretty scary, here.
TheEman - August 6, 2007
Wandy Rodriguez
is also an awesome human being who travels around the world in his spare time helping old ladies cross the street and giving them money.jshipp - August 6, 2007
After tonights start Wandy Rodriquez
Will single handedly repair the I-35W bridge in Minneapolis and it will be completed by his next start.What a guy
jessica - August 6, 2007
The Virgin Islands had to change their name to
The Islands after being visited by Wandy.akcubfan - August 6, 2007
Wandy
The secret is the Rex Grossman of the first 5 games of last season was Wandy in disguise.But after that Wandy had to save the world and alas Rex stepped in.
puckishcubsfan - August 6, 2007
HA HA!!
LOL!TheEman - August 6, 2007
I heard....
that Superman wears Wandy Rodriquez pajamas.coral - August 6, 2007
LOL!
I literally just laughed out loud. I am now getting weird looks from others in my office...Tangled Up In Blue - August 6, 2007
same here
I'm trying to explain it to my little kids who are asking why I'm laughing at the computer!Kudos!
Ghost of Fred Merkle - August 6, 2007
oh my, that is funny...
JB 23 - August 6, 2007
Thank god
this is the only lefty we'll see for awhile. jeebus, what a line-up...Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
Wandy
Wandy IS Chuck Norris in disguise.puckishcubsfan - August 6, 2007
No.
Wandy Rodriguez is Moses.TheEman - August 6, 2007
No.
Wandy Rodriguez is the reincarnation of the Enlightened Buddha and the representation to all mankind of the Hindu deity Vishnu--both in one single human form.zevkalman - August 6, 2007
No.
Wandy Rodriguez is Max Power.gary varsho - August 6, 2007
nice pull!
:)ilovepie - August 6, 2007
HA!
NDcubsfan - August 6, 2007
I could be mistaken, but
wasn't that a Wandy Rodriguez BLIMP by Oak Street Beach, today?TheEman - August 6, 2007
No
wandy slams revolving doorsNDcubsfan - August 6, 2007
He once went to the Virgin Islands for a week.
Once he left, it was just called The Islands.NittanyCub - August 6, 2007
Umm..Sorry...
akcubfan used this one already.Perhaps you are thinking of a DIFFERENT Wandy Rodriguez?
TheEman - August 6, 2007
Someone
already told that joke.Josh Timmers - August 6, 2007
Dang, didn't see it
NevermindNittanyCub - August 6, 2007
Good news?
Out of the 24 games the Cubs play in August, 18 of them are against teams with worse records than the Cubs.blueapple - August 6, 2007
Lou on Soriano (on pre-game):
Got the results of the MRIHe is "walking normal";
He tore the "belly of the quad"
Trainer says out till "about Labor Day."
JohnM - August 6, 2007
There is only one
move for the Cubs and that is to move forward and that needs to happen tonight. I have faith that they will too.Rich needs to get his head in the game early and leave it there. Nice to see Matt get a chance and I hope he takes advantage of it.
GO CUBS!!!
sue369 - August 6, 2007
cheers to that!
n/tDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Agreed
I am so glad that DLEE is Tall and has the range of Spiderman.TheEman - August 6, 2007
Let's go Cubs !!!
coral - August 6, 2007
astros lineup
i was just looking at the astros lineup tonite. they look kind of stocked. with wigginton at third now...even with everett and pence, this team looks like they might knock us around. hopefully rich proves me wrong...rockpantson - August 6, 2007
I hope
you are being sarcastic.They lead off with Biggio and Loretta. They've got Brad Ausmus and Jason Lane in the lineup.
With the pitcher, over half the lineup isn't anything worth worrying about.
Josh Timmers - August 6, 2007
ugh
MLB.TV is using the Houston feedblueapple - August 6, 2007
Prepare yourself
for 3 hours of sucktitude. Im telling you these guys are one of the worst in the league.jshipp - August 6, 2007
They arent as bad as
I thought they would be. So far praised Lee's bat and power, as well as his speed.We'll see... I might switch to Ron and Pat.
blueapple - August 6, 2007
Yeah, they're probably used
to their team being horribly hideous crap, but at the first of the year I really thought they would break down into tears.jshipp - August 6, 2007
Anyone want to look up Kendall's Avg
as a cub? im being lazyINWes44 - August 6, 2007
.267 with 45 ABs
n/tblueapple - August 6, 2007
Thanks
much appreciatedINWes44 - August 6, 2007
Cedeno -- speed
I like it. I want more of it.zevkalman - August 6, 2007
Hooked on speed
Happend to me tooNIUcubbie - August 6, 2007
atta way ronnie
1st to 3rd babylets get em early!
DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
NOT a strike!
gary varsho - August 6, 2007
Ramirez has been really impatient lately.
gary varsho - August 6, 2007
What a terrible AB by Rammy.
That was not good at all.gary varsho - August 6, 2007
I was at the grocery store,..
and didn't have my Supersaver card. Wandy Rodriguez showed up with his, and saved me $1.88!!TedAbernathy - August 6, 2007
Crap
sue369 - August 6, 2007
well off to a great start again
why the hell cant our useless players like ohman or cedeno tear a quadCubsBall2202 - August 6, 2007
What would have been different
about that inning if Soriano had played?Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
We would be up 1-0
after a Sori solo shot.akcubfan - August 6, 2007
Wishful thinking
n/tNot Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
I'm sorry we can't all live
in a life of self induced depression.akcubfan - August 6, 2007
You mean like
the ledge-jumpers who have been in abundance around here since the Soriano injury?Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
There is
no guarantee that would happen.sue369 - August 6, 2007
rodriguez would have
struck out the side, that's whatvtcub - August 6, 2007
Game is off to a bad start
we just got 4 outs versus a horrible pitcher with the top of our lineup and couldn't scoreadditionally this ump looks like he has a small strike zone especially on the breaking pitches, so that does not bode well for Rich Hill.
On that note the game can start horribly as long as it ends positively with a cubs win, here's hoping for a turn around
INWes44 - August 6, 2007
Wandy is like Koufax at home.
Look it up.Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
why is it that our pitchers always seem to throw
so many damn balls, just let your defense do the work, make them earn itCubsBall2202 - August 6, 2007
where the heck
is the strike zone?DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
and the Walkapalooza starts from Hill
cubsnlinux - August 6, 2007
gonna be on pace for another 30 pitch start
from the headcaseCubsBall2202 - August 6, 2007
Ron really
sounds like he's going to blow a gasket about the umpires.phat
phatass - August 6, 2007
i really hope we pick it up this month for ronnie
he could use itCubsBall2202 - August 6, 2007
Yes.
n/tphatass - August 6, 2007
OK guys
now let's get those bats going.sue369 - August 6, 2007
nice inning rich!
lets go cubsDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
in light of ohman sucking horribly
anyone know how cotts has been doin at iowa? last time i heard he was doin terrible, but maybe its changed?CubsBall2202 - August 6, 2007
I don't think its a mistake
that we keep recalling Cherry.MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
nicely played off the wall
n/tDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Murton played that well
daver - August 6, 2007
It's weird how small that field appears.
It's like a Little League park.Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
kendall....
0-24DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
on the replay
the runner stole that on Hillzevkalman - August 6, 2007
thats fair
but we've allowed 24 SBs in the 15 games (15th tonight) that Kendall has been catching...we've never had that kind of rate with anyone else catching even Barrett who was always lambasted for his poor defense
DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
You're right
n/tzevkalman - August 6, 2007
El Kabong
just kills us.Josh Timmers - August 6, 2007
carlos lee stealin' bags on us?
wtf?rockpantson - August 6, 2007
How much longer til Ronnie makes
an error? Doesnt have one yet, I think I would ve already lost a bet.Me and Lou WS 07 - August 6, 2007
Good catch by murton
miamicanes - August 6, 2007
looks like the posting has slowed tonight....
surprised with a road gameDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
WTF? Where is our left fielder
who bunny hops and plays that catch on a hop?zevkalman - August 6, 2007
You aint getting that past Lee
jshipp - August 6, 2007
nice D that inning!
c'mon cubbies put some on the board!DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
atta Riot!
lets go!DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
i guess a bunch of people hopped off the bandwagon
there's no one here tonightlets go ronnie, right here!
DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Hell yeah
Riot in the house! God I love that kid. He's fast becoming my favorite Cub.SouthernBrees - August 6, 2007
And then
Steals third! WoohoooSouthernBrees - August 6, 2007
woohoo Riot!!!
sue369 - August 6, 2007
God I love that
little Cajun.jshipp - August 6, 2007
neat story about Theriot's DeRosa bats
coral - August 6, 2007
Story
I missed the Theriot-DeRosa story. What was the jist?californiachicagoan - August 6, 2007
GHOST OF BARRETT!!!
TheEman - August 6, 2007
Nice 2b from The Riot
Now at third, lets go Cedeno.Me and Lou WS 07 - August 6, 2007
Nice
phatphatass - August 6, 2007
gosh...
0-2 2 K's with runners on 3rd and 1 outc'mon boys
DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
NOT AAA
Cedeno!TheEman - August 6, 2007
UGH
UGH. Screw you, Ronnie.SouthernBrees - August 6, 2007
Someone posted Fontenot's splits against LHP
which are still 80 points higher than Cedeno's whole avg.MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
Come on
DLEE get her done!SouthernBrees - August 6, 2007
Nice AB Ronny
Not much has changed with you has it?Itchy - August 6, 2007
Fonty would have brought Theriot home
But he's sitting in the dugout. Those Cajun kids don't strike out very much.zevkalman - August 6, 2007
You know it!!
Itchy - August 6, 2007
poop
sue369 - August 6, 2007
3-0 count?
REALLY? Lord.SouthernBrees - August 6, 2007
Cedeno feelin'
the BreesTheEman - August 6, 2007
Well, the problem tonight isn't the top two
It's not getting in the runner from third with fewer than two outs.The middle of the order hasn't done its job.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
Cardinals just dropped a 10-spot
on the Pads. May be able to gain some ground in the wildcard tonight.GoCubsGo! - August 6, 2007
Please stop
counting the chickens...TheEman - August 6, 2007
No chickens
counted. That is why I used the word MAY.It was more of an observation than anything else.
GoCubsGo! - August 6, 2007
im likin this whole not making contact twice
with a runner at third and less than 2 outs, no way we can afford to miss these opportunities without soriano in the lineupCubsBall2202 - August 6, 2007
Rodriguez the Invincible
has been in trouble every inning.We are going to HAVE to break through!
No Excuse!
TheEman - August 6, 2007
We are not putting our hits together
We need to change that. 49 pitches for Wandy thru 3 ip, we need to get to their bullpen.Me and Lou WS 07 - August 6, 2007
Soriano
has a small tear in his quad.He's out until Labor Day.
Josh Timmers - August 6, 2007
Actually, that isn't bad news
Labor Day is four weeks from today, no?Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
Going to the game on Labor day.
Hopefully we will be in first and be getting a fresh Soriano back for the stretch run.GoCubsGo! - August 6, 2007
Bad, Josh
It could be longer as well...OH WELL! Minor Leaguers will have to come through.
TheEman - August 6, 2007
Yes
it could be worse. It's a month and he'll be back for the final stretch.It's not the best-case scenario. It's also not the worst.
Josh Timmers - August 6, 2007
We Hope
The problem is that the quad is one of the major foundations of all hitting and running. Merely being back may not be enough. The question is whether he will be hampered the rest of the year.frustratedfan - August 6, 2007
How has that injury
affected Mauer and Texieria, both of whom were out about the same amount of time with it?Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
rich is throwing the ball well
lets get him some runsDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
It's a matter of time
before the Cubs get to Wandy, I thinkNot Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
Hill pitching well...
Now cubs need some hitting...although it's tough when there are 2 automatic outs at the 2nd and fifth spots in the order.Kirbyk70 - August 6, 2007
Lets get on the board
fellasAussie Cub - August 6, 2007
so maybe he is 75% by
September 20th....Gotta find ways to win without him. He wont be a 100% contributor again until '08
JB 23 - August 6, 2007
Ramirez has to be due for a HR soon
jshipp - August 6, 2007
was it just me or did it just
Look like A Ram hurt his knee again when he hit first base????JB 23 - August 6, 2007
Of all the Cubs "Stars"
Soriano is the one we'll miss least, imo - I mean in the context of you have to lose DLEE, Sori, Big Z, Lilly, or Jason Kendall (I had to add that), then Sori is the one that is the least valuable among the group.TheEman - August 6, 2007
no question
He is "replacable".. Z, Lee, Lilly, Marmol and A Ram are not at this point in the season.JB 23 - August 6, 2007
I guess I
consider DeRosa a star the way he has played this season so far. We would defintely miss him.sue369 - August 6, 2007
And more valuable to this point
than any the Cubs will run out there in his place.MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
Kendall knows a walk here isn't acceptable right?
MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
Neither is swinging at a pitch
over his head.Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
but striking out swinging at bad pitches is?
jds2 - August 6, 2007
He has a better chance of hitting a bad pitch
Than Hill does of hitting one right down the middle.As I typed this Hill K looking on 3 pitches. He put a period on my point.
MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
And what a ridiculous
point it was.Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
Flame me all you want.
I'm right. Walking in the 8 spot with any Cubs pitcher but Zambrano behind you and 2 out is not a high percentage play. In fact, the Astros probably preferred it.MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
They are starting to layoff that nasty
curve...its good, but its not landing in the zone..The hits will follow
JB 23 - August 6, 2007
Except Hill is now AB
MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
Im calling a GS by Hill
Me and Lou WS 07 - August 6, 2007
Come on Rich!!!
sue369 - August 6, 2007
poop
sue369 - August 6, 2007
wow
The bat does move Rich...Cribbs463 - August 6, 2007
Come on Rich!
Come on!phat
phatass - August 6, 2007
Hey Rich
Try taking the bat off your shoulder next, the bases were juiced!TheRamZamDLEE - August 6, 2007
Cant hit the ball with out swinging the bat
NIUcubbie - August 6, 2007
You could see that coming
a mile away.Too many guys LOB tonight so far. The next two half-innings will reveal a lot.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
You see why Kendall talking a walk wasn't good?
MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
No.
n/tNot Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
He didn't even swing.
phatphatass - August 6, 2007
Rich Hills AB
with the bases loaded rich hill couldnt even attempt to swing?? that was the worst AB i think i've ever seen. I mean, yeah hes a pitcher, but didnt he have to lear to hit in little league or high school? Oh well, almost as frustrating as ronnie c-crap-o's AB with the riot at 3rd.OCcubsnation - August 6, 2007
Trying to just look at the bright side
71 pitches thru 4 for Wandy and their bullpen sucks. We will break through, they are just making us wait.Me and Lou WS 07 - August 6, 2007
This offense.is very bleak..
After last season's debacle I did not expect to see a line up that has Murton, Cedeno, Pagan as starters. This is sadcubsnlinux - August 6, 2007
Seriously.
its like the AAA iowa all star team vs. the astros. Luckly the astros are horrible. Lets pull out D-lee and put in E-Pat.OCcubsnation - August 6, 2007
and you want to put a dent into our hopes
of scoring tonight?cubsnlinux - August 6, 2007
The hits with RISP
are now alluding us...TheEman - August 6, 2007
And eluding us
too.Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
Making us wait
kinda like that whole championship thing.Me and Lou WS 07 - August 6, 2007
Now its 1-0.
I hope Hill doesn't break apart this time.cubsnlinux - August 6, 2007
We should have signed C Lee.
TNCubsFan - August 6, 2007
poo poo
LT - August 6, 2007
It didn't even sound like he got all of that
I thought he hit it off the end of the bat.GoCubsGo! - August 6, 2007
Saddling up?
That how people talk in Texas? "I'm fixin to saddle up and mosey down to 7-11 and wrassle me a big gulp."thegangler - August 6, 2007
wow.
hill's sharp tonite. he didn't even crack after that homer. that's a huge plus.rockpantson - August 6, 2007
If they do not score
against the Invincible Rodriguez, then they deserve the L.TheEman - August 6, 2007
What is that long fly ball thing called?
When it leaves the field of play. Like Carlos Lee did. The Astros announcers called that a "home run". I don't remember those. Do we do those things too?zevkalman - August 6, 2007
this game is far from over
n/tphatass - August 6, 2007
1-0 rockies
DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
4 innings, 6 LOB already
c'mon guys.Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
Yay Riot!!!
sue369 - August 6, 2007
THIS IS A LEADOFF HITTER
LOU!!Get it?
TheEman - August 6, 2007
Why bat Cedeno 2nd and Murton 5th...
they are bound to come up with runners on base, and we have all seen the outcomes...just messed up. Oh, and Aramis is swinging at everything because he knows he won't see very many strikes with Murton behind him.Kirbyk70 - August 6, 2007
its incredible
that its Murtons fault for Aramis striking out toowow...
DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
I could have
sworn Matt had a single his last at bat.sue369 - August 6, 2007
Positive of Soriano's Injury
I hope Theriot tears up the lead-off spot and Lou decides to move Soriano to 5th when (if) he comes back.BringBackRyno - August 6, 2007
Someone call it -
double, FO, or BB?TheEman - August 6, 2007
tie game
lets go!DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
MY BAD!!
GO and RBI - COOL!TheEman - August 6, 2007
Hooof a single to our rescue..
cubsnlinux - August 6, 2007
All right
I'll 'em any way we can get 'em.TheRamZamDLEE - August 6, 2007
1-1 woohoo
sue369 - August 6, 2007
Is it asking too much to have Cedeno
move him along...PLEASE!!!!
LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
Carlos Lee
90 freakin' RBI'sSheesh!
TheEman - August 6, 2007
According to Miller of ESPN
isn't he on the Cubs now? :-)LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
I don't know about that...
but how about that huge hand for TOM GLAVINE?TheEman - August 6, 2007
4-0 ROCKIES
DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Let's just concentrate
on Cubs/'Stros...Rich Hill
TheEman - August 6, 2007
we are in a pennant race...
it is august...if we're not scoreboard watching now when are we
DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
September
MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
buehler
buehler??no one's excited about the brew crew being down 4 already???
where did everyone go
DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Go Rox !!
Lets take care of our business first and let Rox take care of those brewers, which they will.cubsnlinux - August 6, 2007
I'm excited about that.
Absolutely, now is the time to start scoreboard watching. It's the reason I've posted the Brewers Gameday links.It's nice to have meaningful games to play -- and to watch -- in August, isn't it?
Al Yellon - August 6, 2007
BTW - THANKS
for the BREW Gameday links, Al!It is great to be able to peak every now and then.
TheEman - August 6, 2007
I'm a little too tired
to get too excited about anything today.phat
phatass - August 6, 2007
This is truly small ball, but I'll take it.
LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
About as small as it gets,
huh?When was the last Cubs HR?
Anyone know what is now a trivia question?
TheEman - August 6, 2007
Nevermind -
I was at the game when DLEE hit it last week...TheEman - August 6, 2007
Rich Hill looks much better
when he is able to locate that fast ball and when attacks the hitters rather than trying to get cute and nibble the K Zone.cubsnlinux - August 6, 2007
Whats up with all those bloops from the Astros
Are they now trying to copy our small ball?cubsnlinux - August 6, 2007
Shot of Hendry on CSN...
BUT HE'S NOT ON THE PHONE!TheEman - August 6, 2007
just a thought..
i know i'm a newbie and all..and my opinion matters not...but it seems like there's a tremendous amount of negativity on this board. i understand it's frustrating to lose, to get knocked back out of first, to have shaky pitching, soriano's injury, etc....but a lot of you blast cedeno and murton every at-bat. murton's not a bad player. not at all. somebody even blasted him after he singled in his last ab. i think both of these guys have some potential. moreover, i guess i just don't like all the fighting going on here. it's fine if it's constructive arguing...i just hate to see fellow cubs fans at each others' throats.sorry to be so long-winded. that said, hill is pitching well tonite and that makes me incredibly happy.
rockpantson - August 6, 2007
Good post
and welcome aboard. Don't let the barbarians get you down. :)Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
Welcome to planet earth..my friend..
cubsnlinux - August 6, 2007
Get used to it.
All walks of life, personalities, education, etc.. post here which gives this board nice diversity. My philosophy if you don't like negative posts, don't read them or just ignore them. :)TNCubsFan - August 6, 2007
This negativity
is mild compared to earlier in the season. Some on here do hate Matt but I am not one of them. I try to not be critical of any of the players. They all have off nights.sue369 - August 6, 2007
Exactly.
To the newbie above, welcome, and indeed you should be glad you started now instead of April.It's a much nicer time to be a Cubs fan.
Al Yellon - August 6, 2007
First of all, your oprinion matters as much as
everyone else's (except Joe's!).There are people on BCB who run as hot and cold on players as the faucet in your kitchen. You'll get use to it. There is plenty of passion and love for the Cubs here.
Enjoy the ride and welcome aboard!!
LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
nice inning rich!
lets get some runs!DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Hill's fast ball looks where and how it should be
tonight..Called strike 3 to end the 5th inning.cubsnlinux - August 6, 2007
Of course
Fielder just hit a home-run.phat
phatass - August 6, 2007
Remember where they're playing.
That game could wind up 13-12.Al Yellon - August 6, 2007
Oh, I know
n/tphatass - August 6, 2007
actually
brewers 2 runs or fewer in last 4 of 5 at Colorado. I think hihg altitude+beer and cheese=troublejds2 - August 6, 2007
Yeah...
I never fly after eating cheese and drinking beer. Just a bad idea.TNCubsFan - August 6, 2007
4-1
prince goes deepjosh fogg on the mound... could be a wild one
DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Cardinals...
... scored ten runs in the fifth inning tonight and are winning 10-4. The good news is, they are beating the Padres, who the Cubs are chasing in the wild card race.Al Yellon - August 6, 2007
Wow
who'd they hit?phat
phatass - August 6, 2007
david wells
and MB wasnt even catching so he cant be blamed for this oneDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Exactly
in about 1/2 a season the barret effect is so great he doesn't even have to be in the game for the pitches to strugglejds2 - August 6, 2007
HA HA
I haven't laughed so hard in two days! LMAO...thanks!zevkalman - August 6, 2007
David Wells
I have to smile about that. Maybe no one hurt his feelings so they won't have to hit any cardinals tomorrow....LT - August 6, 2007
6-1 ROCKIES
LETS GO CUBSDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
6-1 Rocks
GoCubsGo! - August 6, 2007
6-1 Rox
CubFaninNY - August 6, 2007
6 - 1 COL
TNCubsFan - August 6, 2007
random note
ESPN makes me really appreciate Santo.He may be a Homer but he's our homer
jds2 - August 6, 2007
another smooth inning for Rich
c'mon boys lets get him some runs, been the same theme all yearDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Hill's really answered the bell tonight...
they need to get him some runs.SouthernCub - August 6, 2007
yea
he's done his jobjds2 - August 6, 2007
This just in from Iowa...
Soto currently 2 - 3 with 2 runs scored.TNCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Their must be something in the water in DSM
They have to be one of the better teams in the PCLjds2 - August 6, 2007
jds2, about your sig line...
...I believe that should be "diner" not "dinner."Otherwise, very nice.
daver - August 6, 2007
thanks for the spell check
jds2 - August 6, 2007
Or the pitching in the PCL isn't near MLB quality
MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
Whats the Colorado Score
HahahaBillHoldenFan - August 6, 2007
I love that...
"You can't quiet The Riot" Would love to see that on a t-shirt.sue369 - August 6, 2007
Will the Cubs ever score runs for Rich Hill??
please...soon.
LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
Wandy Rodriguez?
why can't we scorejds2 - August 6, 2007
His home ERA is 1.76
Maybe that's why.Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
huh?
sounds like he has a future as a brewerjds2 - August 6, 2007
Hah!
He and Cordero would make quite the starter/closer pair.Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
See home splits that I posted
earlier...TheEman - August 6, 2007
sorry
jds2 - August 6, 2007
That park announcer
is really annoying.He sounds like he's doing a monster truck ad.
phatass - August 6, 2007
it is TEXAS
they like 'em big down there.CubFaninNY - August 6, 2007
NICE WORK RICH
COME ON BOYS 2-3-4 lets go!DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Hell of an outing for Hill
Wood in the 8th, anyone?Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
I think Ron said Marmol
n/tphatass - August 6, 2007
Make sense
Wood yesturday Marmol today.We have quite the bullpen now
jds2 - August 6, 2007
With one exception
n/tphatass - August 6, 2007
cedano
seems to be pretty adequate at 2b today.jds2 - August 6, 2007
PLEASE
let's get some more runs Cubs!!sue369 - August 6, 2007
Ronny C
let's start it offjds2 - August 6, 2007
Braun HR 6-2 ROCKS
DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Anyone else
feel the breeze from that swing of Ronny's?sue369 - August 6, 2007
100 ptiches and Rich Hill is
all but done. A nice effort. Let's try to get to Wandy and the Astros bullpen now and try to get Hill a "W".LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
Ronnie Cedeno
Experiment: ConcludedResults: Negative
Recommendation: Termination
Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
Eric Patterson meet Ronny Cedano
Ronny Cedano meet the bench...what you've already meetjds2 - August 6, 2007
Ha ha
You guys are too much! Funny! :-)zevkalman - August 6, 2007
Lee hit a ball 15 feet foul
would have been a double at worstjds2 - August 6, 2007
Yikes!
Come on Cubs.sue369 - August 6, 2007
gosh
got to hand it to wandyDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Wandy = Cy Young.
TNCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Wandy is a joke
Can I say, Jamie Moyer, Bronson Arroyo, and El Duquelouslovechild - August 6, 2007
nice that wandy is going to pitch to the brewers
still can't beleive only 1 run vs a guy named wandyjds2 - August 6, 2007
Should have been 3
Runners at 1 and 3 in the first. Ramirez K's. Runner on 3rd 1 out in the 2nd, Ronny K's. We had lots of opportunities.louslovechild - August 6, 2007
Well, two, at least
n/tNot Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
They beat up on Rodriguez at home
and haven't touched him on the road.Fits right into his history.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
Good grief!?!
sue369 - August 6, 2007
Way to waste a great start by Hill!
No one can hit a curveball I guess, except Theriot. C'mon you jugheads!Itchy - August 6, 2007
Great game, though
A real pitchers' duel.Would be a nice one to win, particularly with the Crew down early.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
Houston Announcer Said It
Would have served Pinella Nice to put a lefty in there to mix it up. How about Fontenot Batting Second instead of the worst 2 hitter west of the Pacoslouslovechild - August 6, 2007
This team
Cannot hit left handed pitching to save their souls.cubfred - August 6, 2007
Reminds me of Little League
nobody could hit left handers then either. At least we were only 12....LT - August 6, 2007
not my little league
approximately 5 walks per inningjds2 - August 6, 2007
Observation
of the Houston TV announcers: that Sweet Lou might have made Wandy's job easier by not sticking a left-hand bat in the lineup. They argue that it may have allowed Wandy to get "on track" since he only had to face right-handers. Not entirely plausible, but interesting.zevkalman - August 6, 2007
sorry, I didn't see your post.
LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
How is it not plausible?
There are pitches that Lefties won't throw to Lefties.MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
Even the Astros announcers thought
"Wandy" got very comfortable facing eight straight RH batters. I hope Lou is done with this experiment. It sure seems like a bust. We seem to hit better against LH pitchers when there is a mix of RH and LH hitters in there.Let's just find a way to get this "W"...
LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
Palmero
swung at that pitch big time. Where the hell was he goin?TheRamZamDLEE - August 6, 2007
Scrap Iron is emptying his bench.
MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
we all know it
Marmol is awesome.vegascubsfan - August 6, 2007
marmol in 9th?
if we don't scorejds2 - August 6, 2007
Seriously
we need some runs here guys. Just do it!!!sue369 - August 6, 2007
15 pitches for Marmol
back in the 9th?Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
I vote yes
n/tJB 23 - August 6, 2007
Time to get the bullpen.
Hopefully they bring in a righty. I gurantee runs if they bring in a north paw.Aram mvp - August 6, 2007
I like the northpaw thing...
but that guarantee is looking pretty rough right now.SouthernCub - August 6, 2007
no confidence in murton at all
n/tDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
5 K's Back to Back
louslovechild - August 6, 2007
put the ball in play
jds2 - August 6, 2007
to Back to Back to Back
louslovechild - August 6, 2007
sheesh
sue369 - August 6, 2007
Wow, I didnt realize Qualls had that good of stuff
Nasty slider. yuck.Aram mvp - August 6, 2007
Qualls stuff is nasty tonight
I know, I am captain obvious...JB 23 - August 6, 2007
yikes....
n/tDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
A Joke
6 K's in a row.louslovechild - August 6, 2007
dang.
qualls just made fools of us.rockpantson - August 6, 2007
That was
not pleasant.sue369 - August 6, 2007
Not much
you can do about that.Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
It aint gonna get any easier either.
Lidge if we see the 10thlouslovechild - August 6, 2007
Lidge is hittable
I'll take my chances.Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
Wandy = Qualls = Cy Young.
Contact? Anyone?TNCubsFan - August 6, 2007
jesus
that made me vomit.blueapple - August 6, 2007
Of course, we'll never give
another pitcher any credit, right?Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
well
I will... but I don't know that they are any good, or we just are horrible hitters.But it did look nasty.
blueapple - August 6, 2007
is EPatt at the game?
maybe he could try to bunt for a single...more productive than the last 6 K'sjds2 - August 6, 2007
He's in.
sue369 - August 6, 2007
check
jds2 - August 6, 2007
Playing LF?
I'm not the biggest Murton fan but that was bad baseball by Lou. He wasted Fontenot.MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
umm....
i hate all those movesDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Tip your cap
but do the Houston announcers get to be that cocky when their team is 15 games under 500louslovechild - August 6, 2007
I rush home to see THIS??
Man...walk in, turn on the game, and we have yet ANOTHER pitchers dual?I mean....really....(sigh)
Bluelou - August 6, 2007
yep...sorry
sue369 - August 6, 2007
Well...did ya POOP 'em yet tonight Sue?
:-)Bluelou - August 6, 2007
A couple
of times. Didn't help tho.sue369 - August 6, 2007
Sue's POOP
has lost its odor.Ineffective anymore, imo.
TheEman - August 6, 2007
Maybe she needs to get
more fiber in her diet?LT - August 6, 2007
Why Fontenot there?
I'm not sure I see the logic. We have 3 LH batters on the bench who are capable of playing LF. Instead, Lou chooses a 2B, meaning he has to use 2 guys for one batter. Strange move.SouthernCub - August 6, 2007
Not Bruce - you feelin' better tonight, bud? :-)
Bluelou - August 6, 2007
Been a whale of a game so far
Nice, tight, tense pitchers' duel. Be nice to win it. We'll see.Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
Been a whale of a game so far
Sheeeyte!My fingernails are already down to stubs...
Bluelou - August 6, 2007
OMG
That's Corey Patterson!CubFaninNY - August 6, 2007
these next 2 outs
ARE TERRIFYINGDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Im sure this has been mentioned
i just got back and saw soriano was out till labor day at the earliest, here's to hoping he comes back ready to play and to the speediest recovery possibleINWes44 - August 6, 2007
NICE BOB
one more buddy!DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
nike K bobby
jds2 - August 6, 2007
Howry should
Walk Lee.blueapple - August 6, 2007
Fer sure.
Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
Nope....FO..
Bluelou - August 6, 2007
don't mind him pitching carefully to lee here
jds2 - August 6, 2007
PHEW
lets get some runs!DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Heart attack.
Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
thank you Carlos!
JB 23 - August 6, 2007
Whew!
Now let's do something.sue369 - August 6, 2007
thank you Carlos!
JB 23 - August 6, 2007
Sucker!
MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
Patterson up
Let's see how this experiment goes...blueapple - August 6, 2007
this will be epatt's first mlb at-bat, no?
good luck, kid.rockpantson - August 6, 2007
I trhink so
sue369 - August 6, 2007
Lets hope it goes
better than Corey's first game...0 for 3, 2K
blueapple - August 6, 2007
Lets
try and put the ball in play this inning, whose with me?CubsFan1987 - August 6, 2007
Hey....it's kinda nice in here tonight...
got a nice, friendly vibe....waddup wit dat??:-)
Bluelou - August 6, 2007
You're wrong.
MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
Brewers losing cubs are not
jds2 - August 6, 2007
It is
nice in here tonight.sue369 - August 6, 2007
did not think lee would getting out on a 3-0 count
jds2 - August 6, 2007
The guys on baseball tonight just discussed what
we already know: Carlos Marmol is the balls.MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
Time to Take First Place back
as a nice team get well quick gift to The Fonz!hellfreezesoverwaittillnextyear - August 6, 2007
WTG JK....keep it up...
Bluelou - August 6, 2007
nice start JASON
i still want geovanny....but i'm rooting for ya to prove me wrong!
DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Lou has 3 more rookies on this team
than he probably wants already.MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
i know
people get upset though when i talk about his similarities to dustyDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Kendall: tomorrow's #2 hitter
LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
gets my vote.
Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
Nice
Jasonblueapple - August 6, 2007
E patt is tiny!
JB 23 - August 6, 2007
Eric's a tall feller.
Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
compared to his brother, maybe? :)
Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
Who wouldve thought...
Kendall could actually hit still. COME ON EP!!!Aram mvp - August 6, 2007
Here we go
Let's go E Pat... clap,clap,clap,clap,clapTheRamZamDLEE - August 6, 2007
He looks like the guy from the Mod Squad
n/tlouslovechild - August 6, 2007
You really dont see young guys
with chew anymore.blueapple - August 6, 2007
3-1
swing away or bunt?i say swing
jds2 - August 6, 2007
way to get the job done EPAT!
n/tDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Eric did his job
coral - August 6, 2007
productive out
well done EPattjds2 - August 6, 2007
Thank goodness for the bobble....nice bunt..
Bluelou - August 6, 2007
There's something he doesn't have in common with
his brother.MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
Well thats more bunting then corey ever did :)
..Aram mvp - August 6, 2007
THE RIOTTTTTTTTTT
lets do this.blueapple - August 6, 2007
EPatt
still no official MLB AB...that was a Sac right?jds2 - August 6, 2007
Time to star a "RIOT"...yes?
Bluelou - August 6, 2007
Kendall acts as though
his knees are killing himcoral - August 6, 2007
c'mon clifford
one time...DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
i think thats about as far as you can hit a ball
and get outjds2 - August 6, 2007
juuuust a .....basehitbasehitbasehitbasehitbsaehit
Bluelou - August 6, 2007
wow.
saw that one coming.rockpantson - August 6, 2007
Come on Cliff.
Bring The Riot home.sue369 - August 6, 2007
You mean Kendall...
the Riot is sitting on the bench.SouthernCub - August 6, 2007
Yep
that's what I meant.sue369 - August 6, 2007
oh my god
that wasnt even closeDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
really bad swing....jonesesque...
JB 23 - August 6, 2007
He missed that by a good foot
Sitting dead redlouslovechild - August 6, 2007
Cliffy wasn't even CLOSE on that swing...
Bluelou - August 6, 2007
what is he swinging at ?
coral - August 6, 2007
He has looked bad for a while now
louslovechild - August 6, 2007
quite awhile.....
and now with Sori out, there is no more hiding...JB 23 - August 6, 2007
come on floyd
I think tacking a loss on lidge might weaken his psyche for the rest of the seriesjds2 - August 6, 2007
Well there ya go.....just a base hit....
would have been nice....(argh)Bluelou - August 6, 2007
Why swing at that?
Yikes.Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
Well Cliff swung at the same 3 pitches...
Rogue 52 - August 6, 2007
2 golf swings and a tennis forehand
coral - August 6, 2007
wow, that was truly horrible.
pwnd.Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
crap.
this is getting bad.rockpantson - August 6, 2007
How did he not see that pitch coming
Its unhittable and Floyd kept going after itlouslovechild - August 6, 2007
embarassing
cliff should be ashamed for that at-bat, wasn't even close at any of those pitches, none of which looked liked they would be called strikesCubsFan1987 - August 6, 2007
ugh....
with all these moves we've managed to hurt our defense late in the game as wellfloyd into right, epat in LF, DeRosa back to 2B
DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
if that was a beachball
Cliff would have missed it with those swings. Ouch.Let's try to get to the 11th.
LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
Nomination for worst at bat of the night...
And run away winner.Aram mvp - August 6, 2007
Um, Hill not moving the bat on three pitches?
MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
But
Pitcher vs a hired bat left feilderjds2 - August 6, 2007
Still to K on three pitches and not swing at one?
Nevermind that gameday showed them as right down the middle.MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
truly dreadful
It's been a long time since Lidge has made anyone look that bad.DaveinHouston - August 7, 2007
Howry in the 9th
would be nice to get 2 innings out of a releiver in a potential extra innings gamejds2 - August 6, 2007
I wish
we could trade Jones, Floyd, Pagan, Murton for two good outfielders... or like compress them and maybe add their stats together to get the best mediocore player the game has ever seen.blueapple - August 6, 2007
What's happening with D. Ward ?
anyone knowcoral - August 6, 2007
Boy is Floyd horrible or what
cubsnlinux - August 6, 2007
He's not horrible
but he certainly looked horrible in that at-bat.Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
mmm, yeah
pretty muchsue369 - August 6, 2007
Aren't you an angry little woman.
MarlaSinger - August 7, 2007
Deflated yes,
angry naw. Just expected more from Cliff than what we have been getting.sue369 - August 7, 2007
Wow
I think I could have gotten closer to one of those pitches than Cliff did. That last pitch was one of those where everyone in the park knew a slider was coming, and he still missed it by a foot.Aaron @ Bleed Cubbie Blue - August 6, 2007
Hey look ! Another slider at the shoetops !
And another Cub flailing away at it like he's swatting flies !And now we get Wuertz. Great.
scotteboy - August 6, 2007
OK WHY
bring in a new pitcher and not double switch to have jones play RF????DartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
So Howry's arm
doesn't fall off before Soriano returns.Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
i dont mind the pitching change
but why not use it double switch, pitchers spot is due up 3rd next inning and if we get there he's going to use jones to PH anyways AND jones is a better defender than floyd by a mileDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
At least "Gas Can" Ohman isn't in.
yet.Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
0-2 count ---> leadoff walk
way to nibblejds2 - August 6, 2007
ballgame
JB 23 - August 6, 2007
OK, then, shut off the TV
n/tNot Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
OMG
from 0-2 to a walk, i have never understood what goes through a pitcher's head when this crap happensCubsFan1987 - August 6, 2007
Wuertz
Are you kidding. Lead off walk. He is going to kill this.louslovechild - August 6, 2007
Leadoff walks in extra innings have a tendancy...
to score.Rogue 52 - August 6, 2007
I've got a bad feeling about this...
IllinoisCubs - August 6, 2007
Sheesh
n/tphatass - August 6, 2007
it's like deja vu all over again
jds2 - August 6, 2007
K + W =
Kerry Wood finishes with a strikeout for a Win!Hope the Fonzieless Cubbies can get there tonight!
hellfreezesoverwaittillnextyear - August 6, 2007
Lead off walk after being ahead of the hitter
0-2 in the count.cubsnlinux - August 6, 2007
kendall
arm looks shakyDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
The April Cubs return...
TheEman - August 6, 2007
Time for a DP
coral - August 6, 2007
the 'stros bench is pretty thin, huh?
i believe they carry three catchers.rockpantson - August 6, 2007
nice play EPatt
jds2 - August 6, 2007
kendall
i'm sorry but i still dont see how he's a great defensive catcher..... i really dont see how he's any better than barrett.... i'm sorryDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
You're not sorry.
I'm sorry that you are offering slams couched as apologies.MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
that should have been blocked by Kendall
cubsnlinux - August 6, 2007
This is a game
when the "leaders" have to take over.A-Ram, DLEE, DeRosa...
A Big Freakin' ZERO!!!
TheEman - August 6, 2007
There you go
louslovechild - August 6, 2007
righty
Damn it. Throw him crap, and face the righty!californiachicagoan - August 6, 2007
Oh, well
Offense needed to do a better job.Hopefully Rockies hold on and Cubs lose no ground.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
I hope too
but feels sick we have to depend on the Rox beating the brewers when we cannot beat the Astros. Loosing 2 in a row is now getting common.cubsnlinux - August 6, 2007
Deplorable
two days in a row they let the Brewers off the hook...All you guys who start drooling when they see THE BREWERS ARE LOSING - please. Can you just wait until the Cubs take care of business?
TheEman - August 6, 2007
damn.
that's a huge letdown. we'll git 'em tomorrow.rockpantson - August 6, 2007
POOP
Poop...poop...poop!!!!ronsanto10 - August 6, 2007
fucking
and the implode happensblueapple - August 6, 2007
It's time to shake up the %$(#ing lineup.
Jesus Christ. How in the hell do you score 1 freaking run.TNCubsFan - August 6, 2007
Shake up with what?
As much as people like to hate Soriano around here, the Cubs lost a lot of offensive potential for a month. Maybe he was hitting in the "wrong" spot in the order but you only lead off once per game. The combination of Murton/Floyd/Jones/Pagan is weak in just about every way imaginable.MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
man...
we let an opportunity get away tonightDartmouthCubsFan - August 6, 2007
we let an opportunity get away tonight
Naw, dude....THEY let one get away....WE just watched helplessly. :-)
Bluelou - August 6, 2007
Nice effort
another game that the offense didn't show up. Let the excuse makers begin.....Itchy - August 6, 2007
No excuses
Offense needed to do a better job.If you want to jump off the ledge, feel free.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
Well there is always next year..isn't that right
pal? This offense sucks and it feels stupid when these bozos call out the fans for booing. 1 run against the astros?cubsnlinux - August 6, 2007
You must have been complaining
when they scored six the other day, too.Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
I love it when people tell me how I am
or am not supposed to root for a team.MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
What we needed was
for hitters like Floyd not to try and hit a HR on every pitch! Good teams win games like this.August = April? Let's hope not!
Itchy - August 6, 2007
How do the Cubs lose to the Astros?
n/tphatass - August 6, 2007
that idiotic lead off walk spelt doom
but I would put this loss on the offense..cubsnlinux - August 6, 2007
jb called it but everyone else thought it
you cant let up a lead-off walk no matter the inning and not expect a run scored, even more so with an 0-2 count no business walking a batter thereINWes44 - August 6, 2007
RIch Hill
At least Hill did well.ronsanto10 - August 6, 2007
You have to tip your hat to Wandy.
No, wait. You don't. He sucks. You have to hit the GD ball, Lee and A-Ram.ClosingTime - August 6, 2007
Wandy has a 1.76 ERA at home
What the Cubs needed was a sac fly in the first or the third.Well, they've won their share like that recently. Now, they lose one.
Like I said, Rockies win tonight and it'll be a lot more palatable.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
It won't be palatable
The fact that our offense is real bad still remains. Right now I can't be happy to see the brewers loose. I want to see the cubs win and want to see us win emphatically. This monkey business is horrible.cubsnlinux - August 6, 2007
BFD
The team lost 4 of 7 against the best in the NL, then proceed to lose against the Astros with 5 hits and 1 run - and you want to just tell us about the Brewers maybe losing.Always nice to WIN to capture sole possesion of 1st...
TheEman - August 6, 2007
Well, tough
You can't, and won't win them all. And you'll have your fair share of games you should have won but didn't and games you shouldn't have won but did.If the Cubs are going through a bit of a rough patch right now, that's understandable. Considering they've made up 7.5 games in the standings in the last month, that's to be expected.
Patience, grasshopper.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
and then depression set in..
Great pitched game by both teams. Not sure what happened to the Astros pitching staff that gave up 54 runs last week, but that just seems to happen to the Cubs.JB 23 - August 6, 2007
Cubs lose 7 of last 12 games
n/tblueapple - August 6, 2007
n/t isn't needed.
MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
and
four of their last five. One run off a guy with an era of 4.71. Wasted a really nice effort by Hill tonight. We are going to start falling like a rock in the standings if they don't start to score some runs.qccub - August 6, 2007
One Run
One run. The stros have given up the third most HR's in the league.FSArkCubsFan - August 6, 2007
If the Cubs
score virtually nothing the next two days, you might have a point.Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
We haven't scored jack for runs
over the last week, save for a couple little outbursts. No power whatsoever. What can Lou do?Itchy - August 6, 2007
How long have you watched baseball?
One week without scoring much. Baseball season is 26 weeks long.That's the breaks.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
Cedeno played and Wuertz pitched the 10th
Cedeno cannot play at all. Wuertz in a tie ball game is useless. Plus, with the pitcher spot up next, why not walk him. Make Garner take out the pitcher, and face the pinch hitter. Gets Garner to use his last hitter and gets rid of Lidge.Bad call on Lous part, but we should have had at least 4 runs.
Wasted outing by Hill.
louslovechild - August 6, 2007
total agreeance.
Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
it wasn't the pitcher spot up next.
there was a double switch. even if munson hadn't singled in the run, mike lamb would've batted next. just sayin.rockpantson - August 7, 2007
wow, we got completely shut down tonight.
i wasn't really expecting that. the astros staff just looked nasty. did we have any walks?i've got a sickening feeling that we're going to get swept. woody williams throws tomorrow, and though he's a bum, he's also a competitive junkballer. then oswalt.
buckmulligan - August 6, 2007
Shit like tonight infuriates me
For the first time in several starts Rich Hill gives you 7 solid innings.What was the approach at the plate tonight ? Swing hard in case you happen to put the bat on the ball ?
Slider at the shoetops, slider at the shoetops, slider at the shoetops, slider at the shoetops. Notice a pattern yet ? Apparently neither the Cubs nor Gerald Perry did.
Leadoff walk. Sac to 2nd. WP to 3rd. Single on ANOTHER hanging slider. Ballgame.
I hate stupid baseball. Was tonight some kind of previously scheduled retrospective on the 2004-2006 Chicago Cubs ?
scotteboy - August 6, 2007
posts like this really piss me off.
"Notice a pattern yet ? Apparently neither the Cubs nor Gerald Perry did."ah, but you did, buddy. should've had you in there. coulda slapped those sliders out of the juicebox.
rockpantson - August 7, 2007
I didn't see the game until the last inning
but Wandy must have gone nuts. Rich Hill looks like he had a nice game and got no run support from it. That sure is disappoining, and yes the Brew Crew looks like they will lose, but we aren't gaining any ground. They have been a great team and we need to capitalize when they lose. So far this is two games in a row we could have done so. We could be 2 games up in the division instead of still 1 back. That's a shame, especially when it's the damn Astros. Damn.bloomerang - August 6, 2007
4th series in a row losing the first game...
During our July run we were consistently winning the first game every series. Now, we are losing the first games of series and we are not playing as well.Rogue 52 - August 6, 2007
Leftys kill us
at least we won't see that lineup again for a while. And Josh Fogg has pitched great through 7 against the Brews.Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
I've had it
The negativity and abject lack of realistic behavior around here is too much to take.I'll be lurking, perhaps, but not posting much anymore.
I certainly hope some of you aren't like this in your regular lives, because if you are, you must be an absolute "joy" to be around.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
And there it is
The perspective post.MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
Considering it appears you have none
I guess it was necessary.Tough game to lose, but I'm not going to slit my wrists over it. There's another game tomorrow, you know.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
You know nothing of me nor how I am feeling.
I just love that you are preaching so much. Send me an address so I can build a pulpit and UPS it to you.I agree that people freak out too much over one loss. But the people who try to give them "perspective" or tell them how they are supposed to react or support the team are nearly as bad.
MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
Well, when that's basically all you see
in the majority of posts, what does that tell you?Nobody's trying to "tell" anybody how to behave. But it's ridiculous to get this angst-ridden about a team that's only one game out of first place in its division, with 50-something games left to be played.
Can't we just enjoy the season? Instead of making things more fun, this constant negativity just makes it a drag.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
i thought you were taking a break from posting.
buckmulligan - August 6, 2007
But you are just attracting attention to it.
Let'em vent. Though I wouldn't mind an "Ignore Poster" feature.MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
agreed.
buckmulligan - August 6, 2007
"Can't you just enjoy the season"
In all fairness some people including myself cannot "enjoy" after a humiliating loss like tonight's. Let me tell you something, more than the loss we are angry at the way we lost. The way Floyd was flailing at those sliders, the way we wasted tons of opportunities again to score some runs etc etc. Now we are not the Pirates or the Nationals, for heavens sake we are the Chicago Cubs, a big market ball club. We haven't won a World Series in 100 years and the fans are hungry and when you are hungry and deprived its hard to see dumb mistakes and "enjoy". When you are in a crappy division like the NL Central its pathetic that you have to depend on some other team's losses to avoid loosing any ground. Us angry people are as happy if not more than anyone when we win because some people post over here as if we are always unhappy. We are also happy when we loose a hard fought match. But tonight it was yet another night when you could throw underhand and our offense would hit into double plays.cubsnlinux - August 6, 2007
don't agree
"The negativity and abject lack of realistic behavior around here is too much to take."Everyone has their own sense of realism.
There is plenty of baseball yet top be played, but when the Division leader keeps giving you a freebie, and the team blows it, it is not fantasy to believe that the team is not doing the job now - particularly on a night a struggling pitcher pitches again.
I know - "It happens".
Happens too much to the Cubs, imo.
TheEman - August 6, 2007
" a struggling pitcher pitches a GEM."
TheEman - August 6, 2007
A struggling pitcher
Who has been lights out at home all season. And whom the Cubs pummeled a few weeks ago in Chicago.Just once, I'd like someone to admit that, maybe, another team is pretty good.
Tonight, it was a combination of excellent pitching by the Astros and a lack of situational hitting by the Cubs.
There's anothe game tomorrow. Promise not to slit your throats before then, OK?
Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
why the attitude?
let them alone.buckmulligan - August 6, 2007
It's just aggravating
and it just makes a downer of a night that much worse unnecessarily. Because all things considered, I still think the Cubs are in good shape.Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
don't you see that your posts
are more of a "downer"? so, what's the point. don't come here after a loss. of course, this place will be down. at least come with a joke.buckmulligan - August 6, 2007
I've got a joke
Ronny Cedeno is a major league shortstop.qccub - August 6, 2007
and second baseman.
buckmulligan - August 6, 2007
Not really
And if I did tell a joke, I'd be slammed for that, too. "How can you joke at a time like this?"Anyway, enough. Tomorrow is another day.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
The Astros
are not pretty good. Is it a crime to be pissed off about a loss? How about four losses in the last five games? I haven't given up on the team, they are still right in it and in good position with two months to go. But they have not played well lately and aren't showing much life at the plate. I'm certainly not going to apologize for being unhappy about that. Yes, some folks think the sky is falling after every loss but so what? Those folks are not any more annoying than the ones who constantly chastise people for being "too negative." Everyone deals with things differently.qccub - August 6, 2007
Yes, but the negativity
starts right away here -- if they don't put up a five spot in the first inning, we get the same old same old.Look, losing stinks. But it happens. After the run the Cubs have been on recently, it goes to figure they probably are overdue for a rough patch.
Some people, however, react to this as if a meteor just hit their house. Bi-polar Bettys, the lot of 'em.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
why do you care? i don't get it.
buckmulligan - August 6, 2007
Wrong Bruce...
Hill's era is 3.88 @ home to 3.49 on the road.He is 3-2 at home - BAA? .243 Home, .202 Road
OBP is also higher at home with a .331 compared to .287
In fact in every catagory except wins (although tonight he should have had one) he is quite a bit higher at home.
He has been shaky recently at home for the most part, Bruce, not "lights out".
He WAS lights out in April.
TheEman - August 6, 2007
No, Rodriguez
is lights out at home.Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
Ohhhh...
Yes. Indeed he is amazingly another pitcher.Dan Pleisac stated it was the best he has ever seen the pitcher throw a curve.
A "career day".
TheEman - August 6, 2007
thank you.
buckmulligan - August 6, 2007
Where are
those who said to stay still @ the trade deadline? IDC what the price was. You're trying to win now and deep inside, we all doubt Z will be back.cubbyblue137 - August 6, 2007
i think z will be back.
if he doesn't re-sign, then all the money the club has spent this year was a waste, and the cubs are screwed for years. they don't have any choice but to sign him.buckmulligan - August 6, 2007
Winning
I always scoreboard watch, even in April, but a few weeks ago I really had myself under control, thinking that winning was the only thing that mattered, nevermind what the Brewers were doing. Well, that's still true. At this rate, we'll stay one game behind the Brewers until the end and be 5 games under 500 with no wild card in the picture. need to find some offense right away, and give Marmol some more work.park - August 6, 2007
Cubs need some professional hitters...
The AAA prospects are nice, but very few of them actually pan out, or teams would constantly be calling up guys from AAA. The % of AAA players who make it in the bigs has to be low. I think the Cubs need to make a trade while they still have value...Fontenot and Theriot appear to actually make contact more times than not, Pie is young and has the most "tools" to work with...Murton and Patterson should be moved, while they have some value. The Cubs just cannot count on solid contributions from this many AAA position players.Kirbyk70 - August 6, 2007
murton should have been moved long ago.
i just don't think he can get you much.buckmulligan - August 6, 2007
its a tough one
becasue Hill pitched really well and the Astros are a really poor team.Lee and A Ram are going to have to turn up the slugging. Lee hasnt been hitting in situations that matter (RISP) and A Ram is quietly in a mini-slump. There isnt room to hide, everyone is going to have to step up.
JB 23 - August 6, 2007
You can't say you didn't see this coming.
Every team goes through a rough patch in the season. Even Detroit had lost 5 straight before tonight. It just seems worse since we're not that far above .500, and we just got done playing Philadelphia and New York. At least we had a lead-off hitter with a couple of hits tonight.WartburgCub - August 6, 2007
Step Up
Someone is going to have to step up put this team on their shoulders. A team built with power in mind can't hit the long ball, even at juice park.FSArkCubsFan - August 6, 2007
hmmmm
Cubs avg: .269Cubs Avg RISP w/2 outs: .261
blueapple - August 6, 2007
The sooner Lou sends Cedeno back to
AAA and bring Pie back, I will feel better. Let EPatt be a back up in LF or 2B and Pie be the back up in CF. Pie brings energy to this team and it looks like it needs more energy right now.If we can't hit a long ball, let's have out best defense and speed here. Cedeno did nothing to move batters along early in the game when it mattered. He got lucky with that near whiff grounder late in the game. Cedeno looks hopeless at the plate.
LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
Every Cedeno AB leads me to one of two conclusions
Either he is pressing way too much. Or the pitching in the PCL stinks.MiniAndretti - August 6, 2007
And BTW,, EPatt
showed a nice eye at the plate against Lidge. Clearly he did not get all his skills from his brother. That alone makes me feel better about him (EPatt) than Cedeno.LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
careful what you wish for
We all want the Rox to sweep the Brewers, but remember this: They're a good team playig well now, who the Cubs will play for four on the road. That's why the Astros series is so important. You can't expect to do better than split in the next one. The Cubs need to start hitting again, especially Aramis with that stupid uppercut swing.CubFaninNY - August 6, 2007
GAH!
Latroy Hawkins in for the Rockies! Take cover quick!Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
LaTroy
is on the bump. Let's all root for good old LaTroy!park - August 6, 2007
Perspective
hopefully Colorado can hold on and win, leaving us still only 1GBI think this loss seems worse in the wake of losing Soriano and the worry it place about the offense, but I don't know if Soriano would have been alot of help the way Wandy was working that curve, he got Lee and Ramirez swinging, and I would consider Soriano much more of a free swinger
CubsFan1987 - August 6, 2007
Thank you
n/tNot Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
Soto
a trade for PiazzaEven if those guys did not play a game at catcher, they are better hitting options than Cedeno.
IllinoisCubs - August 6, 2007
The SS on Rockies just did his Cedeno
imitation. E-6...two plays in a row.
LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
they were two weak grounders
that game should be over.LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
Back from the Game
That ending blew. More to come in a diary with pictures.sanantonecub - August 6, 2007
Al, I need to vent some frustration...
I promise to not swear.Gosh darn it, son of a gun. How do you get one darn run off of this stinken pitching staff? It gets old watching opportunities slip away like this game did.
I know some people will say: Well this was a game the Cubs should not have won. Well, my take on that is in the beginning of the year the Cubs lost a bunch of games that they should have won, I want to see the Cubs win some games that they should have lost.
Another thing, I want to root for Ronny Cedeno, I really do. But when he comes up in a key situation, I just feel that he will not come through. I would rather see Mike Fontenot, even though it was against a lefty.
There, now I feel a little better.
cubfanwill - August 6, 2007
For one day...even tommorrow
It would be ok to Lou to Just say, "Screw it." Let the lion's share of the players have a day off and go with the kids and one or two "essential" players.They could not have done much worse on the "O" side.
TheEman - August 6, 2007
not tomorrow, got to face oswalt on weds.
need to win tomorrow; otherwise, the sweep becomes a real possibility.buckmulligan - August 6, 2007
He did that last Thursday basically
Fontenot, Murton, and Cedeno all started.I guess what you might want to see though is
3B Theriot
RF Patterson
CF Pagan
1B Lee
LF Murton
2B Fontenot
SS Cedeno
C Hill
SP Marshall
That would say screw it.
IllinoisCubs - August 6, 2007
Double play. We are still only a game back.
LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
Many of us are dejected...
Well - I am.However, if this team is going to make it to the playoffs this year - they are going to HAVE to take care of business against the little sisters of the poor.
They did NOT pass the litmus test this past weekend, and somehow they are gonna have to pull themselves out of this and get back in the W column with frequency, NOW.
TheEman - August 6, 2007
Not me.
The Cubs haven't been hot for a while; they've been a .500 team for going on 3 weeks. They've been in their slump, yet are still only a game back.To me, it's a real pennant race and very exciting.
Matt Allison - August 6, 2007
Hit and Hit.
Please Lou no more of Cedeno. Enough, hitting him in the two hole, when I saw that at 8:00pm eastern, I almost cried.No more Ronny and no more Pagan please.
And can someone hit a homerun this month?
Johnny Callison was a Cub - August 6, 2007
Yes the Cubs have lost 4 of 5.
We could not have expected the Cubs to get through the rest of the year without a bout like this. The question will be how does the team come out of this funk and how quickly will they do it?As we have seen with Lou, he is not the toothpick sucking Dusty. We will see another new lineup tomorrow and he will tinker and change things and push buttons. He will move bodies up and down from AAA (and AA if necessary) until he has the right combo of people here to be winning again.
I am convinced that Lou will get us out of this funk as quickly as humanly possible. Lou is not sitting in his hotel room watching porn right now...well maybe he is. But once he is done with the porn, he will be on to figuring out what to do with the line up to get more runs across the plate tomorrow.
LAcarl519 - August 6, 2007
LOL! Agreed...
Even with the porn, Lou will certainly make some moves to do whatever he can to jumpstart the tired engine.You are so right. This was one reason why I was convinced that Pie would get called up b/c although he is MLB hitting challenged - he brings incredible energy.
Apparently, we'll have to wait until 9/1 to see him up here...
And how much more Cedeno do we have to watch??
TheEman - August 6, 2007
Agreed with all of this
I apologize for getting a bit testy tonight. Even though I try to maintain perspective, I do take these games seriously. When everybody starts piling on and gnashing teeth, it just gets to be a little too much.I think we all want the same thing -- the Cubs to play to their potential and, with hope and luck, win a World Series.
One game out. Not bad, even though the team isn't playing all that well right now.
Should be a good couple of months, Soriano or not.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
Please don't
stop posting like you posted above. There are far too few of us who don't think it's the end of the world if this team loses. This is just a minor slump and they will turn it around shortly.sue369 - August 7, 2007
I am not giving up on this team but,
I am calling out one player. Derek Lee. I know he has been a rock this year, but we were all willing to overlook his lack in power and lack of clutch hits, as of late, but now he has to find another gear.We are not going out and getting anyone. We cannot. We have no money. I want a pizza right now, and I dont get paid until tomorrow. I dont get my pizza and the Cubs get zero help for the same reason. WE HAVE NO MONEY. So stop looking outside for help, what we have is what we get.
Positives tonight are plentiful.
Hill pitched a superb game. He was electric with the curve ball and the fastball in on all those righties. He gave one mistake to a guy you cant make mistakes against. He can get in a long line of others who have done the samee.
Theriot is a legit leadoff hitter who hit to all fields, stole third base, and played agressive tonight.
Eric Patterson can bunt. It must skip brothers genetically speaking.
Kendall keeps hitting. He came up with a clutch single against Lidge and should have been driven in, like many others this evening.
This was the worst game possible for the Cubs, coming off that tough Mets series and the injury. Wandy is a tough lefty at home, and crap, with this team, any lefty is rough. We played like we did the first half, and I am positive that Lou will not let this team crumble.
Woody Williams tomorrow night. Old, bad and a righty. I not only expect a win tomorrow, I demand it. It is just a damn shame that they faced Sean Marshall once already. Tonight.
This team will not crumble people. The teams hope of a postseason is still alive and kicking.
louslovechild - August 6, 2007
Now that's what I'm talking about
Good post, LLC.Not Bruce Froemming - August 6, 2007
I agree.
Its tough to pick on a guy like Lee but you're right; he needs to turn it on, now. Your three batter can't have some of the production numbers he has. I know its tough to just flip a switch and hit the ball out of the yard but singles and doubles (to an extent) are for guys in the five spot. This teams needs to start hitting the ball out of the park. I've been adamant over time that power isn't something you need an abundance of but seriously, they make Wrigley look like a tomb.TCobb1911 - August 6, 2007
Very well said
I guees we could use that term that everyone seems to be using in sports now a days"circle the wagons"
and go after it
miamicanes - August 6, 2007
"The teams hope of a
postseason is still alive and kicking."Yeah, no kidding. they're a game out and the team that's ahead of them hasn't played .500 ball since two weeks before Memorial Day.
TR - August 6, 2007
how the hell are we gonna score runs
without soriano, this game was sickening and i dont see it getting any better with some of these shit prospects were using (murton, cedeno, pagan)CubsBall2202 - August 7, 2007
I'll say it again
If this team goes into the tank without Soriano, it wasn't that good in the first place.I don't think they'll tank.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 7, 2007
and why exactly would that be
witnessing tonights pathetic offensive effort, whats on this team that will make it better?CubsBall2202 - August 7, 2007
I shouldn't feed the troll, but ...
This team has had more good offensive nights than bad ones.If nobody had seen the Cubs play before tonight and had only seen this game, they might not have been impressed. Fortunately, there are 162 games in a season, not one.
You do know they play 162 games in a season, right?
Not Bruce Froemming - August 7, 2007
I have seriously thought about this
and I have come to the conclusion that Theriot's ability to get on base will become as useful as 18 solo home runs. How many times we had no one on base for a Lee double or Ramirez double. Soriano will be missed, and so will his days as a lead off hitter. Theriot and Fontenot will prove to be just as valuable a commodity as a leadoff hitter with an on base percentage of .270 since the all star break, and has a walk to strike out ratio 3 to 28 this last month.If all D Lee can do is hit doubles, than at least now there will be someone on base for him to drive in.
And so that it doesnt seem like I am calling out only D Lee for his lack of power, Ramirez was the Pepsi Clutch Player of July. WITH 1HR and 22RBI's. 1 God Damn Home Run. Al says we cant say God Damn in this room. Doesnt matter, nobody is listening anyways. (hope you caught the reference)
louslovechild - August 7, 2007
yeah
theriot is quickly beocming mr dependable...but is left stranded time and time again by our 3-5 slots. the amount of players left on base yesterday was incredibly frustrating.holycow07 - August 7, 2007
I'm not going to panic
becasue of the loss of a player whose been hittng .255 since the All-Star break.This teams been pretty lackluster in a few areas the past week.
It's amazing how freaked out people get.
phat
phatass - August 7, 2007
Bat Kendall 2nd
and demote Cedeno. Dude sucks..CubFaninCA - August 7, 2007
It's all about the pitching anyway.
Lou had been publicly cranky about the team's record against leftys, and preaching resting people during August in the middle of 20 non-stop games. He'd never admit it, but this was a throwaway for him.Power, shmower. They got there w/o it, let them continue the killing by a thousand cuts. If every guy gets a single or walk, the game will be well in hand.
Matt Allison - August 7, 2007
I loved that
Rich Hill pitched a great game it's just sad that his team couldn't get runs for him. Today is a new day and they will try again to get a win.sue369 - August 7, 2007
Well
at least we are STIll only 1 game out and the Brew-crew is still on the road.... Keep the hope alive!Lou In Blue - August 7, 2007
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