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Overflow Thread 2: Cubs vs. Blue Jays, Friday 6/13, 6:07 CT

Keep this winning streak going!

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Just got home from work

what’d I miss?

Gallagher pitched decent, not great. Gave up homers to Stairs and Rolen. Edmonds with a couple hits, just missed a homer, 1 RBI. EPat drove in the other run.

Thx for the quickie
Rios = pain in the arse
Bats and pitching in

here?

what does that mean?
I wanna see some
I hate

Alex Rios.

Funny

Patterson played this whole year at 2B but he’s been brought up to play a little in LF

Yeah.

We lose our left fielder and the Cubs call up a second baseman and a first baseman. Rather inscrutable.

lol.

I see your point, cwyers. But I thought you liked Patterson not too long ago? I remember me and you being on the same page with him.. maybe I’m wrong though.

I'm probably Patterson's biggest supporter not named Josh77.

But he’s an odd choice to replace Soriano at the very least.

Well I've been a supporter of him also.

Guess that makes 3 of us. I’m trying to figure out why the Cubs don’t take a look at him at second and throw DeRosa around.

Wasn’t DeRosa supposed to be a stop-gap FOR Patterson?

Patterson hasn't been performing well enough...

...to make anyone forget Mark DeRosa, who’s having a career year. But Patterson is certainly preferable to Mike Fontenot.

I guess;

But he has had a small sample size, we shall see how he performs since Lou keeps putting him in there though.

And anyone is more preferable to Mike Fontenot.

If you can't be an athlete

be an athletic supporter

okay

eeewwww

Too young to

recognize the quote? that would be ok…just wondering!

i must be

i thought you were just being tacky. :-) i’m 23.

Grease

Great movie…..in context, the ‘tough guys’, the T-Birds, were making fun of the jocks…..it’s been 20 yrs since I’ve seen the movie so that’s all you’re getting!

oh i've seen grease

i’ve never noticed that line.

He looked pretty good throwing that guy out at home.
Iowa should play in Wrigley when the Cubs are away

Because they sure won’t be able to play in Sec Taylor/Principal Park

12-1 Phils top of 4th

Phils score 8 runs and the inning is still going on

so... whats going on?

who’s up, who’s pitching? anyone?

Teams all around the league seem to be afraid of the Cubs

This team can pitch and hit – we’re just hitting our stride AND we’ve been pretty lucky when it comes to the injury bug

dude

i know you’re new. but you’re very random. if you’re directly replying to someone hit the reply button below that post.

They should be afraid.

Along with Arizona, and Philly we are the class of not only the NL but the MLB

wuertz is pitching, Rolen at bat with Rios on 1st...
I want him to fly out to Edmonds, just for the novelty factor.
i don't

i want wuertz to keep the ball down! :-)

Double play to end the inning!!!

Let’s take the lead now.

awesome!

who’s up for us next inning?

I don't know

My radio’s getting a bad signal. I’m gonna leave to go to my TV now.

13-1 Phils top of 4th

2 outs, inning still going!

4th?

JEEBUS. those philly bats have awoken i guess.

Phillies

They were going to break out of the slump one way or the other. IMOP, they are the Cubs real competition.

13-1 Phils.

Still batting w/ 2 out in the 4th.

holy crap.....
Bases loaded with Howard up
Hey Scrapptastic

Does your name have to do with Scrapple? I can’t eat that stuff

No....but I've seen that stuff on Diners, Drive-In's and Dives

Looks disgusting.

Soto, Edmonds, DeRo up this inning
thanks!
come on Soto!!!!
single!
Lets play small ball

Or what Sox fans like to call it…”Ozzie ball.”

way to go Soto!!!!
marquis pr?
Is Marquis

really faster than Geo?

If he is,

it’s not by much, IMO.

Weird move

Why now?! Soto might be needed later on.

$21million

Pinch runner

has anyone mentioned...

who Senor Douchetastic is behind the plate with no sleeves & shades?

in a closed

stadium

okay

i need someone to do some pxp. please? wrigley left and nsiders at work. help the blindie out! ;)

I'm trying, but following on MLB
ok

ill do it

I'll try but we are getting lightning so radio is crackly
go for it rudey
The Phillies 9 running inning finallly ends with a Howard Strikeout

phillies up 13-1

This week's SI had

Ryan Howard as like ‘3rd or 4th’ on a list of people MLB’ers would ‘build a team around’ in their “players poll”. WTF?

Damn

This is where I miss Ward.

We had Scott Downs

He was a Cubs prospect until he got traded. Nowadays he’s a serviceable lefty out of the pen like Eyre.

Dude

Please stop

Why is everyone jumping all over this guy?

That was a legit comment about the pitcher in the game

So, Marquis pinch-runs for Soto, and then Blanco pinch-hits for Edmonds.

Okay then.

Odd move

Did Edmonds get injured?

Nvm

Goign to bring in Johnson.

Lou sometimes tends to overmanage
2-2 count to Blanco

fouled off

BLANCO ph for Edmonds

???

Well, if you're pulling Soto, Blanco needs to go in at some point.

And Downs is a lefty. So it makes SOME kind of sense.

Blanco

.500 against Downs..

another 2-2 foul ball
Aww, cute

baby with Cubs gear on.

Blanco strikeouts swinging.

1 out, marquis still on 1st.

question

the moves by lou

You can question the moves

but you can’t usually question the results. Blanco was in because he had a good record vs Downs.

thanks rudey!
Piniella has a very short leash on Edmond

When it comes to lefthanders – that’s part of why Edmond’s’
average keeps going up

Why no bunt??
Blanco strikes out

why not Johnson there or Cedeno?

Because if you use Cedeno you're burning three bench players for one play.

You’re already comitting to using Blanco and Johnson when you pull Soto and Edmonds.

Um, okay, let me rephrase that...

...why not Johnson there? LOL.

1-1 count on dero. Trys to pull the bat back but gets the swinging strike.
Who's gonna be the hero

Either you’re a hero or you’re a bum

2-2 count on Dero
If

Patterson bats, expect him to be replaced by Reed.

Then who will play CF?

Cedeno?

Who plays left field, then?
Um.

Reed Johnson.

nevermind

my bad.

Okay, then who plays center?

Edmonds is out of the game.

3-2 count on a VERY CLOSE ball on the outside corner!
c'mon dero!
Derosa goes down on strikes, looking

:(

Jaysus

Just missed. Here comes Uncle Charley again

Nice effort
damn

is that out 2?

Cedeno PH
First rule of baseball.

You should never have a left fielder who you’re willing to PH for with RONNY CEDENO.

DeRo isn't on top of his game right now
he's just having a bad game

don’t worry. he’ll be fine.

Ive been doing very good on my protein/workout GOD

plz dont let the cubs lose and make me eat those cookies!

Ok

This is weird. Then Cedeno plays LF?!

Dero goes to LF??
DeRo LF, Cedeno 2b
1-2 count on

Cedeno

It occurs to me...

...that you put Cedeno at second and DeRosa in left.

yeah

thats the move I think Lou is pulling off.

lou is having way too much fun with this game

i think

Damn!

MLB Extra Innings just died!

2-2 count on cedeno hopefully Onedec*
Lou

over managing this whole game.

Yep.

As often as he gets the chance.

not really

the only reason why he bought in blanco is because he was hitting 500 against him.

Which is essentially meaningless.
It is.

I don’t understand it. I just don’t.

The reason

I said Reed would pinch hit, is because Lou often does things like this. Matchups are over-rated sometimes.

Cedeno hits an extremely high chopper off the plate and is out at 1st, inning over.
dammit

so whats the sub situation? derosa in left, blanco behind the plate, who else?

Cedeno to 2nd
most likely
Cedeno to 2nd, Johnson to CF
blanco to catch
Cedeno at second, Johnson in center.

I’m guessing here.

jeez

is there anyone left on the bench??

Fontenot and RJ
well nevermind then
Trammel

and Rothchild

ground out to first
Sigh...... need a ninth inning rally now
You ask

and you shall recieve!

starts the ninth inning rally prayers
Too many missed opportunities
WOW

ronny in center!
Fontenot at 2nd
Blanco catching

are you kidding me?
nope!
wow

thats all kinds of crazy

So Reed PH's for Hoff in the 9th

I hope we don’t go extras….that would mean DeRo to 1B, Johnson to Left

If Lou's willing to PH for Hoffpauir with Reed Freaking Johnson...

...then what the hell is the point of having him on the team?

Lou loves the lefties
That's interesting.
Well, hold em

here and the score 2 runs when we are up.

Well........

I have been sitting here thinking about what just happened. I figure that he is saving Reed Johnson to bat in Hoffpauir space in the 9th.

Yep...

....good move there, but that empties the bench if we go extras.

Would be sweet...

to have RJ tie it or put us ahead…

Twins are up 9-0 over the Brewers in the 7th
I'm really down on Lee right now

but he can redeem himself with a homerun in the 9th

I've got the "We'll be right back!" screen on INDemand

Now it’s back, bastards!

gotta love technology.....
Wuertz is out

missed who was coming in, sry!

Eyre
who is really funny btw

heard him on the radio yesterday.

Wish I had heard that...
it was waddle & silvy.. you can dl the podcast

espnradio100.com i think. :-)

Oh cool...

thx for the info…i will do just that..

What.

The. Freaking. Hell. Lou.

how many haven't played tonight.. 1 or 2?
1.

Reed Johnson is the only one left.

Well, it's a good thing that in the NL you don't have to have ten players in the game at a time.

Oh.

Wait.

Theriot's DP in the 6th a real downer.

Wuertz falling behind is, too.

After the single Wuertz is out

pitched pretty well so far.

Eyre in!

Keeping that 0.00Era im sure

Derosa in left

Cedeno in Center
Fontenot at 2nd
Blanco catching

In case anyone got lost!

cedeno? cf?

really?

yup first time ever!
He's played there before...

in ST at least…

Eyre, Wuertz, Ohman...

It’s all the same shit

What the hell

are you talking about?

Hey earmus

we don’t talk like that ‘round these parts.

Get this guy Eyre you SOB!
on Overbay
This isn't looking good
c'mon stevie

throw strikes, dammit!

Overbay pops up to derosa in left field :p
so, one out runner on first?
he just stole second
Barajas up

Wells steals second cause of eyre, blanco had no chance

count 1-0, 1 out

Wells stole that one on Eyre

Blanco didn’t have a Chinaman’s chance

dude. really?
Eyre

Not exactly an Andy Petit move to first.

2-0

man on 2nd

1 out

Throw Strikes!!!!!
+10000
TOWERING POP UP

BIG catch by theriot right near the side wall!

2 out man on 2nd

Aramis

looks stunned theriot stole that from right in front of him.

thank god

good job riot!!

In other news...

...Carpenter has shoulder discomfort and is being seen by the team doctor.

didn't he just get back from shoulder surgery?
Not ours I hope..
do we have a carpenter?
We drafted a guy named Chris Carpenter.

No relation.

A co-worker of mine

wears a pin that says “my father is a carpenter”

good job Theriot!
That play could loom large
Nothing against Carpenter

But I’m not saddened by this news. I AM surprised that the Cards have hung in there against thte Cubs.

hit the reply button beneath the post you're talking too.

otherwise it gets lost in the shuffle.

One more Scott!!!!

Wilkerson up

2-2, 2 out
3 out, called out on strikes

beauty pitch painting the outside corner.

YAY Scottie!!~
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
K!!!! come on Cubbies... 9th inning rally time!
Good job Stevie Ire!!
Okay, boys, let's get a couple!!!!

Top of the order up

theriot, hoff and lee right?

the top of the orde tongiht?>

Si
johnson is ph for hoff
thanks

got confused. it feels weird.

Rudey, thanks so much

you’ve been a godsend!!

np
I suck at it

but i am trying!

No you don't.

You’ve done a great job.

you're doing fabulous.

:-)

Where is northsider with the all too easy

TWSS?

working
on a friday night.

that’s not a good job.

Here comes BJ Ryan
We need two runs.

That’s it just 2…2 little runs….you guys can do this.

Reed Johnson is on deck

PH for Hoff

Again.

If you’re willing to pinch hit for Hoffpauir then you shouldn’t have Hoffpauir.

Theriot up

0-1

0-2 on theriot
Theriot strikes out swinging

1 out :(

come on Johnson!!!
Doesn't look good

Ryan is dealing.

What can ya say

He’s an all-star closer. He was sick with the O’s.

Reed

gets standing O

Reed johnson

makes his RE-Debut in toronto

PH for hoff

(standing o!)

Standing O for Reed
thats nice!

he came up w/ the jays if i remember right. glad they were good about it.

Okay.

we need a baserunner! johnson: get your ass on base!!

First pitch out

groundout to 2nd

2 outs

Nice ovation for Reed
$#@^@%@%%#^#%1!
ground out....damn
come on Derek!
3-0 to D-lee
Aramis 2 run homer

ANYONE?!

D-lee needs to walk first….

i could so live with that
I'll take it...
I just said to my

husband a walk off hr for Aramis.

Can't be a walk off on the road
oops
But I like the way you think....
Okay Lee

show us why you’re a #3 hitter!

3-2 to D.LEE 2 outs
D.Lee

walks!

Aramis up

with Lee on first. 2 outs

Come on Aramis!!!!
0-1

Aramis swings for the fences.

question

with woody pitching 2 innings yesterday is he even available today?

don't think so...
1-2

another homerun swing

I wouldn't

have anyone else at the plate right now.

me neither

gotta love rami!

Aramis pops out

in foul ground…

Game over :(

Cubs lose :(
The Blue Jays beat the best team in baseball

per the BJ’s announcers

Well crap!

Get em tomorrow I guess.

So much for that
darn.........
Oh well

At elast the Cards are about to lose.

Can't win em all
3-2

we need some bats seeing as we plan on doing this whole thing with bats. Otherwise…we need to trade for another starter.

Giving up 3 isn't exactly a travesty
Yep I wouldn't

say that Gallager got pounded

Not trying

to be negative nancy. Just calling it as ( I )see it.

Sorry - came out way more sarcastic than intended

I get tired of all the ‘our pitching sucks’ on this board.

Not saying that

one of the best in the NL

But i want a WS team! Playoffs are won with pitching.

We lead the NL in ERA
the blue jays have a great pitching staff

but another starter would be great. although it is really nice to see gallagher progress. how deep did he go tonihgt?

bout 5 innings I think

...

Not used to losing!

lol.

Boo.

Okay well. That sucks. But we’ll get ‘em tomorrow.

Thanks again Rudey.

np

get’em tommorow guys

To bad Ill be working…

MArquis vs. Halladay..

God we need to be huge..

I'll say it again

too many missed opportunities

What sucks even more

We are facing their best pitcher.

Well, tommorow
And we have Marquis
If he pitches..

like he did last time out, I’ll be happy..

17 LOB

yuck

Brutal

Our offense needs to wake-up in a hurry

no. 11
no 19

I stand corrected…19. Look up in yahoo.

no again. 11 with two out

19 would be 2/inning with one with the bases loaded. that is NOT what happened

then yahoo is messed up

Lol.

17 would be almost 2 per inning

the ESPN box considers LOB with less than 2 out. The total with 2 out was 11.

Oh OK

Then that is also correct.

still bad, though

the 6th inning was what did it.

Milwaukee down 9-2
10-2 now

I am watching it on EI… at least that is something

We need

our leader to step up, D-Lee. Our offense is Jim Edmonds or bust lately.

I never thought I would ever say that.

Lee needs to snap out of his funk.

but i wouldn’t say “edmonds or nothing” we scored 7 the other day with mroe than him. stop being so gloomy! :-)

I was going

by the last 2 days. lol.

D-Lee is killing us in the 3 hole

What’s it going to take to make a change?

alot more

cause hes there to stay for quite some time.

with good reason!

Huh...

You’re kidding right?

Philly still beatin the dirty birds 14-1
well, at least no ground lost today.. thats a big plus
I want to be the first to say that we lost this game in the 1st.

All Hoffpauir has to do in the 2 hole is move Theriot over. That is it. He was overmatched all night, and I am assuming that he will see the field again only as a pinch hitter. That is it. Certainly not hitting second. He made contact with the ball 1 time on a foul ball.

Lou did a poor job tonight. I love him like my drunk uncle, but bad. More than willing to empty the bench tonight, except when Soto was the tying run and cannot score on a soft single.

Well, he's not perfect

He will make mistakes, just like any other manager.

Yeah

I don’t see all the fasination with Hoffpauir. He is a AAA all-star .. at best.

Exactly

That’s why Lou pinch hit Reed Johnson for him. They thought he would be effective, but they thought wrong.

it was ONE GAME

against a good pitching team. Seriously. Guys. My gosh. You can look bad with one at bat without being writen off.

Yeah, but Hoffpauir's only real accomplishment...

...so far was his hitting in spring training this year. He’s been very underwhelming as a hitter in the minors for a first baseman.

he hit fine in houston

earlier this season. i’m not saying he’s an allstar or anything, but you can’t base everything a guy is off of one game.

I don't think judging a guy off of three games is an improvement...

...over judging him off of one game. The totality of Micah Hoffpauir’s career is essentially a guy that isn’t really good at anything having to do with baseball – hitting, fielding or baserunning. He plays only one defensive position, the easiest around. He’s not actually a GOOD hitter, at least so far as his minor league numbers would indicate.

If you need a guy to hit for about the league average and play first base, then sure, Hoffpauir’s your guy. I’m just not sure that any team, much less ours, really needs that.

So dont judge him yet!?!??!?
Why not judge him yet?

I’m just one guy on the Internet with opinions. I have years of minor league stats and a robust set of minor league park factors and translations to work with. I don’t see what the problem is with looking at the factual record and drawing conclusions from it is.

hehe

i dont think hes good yet

But from your reply it seemed as if you were syaing it doesnt make sense to judge someone off 1 game or 3 games, hence “why judge him”

He meant judge him on his body of work...

His minor league track record is more telling than a handful of MLB games.

Agreed..

I wouldn’t think he wil be here after interleague play, but ya never know with Lou..

you never know

just give him more than one game.

He's got at least 2 more weeks...

and should get a lot of AB’s against RH pitching..

Im talking about today

He was overmatched by the Jays pitching.

lou looks like he's testing things out

He knows that the offense is struggling and, with Soriano out, he’s not sure what he has right now. I hope to god we’ve seen the last of Hoffpauir as a #2 hitter.

And you’re exactly right about the first inning. I had a very bad feeling when Burnett got out of it without giving up a run-pitchers tend to settle down after shaky first innings.

Philly 17-1
That made me smile to see that score tonight.
Cards coming back...

17-2 now…:)

K

im off!

I wanna see some big runs tommorow against Halladay!

(wishful thinking)

Bye!

we’ll cheer extra hard without you!

Okay

I know we lost. But we lost to a decent team on the road with our rookie pitcher on the mound. Stop it everyone. Its one game, and we’ll get ‘em tomorrow. Please?

exactly and we lost n ground either...
Their pitching is sick

But their hitting sucks. Let’s get their ace tomorrow.

their offense isn't great

you’re right. we need to play well tomorrow.

One-run games

What’s our record this year?

I dunno.

better than it was at this time last year.

11-9
Not too bad...

I’ll take it.

We have a great record

and that gives Lou a chance to check out guys like Hoff and EPat and see what they can do before things get tight.

Game

My thoughts…. Couple opportunities where i wished Sori was in there, but thats something the cubs are going to have to deal with for the next 4-6 weeks….

We'll be fine...

...once again, we were in the game until the very end. Had opportunities, need to take advantage of them the rest of the weekend.

EXACTLY

finally someone else who doesn’t feel the need to lose their mind over one game.

Must be the Purdue background...

lol

Hey know, don't be knocking us Boilermakers!!
No Knock

I bleed old gold and black! How did you take it as a knock?

When you leave 11 guys on base

you can’t expect to win. Someone has to step up and pick up those runners. That’s why we lost tonight, not because of pitching and not because of what Lou did in the 8th. DLee is killing us in the 3 spot is another problem.

?

did Anyone else want to see edmonds bat in the 8th besides me?

wasn't a lefty in for Toronto?

Edmonds is horrible against lefties

Okay I'm off

See you guys tomorrow. maybe all of you won’t be so gloomy! :-) Night.

G'nigt cubbiegirl
Gloomy?

Who’s gloomy? How could you be gloomy? I’m normally the gloomy type, but tonight all you can be is disappointed. This is still baseball. The best team will lose many, many games. We are still the best team right now. Let’s knock out a good pitcher tomorrow.

You win some you lose some

The object is to win more than anyone else and to be the last team standing at the end of the year.

+1

As is often said here, it’s a marathon, not a sprint..

We're just so used to losing

that we expect that even though we’re doing great that the end is near.

OT

Tiger Woods shoots 30 on the front nine…1 off the lead.

Yankees/Astros

Yanks leading 2-1 in 9th, Farnsworth is their closer tonight!

Message to D Lee: Pick it up, you have done nothing lately

This team needs your bat to step up

nuts

and philly did us a huge favor by laying the smack down on the retardinals

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