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Overflow Thread: Cubs vs. Brewers, Thursday 5/1, 1:20 CT

Let's win this series!

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What is this “injury delay”?? Anything notable?

Gallardo faked an injury.
Soriano

needs to be more patient

Wow...sure glad Soriano is adding that much needed ooomph to the top of the lineup!

What is the point of leading him off when things were working so well? Anyways, have to listen to this game at work so “GO CUBS GO!!!”

with steriods..

Cameron could of had a HR.

Stupid Ryan Braun!!!! Google eyed freak!!!! Dang it!!!!!
Wow

Reed Johnson does have a tendency to be a sort of ballhog out there, but that was probably his ball to catch

Ofcourse that was his to catch

He’s the CF….When he is calling for it, the RF needs to get the feek out of the way.

Cripes!!!!!! Great....boneheaded play in the outfield and now we blow it!!!!

Come on Cubs get your heads outta your butts!!! Man oh man….soon as I start listening to the game…BLAMMO…crap starts happening….

stop listening, please
maybe you should

turn the radio off. :D

blow what? the game??

step away from the ledge.

Reed’s first ever error in CF, if i recall correctly….

Time for Z to take over.
Z has had it lol
FUKUDOME

THROWS OUT FIELDER AT HOME!

the ground SHOOK!

but the Rhino is brought down by the spears of the happy villagers…

alrighty then

FUKUDOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take that you tubby vegetarian!!!!!!
wHAT HAPPENED
Fielder thrown out at the plate
Hall hit it into Right

Fielder tried to score. Fukudome took him OUT with a strike to Soto.

Dome made up for his mental error earlier in the inning

and threw Fielder out at home on a single. Fielder barrelled into Soto who hung on to the ball for 3rd out of inning

Gunned down Fats!!

Woo Hoo! Makes up for the screwup.

DIRTY.

That was a little dirty. Fielder shoved his elbow into Geovany’s face. WTF? You’re not supposed to lead with your shoulder and arm like that. Way to go Geo. Helluva throw from Kosuke too.

Not dirty...

that’s exactly how you do it. You lead with your shoulder and forearm as a runner. Otherwise, you take the brunt of the collision yourself. It’s a painful play for the catcher, but that’s the way it goes.

Not how I was taught.

You don’t go for the face. I was told you’re supposed to cross your arms and just run into him. NOT go for the face like the replay seemed to indicate, although such a thing could be inadvertent on Fielder’s part too.

My question is: why in the world is he running on Fukudome's arm?
Yost

has apparently substituted his third base coach with Wavin Wendle (sp?)

Wendall, as in Wendall Kim

but since some of us seem to think he’s become Dusty, it wouldn’t surprise me. heh.

To be honest...

I don’t think he was aiming for anything but Soto in general. You’re running full speed and trying to deliver a blow. It’s hard to line up your hit exactly in the chest if you don’t do it regularly.

And what you were taught as a child has a lot more to do with the fact that little kids shouldn’t be hitting other little kids in the face. It’s a little different at the next level.

FYI - Brenly agrees...

it was a high hit, but not a dirty play. Just good hard baseball.

Even so.

It looked like he was trying to elbow him in the face. I realize it’s a hard play, but still.

At least we can take heart that it wasn’t Barrett, who probably would have slugged him. ; )

I don't think he was TRYING to elbow him in the face...

again, at full speed, you’re just trying to deliver a big blow. It’s hard to aim when you’re running that hard. I really don’t think he was trying to elbow Soto in the face.

Which is why I said it could be inadvertent on his part.
Wasn't arguing with the "inadvertant" part...

I was arguing with the “dirty” part.

If it was intentional, it was dirty. I do not think it was intentional. Thus, I think it was not dirty.

Semantics.

I said I thought it was dirty, but it also could have been inadvertent. You win, congratulations.

You didn't say "I thought."

You said “that was a little dirty.”

To clarify...

My replies to your “I thought it was inadvertant” weren’t arguing. Just pointing out my view of the play. I agree that neither of us can know what is actually the case. Please don’t take it so contentiously.

Soto's got balls of steel for hangin' in there on that play.

I gotta see the replay…there will probably be a video clip up on gameday.

That's why

i love gameday 2008 b/c they have more video clips. Even got to see Gallardo’s injury

Yeah, I must admit, it's pretty sweet.
Just Saw the replay in the boss' office.

Soto had to be sh*ttin his pants.

Just watched it on gameday myself.

Soto rolled with it really well. Killer throw by Dome!

Great throw...

Fielder’s not the fastest guy, but that was a really good throw.

Now that play at the plate needs to SPARK our offense!!! That is the kind of play...

that should be a turning point! Let’s GO CUBS!!!!! Yeah, the Brewers have thrown a couple cheap shots on the basepaths this series…..

God I

love Soto!

Let's hope Soto is still in one piece
Scrappy

is 3-3. Singles into center.

Now can we get him in, please?
Theriot!!!!
That was so freakin awesome.

Welcome to sportscenter top ten, Geo

You can't stop Ryan Theriot

You can only hope to cont.. hmm.

talk smack but the kid is 3-3
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world

that Theriot wasn’t awesome.

John Milton?
He never fooled me...

I knew the awesomeness was within him.

I like how Fielder gave him props
I think...

He was asking him what diet he was on last spring.

Meat, bitch.
Soto is lucky Jones isn't in right anymore

Soto would’ve still been waiting for the ball as it rolled to him and Fielder would’ve knocked him unconscious.

LOL, too true.
ROFL!

so true

He almost already was this year.

The first series against the Brewers. Remember?

What the heck happened with Theriot?????? MAN!!!!!
Theriot is 3-3...

but that was dumb.

WHAT IN THE HELL IS GOING ON
Not a good idea, Ryan.
Theriot with a bonehead decision

and makes first out at 3rd

Theriot doesn't make boneheaded decisions;

you’re thinking or Ronny Cedeno. Theriot only has too much heart.

what happened?

I had to put the radio down?

Grounder in the hole...

Counsell threw wildly to second and it rolled toward 1B.

Theriot tried to go to 3B and was thrown out.

Lee took second on the throw to 3B.

Too much scrap there from Theriot??????
Sacrifice?

rofl

stupid baserunning!!

Dammit!

You say stupid, I say agressive

Tee Hee

Who does he think is? Cedeno?
Stupid human mistakes!!!!!!
Yeah - but its "SCRAPPY"!

The scrappiest SS the Cubs have!

Typo on "scrappy"

looks like your S key is a little sticky.

Cubs?

Try anyone has.

Z is staying in?

Oh boy.

what'd he do?

n/t

Counsell picked up Lee's

grounder and threw is wide of second. The ball got away from Weeks and Theriot took off for 3rd. He was thrown out by a few steps.

That was one helluva scrappy out.

for those wondering. ball hit sharply off counsel, theriot diggs for 3rd, but Prince gets ball and throws him out. Also close play on lee going for second.

I spy a 3-1 count coming.
Fuku will win this one for us.......got a feeling......
Here's his chance

Rip it, Fuku!

There we go, there's the chant.
Lets go Dome!!
Dome is scrappy.
Correction

Dome is good.

Sorry, I meant to type snappy.
No

since “is scrappy” is usually a sarcastic synonym for “sucks”

Cmon, Dome

Just get a hit.

Like the other two times?
Bases should be loaded right now

grumble grumble

Oh but they are.
base hit dome
Swinging bunt!

NICE

Loaded up for DERO....come on Marky!!!!
i say d- ro squeezez gallardo cant move
Why is Gallardo

in the game?!

The man's name is Ned Yost.
YEA!

LOADED

woohoo

bases are loaded with one out

Fukudome with a base knock

n/t

alright, Mark

now’s the time.

Call for the Squeeze!
That would be messed up LOL
Just get the lead please....
Apple pays 99 cents for Fukudome to play a song.
And here is when it unravels.
sWINGING BUNT
he has a 1.000 SLG today

just absurd

Impressive stat...

..Did I hear that right….12 straight games the Cubs have had the bases loaded???

DeRo!!!!!!

time to be the hero….

Hit it 30 feet and gets a single...

when it’s going good, it’s going good.

Just kosuke being kosuke
* Dome being Dome

(as i said in the last thread. trying to get it to catch on. haha)

Derosa has the tendancy to try for the HR

with bases loaded…..I’ve noticed.

ever since

game 3 against Arizona i irrationally fear dero up with the bases loaded. bad associations

Gallardo got away with one big time
fukudome's tears cure cancer

too bad he has never cried.

hahahahahahah
Sac Fly!

2-1

sac fly!

2-1 CUBS! Lee scores on DeRo’s sac fly!

LEE GOT IN!

2-1

YESSIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRR
way to go Mark.

Here we go big boy Soto!!!!!

NICE! Play at the plate?
SOTO! SOTO! SOTO!
that was a fat pitch for soto
WOOOO WHOOO

Sac fly!

alright Geo

make Sue SWOON!

that's what i'm talking about
Oh GEO!!!!!!!!!!!
There is no Ctrl on Mark DeRosa's computer

He is always in control. Always.

OH HELL YEAH
FAIR BALL!

Ramirez scores, Fukudome out at the plate. But it’s Cubs 3, Brewers 1.

Piniella out to argue

He’s ticked.

And I think he has a good case. It looks like Fukudome got in under the high tag.

GEO!

scores Ramirez, Fukudome out at the plate. Pinella’s arguing.

DOme was safe

got under it

lou

kick some dirt on him

ball beat him by too much
OH COME ON SAVVE AS HELL
GEO!!

Is Lou out there???

I'd rather have our

pen, even with middle relievers, than theirs!

dome was safe by a lot

and it was pretty clear. crappy tag by kendall

You mean scrappy tag?

; )

He was safe...

that’s the classic “ball beat the runner” call. But Fukudome definitely tagged the base before Kendall tagged him.

Whatttt no
He got under that tag.

Total bs.

Dome was robbed.
Damn, he actually was safe.

Ah well, the ball beat him by a mile. Two good throws by the Brewers that inning.

what happened???

gameday not telling.

Fukudome slid his leg under in between Kendall

but Kendall got his arm. It looks like he got his leg on base before he was tagged, but eh.

He was out

come on, enough of the homerism. He was out, next inning we go.

No, he really wasn't. All homerism aside.
It's not just homerism
He was safe at home – the home plate ump blew the call. (Thank God.)
– roguejim, from Brew Crew Ball
So because a guy from BrewCrew says it,

it’s automatically true?

Good enough for me. We’re just gonna have to disagree on this.

Um, no?

Leave Artie McStrawman alone. You said “enough of the homerism”. If someone from the other side says the same thing, is it really homerism? Answer: No.

Look at what I said, dude.

“We’re just gonna have to disagree on this”

Well okay, but if you're going to mischaracterize what I said like that, I'm going to correct you, regardless whether you agree.
Alright, so one fan

from the other team agrees, while 10-12 people from here say he’s automatically safe doesn’t constitute homerism?

I didn’t misinterpret anything, I’m saying that once he was tagged, people automatically thought he was safe because a) the crowd boo’ed, b) Piniella came out and c) it was a close call. It could have gone two ways, yes, but the sudden comments brought up right afterwards only went one way.

Before you try to correct me, read what I’m really trying to say before you get offended.

Haha, there you go again.

Maybe you should read what other people said instead of telling me to read yours, which I characterized correctly. I don’t think anyone based their decision on “the crowd booing” or “Piniella coming out” or just because it was a “close call”. They made their decisions based on ….. the replay …. that they saw … with their own eyes …

And it’s not just one fan over there. Go count them at bizarro BCB. Go ahead, I’ll wait. Just about everyone who piped up over there agrees it was a bad call. I’m not offended, just stating what’s obvious to anyone who doesn’t want to cry “homerism”.

Also, cheese. Go Cubs.

I saw it REAL TIME

before I even looked at the replay….seriously.

Then you, sir, have better eyes than mine.
I do have good eyes and always have

but the 65” HD helps alot! :-)

Mine is only 53. A-ha!
That wasn't even the basis of your primary argument

But whatever, you’re right, I’ll leave it alone.

Who cares what the basis is?

Fukudome’s foot BEAT THE TAG! Under no circumstances were you right. Whether or not the basis of anyone else’s argument is solid doesn’t make your statement any less wrong.

Did I not just say he was CORRECT?
Yes, but you're still mischaracterizing what I said.

My comment was, “It’s not just homerism.” Then I quoted the opinion of a Brewers fan, who could not possibly be a homer. I didn’t say, “One fan from Brew Crew Ball said it, therefore it’s true,” which is what you keep clinging to.

Sweet mother of Mary, let this end.

northsider, you’re right about every possible facet of this argument, in every way shape and form, without any exception whatsoever about anything.

10 minutes later, SouthernCub will come in just to argue more.

Come on guys.

Let’s just cheer for the Cubs to win.

LSA

Which they are, thankfully!

haha

Can I print this out to show my mother?

(who thinks I'm never right, and is actually probably not wrong herself)
No need to be rude about it...

Dude, you were wrong. All I did was present arguments as to why you were wrong. No need to make rude comments.

And he shows.
Good one...

you’re so clever – make rude comments and I’ll respond.

Yes, after making a snippy comment about it...

But since at least you seem to realize that he was actually safe, that’s all that mattered.

The reactions on this thread...

were based on seeing the replay (at least mine were), not the fan reaction on TV.

The call was incorrect. Doesn’t matter whether people were saying it for the right or wrong reasons. It was the INCORRECT call. You replied saying it was the correct call. That was also INCORRECT. Trying to rationalize it is silly.

No, what makes it true...

is that his foot beat the tag.

The call was out, but it was not the correct call.

And as northsider noted, it’s not a “homer” thing to say that Fukudome should have been called safe. It’s just a rational statement based on the replay.

Yep, go watch the replay on Gameday.

Dome’s foot hits the plate before Kendall applies the tag. Very close play, but the ump got it wrong.

it was not the correct call.

Word.

We’re just gonna have to disagree on this.

Having a great HD bigscreen, I saw it during the play that Fuku slid under the tag.
And then the replay from several angles confirmed it.

Fuku was indeed robbed, and I hop it doesn’t come back to bite us in the end.

I’m just sayin…

damn

guess that did come back to bite us in the end…

Well
So because a guy from BrewCrew says it, it’s automatically true?

Yup! :)

Bob

even said he was safe.

Take a look

at where the tag was…on the shoulder. However, that’s the equivalent to the neighbourhood call at 2nd…never give it to you.

What's up with Sinatro's arm/elbow?

Was he wearing that brace last night?

Whenever a hitter who wears it at the plate...

...gets on base, Sinatro takes it and holds onto it by putting it on his elbow

Makes sense

Thanks

Sinatro...

I think he just puts those ankle/elbow protectors that various guys wear so he doesn’t have to hold them while they are on base.

Z still in?

He’s up around 90 pitches, no?

Try over 100
Instant replay in baseball anyone??

n/t

No.

The game is too long as it is. And the Umps really do do a good job. We get our breaks, too. Like that HR call on the road.

true

good call on the HR – just feel bad for Dome

Now, will Z come back out now that we have a two run lead?
He was safe....GRRRRRRR...but we have the lead....now lets hold on baby!!!
fukudome once went to the virgin islands

they are now referred to as “the islands.”

ROTFLMAO!
Fukudome destroyed the periodic table

The only element Fukudome follows is the element of Suprise (abbreviated Sr).

The Eiffel Tower

Was actually called Le Tour de Fuk

under Fukudome's hat there's no hair

there’s just another bat ready to hit a home run.

He's good for 110-115

Z pitched over 100 last outing…

You mean

braun did something decent defensively . . . impossible

Glad I got the chance to check in!

Z homers, Soto with his awesomeness, Dome kicking butt. I better stay tuned!

I love Soto he is going to be an all star....

anyone think Marmol could make it if he keeps it up

they just showed the replay

and he was safe

Still think so after the replay, Nittany?
My words get taken out of context so bad

Yeah I’m wrong, and I also steal baby kittens.

We need an appeal...

Find that Supreme Court Justice….

I would love to see Lou arguing a case before a Supreme Court justice.

I can just see him taking the smooth, polished, lawyerly approach, strong rhetoric, and then just going nuts and kicking dirt on his black robe. haha

He was safe....

but the ball beat the runner by enough

the ump was moving around too much

when dome slid. umps are sposed to be absolutely still when judging a play. its better to have part of the play blocked from your view then to be moving like that – he couldnt see anything.

Well one on with one out now....anyone up in the pen????
Marmol up

Z is over 100 pitches

Carlos Zambrano once beat the sun in a staring contest

True story. Saw it happened.

Then he gave up back to back singles.
That was a strike in the third inning.
Kendall

continues his career as a cub-killer.

110 pitches for Z. 1st and 3rd, 1 out.

Here we go Marmol
Pull Z out now.......dang it Kendall you bum!!!!
Go to the Pen

White Castle time

superman wears

fukudome pajamas to bed

Marmolade time.

Hope you’re thristy.

I gotta say it: I hate Jason Kendall.
PITCHING CHANGE

IN: 49 Marmol RHP
OUT: 38 Zambrano RHP

double switch, rest coming soon

Marmol's in now.

warming up.

Jason Kendall probably shaves 7 times a day.

jeez

we have two errors are are leading.

Gahhhh.....I want another 19-5 game....these good games make my heart hurt!!!

AHHHHH STOP DEFENSIVE SUBBING FONTENOT

Trust in the Marmol and Woodman......just no Howry please!!!!!
DeRo out

Fonty in.

Why did Lou do this?
Needs more scrap?

You gotta keep that average GRIT level up. Also I think Lou associates bad offensive play with good defensive play.

Why not Onedec?

Come on Lou

was marmol's name ever settled?

is it “mar-mel” or “mar-MOLE” ?

i like “mar-mel” a lot better, like how len and bob say it. “mar-MOLE” is how the national guys say it.

This is a good question, I don't know.
In Spanish...

it is pronounced “mar-MOLE”

but that’s often not how American play-by-play guys pronounce things.

Mar-MOLE

He’s got an accent over the a, which you’d pronounce it like that.

Actually...

if there is an accent over the “a”, then it would be pronounced: MAR-mole.

I didn’t know there was an accent over the “a.”

In either case, he “a” makes an “ah” sound, and the o makes an “oh” sound. If the accent is on the “a”, then the first syllable is said with more emphasis.

I described my post wrong

you’re right, that’s what I was trying to get at.

K on WEEKS!

Marmolicious!

Marmol

can kill two birds with one stone

Big K indeed!!
K!!!!!!!! Sit down Weeks!!!
MARMOL!

STRIKEOUT 2 outs

SIT THE HELL DOWN
yes, K baby!
Does Marmol like to pitch from behind?????
Jeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzus!!!! Would love to not have bases loaded with Braun up
Can I help you?

no thanks, just looking

marmol looks like obama.

n/t

Careful - Obama is

a Sox fan!

sit down

your table is ready!

K!

back to back Ks!

Enjoy singing, Bob!

GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE PUNK
Here comes the Ueck
Love me some Marmol
marmol is sick

here comes uecker

SIT YOUR CANDY ASS DOWN
WHEEEEEW

God that guy is solid!

He is amazing!!!!

Might be i dare to say the most unhittable pitcher in baseball right now

marmol, you are a monster!
marmol, you are a monster!

Future Cubs closer (when Woody retires, of course) :-)

Holy WOW!!!! Marmol gets behind 3-0 to both guys and comes back to K them!!!

My heart is pounding…..oh my god it’s Uecker singing….we gonna let Brennaman sing next time??

Whew!

That is yet another reason why Marmol is more valuable to the team in the middle innings role and not as closer.

at least as a reliever
You've gotta respect Uecker

Handles the stretch great.

wow....that was big!
lordy i love Marmol!
yeah baby!

Might want to update your sig.
YA CAN'T HIT WHAT YA CAN'T SEE!!!
Is Uek getting

booed?

wouldn't it be funny

if Uecker cheered for the Indians

JUST

a bit outside…

that was interesting

“And it’s root, root root for the” and then he says Brewers, but no one can hear him because everyone screams CUBBIES!

Everyone was expecting it

A great performance by everyone involved

Who else gets behind 3-0 and comes back to K a guy in a situation like that?

Marmol’s ma BOY

woooo

i think he gets down in the count on purpose to let the hitter think he has a chance

it is kind of cute what he does with the song

“it’s root root root for the brewers, you do the same for the Cubs.”

i’ll give him that.

Marmol better than Joba Chamberlain????

Bet the bugs wouldn’t bug Carlos…he would eat ‘em!!

dont mention that to anyone at ESPN..

..they want to enshrine Joba in the HOF

hahaha

ahahhaha that was awesome

Carlos Marmol....

...can win a game of Connect Four in three moves.

was lou smiling after cameron K'd?
Wouldn't you?
most definitely!
I love Uek, too

but he is pushing it when he comes down to sing…

No way

He handles the stretch great and laughs along with the crowd.

Yeah, at least he acknowledges that we "do the same for the Cubs." He's no Marty Brennaman.
Wheee....now we get to hit against the Brewer pen!!!!
This should be fun :)

Yeah, that was a perfect Marmol usage time. It’s like he is looking ahead to that K pitch the whole time, even while getting down 3-0.

Think Yost infection

will try Turnbow?

HAHA

Turnblow is my hero.
chuck norris

can we have a new chuck norris on our hands
carlos marmol doesnt sleep he waits

Bob Uecker

Who thinks Bob is going to do a repeat of the 7th from last year? Last year he sang, "Root, root root for the Brewers, and you can do the same for the cubs, cuz it’s one, two…….."

He already did....

And yes, he did….

Well that answers it.

He pretty much said the same thing except “I always root”

Singing the song correctly

should be a requirement I think, but then again, about only one in ten people actually get all the words correct. I know, I know, it is a difficult bunch of lyrics.

Usually, yes

But I think a hall-of-famer Mr. Baseball can change it up a little.

Relax.

He’s having fun with it. Besides, which would you rather have; this or Ozzy?

I'll take an order of Turnbow please......
Yikes...kind of poopy pitching matchups against the Cards......
One order of Turnbow

and a side of Gag-me, coming up, Sir. (we can hope)

Fonty

scrapps his way on.

"That guy's been hot! Wow!" - Bob Uecker on Fontenot

Oh, he’s a jokester too, folks!

pitching

rather have good ones against the brewers than the cards

Good hit Fonty! Uggghhh....Soriano is up....oh well.....
C'mon, Alfonso, give us some hope.
Sori

pops out.

Uh, well, he did hit in the air. Progress?
Kinda funny how we gotta wait till our number 2 hitter comes up for our lead off man to hit
he didn't do any better

FWIW.

Sori

is really bad so far. I know its his first game back. C’mon

Wow...

was that boos already for Fonzie?

He scrapped it too hard.
Could leadoff be in Sori's contract

Do you guys think there was a clause in his contract that said he had to bat leadoff??

if that were the case

why would he say publically that he’d do anything Lou wanted him to?

I think Lou knows he’s comfortable there, and wants to give him a LITTLE bit of time after he comes back from the DL.

Wow. Al must be having a GREAT time.

Yeah he has that

It specifically says he has to hit leadoff except for Games #1 & 2 of the season

Crazy lawyers.
Who's pitching the 8th?

n/t

Good question. No way it's Howry.
Well Marmol meets the heart of the Brewer lineup.....
nervous now.................
Already?
it's about that time...
WHOA!

A not-bad-looking girl in the crowd held up a sign that asked someone to “Give Prom with Me a Shot!” Who are these guys turning her down??

PIE IS IN!

Our offense is saved

Marmol is

Devin Hester “ridiculous”

Braun goes down!

3 batters, 3 ks for Marmol.

Does braun look at little like....

fat ass is still tired from his jaunt sround the bases
Marmol = K's
FOUR Ks for Marmol!
another one bites the dust
Fielder strikes out called.

NICE

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

UNHITABLE

Hart just bunted for a base hit.

So, not quit. :P

MARMOL!!!!! Wow...just wow....Corey Hart is a coward!!!!
I almost feel

bad for the Brewers hitters…almost.

Smart bunt by Hart…avoids the K…reaches base.

MAX WHO?
Hart punks out

“No way I’m trying to hit that.”

Does Fielder look a little like....

hey hey hey

FAAAAT Albert!

Yes, but with baggier clothes.
Woody is warming up
I really HATE Corey Hart....he bugs me tons.....
0-2

Come on Marmol!

Barely got a peice.
Marmol bringing the extra nasty today
Hall pops up!

three outs!

Billy Hally

flies out to Fukudome!

Marmol is a God.
Inning over...Marmol is better than Joba if only ESPN noticed....
Marmol plays way too far west for that to happen ; )
If Marmol played for the Yankees...

...ESPN would interrupt broadcasts of other teams’ games to show him pitching.

Marmol is way better

and maybe if we had an owner like hank steinbrenner (say maybe cuban) we would get as much coverage on ESPN as the yankees (sarcasm font in use).

nice outs for Marmol
Wow, this is weird

usually MLB.tv blacks out in between innings, this time it didn’t.

And the cameraman zoomed in a blonde for a good 20 seconds. Perv

Nice part is Woody won't have to face the meat of the Brewer lineup.....

Why not score some insurance runs though just for giggles…...

Case and point

as to why Marmol is more valuable as a set up man. Would you have rather seen Wood instead of Marmol just now? I would guess not.

Lee

flies out.

Lee fouls out down RF line.

Nice catch by Hart.

Yikes

That’s a scary Cubs/Cardinals pitching matchup this weekend

which are???
Anyone not named Zambrano or Dempster for us...
Matchups:

Friday: Hill/Wainwright
Saturday: Lilly/Lohse
Sunday: Marquis/Wellemeyer

Yeah

that firghtens me.

Marmol laughs in the face of death.....he might just strike God out if given the chance....
Hill, Lilly, Marquix
CUBS vs CARDS matchups

This game comes first, but after that:

FRI: Hill (1-0, 3.79) vs Wainwright (3-1, 2.79)
SAT: Lilly (1-4, 6.46) vs Lohse (3-0, 2.36)
SUN: Marquis (1-1, 4.45) vs Wellemeyer (2-1, 4.14)

Looks like 3 Cubbie wins!!!!!!!
soriano will win it for us on sat and sunday.
I'm going to have faith in our bats

Jobu has RUM!

Crikey, Aramis has K'd three times today. That's unusual.
was just about to say the same thing...

He’s usually pretty good at avoiding the K

Criminee, Soriano is 0-4 today

but that’s not unusual

I don't see why he couldn't go through the minors first
Agreed...

if nothing else to see a few “almost MLB quality” pitches for a game or two.

Maybe it's politics?

Doesn’t sit well having all that money being paid to play in the minors…?

I think Canadian Cubs Fan is right...

it’s ego. Soriano wants to rush back, and doesn’t think he needs a game or two in the minors first.

you're prolly right

and I agree that he SHOULD have to ease back into it through the minors.
Why put the club at risk by playing shitty?

Plus, heck – it might even keep him from reinjuring his leg by trying too hard too fast….

I think he has enough

major league experience where he can veto such a move, like Sosa did a few years back

Dome is 4 for 4 today
*Yawn*

Dome being Dome.

FUKU

is the MONSTER

Fuke

is my hero. Should be hitting 2nd though.

4-4 Fukudome!

n/t

Unstoppable.
Fuke

Definately needs to move to 2nd. He isnt much of an RBI guy.

Agreed...

but Piniella seems adamant about “splitting up the RH bats.”

Is it possible for the votes

to tie resulting in Co-Rookies of the Year

Fuku....4 for 4.....man he is all that he was advertised to be....Soto and Fuku fight it out

for rookie of the year?????

Apparently the SI Cover didn't hex Fuku today
Fuku can only be cursed by the Japanese cover of SI
exactly.
Actually, Fukudome can't be cursed. By trying, now SI is cursed, doomed to losing subscribers and money and .... wait ... Fukudome works quickly.
Is the SI issue out yet?
read mine yesterday.
Have it in my hands
4-4

He’s hitting 1.000 in May. He also helped young inner-city youths in Arlington Heights on how to stay off drugs, and saved a kid from being run over by a car before the game.

You forgot how he spent all night cooking breakfast for the homeless
"inner-city youths in Arlington Heights" is an oxymoron

And should I know, because I live there.

You mean the mean-street products of Buffalo Grove High School

aren’t juvenile delinquents?

My 'hood is a dangerous place.

The other day someone’s automatic lawn sprinkler went off, and I got soaked.

D'oh.

Picked off.

don;t you mean

D’oh-mey?

D'oh-vey!

A little culture mix :)

the SI HEX MUST BE REAL!!!
How dare they pick him off!

Dude.

Let's Go WOODY!!!
good game so far

one could say

One could. Let's hope it gets better in three outs.
WOOD!
a little control issue

Woody hits Counsell.

You're in the jungle, baby
Bad omen

same as opening day.

dammit

how many times can you be ‘too amped up’?

let's stop

the repeat of opening day right now…

Ughhh.....son of a b.....Counsell is pesky and now I feel ill.....
Buckle down, Wood...

Don’t let the leadoff HBP get you in trouble.

Hate the HBP

but glad it was that little weasel.

Favorable count for Wood....
HE did this in the

OPENER!

DUDE!!

Soriano

misses the ball over his head. Stand-up double. runners at 2nd and 3rd, no one out.

well shit

looks like i picked a bad time to start blogging

time to bear down

Woody.

What happened?

Did he do the patented Mis-play?

Hmm...

Well, not much room for error now.

Did he miss the catch? Or unplayable?
it was playable
He misplayed it...it went over his head

n/t

Fook

looked like Sori didn’t get a great jump on that…

No, no, no. This is not happening.
Jesus.....welcome back Soriano you jackass!!!!
run scores, infield single for Kendall.

3-2

Damn

It’s opening day all over again!!!

this sucks balls
Why is he still out there?

He so afraid of the damn wall it’s not even funny! Dammit!!

And freaking Jason Kendall...I knew it!
Lucky

this game is officially blown.

Uh, not yet.
Did he at least

Get a good jump AT it?

Maybe is Sori would have HOPPED
Well this sucks.....why oh why?????
this is unreal!!!
Wood is not a closer

How many 9th inning implosions does this make it?

Not a good time to join in.
Have you ever known joy before?
Surprise surprise...

BlueMike comes on board to celebrate things going badly for the Cubs.

Don't overpitch here Wood...
Forget this game. Thanks dumbass Kerry

Hit the leadoff man.

Thats a bit uncalled for

Say he pitched crappy, not that.

THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING
In fairness...

this not a good situation.

and here come the naysayers

Hi, Blue Mike.

Hello Jay Mariotti article in the morning
this really sucks.....man oh man......stunning....yuck.....
Soriano

still sucks and is soooooo afriad of the wall

friggin counsell too. that guy is like a small, oompa-loompa like thorn in our side
Oh no, the signs are coming

darkness is spreading, and the trolls are near.

hahaha

Forboding…....

Jesus

no kidding.

The old Kerry

is back. Warm someone up Lou!

Wood walks weeks

bases loaded. nobody out.

ouch.

bases loaded

nobody out
sigh

bases juiced

for the juicer

Where's Sue?

I think it’s time for an alternate game thread.

we need

a coupla infield pop flies.

good K candidate
Wood is not a closer, he's just not

Let’s end the charade and insert Carlos Marmol into the role. Nice outfield play by the $136 million man too.

please instead of just bitching

back up your comments as well

You really are a clown
Where the hell

were you when we had the lead earlier in the game. Oh I know, it would have killed you to say anything positive.

Unfreaking-believable....should have left Marmol in.......boy this is an implosion....

sigh….grrr…sigh

Need a weak grounder to the mound here.
come on triple playyyyyyyyyy
ya

what you said

Is anyone up

in the bullpen?

Game over
Funny, I thought this was a home game
do NOT say that

when the game is not over. It is NOT over.

Anyone remember

when Blanco told Zambrano that if he walked one more person, he was going to punch him?

Soto needs to do that to Wood, now.

Missed that one.

It sounds pretty hilarious, though.

Other than Marmol

our bullpen is crap right now.

or maybe 3 K's
Woody is learning

there is no room for error when your specialty is pitching one inning.

Andddddd I'm nervous.
I know one thing

if Woody blows this, Z is gonna be pissed!!

swing and a miss

sigh

Okay

That’s one

Uuf, just outside

1-2

Wood K's Cameron.

1 out.

My Kingdom for a 6-4-3
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WOOOOOD GETS A K!! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Need a DP here
i second that
hold on to your butts
need 3 Ks

correction – 2 Ks

Help

I can’t watch. Too painful!

one quick come-backer

for a game ending DP.
Come on, Woody!

I hate Ryan Braun
The auspiciuos start of

Alfonso Soriano!

Let's not blame this on Wood.

If Sori would have caught that one it would have been a different ball game. Next time Lou should put in a defensive replacement for Sori.

Wood has the mind

of a closer just not the stuff.

He's peaking at 97 MPH

Are you serious?

dp now...

it’s like a Rod Beck game but with fewer doghnuts on him

over Dome's head

two runs score. Weeks is out. Double for Braun.

Braun

over Fukudome’s head, 2 runs score, the third is out by a ton. 2 down, but it’s 4-3 Brewers.

How big is the

FUKU play now?

CONGRADUATION'S BASHERS

THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED!

Would rather

have had a win.

Blame the players

not bashers.

Idiot.

Blame both...

the players for screwing up AND the bashers for only posting when things go badly. The name calling is also unnecessary.

Right, moron!
isn't this what you wanted

afterall you say Wood is an AWFUL closer? You just get your wish!

No I didn't say that
Fuck

nice job Woody.

maybe we'll get luck and get Turnblow
Wood instills zero confidence as a closer

This is the 4th game where he has imploded already.

pardon my french

but shut the fuck up

The Truth Hurts
Shiza, Brewers lead 4-3

Lead the Apocalypse begin.

Brain O'Nora costs us the game with his out call on dome at the plate

what a piece of shit, open your eyes behind the plate you tool.

Can't ever blame it on the umpires.
NO, a closer who repeatedly can't shut the door cost us the game
It should be a tie game right now
More like a "loyal" fan who focuses on every single miscue cost us our sanity.
get his ass out of there
Fielder

4-3. 3 out.

Fielder out

bottom of teh ninth we go.

poor z :(
Good point

HR 6 plus, 1 ER…deserved a win.

Devastating. Just devastating.
I hate this game....what a freaking heartbreaking game....I screamed the F bomb

at work…....man I am sick…...the Brewers have our number…..talk about turning this week around real quick….wow….....I was so pumped and now just sick….I hate the Brewers

there are

three outs to go.

It’s not a good situation. But it’s not over either.

This could be a turning point game
Nice job Woody

Chokeartist!

Wood the enigma continues, this time as a reliever
Keep going, dude, how many different ways can you say the same thing?

It’s really adding a lot!

Dude, now you're just reveling in the blown save...

stop.

Wood has seen his last game as closer.
No, he hasn't.
Marmol needs to be closer
Why, so you can bitch and moan about Marmol instead?
No, Because

Wood’s confidence is flagging.

Marmol is needed

where he is. And you know it.

Nope

Lou will give him plenty more chances.

Don't worry.

We still got this.

Agreed

It’s one run….

WOOD CANNOT CLOSE

Too pumped up to be effective…Marmol should pitch the 9th from now on.

He's too dumb. Hitting guys and grooving pitches - he just doesn't think
sorry, but can't walk the leadoff guy as a closer...

just CANNOT

He didn't walk him. He hit him.
I wish I had your confidence.
At least Lou believes in meritocracy

Wood won’t see the 9th inning for weeks now

THERE IS HOPE
forget not all of you who wanted wood

over Marmol

great

i have come to the conclusion that people on this board love it when the Cubs are losing, hense:

1. they only come on at this time
2. they love to bitch and bash but not back up their statements
3. they continue to post the same ideas about how this team sucks in more than one post

There's no way that should have happened with 7-8-9 up. Marmol

would have shut the door on them

Gagne is just as

bad, but has a few years more experience as a closer…

What a shame.

Gag-Me's in...

we have hope

I'd much rather have people from BrewCrewBall

come over here and bash the Cubs, at least they say they don’t like the Cubs. It’s like the trolls here have some kind of annoy-the-hell-out-of-everyone magic to alert them once the Cubs are losing.

All we need is one boys
If you all want Marmol to close....

Who’s going to get us out of those tight jams like earlier today?

Therein lies the problem
We are not bashing the Cubs

but you have to admit Wood has not done the job he was paid to do.

wind is blowing out

Let’s Go Cubbies

The trolls are the ones with undying faith in Soriano and Wood
This doesn't even make sense.

Good one, though.

Soriano is the 2nd worst contract behind Zito, sorry but the guy is terrible. Inconsistent
wtf are you talking about

more incomprehensible than usual, BlueMike.

Yeah, this is absolute nonsense.
pssst,

your ignorance is showing

Who do you call for house manufacturing, and baseball hitting?

AND THERE IS YOUR BASERUNNER
Yes ONEDEC!
as we said to Kerry

can’t walk the leadoff guy as a closer

That a boy Ronnie
BOOOO

CEDENO WALKS, WHAT A LOSER!!

IT all starts with ONEDEC
Cedeno with a great AB
STEAL please
Geo what are you swingin at
Enigma as a starter, now an enigma as a closer

Just make him a setup man and be done with it.

He wouldn't be an enigma there too?
He almost killed himself swinging so hard

rofl

The good news is

the only closer worse than Wood is Gagne

Lumberjack hacking on a tree

Calm it down, Soto

Soto

takes called strike 3

called strike 3

looking, ouch babe

...and now Felix Pie (groan)
do you ever have anything nice to say?
SHUT UP!
we should all

flag his posts. Maybe that will get him banned for good.

I flagged

one already.

Play for the tie at home?

Small ball? Bunt? Maybe??

Bunt him over for Fontenot?
C'mon Geo!
Another shit call from O'nora
How come Woody couldn't get one of those calls??
Can someone who was watching

tell me why, Soriano was playing so shallow? Don’t most bench coaches have OFers play at deep positions to avoid doubles?

F

It would have been nice to at least move him over

Soriano time to be a hero
This is Pie.

double-switch a while back

Don't know why but I thought Soto was batting 9th

Man, weird day.

"This has been one of the most inconsistent strike zones we've seen this season.

Flip a coin.” – Bob Brenly

We lost this game because Soriano sucks
Why are they still playing then? Practice?
Negative Nancy....

n/t

the game is NOT OVER

you utter tool.

Now you're just getting him off.

It’s his schtick.

Ew, there's an image I didn't need.
We lost the game

because no one likes you here.

I thought it would have no direct connection, but it does.

It definitely does.
*ding*

Fifty points and control of the board.

lowest strike ever
Felix

no confidence in him…

cmon prove me wrong

Game over?
how are we not running against Kendall?
haven't run on him

in 6 games now. Don’t get it.

Onedec

Is a scary thing on the basepaths

Strike out on pitch at his shoulders upcoming
How do you not pinch hit for Pie here?

n/t

6-4-3

game over

6-4-3 DP.

Brewers 4, Cubs 3.

What a load of garbage.
Retarded

loss. Embarrassing. We’re their bitches.

congraduations MDBNIU and all other trolls

you got the loss you wanted!

Learn how to spell!
why blame him?

I know you’re pissed, but that’s rediculous.

Have you not read all of his posts?

I am pretty pissed off right now too, but he is making irrational statements

This one hurts.
Maybe we should not reply to MDBNIUs comments

He feeds off them. Like a leech with blood.

agreed.

‘do not feed the troll’

Marmol 4 Closer
What a horrible ending

How big is that missed call at home plate??

Just a bit important.
Nice demoralizing loss

Soriano and wood make me sick, 136 million for a pile of shit ballplayer, unbelievable

Soriano Is Afraid Of The Wall

Horrible when it comes to going back on balls.

Let's be honest what is he actually good at?

He’s only out in left to entertain the fans, he has no clue how to play baseball, hes a waste

Same Old Cubs
Not really.

What was our record last year at this time?

14-14 5 games out

n/t

Record really doesnt mean much at the beginning of the year.

Sure im happy we are up there, but we are the same Cubs that you can never feel safe with no matter close the game is to being over. You always have to prepare yourself for the heartbreaking loss. I let my guard down this year early and it was a mistake cause we still have the same heartbreaking losses.

What you just

said could apply to any team. So you think the Cubs are the only team to lose games like this?

No ugh

I hate when everyone on here wants to jump down your throat if your unhappy about a loss, but you act as if the Cubs arent well known for breaking their fans hearts year after year. Did i say i couldnt handle it NO…im saying i let my guard down early this year and expected to be able to close out wins thats all.

We are going to have plenty more of these

this year, it just knots my stomach when you lose a game like this. Especially against the team that is your main rival for the division. Not that it’s any easier to swallow if it was the Reds or Pirates, but we had this game in the bag, mostly. That’s why they play the games and we feel like this when they lose.

We are 6-9 against "good" teams, 11-2 against "bad" teams this year.

just some stats, no comment.

define "good" vs" bad"?

We all thought Milwaukee was going to be cake. St. Louis, too.

"good" teams this year so far - MILW, PHL, NYM, COL

“bad” teams WSH, CINC, PITTS, HOU. I never thought Milwaukee was going to be cake.

Well...the Brewers OWN our butts at this point....regardless of last night's game....

They have taken the wind outta our sails…came into our house and took 4 of 6…....really not cool to let them do that….especially when Zambrano has pitched two great games against them and we lost both of them thanks to crappy bullpen…....hate to say it but we can’t feel good right now about the bullpen (except Marmol) or the situation in the Central….we don’t get to play the Pirates all season…..

THE SKY IS FALLING
Why don't

you try and find a team that does everything you want it to do. Good luck finding one.

Tampa's currently accepting applications.
Cedeno never took more than 2 steps

off of first. Why? Why?

Station to station

no aggressiveness in this team.

The luck evens out over the course of 162, guys. We had been getting more than our fair share.

Should have been a tie game....

woulda, coulda, shoulda. Oh well. Lets go bird hunting tomorrow!

Thank you Brian O'Nora for failing as an umpire
Well, every time

we came back in the bottom of the 9th, another team feels like crap too.

Tomorrow will be better.

We have come back

once in the 9th.

Only to lose in extras.

Opening day.

Same closers.

and we did it what,

ten times last year? A dozen?

Tomorrow will be better.

as a cub fan of many years...

i’m back to expecting them to blow it.

Slightly shocked Felix connected, until I consider that it’s the only thing worse than K’ing there

After this week? ROFL That's pathetic, dude.
of course

doesn’t mean i won’t be watching every pitch tomorrow.

You might want to change your user name...or at least your avatar.
oh well

he annoys me as much as anyone, but it was a nickname I got long before any message boards.

Yeah but....

Al isn’t so much a fan, and you are really kinda draping him in glory there.

2nd Place

does not sound so good.

It sucks for the players who did their jobs.

That’s baseball for ya.

Some of you are just sad.

Get over it. Horrible loss. Go have a glass of wine and relax.

Marmol for closer?

HELL NO. Someone PLEASE explain to me who comes in with 1st/3rd one out and gets out of that jam? And oh yeah, shuts em down in order the next inning. If Woody blew the game there you’d all still be whining. Instead of just complaining about everything, how about someone offers up a better solution? It’s really easy to bitch when things don’t work out, it’s a lot harder to know how to fix that problem.

Easy

Marmol pitches 2 innings, like the good old days. Start stretching him out gradually now and by mid-season he’ll be ready to come in the 8th and get the job done.

it does feel like the same old cubs

that i’ve loved and cheered on and believed in since 3rd grade (in waukegan, illinois) but i still believe…. year after year, i still believe this year will be different. and hopefully it is.

change is a coming
Really would rather take a blowout loss

These losses are so hard to swollow. The cubs give us another huge game to swallow.

how much good will with the fans do you think wood has left

i think it starts getting ugly for him if he doesnt start converting these saves

I heard the boos

no good will…winning trumps everything.

I think Woody

has fans nearly uncounted. He’ll figure it out, and he’ll make it work.

Im a little worried

about the way the way the Cubs are playing with Sori back.

The whole one game with him being back?

Is this some new unfounding land of sarcasm?

one game

that they LED in till the top of the NINTH and you’re WORRIED????

Yes.

Actually I was worried about it before he came back. Sorry if that is upsetting, I just don’t see anything good coming from him at all, granted he’s just off an injury, but we didn’t seem to miss him when he was gone.

ouch

hope this doesn’t get to Woody’s head. Too much.

I laugh at this board

it was so funny because we were discussing it yesterday that after everyone was excietd last night, if the cubs lost today, the trolls would come back and everyone would be in a panic mode!

I laugh at guys like you

who never seem at all bothered by a Cubs loss. But I guess that’s what makes you a true fan and the rest of us, who actually are bothered by blowing a late inning lead to one of our main rivals, trolls.

Im sorry

but this guy speak truth.

who says

we’re not bothered?

I’m bothered. It sucks to lose a game like this. But I’m not going to damn Soriano or Kerry Wood to hell because of it. I’m going to keep a positive outlook - this team has been dominating at times - and hope that tomorrow they play better.

They didn’t trail the entire game. They played well. Two mistakes in the ninth cost us the game.

Who said

it doesn’t bother us? I hate that we lost but what can I do about it? Bitching and whining in here solves nothing.

Every time anybody criticizes the Cubs for bad baseball

people like you refer to it as “bitching and whining”. I’m sure in your world we should blindly cheer everything the Cubs do but, unfortuantely, there are a lot of us out there who love the Cubs and are hurt when we see them lose.

no.

Every time Plenz or Blue Mike says “Soriano sucks” or “Bench Theriot” or “Woody can’t be a closer” we refer to it as bitching and moaning.

Funny that someone with the name “bluekoolaide” complains about blindly cheering.

look I am ok with people being pissed off because of games like these

but people who come on this board immediately when they are about to blow it or are losing (the only time they are ever on!) and bash about how such and such player sucks and is the worst player ever. You don’t like losing, but you can’t change the past. Games like this happen. Rivera, Papelbon, and Wagner have blown saves in their career as well..

Maybe you are but there seem to be a lot of people

on this thread who seem to never ever want to criticize the cubs. No matter how you look at it, this is a heartbreaking loss and anybody who isn’t hurt by it simply isn’t a real fan.

it is

and if you read a ton of my posts last season I always bitched after a loss. I am fine with that, but the people who consistantly come on this board when the Cubs aren’t performing well and continue to bash without supporting their argument (ie. OMG WOOD SUCKS HE IS AWFUL! Wood has blown too many saves? How many is this he is awful!) are complete nuisances.

I love people like you who just constantly post about the trolls

rather then the game that just finished up. Ignore their posts if it bothers you so much. Your more annoying then them.

F

Bummer loss. But we’re just out of first place and we’ve got 134 more to play.

Its more important how we react to this loss than the loss itself. Bounce back and beat down the Cards and we’ll forget about this.

Only worry here is Sori. He’s played terrible and the manager and team have to play to his ego rather than put him wherever they want, which includes hitting lower and defensive substitutions. Tha’s a crappy situation for a manager and team to be in.

Was listening to the game so I want to know should Soriano have caught that.....

ball in the 9th??? Sounds like it….if he makes that catch then maybe Wood gets the save??? Isn’t it funny how Soriano comes back and this happens??? Lou just went off on a reporter…..cursed…..

The ball was torched

was it catchable? Maybe but in a “highlight reel” kind of way

Um, we lost

Tues. night and Sori didn’t play. What was the excuse then?

Marquis Blows
This one sucks

These things do happen, gotta take the hat off for the Brewers, they kept it close the entire game and made us pay in the end with good hitting. Tough to swallow yes, but NOT the end of the world. We’ll get back on track, we’ve got the talent.

OT- Anyone else noticed on May 22nd of the Cubs.com schedule there is a picture of Indiana Jones.

Ugh

I honestly just feel sick after games like these. Im gonna watch tommorow im gonna root them on for life, but these losses truly make me sick and it takes me all night to eat.

Lou is pissed in postgame conference.

Swears at reporters. Conference over.

Hahah no way
Where can i watch this?
I'm still listening to Gameday Audio and they had it on there.

I’m sure you’ll be able to see it on the news tonight.

Good

cause i need, honestly need, to see Lou get made to help me get passed this terrible game.

I feel the same.
Part Of It

Might be Lou being upset with the spotty umpiring behind the plate.

Well, in day one returning

Soriano couldn’t have done worse.

His highs are so highs – and his lows are below ground.

Perhaps he’ll carry the team in St. Louis?

Can someone hightlight Lou's conference?

A little of what was said.

A reporter asked him something, I couldn't quite make it out...

...and he said something like, “Of course, I thought about it. What, do you think I’m stupid?” Then he paused and started to say, “Goddamnit.” But he caught himself and said, “Goshdarnit,” and then basically got up and left.

maybe there's a table in teh cub's locker room being knocked over right now.
Before that he said "You're god damn right I thought about it!!!" Refering to leaving Marmol in...
Yeah, I knew there was a swear in there somewhere.
No Lou was asked if he thought about subbing Johnson in LF for defense
Wow

That’s interesting.

I think the Yankees have proved that a lineup of stars doesn’t always mean WS titles. I like the lineup w/o soriano, but can’t think of what can be done.

There’s just no incentive for Sori to do well, and that is the single problem I believe. If he’s on DL and the manager already says he’s leading off, playing LF, why would he have to feel he’s got to get back and prove himself. If he’s getting $130 mn whether he does well or not, where’s the incentive. This is a tough situation to move forward with.

I think Lou can handle it, but its got to be tough.

Lou was asked about leaving Marmol in and went OFF on the reporter.....

then the presser was over…..he is NOT happy

Wonder If

Lou will consider doing that now?

Not likely

One or two games really doesn’t effect Lou much. He likes to stick to his guns. Look at “project pie” as an example.

That's What Worries Me

I fear Loyal Lou will win out over Practical Lou.

Some of you brush this off

with the “we’ll get ‘em tomorrow” attitude. That is great. I admire this.

However, just know that we won the Division last year by 2 GAMES. To the Brew.

These games blown to your Division rivals are JUST as important now, as in September.

I agree....it does not look good to let them take 4 of 6 in out park....and two of those in heartbreaking fashion...

they are gonna come outta hear with tons of confidence when we could have put a stop with that…..

Anyone who thinks our bullpen doesn't have problems

is lying to themselves.

Could both of those balls hit in the 9th have been caught?

I didn’t get to see it and people are telling me they could have.

The one to Soriano

should have been caught.

Bad Jumps

Kapler reached out and poked the ball, so it appeared to be a routine fly. That said I still wonder if Sori isn’t a bit gun shy because of his injury history. Braun’s hit was a bit harder and deeper, not sure why Kosuke wasn’t playing at the warning track to begin with.

I guess Sori shouldn't be out there in late game situations. But, how do you take out a guy with such a great arm??
The bullpen is broken

If some chose to live in denial on this subject, then so be it. Carlos Marmol and Jon Lieber are the only two who have gotten the job done. It’s as sadly simple as that. We will go nowhere as a ballclub until we resolve the closer job and middle relief.

maybe

but, there is no question that soriano should have caught the ball. if that doesn’t happen, we’re not talking about this and you’re talking about something else negatively.

Bottom line is that Wood is terrible

and as long as he remains are closer, we’re not going anywhere.
I’m not crazy about the idea of changing marmol from set-up to closer but a few more outings like this from Wood and i don’t know if he’ll have any other choice.

MVP's of the game....Zambrano, Fuku, Geo, Marmol....

billy goats of the day…Soriano (he should have caught that ball) and Wood (never start off by hitting the lead off man).........two guys waste the great effort of a bunch of other guys…....well onward we go…..

Sori At The Plate

Didn’t start watching until the 8th – did he go 0 for 4? 4 Ks?

First pitch ground outs.
ALL FOUR TIMES???

Ay dios mio

The two I saw.
Decaf

folks, 17-11, horrible loss, can’t dwell on it. Cards are in first, have to go play in well in StLouis.
Can sit back and pick this game a part, doesn’t do a bit of good. In 162 games you are going to have some tough losses, this just happens to be one of them.
Go Cubs, beat the birds this weekend.

Tolerable IF...

the problems are corrected. Better late inning defense and bullpen work needed.

Hope we don't get swept down there.

They will be fired up and always take advantage if we make any dumb mistakes. Wainwright is tough.

Plenty of blame to go around

Lou probably needs to plan for a defensive replacement in left. Soriano should have caught that ball but Fukudome also should have caught Braun’s ball. He got a bad jump. This bullpen is not doing the job. But they have to forget this one and win the series from the Cards. That will put us back in 1st place.

Fact?

Got this on a different forum: “Fact: cubs have now lost 3 out of 4 series against teams over 500.”

Which is why talks of getting to the world series is stupid, this team needs help
?

Detroit: 13-15
Cleveland: 13-15
New York Yankees: 14-15
Seattle: 13-15
Atlanta: 12-15
Colorado: 11-17
San Diego: 11-17

so I guess they are out of World Series contention as well

Nope

I think the Cubs have a strong chance, and obviously don’t agree that the idea is stupid. But I really think we have to make some changes. We cannot keep chugging along without stirring some things up to get the best possible outcomes. I think this game would have been won if a few things were changed by Lou. Also, we need to beat the Cardinals, just as bad as we needed to beat the Brewers. Can’t keep losing to the teams in our division that are right above or below us.

Exactly.

Before the season if we were told this team would start 17-11, we would have all been overjoyed, especially with the start of last seaon.

Last night this board made it sound like we were watching the greatest baseball team ever assembled and now today they can’t do anything right? Don’t get too high or low here people.

Yes, today’s loss is tough to take, and there are some holes on this team, but there are holes on every team. We are 28 games into a 162 game schedule. Chances are pretty high that the team that takes the field in October won’t be the same team that took the field today.

As for all the trolls: don’t feed them.

Onwards to tomorrow. Go Cubs Go!

WS Talk on May 1

is stupid, but realistically speaking the Cubs are there with the better clubs of the NL. Now maybe you can argue that the NL as a whole is weak, but if that’s what it takes for the Cubs to win then I’ll take it.

Wainwright is tough

but we have owned the Cardinals over the last few years. It’s time to find out if the Cards are for real. The fact is they have had the easiest April schedule in baseball. So, we’ll see.

They asked Lou if he

thought about putting a defensive replacement in left. He said, “you’re damn right I did. What , do you think I’m stupid or something?” He’s pissed.

so he thought about it

why the hell didn’t he do it then? Lou knows a lot more about his team then us of course, but he didn’t really answer the question there.

he decided against it

for some reason. Probably “It’s Sori’s first day back, I need to play him.” If Reed is so crappy, and Pie can’t hit, who goes in for Sori?

Former/Current Skipper

The former would be apt to maintain the status quo and put a fuzzy spin on mistakes and boneheadedness, whereas the current actively tries to correct the team’s flaws.

It wouldn’t surprise me to see Trammell at the top of the dugout broadly indicating to the OFers where they should be playing each batter, and Lieber to start seeing more action in the 8th and 9th.

I guarantee we will see more of Lieber in the 7 & 8th, Marmol in the 9th.
I don't think Lou will over react to this loss

like most fans will do. Wood needs to stop putting the first man on. Those of you who want to limit Marmol to the ninth inning have to agree that this game would have been blown alot sooner if Howry or Wood had to come in earlier with first and third.

Confessions Of A "Troll"

I suppose I’m considered one, so let me just explain that the reason I don’t post when they win is because I feel they’re supposed to. Sort of like end zone celebrations – I don’t like them because scoring is what the player is supposed to do as a matter of course, unless the guy is a total scrub.

But the Cubs aren’t scrubs. They have talent. I’m happy when they win, but I don’t overtly praise and cheer them because, with the talent they’ve assembled, winning on a regular basis should be expected. Especially when you’re up 3-1 at home going into the ninth. So when they underachieve as they did today, I’m going to be upset and blow off steam.

Not sure you all understand, and I’m not sure it matters whether you do or not, but I’m just giving you an inside look into how I roll.

Make sense

no sarcasm

no need to explain yourself for blowing off some steam

by the way Lou swore about the game at the press conference, does that make him a “troll”?

It's fun

for me to be in here and share good plays and awful plays with the people who post here. We can’t be at the games to cheer in person so we do it here. We do get upset when they make horrible plays but it’s not the end of the world like some believe it is. Some of the stuff said repeatedly is what bothers me. Saying it over and over does not change anything. If they said it once and moved on that would be fine.

they didn't underachieve!

They gutted all those runs out. The save was BLOWN. They didn’t stink up the place for nine innings, Woody BLEW THE SAVE.

It sucks. But it’s not like they weren’t trying.

welp,

that sucked. sure hope we can recover tomorrow.

Same Here.

When they are winning there is not much to fix. When they lose as they did today with glaring problems it helps to let off steam.

Soriano, You Suck!

Not normally someone who will rant but….. Mr. Soriano you are not a good baseball player. You are not a good hitter, yes you get into good streaks but when the team needs a solid at bat you are not the guy to call on. You are not a good fielder even though you seem to have the speed and throwing arm to actually be adequate, and maybe even a plus fielder. You should not be hitting lead off nor should you be playing late in games, you have become a role player for a very good team. No, you are not the only one to blame for this loss, Lou should have put Reed Johnson in left to replace you. Kerry should not have hit the lead off man or given up a line drive triple. Kosuke might have been playing a little shallow. With all that said, did you see the catch that Reed Johnson made last week?

Looks like tough game

Was Dome solid again?

He went 4-4 but...

He was playing a little shallow for the situation and let a ball get over his head in the ninth, letting the winning run score. His play was in no way the determining factor in this loss, Wood and Soriano are the culprits.

I hate it when people pin the loss on a lone individual.....

IT’S A TEAM EFFORT!

The Cubs AS A TEAM lost the game.

Since the Cubs were behind in the 9th inning mind as well be Cedeno's fault for not stealing 2nd base, third base, and home plate.
Did you read my post?

There were any number of people to blame for this loss, I tend to put the blame on mental errors more than say making an error on a ball that takes a bad hop. Soriano misplayed that ball, Fukudome was playing a little shallow, Wood hit the first batter he faced, all of these things happened in the 9th, sure things could have been different if they don’t send Fukudome or if he’s safe at the plate. Zambrano pitched well, Marmol pitched good enough, the offence got enough runs to have a lead against a tough pitcher, it was all set up for the last inning. Hey it didn’t go well and we’ll go get em tomorrow.

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