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Overflow Thread 2: Cubs vs. White Sox, Sunday 6/29, 7:05 CT

I mean, we REALLY need this game!

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Lets go Cubs

time for a ninth inning rally….

Notice the Cubs are outhitting the white soc, 6 to 5?
These games are unpleasant to watch

makes my blood pressure rise.

this team is really pissing me off
7th?
Just make sure you keep your double posts to yourself in this thread...

lol

how many did I have in the last one?

” looking confused”

I only saw it once... but everytime i punched "Z" i went back to it..
Me too..

It was strange

umm Im sorry I guess
didn't happen to me

they’re just crazy. you’re fine madison. :-)

They're not crazy

It happened to me, and I’m perfectly sa…

Well, never mind that, but it did happen to me

When that happens, hit F5 to refresh the page.

The issue clears up.

thanks

it wasn’t that big a deal… but it was sort of annoying.

why can the cardinals win

regardless of who they have out there, and we can’t win when a few players are injured.

That's a great question

I wish I knew the answer

it's a rough patch; nothing more

all teams have them. STL will too

hopefully we can give them a rough patch

next week when we play them…

sounds good to me
Decent farm system and uncanny ability to make nobodies productive?
Right

where does this uncanny ability come from? Can we buy it somewhere?

Maybe we can trade Marquis for it lol
roids
Not a chance. He's just a good hitter.

He had a solid college and minor league career, and now it’s paying off.

well ankiel and glaus are actually two people who were caught
Proving what about Carlos Quentin?
we are talking about the cardinals right?
Gah.

Wrong thread. Damn beer.

True

Funny how no one brings that up when they’re talking about Ankiel’s GREAT STORY

You mean like that 2-4 record they posted

against the Royals this season? Or losing two out of three to the Tigers?

The Cardinals have won one more game than the Cubs in this stretch. One.

Do some research before you post, please.

Well, the twins and A's both traded their aces in the offseason....

and both are doing better with them. Go figure!

can we please just end interleague play NOW
in about an inning
How many

double plays have we hit into in the last 10 games?

I’d guess aroudn 18

Man, that guy can hit.
(^(*&^^$^%#&^%%*(&*)*)(*_)(*

That is all

nevermind
alright..this game is now unofficially over
It's never over, til its over
Alright..

I’ve seen enough tonight.. Any chance we probably didn’t have is now gone. I’m crashing. Night all. We’ll just have to start a win streak tomorrow

At least we know they won't tease us in the 9th
This game is no fun
I agree. IMO the least fun one of the season
you weren't at Thursday's game....
true. I was cleaning that afternoon
2nd guess...

cotts there? or was the kid looking decent enough to leave in?

ascanio is good

this team just hits homers.

No, he was looking decent enough to leave in.
fair enough

was questioning the LHP/RHP thing there, but if the kid was looking good thru first 2 outs, don’t have problem with it

The National League can't come fast enough
in a week were they should have swept both Baltimore and the White Sox

they will only win one….pathetic..

Who was saying that?

I said if the Cubs went 3-3 against the Sox this season, I’d be ecstatic. (Of course, you always want more after you sweep, but …)

i'm not asking you

but they should have swept baltimore with those matchups and hell at least won ONE in this series..

Well, I'm answering you

The Cubs probably should have won one more game against Baltimore and one of the three vs. the White Sox. Anybody who was saying they should have swept both series is crazy.

well 4-2 would have been logical

maybe 6-0 was a stretch, but to go 1-5 against the Orioles and White Sox?

"Anybody who was saying they should have swept both series is crazy"

Agreed.

no name calling..... Al will otherwise but you both in a time out :)
I wasn't calling him a name

But 6-0 against these teams is crazy. 3-3 would have been more realistic.

But even the Cardinals had, what, two eight-game losing streaks when they won the World Series? Enough.

People tend to discount the Os, who are a decent team (41-39)

But are in the NL East

Absolutely correct

They might be one of the biggest surprises in baseball this season.

The A's are up there too

but yeah the O’s are very surprising.

Actually I think TB is the surprise team of the year
I think a lot of people thought TB would be better

but not quite this good.

I actually saw them play LAA in Tampa this year

They’re good, and could be for a few years. I like them. Just not when they’re playing the Cubs.

Their pitching staff is unreal

And they’ve got some nice young position players, too. I like ‘em.

And people don't realize they were tearing it up early

Despite not having Kazmir

they're a great defensive team

and very athletic. they’re going to be good for a while.

this year in baseball is crazy

Teams like the Indians, Mariners, Tigers, and Yankees underachieving, while teams such as the Orioles, Cardinals, Marlins, and Twins overachieve..

Don't forget the Mets

Underachievers as well.

The Royals and Twins have the best record during interleague play

I couldnt believe that

I might believe the Twins

KC? No way.

Appearance by certain posters in 3...2...1...
pretty close

:sigh: predictable.

Carlos Quentin is just plain good.
he is plain..OK
He is. And Thome murdered that ball.
and by the way it was Thome..what the heck are you watching?
I'm drunk. And I really like Carlos Quentin.
+1

on being drunk. good game for it.

argh

another craptastic job by the bullpen
He looked good. Cotts in hindsite.
I didn't catch the first couple innings

what happened with Lou getting kicked out?

He argued ball/strike calls in the 2nd.

And he had damn good reason. The home plate ump tonight made yesterday’s ump look fabulous.

Cool, thanks

Was he pretty heated?

Actually, he started out, and turned around....

and, as he turned around to go back to the dugout, the ump ran him out. It like the ump really didn’t know wtf he was doing.

It was actually a full checked swing

...if you know what I mean. Lou had every right to argue as it was strike 3.

The home plate ump tonight made Angel Hernandez look fabulous
Urgh

thats bad. i didn’t think we’d be going there.

yay for broken tv!

He was arguing a few bad calls. Maybe he also wanted to light a fire under the team.
Doesn't look like it worked
Actually, if memory serves me

Cubs lost the game that Lou got ejected from last year, then reeled off the best record in baseball for a while

It doesn’t always work right away

That's true

For some reason I thought they won last year’s tirade game.

I was hoping we could face the best bullpen EVER, EVER

down only two runs. Oh well…

Let’s get this inning over with. :-(

Too bad the Sox bullpen

doesn’t even have the lowest ERA in baseball THIS YEAR

Not a knock at you LAcarl

toward the guy who said that.

I knew that. I was only quoting

Joe Moron.

Those are NUMBERS

Joe Morgan doesn’t go by NUMBERS

He just uses his uncanny ability

to pull crap out of his ass

I have that ability about once a day myself...
Booo...this slump...cause that is what this is
I'm not even watching OR listening to this game...

...and I’m glad…I’m pissed off enough following online….WTF?

Pull Ascanio for chrissakes

before we have NO chance of winning

Finally

I was going to say wake me when the Cubs pitch inside instead of letting these mashers hang out over the plate all series and swing from their heals. Of course it wasn’t good enough but someone, Swisher, anyone, needed one in the ribs with some hair on it.

seriously kid just pitch a damn strike

you already blown any chance for us in this game

Avoid all local media! The sky will be declared officially falling...
Boy...is...Wuertz...slow
More classy white sox music
Yeah, they

made sure everyone got to hear it too.

Now, why didn't they let us hear the Cubs fans sing last week?

Assholes.

Thanks Jon Miller! It’s because they have absolutely no class, and run by an idiot Reinsdorf.

meh its ok...

white sox won a WS in 05 and nobody cares, so no harm done

I care

cause we need to fuckign win one…

I like Wuertz

but I don’t know why anyone swings at his stuff… its too low for a strike, always.

I just wish he didn't take 30 seconds

between every pitch. It is painful to watch a game when he comes in.

I don’t know how the defense stays awake when he is in.

Has anyone seen the 2008 Cubs

Who replaced them with the early 90’s

finallytheinningendscansomeoneshootmenowplzthankyou
How about

a 9 run ninth?

That won't happen. The best closer of all time is coming in.
I'd love

to see Jenks get lit up.

And then drown his sorrows in 20 double bacon cheeseburgers
Heck, that's a snack for him
Ha! I thought Swisher swished another HR. The bat sound is loud on this telecast...
The story of this series....

is the Cubs’ inability to hit with men in scoring position. Like yesterday, this game was very winnable.

Yes, that is quite true.

Even though some of the chances were with 2 out, need to cash in sometimes.

Too true.

A complete lack of timely hitting in this series. But, to give some props to the Sox, Dye and Crede have made some great defensive plays to keep the Cubs from scoring.

And they have hit the ball pretty well also.
Yes, they have.

The Sox have hit the hell out of the ball.

Okay. Stranger things can happen

Leads this large have been blow. I know, b/c the Cubs have blown them ;)

God help us, Viva Viagara.

Have to hear the Sox fans sing, and now this!

Oh, the agony!

with lou being kicked out does he give a post game or nto?
yeah, probably
unless he's too pissed off
He can.

Who knows if he will.

I would think not...but not b/c he got kicked out
It'd be cool if he said something that got him fined.

It would be accurate (ie, the umps sucked donkey scrotum, as mentioned by someone earlier tongiht).

Maybe Al will fine me for saying that.
I'll chip in just because it's kinda funny
I'll appeal. It'll drag on all season, and never be resolved,

kinda like Matt Kemp and Coco Crisp’s suspensions.

Marshall pitched well

at least we did not waste Zambrano – on this 1 output effort.

Need base runners...that's a start
I just don't want to be teased in the 9th and come up short. I might need a drink.
Back. Good eye, Geo.
deRo looking bad - down 0-2
soto was down 0-2 and walked

have faith

faith

i’m a cub fan …and still watching. faith is what i am all about.

Does anyone know what kind of streak DeRosa's in?

It seems he hasn’t been hitting well lately, but I’ll get attacked if I make an uneducated, false claim.

He got a crucial RBI hit yesterday.
hitting .256 this month, 20 hits, 17 singles and 3 HRs
Like I said, just seemed like...

he’s been struggling lately. I wasn’t able to watch yesterday, but I was wrong nevertheless.

ha!

knock his mask off!

Yes!

Did you see the Punk get nailed?

Who is the f'in idiot in full green behind the plate?

The towel boy??

Maybe it's Mike North.
been watching him all nite

he thinks it is the WS

You're just now catching up on that?
Nope tuff guy just caught the end of the game on tv! You?
Trying to be a little light-hearted there. Sorry if it came off jackass-like.
Captain Douche Bag
that guy's been pissing me off too

looks like tourettes maybe..

lets atleast make this interesting
we're trying...!

let’s go boys, ride this momentum into San Fran, if nothin else.

Great job, DeRo!

bells ringing for AJ on that foul tip

Now get on base!!!

Double De Ro !!!
Good AB by DeRosa so far. YES! Double!
double for DeRo
maybe....just maybe...
YES!!!!!! DeRO!!!!!!

My Hero!!! Jimmy, it’s all you!

this would be so much more awesome if we were still down 2
J-Ed!!

Lets go, buddy!

DAMMIT!
No, he was back!!!!!
Maybe not

but it was close

And the sucky luck continues
bullshit call
Unfortunately that call at 2nd was a good call....barely....

Go get em’ in San Fran!!!!!

if i see one more DP

I’m going to puke.

well you wont
I'll be thrilled to see at least one more double play tonight
would mean at least a tie
I repeat....

as I said earlier tonight, I learned in Little League to let a line drive get through the infield.

2nd time this week for Derosa.
Alou esque
FUCKIGN KIDDING ME...
The Sox defense must be admired, and hated.
Great IF defense on the south side, for sure.
Absolutely unbelievable.
If the 1B ump was a horse,

they would shoot him.

just horrible play by this team this weekend
this is not the same team we saw last weekend play..
I agree Master Yoda.
If anything else were to go the Sox way there would be an FBI investigation....
The Cubs have hit some balls this series that were well hit.....

but right at someone.

good call by the ump
The sun shines on a dog's ass soemtimes.
Edmonds laced it!

no luck this weekend.

Yep. That's it.
Yep. Geo had one of those yesterday.

I’m okay, we’re still walking, still hitting. Just frustrating not to have anything drop.

Derosa must have been hanging out with Cedeno
and they were both tutored by Alou
Of course, you mean Theriot, as he, not Cedeno,

was the only other runner to be doubled off base tonight.

Damn it

I hate the Sux

un fucking believable
Might be th e first time I've ever said this

but I can’t wait for this weekend to be over.

This stupid series will be done and we can actually play a game without “the world is ending” crapola, maybe.

Getting while the getting's good

Night all

Miller

He keeps saying they are chanting sweep – and i don’t hear a thing

Great Series Cubbies!

Way to play..

what a joke, boys

get em tomorrow

THANK GOD INTERLEAGUE IS OVER
Yep thank God for same favors
Let's go get them in San Fran.

sigh

Tam[a Bay....

...now best in Major Leagues.

"how about that"
The good news...

is that we’ll have a full 24 hours to stew over this loss. At least we’re finally going back to the National League.

so much for my return

Sorry, peeps….

its okay, you're forgiven

it was nice to see you again! :-)

awwww. :P
hey, how's life on the left coast?

what’s the gig, anyway? I’ve been out of touch…

Not your fault.
Hey take care, and best of health to your family.
3-3 in the season series

About what I thought, but not how I though. Tip your caps. The White Sox are pretty darned good.

But so are the Cubs.

The second half of this season is gonna be a lot of fun, methinks.

Yep

We need to get our players back, hope nobody else get hurts…and please get back to playing fundamental baseball…no more gaffes in the outfield, no more base running blunders, right players cover the bag… etc…

A lot of people wonder why the Cardinals are winning….they are getting good enough pitching and the catch the ball and they run the bases well… Going to win more than you lose when you play like that.

Give credit to...

White Sox defense and bullpen-one of the best in baseball. Cubs swept last weekend. Nothing to be ashamed about.

Good night Joe Morgan and Jon Miller. You guys are pathetic.
On the positive side, perhaps this will scare ESPN off for a while

(fingers crossed)

I'd have sure like to see John celebrate the Cubs' sweep of the Sox

as much as he celebrated the Sox’ sweep of the Cubs.

What a tool.

I miss Bump Baily's Photo

of the win

We'll see him again soon....

and often.

Good night all. Hang in there.

We’ll be in the playoffs. The White Sux will have to struggle to get there. The Twins and Tigers are coming after them.

seems like forever since I have seen that guy....
Night everyone!

Thank god this series is over… i’ve never seen 6 games get dragged out for so long.

Night.

See ya tomorrow night.

2006 was the last time I think

I remember they went through a stint in May where they didn’t score a single run for a couple of games!

i meant the hype

not just our play during the series… just the hype of “who ya got”. its just too much.

Giants scored 11 today,

so maybe they left their bats in Oakland. Let’s try to feast on them and get healthy before we head to St Louis for the weekend. We need no less than 3 of 4 in the Bay Area.

Go Cubs!!

John Miller

was so excited about this sweep. he’s gotta hate the cubs

he had the same emtions last weekend
probably true

I think as biased fans, we notice more when things are against us or seem to be.

Sox played one hell of a series.

Hast tip tot hem. Let’s hope the Cubs can get the offense going again. Let’s go beat the Giants so Jon Miller will shut his fat mouth. Good night, all.

Jon Miller's....

..mispronunciations are nothing compared to Harry Carey, I like Miller.

NOT the version I hoped to post tonight...

but it’s how I feel (the look, not the words)

good great wonderful

they cardinals won yet again today. Seriously what is LaRussa GIVING to those players!!

He's not giving them anything.....

He’s got a young HUNGRY bunch….........though wwhy didn’t Wellenmeyer ever pitch like that 4 the Cubs???

Because Dave Duncan wasn't with the Cubs.
hitting, pitching and belief
And they catch the ball

and They have a great pitching coach…

I did mention this other day and have never spent anytime looking into it…but it seems that Cardinals have caught the back end of a team’s rotation a bunch of times. When your current pitching staff consists of a bunch of 3,4,5 guys it makes it easier to win when you are facing like talent.

Well, we'll put that theory to the test, with Zambrano, Lilly, and Dempster this coming weekend
Well it will be Marquis not Dempster...
Oops! My mistake...
They also played the Royals

who, despite their recent streak, aren’t very good. And they beat the Cardinals four out of six.

Really, during this entire bad stretch, the Cubs have lost only one game to the Cards.

Still, the Cards have a great organization, much as I hate to admit it.

Oh come on....

You don’t hate to admit it…......you DESPISE to admit it…..it maks your blood boil…and it really sucks….......

Agreed.

I feel that Jim Hendry is a good GM, in that he is aggressive and is always looking for moves to improve the major league club. That said, when you look around MLB, you see teams like Boston that have seemingly endless depth in the minors, or teams like Cincy or San Diego that are bringing up their ”#1 prospect” to the majors. The Cubs really don’t have a prospect in the organization that would receive that kind of fanfare at this point in time.

Other than Michael Brenly, of course
I really don't tink this is a great organization

Its just a bunch of overachieving players. Schumaker, Ludwick, LaRue (wtf?), and Miles are players that I GUARANTEE you thought these players wouldn’t be doing as good. Same goes with Wellemeyer, Looper, and co.

and there number 1 starter is Kyle freaking Lohse!
I was trying to be nice

but yeah, you’re right. I’d rather be in a gay porno film (not that there ’s anything wrong with that) than be a Cardinals fan.

At least you would be well paid...according to HBO and Porn 101
(mine too)

I wrote this a long time ago…somehow it never posted…

Yep

I live there and it is all rainbows, puppy dogs, and ice cream on the radio sports dial. I barf on my way into work everyday.

I feel so bad 4 you.....

:)....

Their spring training ground is bout 4 miles down the road from me…....nuff said….I feel your pain….

There's nothing better than sports talk radio in Chicago.....

During football season…...especially after the Bears just had a bad game (no dis here….I’m a huge Bear fan)....nothing like that and a cup of coffee to get ya goin on an earlly November morning…...

Wait until you hear the radio tomorrow.

The Sox fans will be vying for WS ticket giveaways and the Cub fans will be trading the whole team for CC Sabathia.

Perspective, sadly, is lacking

on WSCR and on WMVP.

If this series had ended 3-3 and each team won once at the other’s park, would the reactions be that extreme, I wonder?

I buy what your saying....

But there is also something to be said about momentum….

Momentum?

Momentum is what makes your heels come up off the ground when you try to pee with a “Harden.” It has nothing to do with this recent Cubs-Sox series.

Yea!!!!!!

gotta love freedom of speech.........

Which you know nothing about.
I might not....

but I know more about baseball than you do.

Perhaps you do.

You haven’t set the bar very high for yourself, though. I’m pretty much a baseball novice.

That's true -- you never found any World Series rings

;-)

Sadly, no, I haven't.

I should probably stop looking for them at the bottom of beer bottles.

damn. I started looking after the seventh.
*TRUCE*

please keep posting…

I picked ur screen name out of a bunch of inane comments (I make them too) earlier…...

My memories of Varsho is he was another clown on a late 70’s early 80’s Cub team with no aspiration….(not player w/ no aspiration…team w/ no aspiration)......

I’m sick and tired of the losing….and wish more fanss felt like I do.

Varsho played for the Cubs

from 1988-1990. He was supposed to be the next 3B guy, but never panned out. He’s probably most memorable for having a 4-4 or 5-5 performance against the Cubs as a member of the Pittsburgh Pirates.

I remember him as a pretty decent pinch-hitter

and being from WI, of course!

of course, the memory could be playing tricks on me

re: his pinch hitting record

I was wrong....

but you just made my point.

You had a point?
I think we're all sick of it, kc

But we’ve got to be a bit realistic about the ebbs and flows of a season, too.

+1

Can’t let it bug you too much. We should vent while it is happening - preferably rationally - and move on to the next game after the current one is over.

He knows Scotch, though
Hitting, pitching and belief.

With the first two weighted about a zillion times more than the third.

The Cards have won seven and lost nine their last sixteen games. Good Lord, what IS their secret? Oh, right, they aren’t very good.

The American League just got done destroying the National League in inter-league play. It’ll be good for the Cubs to get back to playing a kinder gentler style of ball.

Scouting

Definitely a big part of it. StL prepares as well as any team out there.

You can prepare all you want......

How well do the million$aires listen?

Pretty Loud 'n Clear

if ya asked me! Scouting would sure seem to explain why the Cards’ defense is nearly always positioned perfectly, why their pitchers can get the key outs, and why their offense is 2nd in the league in OBP.

All that said, I can’t stand ‘em. Their fan base, announcers, and manager are all obnoxious and smug.

That is probably more than 1/2 right....

BUT….it’s always easier to get eager younger lower contract people to listen than…..

My guess is some of the “big guns” comppletely ignore scouting reports and get themselves mired in avoidable slumps…...

Point Well Taken

Luckily for their sakes, Pujols hasn’t copped an attitude on LaRussa.

Though I wish he would...:)
I hope the cubs go deep in october because

1) We will all be happy !!!

2) All of the A holes like Miller in the Media will have nothing to say

Zito vs. Lilly tomorrow night

Lilly’s a fly-ball pitcher in a park that’s hard to hit HRs in, and Zito is…well, less than stellar. Hopefully, it’ll start us off to a successful week.

Let's see here

June 29, 2007
CUBS RECORD: 39-39

June 29, 2008
CUBS RECORD: 49-32

There. Now I feel better.

49-33 now..I believe
Correct. Just seeing if everyone was paying attention out there. :)

Still cheers me up though.

Yeah

but his point is still valid.

16 over right now

Need 3 – 4 in SF then the fun with the Cards begins !!!

Nice series Cubs

n/t

No, the Cubs had a bad series,

while the Sox had a great series, but it’s good to see a Sox fan go to the trouble of registering just to post this.

Everybody

Say ‘Hi’ to Joe Morgan! Thanks for joining us tonight Joe.

Hi Joe

and, yes, Ryno was better than you were.

And Joe Carter was a better broadcaster!
And Dave Otto!
Hell, Otto the Bus Driver

Why Is Magglio Driving A Bus?

Did he steal Leyland’s Marlboros?

He's on the DL...nothing else he can do
Jeff Fersero

That’s what I’ll always remember about Carter behind the mike.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God, was Fassero and awful pitcher, but I always had a smile when he came out when Carter was in the booth!

I will once again post a comment on pitching coaches...

It seems that the White Sox changed their approach to our hitters. Did we change our approach to theirs? I continue to hope that the Cubs will replace Larry Rothschild and either get Greg Maddux (if he retires this year) or get someone else.

I really think we have a sub-par link as this is the only guy left from the Dusty era (I know he worked for Lou before!). It just seems to me that the Sox changed how they pitched to us and their batters really had a good approach to our pitchers this week. It seemed that their batters knew what to expect. Maybe that has something to do with young Geo calling games behind the plate. But again, Larry needs to help him change his pattern of pitch calling (notice how Gallagher ALWAYS has trouble the second time through the order).

I love this Cub team, but I always feel like we don’t get the most out of our pitching.

But either way, let’s wipe this weekend off our faces and have a good trip to San Francisco.

Well, what a difference a week makes...

...we dismantled the Sox last week, 22 – 11, and were dismantled this week, 21 – 9. We looked downtrodden, sluggish, and in dire need of a few of Soriano’s lead-off home runs or Zambrano’s broken bats to jump start things. Last time Alfonso was hurt, we were fine, but this time it was clear we needed our starters back, and our bench players coming off the bench. I was really disappointed by our lack of patience; earlier today I posted that we were waiting for Buerhle to pitch to us, rather than waiting for the right pitch to drive. Where did our patience go? Out the window this weekend.

This might be a good jolt of reality – Lou got fired up, everyone looked like crap this weekend…maybe a good regrouping on the plane or organization of thoughts will do us good.

The Giants are a bad, bad team, and they showed it this month. They are six games back in the worst division in baseball, and this month: after losing 2/3 to the Mets, they swept 4 games from the Nationals, lost 2/3 from a bad Colorado team, lost 4/6 from Oakland, lost 2/3 from the Tigers, lost 2/3 from a bad Royals team, and took 2/3 from a bad Cleveland team. That’s 13-13 this month, granted, but only Oakland is above .500, and nearly a quarter of wins came from the Nationals, the second worst team in baseball.

Our probables are as follows:

Lilly vs Zito – a new arm slot for Zito has shown improvements, but he’s 0-7 with a 7+ ERA at home

Marquis vs Cain – a dangerous pitcher and dangerous game

Dempster vs Correla – who’s sporting nearly a 5 ERA, we can take this game

Gallagher vs Lincecum – the ace of the staff @ 9-1 with a sub 2.5 ERA

I see two low scoring games in 1 & 3, a rough, high scoring victory in game 2, and a great pitching duel in the finale. Let’s take 3/4 from these guys, and get ramped up for a fantastic showdown with the Cardinals.

Dan

Who Do The

Cards and Brewers play while the Cubs play SF?

Good match-ups...

...Brewers will be at Arizona, and they won’t throw Sheets, but will face Davis/Ownings/Johnson/Webb, which is great news for us. The Thursday game is 8-2 Parra vs 12-4 Webb.

...and the Cardinals host the Mets for four games, but will miss Santana thanks to a doubleheader on Friday that changed their rotation a bit. Cardinals are gonna take that series, IMO.

Dan

Pretty astute analysis

I’ll say Cubs take three of four. Oddly, I think they’ll beat Lincecum (after all, they did last year … :)

Not to mention that before the all-star break...

we have 4 San Fran, 3 Cards, then a 6 game home stand with the Reds and Giants. Barring that Cardinals series, we can make a good lil streak of wins here – 9-4 or 10-3, anyone? 6/7 or 5/7 Giants, 1/3 or 2/3 Cards, and a sweep of the Reds?

Dan

Arrrr matey!
You Talk Like

Mr. Crabs on Spongebob Squarepants.

How can so many of you expect to take 3 of 4?

The Cubs are NOT plying well in any aspect of the game right now. I’m hopeful they can turn it around but to expect them to all of a sudden win a series on the road while they’re still banged up sounds unrealistic.

The Giants...are...a...bad...team
So are the Orioles.
Thank you for that astute analysis, back to you, Dr. Morgan
Really?

Last time I checked, the Orioles were 3-4 games above .500. The Giants are 11 games under.

AND in one of the toughest divisions, whereas the Giants are in one of the WORST and still can't succeed...
Not Bruce was bostering your point and ....

denigrating my own….

I'll give you this, kc

If the Cubs go out there and lose three of four, I will become concerned. But I don’t think that’s going to happen.

At Worst A Split

says I.

Neither do I.....

But hate to (no acctuaally proud to say it)....I’ll be disappointed if they don’t get 3 of 4 too….

We just lost 5/6

Don’t expect any miracles

Gotta end some time, doesn't it?

This seems like the perfect time for it.

Jeez, some of you need to get a grip.

And last year...

...we took 3/4 from them at home, 2/3 on the road.

Dan

Last year was....well....

last year…...

Your arguments are so...sound and deep, Dr. Morgan!
And the Cubs are better this year

And SF might be worse.

C’mon, kc, don’t let your gloom and doom obliterate the truth.

If you argued the Giants were in the NL West.........

I might buy that one …as the Cubs have DOMINATED NL west teams this tear….

Forgot about that part

Well, there you go.

Irrelevant

What they did against the D-backs has no bearing on what happens against the Giants. The fact that the Giants are a bad team is more convincing.

I hate to agree w/ SB but he's is right in this case
Maybe you should go back to fighting with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

Was that KC Jones? Or Casey Jones? I can never remember…

Dan

Casey Jones Is Ready

watch your speed!

Trouble ahead...trouble behind.......
I'm Strongly Considering

an impromptu road trip up to SF, so I can cheer the lads onto victory.

Where you live in Cali?
City of Angels

So it would be a long impromptu road trip up the 101 or I-5. Still, I’m thinking about it….

Do the 101 and have some red on the way up......of course in moderation
And morrow bay state park has an awesome golf course........

If you have time to stop…...OK….awesome = GOOD VALUE….

Wave to us in Santa Barbara if you do...
As long as most everyone is in a gloom mood...

OT: SNL last night STUNK!!

'Taint Been The Same

since the glory days of Belushi, Aykroyd, and Bill Murray.

Some of it was funny

I feel asleep so didnt catch the thing. Carlin I thought was great. some of the skits funny. music sucked

Remember, folks

Nobody’s as bad as they look … nor as good as they look … if that makes any sense.

Every team...

...wins 60, and loses 60. What can we do with the latter third (+2)?

Dan

I'm Not As Dumb As I Look

....I’m dumber! LOL

Agree

look at the TB series. But for CM’s melt-down, those were all very good games against one of the top teams in the majors. The O’s series… not so good. This series, except for the first game, they were all good games against the 3d best home team in the ML who were additionally motivated. Teams that are tracking for mid 90s in wins don’t suck for 70 games.

Complete.....
Completely....

keyboard is funny tonight….haven’t been drinking…which usually I have been wgen I post…

Oh.....an yea.......

if Marshall wants to throw 7 and give up 3 every 5th day…..I’ll take it….

he didn't even throw 100.....
+45
Haven't ffigured owt...

TWSS yet…please clue me in…..

This isn't a TWSS, this is a +45 (Sean Marshall's uniform number) for your comment.

If you’re really asking about TWSS, it stands for That’s What She Said.

Example:

Person 1: “Oh man, he really got me good.”
Perosn 2: “That’s what she said.”

Crystal....

dat’s what I was askin

and same as last start...

his 2nd time thru the order is when he was hit….

That’s correctable….

Hope springs eternal….

Targeted advertising at its finest...

Unless we acquire sabathia or harden this season is going to end in heartbreak

Theres no way in hell we can win in october with this garbage rotation we are throwing out there right now, its pathetic. It could not be more obvious that this has the potential to be “the year” never have we had a better lineup and solid bullpen like this to win it all. We need two frontline starters in the rotation to even be considered national league favorites because what we have now is only good enough to get by for now

Pretty sure Jim Hendry knows that and is working on it...
Lets hope so
Al has reported that the Cubs are inquiring about C.C. Sabathia and have been looking at him for a while...

Let’s hope things work out.

At this point I don't really care what we have to give up for him

as long as we get him, there’s no point in waiting for the future when it is so clear that this should be the year

Damn.....

People who think like I do…..Harden ha more upside…..but not sure why posters have thought he was avaialble.

Just gotta hope oakland keeps losing and laa keep winning

cleveland has been losin enough lately, there done for the year

The other thought on that.....

(and I’m a huge purveyor of the offense)......is runs….no matter how good your offense is…are hard to come by in October…

I DO NOT like the current rotation in a “short series”.....against a LOT of teams…...I don’t like the “match up’s”...It’s like the Cubs have a “1”...but not the best “1 and a lotta 4’s…..(or 3’s)

I don’t see any shut down guys…..Z is a legit #1…....but game 1 is a 50/50 prop….....I like demp…but I’m scared he’ll be tired come fall…...so that makes Demp and Lily ” 3’s”......Marsh, Gallagher, Marquiss, Lieber, Maddux?? (et. al.) , ....5’s…...you want to throw them in a short series????

All that said…you gotta score to win….

*MORTGAGE* the future....

...dot..dot….dot…..there might not “be a future”

REVENGE IS SWEEP!

n/t

/swats at fly buzzing around the room
Where do you live?

n/t

I live at BCB, where there's this fly that doesn't really belong but just won't go away.
/goes on with life.
yawn
Yeah, right...

... yawn now when people were jumping with joy last weekend.

Kinda sucks to be swept by a team you childishly call the “Sux?”

Not really.
Nah, I call 'em the Soxies since you always call us the Cubbies.
Yeah, what a terrible ...

... name to call the Cubs. I’ll take that to heart in all my future posts here at BleedCubbieBlue.

So for a team trying for a championship, this was not the way to end interleague play. Although all these teams are contenders in their divisions, there is no reason why this team shouldn’t have gone 2 for 3 in each series. Tampa Bay isn’t that good, and the orioles are a .500 team. they just swept the sox last weekend, what the sox got all new w players in a week? I don’t think so. This was and is unexcusable. Winning teams win, no matter what, and no matter who is playing. Ask the cardinals and brewers about that. the excuse making needs to stop. This was unexcusable, poor play for a team that is now favored to go all the way.

Having said that though, it’s time to dust themselves off, move on to SF, beat the pants off them, and take 2 out of 3 in St louis before the break. After that, Johnson, Soriano and Zambrano should be back, and this team can focus on the stretch run because it’s going to go right down to the wire again.

Tampa Bay is a really good team.

And Baltimore are 2 games over .500 in a very tough division, division that Tampa Bay plays in, as well. The Sox murder people at home, and they are a good team. The Cub made crucial defensive and pitching mistakes in all three of those series, and they paid for it.

Tampa Bay isn’t that good...

Really?

Follow baseball much?

Pitching? check.

Defense? check.

Speed? check.

RSIP BA? check.

Tough competition? check.

Yeah, they have a crap-ass field to play on, but they play decent on the road too.

I agree that they should have performed better against the O’s. Pitching was atrocious for the Cubs.

T Raysq

I get a lot of the Rays games…... they have a very good team which could go all the way

Teams come to play the Rays and UNDERESTIMATE them….. they think they are the

Rays of the past…........... NO WAY

I follow baseball as much as I can…......kinda hard from kuwait you know.

Either way, on paper before the season, the rays weren’t expected to be that good. Nobody expected them to contend. So either a bunch of people underestimated them(very likely) or their due for a correction. Remember they’re still in the same division as the Red Sox and the Yankees so nothing is a gimmie for them.

However, the cubs were/are supposed to be their equal or better. They haven’t won in 100 years, lest anybody has forgotten, and this “well they were good teams and we played well against them but their in the AL and in a tough division” is crap. We should have beat them. Plain and simple. Winners win, and if the cubs want to be winners and bring a trophy back to wrigley, then they need to win, no matter who is in the opposite dugout, and no matter who is on the field. Yes, I know that the cubs won’t win all the games. But getting swept by a team, ANY team is unacceptable. and it’s happened twice now within two weeks. They need to play better. Losing sucks, and this team has had way too much of it.

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