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Overflow Thread 2: Cubs vs. Marlins, Friday 7/24, 1:20 CT

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Congrats to Jeff

on his FIRST strikeout

First

aaahh damn

Yikes

not the way to start the new thread

Rough first outing

he looks nervous

Why are we using him with a 1 run lead anyways?
who would you suggest?
Eyre
he hasn't pitched

at length at all this season.

because the bullpen is dead
Trial by fire. :^)

Welcome to the bigs, kid.

three outs

gave up the run, but several 97mph fastballs. This kid could do well for us.

He has some real good stuff

that pitchout cost him the run I think

I think BB nailed it on the head when he said..

that Lou has been wanting a power arm in the bullpen.. he might have just found it.

if the Shark can get his breaking pitches over

he will be unbelievable.

The guy clearly is rough on the edges, but he will be terrific. At this level he needs to get more than his fastball over the plate. The hitters are just too good at this level, but he sure looks impressive.

That's usually the case...

...with these fireballers. If a major league hitter is sitting on a heater, the 97 mph really doesn’t matter as much unless he is painting the corners.

I’m not watching the game, but the key always is whether he will have the command of both his pitches to keep guys honest.

I really like Len.

I hope he is here for a long time with us.

i bet dempster just LOVES the new guy.... :)

cost him a win!!!

He's fine with it...

He’s done it to a few starters when he was a closer.

:^)

Yeah. Demp’s pretty circumspect. He gets it.

demp probably does love him! somebody new to play pranks on.
His rookie hazing may be a bit more harsh now

and rightly so. I hope Demop pulls a wicked prank on him

Dempster cant say much, he blew more than one in his time at closer
Yay SPUNKY!

Could have been worse, but looked okay in his first outing

Wow, I didn't know Dustin Eglseder died.

That’s sad. RIP Dustin. Very inspiring story he had.

Yeah, he passed

last week. I was reading in the paper that Theriot kept in touch with him after he sang last year.

cmon, Sori

now is the time.

How'd Shark look out there...

Does he have potential, or Farnsworth Jr.?

Ron Santo

liked his performance.

99 is potential no matter what....
he should be back for the 8th
I think his nickname is SPUNKY

around here

Come on, hes more composed than Farnsworth
we'll see if he's spotted at Tai's till 4 tonight ;)
Too early to tell bud.

He has alot of potential, but he needs to throw his secondary pitches.

That run is on Theriot not the Shark

If he had any range or reaction time at all, that single was a ground out.

No hate on the Scrappy.

:^(

What was Samardjjjiezl;kja thinking?

He totally should have been in the position to field that.

Rameriz and Ugla combined for 4 errors in the All star game, and none in the last 2

games….bastards

Ground out Sori

Go, Scrappy, go!

Riot

singles to right. I should get a macro.

good ab by riot

A Theriot special

A single with nobody on

easy to do when soriano bats leadoff
Seriously?

soriano has missed two months of this season. didn’t affect theriot’s numbers at all

jesus

only Theriot can get ripped on for his teammate’s failure to get on in front of him

Curse him

for getting hits whether or not somebody in front of him does.

I think that's his role, isn't it?

The guy is getting on base and scoring runs at a fantastic clip. He should get a break from criticism of his offense for just a little while.

i think someone said earlier...batting average is so over-rated!
Dammit Theriot

Your not helping my tie breaker average with these hits!! /runs and hides/

Thats 2 hits for Theriot!

Did they say that he is first in multi hit games

yea

41 games

riot is so good at getting to first base

now if he can get to home without making an out….
and make outs on D. he would be great.

he is an OBP machine. he cannot do everything, although i would like to see the SB % up
oh, man.

Riot out at second when Lee hits to third.

anyone watching? was he off the bag?
he looked off to me...

but i haven’t seen a replay yet.

Hard to tell.

No conclusive replays

close

he came off but it was close to tell when

Replay

are inconclusive. However, I don’t think anyone mentioned that Theriot was never tagged on his CS earlier. Another case of the ball getting there first, which tends to happen more often than not w/ him. Oh well.

DLee needs to get it goin, he's below .360 OBP this year...
No GIDP?

Did Lee beat the relay?

there wasn't one.

Uggla was almost off the bag at second.

What's with the "on-field delay"?

What’s with the “on-field delay”?

Pinella delay
Lou and Theriot arguing that Uggla never tagged the bag.
lou was arguing
Lou came out

to argue the call at 2nd.

Lou should be happy that the Marlins didn't turn 2

At least Rami gets to hit with a man on now.

Hurricane Lou

n/t

no throw to first

come on MR Clutch!
I thought for sure Lou was gonna get tossed

That umpire has had some issues this season IIRC.

he stinks

no idea why he is up on the club let alone pitching with a one run lead. they are rushing this guy through the system like he is something special. if he didnt play football at nd he would be a middle reliever in Peoria.

Are you kidding me?
Check out his profile...

he’s not from the sunshine brigade

He's from the "never seen a radar gun brigade," apparently.
you obviously didn't see the 99 on the gun...middle reliever my ass
Ask the bartender for another "shot & a beer"
Don't you have a ball in the outfied to drop?

Oh yeah and kiss my grits seabass!

I'm sorry, but you are very wrong here.
Too early to tell either way

I think it’s too early for this guy to be up too, but its based on our needs. We are going to need to do something about our bullpen, and Jeff isn’t going to be the guy to do it… this year

wait, what?

he’s playing on a major league baseball team… because he played college football?

the Shark needs to get his breaking ball over the plate

with consistency. He will be back in Iowa to do that. But will a short stint up here do him a world of good to see that? We needed an arm here for 4-5 days until Woody is back.

“He stinks”? What are you, a deodorant salesman?

I blame Theriot for all of Lee's GIDP

If he would hit more doubles, triple or homers rather than singles, he would not be on 1st when lee batted

well he has been hitting 1st and 8th as often as 2nd, so i don't know if i buy that
Lou needs to take advantage of this and start sending Theriot on run & hits

Lee is hitting the ball on the right counts and sharp but not elevating

Dome time
huh?
I think he's saying that the Cubs need to build a dome.

Either that, or Fukudome is up.

who's batting

Dome

did he stay in the game?
apparently

he did. I didn’t realize.

He started the game.
agh

this is what happens when I let work interfere with listening to the game.

I honestly don’t remember ANY of Dome’s ABs.

He started in RF. He's 0-2 with 1 BB
So is it Shark or Spunky?
It's been Shark since his ND days.
Spunky?

With all the “TWSS” happening here I can only fear what will happen with someone nicknamed “Spunky.”

Groan

but I have to agree…...

It's Spunky... I'm pretty sure...

Shark is too Greg Normanish.

You can't change

something you didn’t start. He’s had that nick name for a long time.

Spunky is stupid

A guy that brings it at 99 should not be called Spunky.

Either Theriot or Lee

have to be moved in the order. Theriot isn’t fast enough to beat out Lee’s constant grounders.

dear god, SWL- i don't know how you keep it up....
Lee should bat 5th or 6th
I understand...

...not wanting to pitch to Ramirez, but it’s not like the remainder of the lineup will be much less dangerous.

it is when Dome swings like that

Former Cub farmhand Pinto in the game.

I hated that we gave away him and Nolasco.

FOR PIERRE!

...ugh…

JUAN PIERRE BEST PLAYER EVER?!?!??!
Why Pinto...WHY NOT

TMI Moment

I still get hot ‘n’ bothered whenever I see Mrs. Wormer in her corset and fishnets.

and florida catcher right now...Hoover
dumbest trade Hendry ever made
He gets a pass on that one for the Aramis trade...

I think that more than made up for it.

come on Dome

base hit lets go now

Base hit gets us two runs now
Wild Pitch
we need a single !!!!!
passed ball
That was sooooooooooo close
DOME

almost… just get a hit now…

Woohoo!

Dome gettin’ the patience back.

why did he not run?????

Santo is dying up there
How was that not a foul tip?
Run you idiot
He never runs on those
because it wouldn't matter anyway.
Ramirez would get berated for that...

I agree though – it rarely ever matters.

don't say that to

AJ P in the playoffs vs the Angels (IIRC)

Which is why I said rarely
Everybody wants him to screw up his legs again...

running out something that ultimately doesn’t matter anyway…

Yes, he would

Ramirez would get blasted for “doggin” it, if that were him.

ugly swing for Dome
Good effort.
He's becoming my least favorite Cub
Scratchy used to be mine
Bah!

Because everybody else has been so consistent this year.
Dude, give him some time to adjust to the looooong season over here. He’s helping us. He just needs to acclimate.

OK. I just hate that spinning hack

that he’s been taking lately. He really needed to make contact in that spot.

He looks like he's never ready for the pitch slightly inside

a pitch he should be turning on and driving. He takes those pitches and is almost exclusively looking to go the other way, IMO.

In The Offseason

I would love to see Gerald Perry refine Dome’s Bail ‘n’ Flail approach at the plate.

Time for more Shark.

Cubs will have to get him his first win today.

Ugggh

This could be ugly…

honest opinion on Dome...

he is good but i think he has been way over rated this season. he has tired out lately and to being that player in the beginging of the season

He doesn't hit that opening day homer

We would treat him like a lot of peple treat Soriano

Let's Get Another OF At the Deadline

to help spell Dome.

or call up

Pie

I think Pie is insurance or trade bait

this is a team that is built to win now….not 2 years from now and anyone coming up must be a ROY candidate or find a role to contribute like Fonty…

the thing is who do you send down Fonty, Cedeno?

What you want is another DeRosa

Hard to read, that was.
sorry thought it in my head and didnt type

he has been no where near the player he was in the begining of the season

He's exhausted.

He’s not used to the travel; Japan is the size of Indiana.

He needs to be platooned.

I think he was overrated before the season...

and the first month only added fuel to the fire.

That said, I still think he’s a very solid player. Probably overpaid, but the expectations were probably too high.

I think he needs this year to adjust

and he will play up to his ability next year

I think so too.

He’s had to make some huge adjustments so far this season.

Ditto

lots of travel and away from home. Way WAY away from home.

The question is "what is his true ability?"

His stats in Japan appeared to be more similar to that of a ~.810-.820 OPS guy in MLB when you consider the stats of guys like the Matsuis and Ichiro. Right now, he’s at .787 OPS, so I’d expect better next year. But I wouldn’t expect a .900 OPS from him.

he's a ROOKIE.

let’s give him a year, eh?

Exactamundo drewish.
I'm more than willing to give him time..

I’m just saying that people were expecting a big power .900 OPS guy. Compared to the Matsuis and Ichiro, I thought that was unrealistic. That’s all.

I’m not dissing Fukudome. I’m not writing him off. I’m just saying that I think some people overrated him before the season expecting big power. I think that in reality he’ll wind up somewhere between what he is right now and what people thought before the season.

I don't think he was "overrated" per se

He has been playing in a different part of the world all through his life and is going through an adjustment period. Fukudome has enough baseball smarts to figure what has been going wrong with him and will only comeback strong next year.

I agree he'll be better next year...

I just don’t think he’ll be as good as many people thought before the season started (and in April).

who exactly are those "people"
I don't think the informed thought that we are getting the Japanese version of ARod to play RF
Its all good, seems like the bottom of the order is doing it all today

expect a cedeno go ahead double

Shark

throwing offspeed pitches now.

ha, 3 straight. let's work on the mixing it up a bit buddy...
Might be listening to Geo?

Seems like a good plan.

8 hits, 5 walks, and 2 solo home runs.....2 runs-= not so good with RISP
Starts him off with sliders

Nice change

Variety...

The spice of life – er – pitching.

Much better second inning

Now lets get him some runs

1-2-3

nice!!!

Awesome.

This is a huge game today simply because of this kid’s pitching future.

Shark will probably go the rest of the way...

Time to get him some runs, so he can get the win.

Way to go SPUNKY!
Is Spunky your dog?
Santo's my dog...
Who is this SPUNKY, to which you refer??
If we don't score, might as well bring him out for another, eh?
I think it's time to put the Junk Spunk in the Trunk
Good job.

He “pitched” like a top prospect in that frame.

Good job Jeff

Pitching vs. Throwing as Len remarked

He probably settled down from the adrenaline rush
Yep

You’d have to be dead not get your adrenaline pumping with the fans on their feet at Wrigley for your major league debut.

Cody Ross...

...has a funny pic on GameDay.

same in yahoo....shit eating cheesy smile?
The Shark looked very good in the 8th.

even breaking balls were over.

Does Mr “He Stinks” the deodorant salesman, want to rethink that statement?

If you're gonna go after the guy

for overreacting to one mediocre inning, you can’t use one good inning as evidence or superiority.

Or you can, whatever.

my point isn't that he is superior, I said from the beginning (above) that he is

just here for 4-5 days to get a taste of the majors and he needs to work on getting his breaking balls over consistently. But to say “he stinks” was just silly and wrong. One inning, your first in a tight game is not the full body of work in which to judge a guy.

I agree the second inning is not the full body of work either, but it is probably a better showing of his true “body of work.” But to write him off as “he stinks” based on the 7th seemed foolish to me.

Shark - The Anti-Valverde...
Soto flies out

Cedeno PH for LBR

He just missed that one...

It’d be nice to see onedec here.

Just got under that..
This game screams 14 inning struggle
That would mean Shark for another inning and Gaudin for 3. Ugh.
please, no

there’s no BULLPEN…

And a 5 or 6 inning starter is going tomorrow
I predict a game winning HR

by Alfonso Soriano. :-)

That would get my vote.
A guess hack game winner
An appearance by Onedec perhaps?
you asked for it and you got it
Wouldn't that be nice?
Ronny

base hit!

good work, Ronny
shhhh...it's 1dec
1Dec it is!!!!
Onedec hitting, better not be Cedeno running tho
Yes ..I would like to Pinch Run Ronny with 1Dec
Turning it round!
Put in Edmonds here?
Johnson is 2-2
Oh wait, Miller is a righty.
no, RJ sacrifices and PH for Samardz with Edmonds.....walk and face Soriano or pittch to Jimbo
I don't think Edmonds can play today
DeRosa might as well come into the game.
he's got his batting gloves on
Nice BH, Ronny!
Just how macho can Johnson be this week?
It's ironic

given that the ubermacho stache is gone.

stolen base, and a base hit please
Here we go Reed.

No way Shark hits if it comes to that right? Prolly be Gaudin in the 9th then I guess.

Maybe if it comes to that. Let's hope it doesn't.
I seriously doubt Lou plans on letting Samardzija hit...

...if he didn’t even plan on letting Fontenot hit.

not so sure how much hitting he did in AAA. i think they play with DH in AL games.

have no clue for AA

Lou says

he’s going to use Marmol to close, if necessary.

We're

gonna see every guy in the Marlins BP.

That only helps us if the game goes further
Marmol and Howry

are both up. o_O

Throw in Wuertz

and you got the good, the bad, and the ugly.

I'm waiting for that fantastic moment

when the sidebar EXPLODES with twenty posts announcing something awesome.

Beer prices at Wrigley tomorrow $2.00
Guess I was wrong about Edmonds
RJo...come on...
Edmonds may be pinch hitting for the shark
Now's the time, Reed.

Go, man, go!

Damn it RJ

Edmonds time!

Jimmy ball game ..time!!!
Jedmonds in for Shark
Shark tried to

walk to the plate. ha!

that was funny
WOW, why even go up Reed??
He has been a hero in this spot before
Loved Edmonds little headshake in the dugout

get back over here, rook.

funny

Jimmy!

Your turn, man.

1-1 on Jedmonds
1-2 on Jedmonds
base hit..Jedmonds
DOUBLE FOR JIMMY!
Time for Soriano to be the hero
Double!!!!!!!!!!
NIce job, Jimmy!

2 in scoring position for Sori.

the Jim Edmonds fan club is now passing out muffins

line forms to the right

Nice ED!!

Double. Now for Fonzie.

They have to IBB him here right?
base hit! cool! and Sori coming up!!!
2nd and 3rd...2 outs..guess hitting hack coming up!!!
Bring em home Sori!!!
S-O-R-I-A-N-O!!!!!!!!!!!
Gods, Sori

if there was any time for you to just get a hit, it’s NOW!

Well Jimbo just placed it in a spot

Now pinch hit Jimbo….Marquis

Marquis pinch running for Jedmonds
Pinch Runner Specialist

Jason Marquis!

Phillip Gerard is rooting for Soriano

from behind the dugout

Wooo, Edmonds!

Some on, Sori!

Good spot for a big hit...

Come on Soriano, give Samardzija a chance for the win!

crap, i forgot Theriot is like 0-10 wif bases loaded
3R HR!!!
Not cool

I thought he did… !!

yeah don’t do that – all i have is BCB right now.

fore sure gonna

walk him

Time for Soriano to "guess" it right and take a mighty "hack"
Come on Sori!

Take a guess hack!!

wish granted

shucks

wow

low strike zone

I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the idea that...

...our starting center fielder gets pinch-ran for by a pitcher.

Knee problem.

Precautionary. Nothing to worry about.

He's hurt...
And I'm not comfortable with that, given the alternatives.
they are going to pitch around him...no more strikes
Soriano..pops out
DAMMIT!

arg arg arg

A little bloop single works for me
Bah!

In play (out)

Damn it

Lets leave some more in scoring position. Now freakin Howry is in

I blame Theriot
Nice.

:^)

lot of man love for gritty player

good singles hitter, poor fielder

lots of love

Disagree...

Good singles hitter, average fielder.
Gotta’ have lots of love.
Cancel out all the hate. :^)

Ugly approach Soriano....he needs AB's

Well now we got Howry….wonder if he brought the extinguisher or gas can?

We know he's got his one pitch.
was is my heart sinking?
always makes me nervous
get a freakin hit with someone at third, please. maybe the 9th?
Aramis will get to bat so there is still hope
Yuppers.

Time to be a hero…AGAIN!

Time to "watch" it on I95-S via BlackBerry
drive carefully!
You don't own a radio?
1Dec is staying in the game and playing 2nd
Edmonds should of PH when ward was up
Hindsight is wonderful, isn't it?
No just a thought,
what was the difference?
Ward needs to be replaced
Bonds
I was thinking it but I didnt want to say it

I would have zero problem with that

I'll take it as well...

...If we can tolerate Jim Edmonds, then we can be okay with Barry Bonds.

I'm glad YOU said it and not me.
Bob "Scary" Howry...pheww...next 10 minutes is going to be like a horror movie
yup --holding onto edge of seat --
1-2..
Howry has no strikeout pitch anymore
Story of the game to day, CUbs 11 LOB
NO..story of the day..is "Shark"
My bad. You're right.
you mean Spunky?
yeah, that's not good.
Gotta shut them down here
how in the worlds was that not a "Strike"
full count boos starting to appear
Where was that?
He got Efffin squeezed!
Strike 3 UMP you missed it
howry needs to mix it up
8 straight fastballs, throw in a change up
Bob freakin Howry
God Darn..Howry
Scratch my back with a hack saw
well shit
poop?

whatever happened to poop?

I'm just mad

at the ump for calling that one pitch a ball when it was clearly a strike. This run probably wouldn’t have scored.

I could see that coming from 300 miles
I was gonna type the same thing
Gahh. Can't say I'm surprised.
bummmer

howry duddy

aw, hell.

Home run. 3-2

Game Over

release Howry. He’s finished.

couldn't agree more
Bah - plenty of time.

Remember earlier in the season? Down by 5 in the bottom of the ninth was a cakewalk.

We do bat again
I say don't DFA yet...

But how can Lou have confidence to put him in when the pressure’s on?!

damn it Sheffield HR 3-2 marlins
Howry has nothing ..had nothing from a looooooooong time
Howry should only be used if we are up or down 10, he is useless
FRUCK ump gave him an extra out

I used to sit on the front row and blow smoke to these guys….

Ooooh, it hurts us, precioussssssss.
Crap...

Seriously….what happened to this guy…He has nothing anymore.

Bob

and his gas can at the ballpark today.

thats what happens on the third 3-2 pitch when ou only have one above average pitch
Nice job

You sack-o-crap Howry!!!

Ladies and gentlemen

The Cubs are tied for 1st place

Why don't you wait until this game is over, at least?

Is the moron brigade going to come out now?

This game isn't over.

Who says Milwaukee is gonna win tonight?

Not completely over yet

If we can get out of this down 1, we have 2-3-4 up

I bet you laugh at funerals too.
Who is their closer and what has he done this year?
Kevin Gregg

And he’s good

Just hafta stop trotting Howry out there with less than a 5 run lead

Just can’t do it anymore.

Howry doin?

There just isn’t any more room for him on the 25-man.

Good catch..Kosuke
Was it a fastball?
What do you think?
I should have used the "rhetorical" font
HOWRY SUCKS

....but the game isn’t over!

Umm...

It really is over

no, it's not.

and if you think it is, there’s no need for you to comment on this board anymore.

Oh Snap!

haha

Lou In Blue Gets My Vote

for having the prettiest spouse on the board.

Actually, tied with my own. :-)

Ummm...

No it isn’t.

No, it isn't

Still two-thirds of an inning left, plus half of another one.

You do know they play nine innings, correct?

You do know the Cubs have left 12 men on right?
Yeah, and ...

I do know there’s one inning left. I don’t believe winners and losers are judged on how many men are LOB.

it isn't the men left on.

it’s the men yet to score.

THE
GAME
IS
NOT
OVER.

then why are you still here?

shouldn’t you leave and beat the traffic?

no, no. there’s time. keep hope alive.

Well,

you may not be very familiar with baseball, but that’s not really how it works.

That's what you get when you leave 5 guys on in the last 3 innings
No..This is what you get when you have Bob Freakin Howry on a major league roster
Didn't Lou get the Memo?

Howry is nothing more than a Mop up guy

the non-strike was low...

It was not strike 3. That was home-town hopefulness.

Funny that they said Howry hasn’t allowed many inhereted runners to score. Maybe because Pinella doesn’t trust him to bring him in with runners on?

It looked like a strike to me but it didn't matter--no excuse to give up a HR and now a double.

DFA the guy.

Ross they had a sideview and the missed call and it was above the knees

total missed call

Agreed.

Len and Bob said so too.

it was a good 3-4 inches above the knee at the front of the plate

according to the side view camera on WGN. Sorry Ross, we did get screwed on that.

Sure Howry Got Screwed Out of a K

but he still needed to buckle down and get the guy out.

Whether it’s fatigue or an injury or Father Time, I wouldn’t use Howry unless it was like 19-0.

i think it's time to send howry away

seriously he gives up so many runs in tight ballgames

What about not

pitching him in tight ballgames late?

Ramizrez Double

Ronny got an owee

Error

Ramirez to second

No error.

Who would of the error been on?

sloppy fielding on our part today
that ball died in the grass...
Memo to Lou

Howry is done. Full stop.

He shoulda never been put in...

D-O-N-E

Cedeno

got spiked. Great.

hope onedec is OK after getting spiked
That is truly pathetic, no way should we be giving up a double on that

Gotta know who is running

That ball just died in the grass...

long run for Fonz to get to it.

agreed. this whining for no reason is getting silly.

Complain about Howry’s poor pitching all you want (as you should!). But that double just ended up in a bad place. Sh^t happens.

Somebody go on the field and yell at Howry
LOL. Still only one out. Do you think the Marlins are looking for a breaking pitch? :-)
Seriously whoever goes out needs to show him how to throw a breaking ball while they are

being attacked by security

Like the guy when

He blew the lead against Colorado last year.

f ing howry

u suck so freaking much

I have been trying to be positive, but...

What the hell is wrong with Howry?
Why is Daryl Ward making $1.2 million to hit .250 and strike out with the bases juiced?
What the hell is up with double digit LOB???

phudge.

Why can't my farts smell like cotton candy?
that's what you get from going with the low-grade county fair cotton candy.

Gotta stick with the state fair cotton candy if you want to be ‘fresh’...

Or cinnamon rolls?
Howry sucks

Ward is having an awful season
Howry sucks

Bob Howry.

Do not want.

TAKE HOWRY OUT!!

Give us a chance, Lou! Ward & Dome both choked too, don’t forget that.

Prediction

Therot singles
Lee hits into a 4-6-Lee double play
Aramis K’s

i dare you to something optimistic.

Well at least we will still have a .5 lead after this game

Optimistic?

you're such a nub
The game isn't over

Why don’t you sit on your hands and watch the rest of it?

away with you

varlet. Learn how to be a fan someplace else.

why are you even on here
Another One

You’re not around the next time the Cubs win.

care to make it interesting? $20 to DLee's Project 3000

If you’re right, I’ll pay. If you’re wrong, you pay.

Prediction:

2-run RamBomb walks us off.

and let me guess

Cubs lose 17 of their next 20 and completely fall out of contention.

Conclusion

I don’t like you

Here is what I see on Howry

His FB is 3-4 mph slower than last year….he used to be 93-95 now is 90-92 and his slider is flatter…..

Meaning he is either hurt or losing it at his age. He could be scouted

My God

can we just DFA him yet?

and may be ask DeRo to pitch?
gocubs40? sure.
lol

I’m for that.

think we could get

a used infield rake?

we would be getting more

then he’s worth…let’s do it.

Not that I think

Howery should be pitching in the 9th inning of a tie game…..

But it boils really down to my pet peeve

RUNNERS LEFT ON BASE

LOB is a killer

Especially late in the game. The Cubs pitching has been pretty good today, all things considered.

Is Howry being considered?
On the whole

the pitching has been very good for a while.

Whatever They've Been Doing

to get them on in the first place is what they need to do in order to get them in. Keep making with the walks and hits…stop putting “the game is in my hands” pressure on yourselves!

the problem with him is he's a one pitch pitcher

it’s as simple as that

another problem: he's not fooling anyone.
whew

Dome saving our bacon.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/ccwolfe75/The_Bacon.jpg
Damn..I thought that ball is gone
This team really needs some pen help

Mr. Hendry please learn from you mistakes in 2004!

Admit it already,
What mistakes were those?

The players the Cubs needed in 2004 were there. They didn’t execute. That’s more on Dusty than on Hendry.

Is that you..MDBNIU??
He just needs to admit it already.
I'm not MDBNIU

But he was right about the 2004 team. Hendry could have shipped Guzman for bull pen help but did not. It was a mistake.

You know everything,

just like Blue Mike. Hindsight is 20/20.

Blue Mike..MDBNIU...BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness..ummmm..
Pitching didn't lose this game...

You can’t have 10 hits, strand 12 people on base, score only two runs and expect to win too many games.

I try NOT to be negative

but come on Howry, what the hell are you doing out there! If it weren’t for a great play by DeRosa last night we are looking at another loss due to Howry last night. Howry just seems like his days of dominance is over..

When did howry ever have days of dominance?
last August/Sept.....other years
yowza

This is sad to see Howry falling apart like this. A guy hitting 196 tattooed the ball there.

Hitters are batting .305 against Gas Can Howry

Nuff said!

We should've gotten Rauch

ARZ didn’t give up jack for him!

Would ya rather of seen Eyre out there?

n/t

Yes
I wouldn't have

agree we disagree

Go Dome!

Thanks for the helping hand. (Go ahead… I dare you to try and run on me)

WHY DON'T WE JUST ALL FREAK OUT?! BAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[grin]

Good one.

Funny - that doesn't look like Rick James...
a lot of educated fans here
In this instance, Howry probably does need to be moved.

Whether that is to another team or to Iowa or to retirement, he needs to go. There’s less than a half season of a 3 year deal left to eat, and they’re going to have to pay him that whether he’s blowing games or sitting at home eating chips.

It’s time for Howry to go.

At least Shar Boy was pretty impressive and

he could replace Howry once he is dumped

yeah, that's what I'm thinking too.
They're smoking the ball off of him even on outs

That’s why I still thought he sucked yesterday, even though he didn’t give up any runs. DeRosa saved his ass night.

This might be the longest inning

in my life.

Pretty sure

Game 6, NLCS, 2003, 8th inning…pretty sure that was the longest inning of our collective lives.

Dan

:weeps:
:sobs:

It took me until last year to get over my depression.

I don't think

Howry’s fooling anyone.

Whew. Out of the inning.

Have no fear the Shark is here
inning over..phewwww
Minus 1 pitch

Howry got out unscathed…

Unfortunately

one pitch might make all the difference.

That missed strike changed everything

Still, you can’t let it come down to an umpire’s mistake.

Good pitchers tend to overcome bad calls.
Another long out
you're such a nub
he's a troll, just comes around when cubs are down, just like the D'backs series. ignore him
thank god THAT inning's over
that was like sitting on one of the craziest rides in the six flags
My tummy sure

feels like it.

And Here we go.....
+1 for TDK reference
Riot single, lee double aramis basehit and lets go home
I'm out.

listen to the rest in my car. GO CUBS

drive safely!
at least he only gave up one run
Championship teams

Win some games like this. I hope this is one of ‘em.

RALLY CAP TIME

she is a stand up girl

I’d say she is a trooper…..

She's wearing a cap?
RALLY BOOB TIME?
How did you get that picture of my girlfriend?
Tell her to stop sending me her photos!
HAHAHAHA

Good one!!!

silcone sally
what a beautiful day for baseball... let's play TWO!
Rally Cleavage!

New for 2008!

Howry throws a strike on his 141st pitch of the inning.
Okay let's see what the middle of the order can do.
Not really a gas can

but Howry gave up a HR when the ump gave the Fish an extra out

Sh** happens..but that should not be an excuse
He's getting knocked around the park.

If you or I were pitching, we may get a similar result. Everything is getting hit really, really hard. Some are base hits, some are outs, some are HR.

Whatever, they are still hitting .305 off him!!!

He sucks!

It's "Walk Off" time !!!!!!!!
A Personal Positive Note

I just accepted a full time job offer from a well-established printing company in the OC. Good pay, benefits, and the company itself is a long established (read: wealthy) firm. Even better news is that I’ll be around here less during the day. :-p

-1

For the phrase “the OC.”

It's Common Phraseology In These Parts
So is "Go Cards" around here.
I See You Won't Be Missing Me Too Much!

:-D

Nope. Not really.

:D

I was mostly playing on an Arrested Development joke about the usage of “the OC.”

Congratulations!
I can smell extra innings
Ugly AB right there
Way

to work that count, Theriot.

Good start
nub in the house
You will die unhappy

and miss everything cool

How many games left on WGN?

They are playing less than .500

I wonder

Cwyers around here? I wonder if the Cubs WGN record is statistically different from their CSN/ESPN record. My guess is yes, but I cannot imagine a reason for it to be so.

C'mon, DLee!
Down to the last chance
Time for ARam to take this game to Xtra innings
Lets not make him work hard

Aramis needs to be clutch here

Lee is really not getting it done.

I love the guy, but there is either something wrong, or he’s getting old.

Cubs will still win!!!!!!!
Seriously go away
Why because I was right?
no cause u harp on the negative

like the nub you are

It's easy to be negative nancy

This board is for fans who cheer for the team, not celebrate and predict their demise!

actually you were totally wrong on the Cubs 9th inning

Derrek Lee will gladly accept your $20 contribution to Project 3000 anytime now…

This Board Isn't About "Being Right"
I don't know who you are, but you're kind of a troll, and a jerk
can somebody work the count
Can we trade Howry to the fish 2night and can he start tomorrow?
that would be nice
Clutch time...
Game over...Tie Series
Game.
why

do you rejoice in the cubs losing? get a life.

Like I've said

Some Cubs fans just love to be miserable.

I can't imagine what it

would be like sitting in the stands next to one of these idiots. I’m afraid my choice of beverage would be ion their head.

What would these guys be saying

if the Cubs were in fifth place?

Spewing the same shit

its all they know how to do.

This sarcasm & defeatist attitude is for the weak & and its all they know.

They probably would even be here.
wouldn't
You're probably correct

Cubs are 3-5 since the ASB—not great, but not flat-out awful, either. Unless the Cubs went 7-1, there’s no way they would have kept up with the Brewers, who are 7-0.

Ups and downs. That’s how a season rolls.

are you sure some are not trolls?
and we lose

oh well get em tomorrow

Ugh!

Bummer. What a crappy start to the weekend.

Well we deserved to lose, left way too many on base
Bob Howry is a POS and should be cut right now

Harden will go perfect tomorrow. Go whoever the Brewers are playing

No problemo...Brew Crew is going to loose tonight and cards will be 5 out after tonight
or still..4 out
Umm...

How do the Cardinals lose a game when we lose?

Brewers are due for a loss, there playing over their heads right now
they are playing waaay over their heads and ..the turds were shitting their pants and gave the games away to the cheese crew on a platter
Thanks Howry

and the rest of non-clutch hitters. Better win tomorrow or start watching the wild card race.

Really?

tomorrow is a do-or-die game or the division?

no.

I have watched Gregg implode so many times

He walks a ton. What the hell are they doing?

.5 game lead
only a few hours left before we round it up to the next higher integer..
Have fun praying for the Brewers to lose tonight.
Is this Cecil Fielder?
Have fun playing with yourself tonight

Since that’s probably the only joy you ever see.

Have fun

with your empty life & loser friends

Well that was a bit offsides, but I'm not here to judge....

haha, lets get a win tomorrow and reverse everyones spirits!

no need to pray for the obvious....go back to your cheese cakes
Really?

Maybe I can get to Vegas and put my life’s savings on it.

You are too much.

Will you just relax..I am saying that..the brew crew are going to loose tonight..

sheesh

Sorry, I can't keep track of all the quasi-rational comments

Thought you meant 0, but I guess 1 is highter. Math never was my strong suit.

It;'s ok. That was a fun game though..I am excited at the debut of the Shark
He looked pretty good, didn't he?

A little shaky in the first inning, but a very efficient second. Maybe he stays up after Wood comes off the DL.

Divorce yourself of partisan leanings and indeed, it was a fun game. (Glad I avoided the game thread for most of it. :)

LOSE

THE WORD IS LOSE.

LOOSE IS HOW THE BREWERS WEAR THEIR UNIFORMS.

LOL and... yeah
or may be you clicked on the wrong 'reply' button
But

our rookie got some experience….

And that's baseball.

Get em tomorrow!

WE FAILED

Don't post that pix from

2003 and the Marlins. Just don’t.

Yeah post a pic from 2004

Because the Cubs choked away a 5.5 game lead in just 2 weeks.

Good grief, man.

Go have a beer.

Mom won't let him.
Wow, The Past Unfailingly Determines The Future!

Who you liking to win World War 3? Germany or Iran?

you can also move to india

and never go to this website ever again

Huh? The Bartman picture? Why would I post that? I'm a long time regular and pretty positive about our team...
yes...this pic is a big NO-NO..
Hey, I wasn't trying to piss anyone off...

...we lost, and this is juust how I feel after a loss. I didn’t mean anything factious by it. Seriously.

Dan

I gotcha, feeling the same way
Other team's fans post that pic as a slam on the Cubs all the time.
Oh, well, that makes sense then.

I wasn’t trying to do that. We lost, I’m sad. And I’ve posted that picture before, and never heard a word about it. First time for everything.

Dan

Curious.

I saw it in one other loss thread and it got the same exact reaction.

I got ya.

Still, that pic is not welcome round these here parts.

I know that girl.

I’m not kidding.

She looks so sad.
Is she okay?
Oh she's fine.

She’s just very passionate about her Bears and Cubs.

Sounds like a girl I'd like to meet.

;)

oh, so posting the pic is not welcome but now you want to meet her?
well lets just hope the brewers lose... they have to lose at some point..

and tonite would be a good time to do that…

Love Len's comment last inning

...pitchers out of their “Comfort Zone…”

An idea:

1) Throw strikes
2) Get outs
3) WHY does it make a difference what inning you perform the above tasks in?????

Damn Tony La Russa. All of baseball has bought into this crap.

Beautiful job by the middle of the order.

Both runs came from the 5 and 8 hitters

you're such a nub
Not really...

It’s just a fact.

calling u a nub has nothing to do with the facts you stated

i’m just calling you what i think of you

If you read Al's Game Recap the other day, he specifically asked that people do not call each other names.

Im just pointing that out in case you missed it.

o i'm sry i just calling ppl what they should be called

i’m sincerely sry for upseting you but nub is not a name it’s an adjective that you probably don’t even know what it means

You are personally attacking someone on here which is not allowed.

Don’t go after me now, I was just filling you in on the rule in case you missed it. And I know what a nub is also. Can you just be nice please?

Stop the name calling!@
lou has got to quit running howry out there
What other option did he have?
Eyre, Gaudin
Tough to say.

Lee, Ramirez and Dome are stinking so bad with the bats it wouldn’t have made any difference.

We have a great team.

But Lou needs one more arm in the pen.

Howary is done.

Fat Erye is not going to help.

Walk’um in Cotts…no.

AAA crew…is in AAA for a reason.

We are truly short one guy.

With this rotation and 3 bullpen guys we could win it all.

Make the move Jim…make the move!

admit it
Would Smardzija

qualify as that “other arm,” do you think?

I highly suspect Hendry will get another arm, anyway.

Everything. OK!

I’ll talk! In third grade, I cheated on my history exam. In fourth grade, I stole my uncle Max’s toupee and I glued it on my face when I was Moses in my Hebrew School play. In fifth grade, I knocked my sister Edie down the stairs and I blamed it on the dog…When my mom sent me to the summer camp for fat kids and then they served lunch I got nuts and I pigged out and they kicked me out…But the worst thing I ever done - I mixed a pot of fake puke at home and then I went to this movie theater, hid the puke in my jacket, climbed up to the balcony and then, t-t-then, I made a noise like this: hua-hua-hua-huaaaaaaa - and then I dumped it over the side, all over the people in the audience. And then, this was horrible, all the people started getting sick and throwing up all over each other. I never felt so bad in my entire life.

Do the troufle shuffle....Chunk
hahaha This really is MDNIU
Who would you like the Cubs to acquire

and who do you want to give up? You make a bold statement without any substance.

My Dream would be Burnett

and move him to the pen, but Ron Mahay looks good to me too.

??????????

Burnett’s a starter. I saw enough of Mahay when he pitched here before. Those, sorry to say are not viable options.

He's a starter who has injury issues.

He could also be insurance against Harden’s arm hurting later in the season.

Trade Cedone, Veal, Marshall to the Jays for him and Eckstein (to back up Theriot).

Well, who should they give up?

Teams aren’t going to let you have those guys for nothing.

and those are the biggest traits of MDBNIU
as bad as Howry was today

our pitching only gave up 3 runs.

Since the ASG, we are getting basically nothing out of DLee, ARam and Kosuke. This can not continue. As long as the Suds are hitting on all cylinders and we are getting no hitting from these three our little problems are magnified.

Let’s just hope our bats wake up soon. This hitting/power outage from these three guys is really letting a lot of good pitching efforts go from Ws and turn them into Ls.

They had shown signs of snapping out of it the last two days

A bit of a regression today. 2-1 with Soriano back. Keep the faith.

I am

Cubs can play .500 ball and should still make the play-offs, but I’m hoping for this team to be even better than just a “play-off team.”

Be we will see.

They scored *2* runs.

And you guys are bitching about the bullpen?

Cubs pitchers ERA today was 3.00

That’s excellent.

Agreed but

1 run ball games are won and lost really by the Pen. If they had done their job it would have been a victory.

You can't expect a shutout every day

You’ve got to drive in at least one run when you had the chance in the sixth, seventh and eighth. Bad timing, bad at-bats.

I wouldn’t mind seeing another bullpen arm, but the middle of the order has to become more consistent.

hate to say it but....

Seriously, could you stop posting this.

It’s annoying.

twice in 5 1/2 hours doesn't seem too excessive
It does to me.

It’s not that funny – especially right now.

To be fair

He said annoying, you said excessive. It is annoying.

this is obnoxious
apparently, you don't 'hate' to say it...

...else you wouldn’t have posted it.

If you’re going to be a ledge-jumper, at least be an honest ledge-jumper…

Disingenuous ledge jumpers

I hate those guys.

General assesment - No need to nitpick the team

Lou will take care of these “hiccups.” We’ve got a long season. I like the fact were in first and not playing from 8 games behind. We’ve got the chips in place.

As if this afternoon was not bad enough

I get to go home and actually watch games but I have to root for the METS and the
Astros. I am gonna be sick.

FYI note to Blue Mike and his new ID. An extra bullpen arm does not help when you
don’t score and leave runners all over the place

Talk about "shitty"...I have to root for the Astros and the Mets 2night..damn
Where have I heard that before...?

This is sadly true…

The Astros don't beat anyone except us.

n/t

There's no way that could possibly be true

Is it? I have no idea what Houston’s record is.

Last in our division but have a winning record against the Cubs
Interesting
I think the Astros are 5-4 vs. Chicago

And KC is 4-2 vs. St. Louis. What’s your point, gocubs40?

Apparently all of Houston's wins have come against us

Gotta be some kinda record.

It sucks to be you...Your Season is Oveeeer..and that's why you are trolling here?
We should have lost today

any team that has over 10 hits and only scores 2 runs doesn’t deserve to win. Honestly, our big bats did nothing when they were needed.

Correct

If the Cubs had won today, it would have been a steal.

Sometimes

you just lose.

Bob Howry is done

When all you throw is a fastball, and it is 88-91 mph with little movement, you are going to have the Hermidas of the world kill you.

He needs to go, now. He cannot perform the job he is asked to do…get guys out. Even the outs he manages to get are hard hit shots.

Sole possession of first was fun, but hopefully the Cubs can get it back in Milwaukee. If the pen pitches like it has, then it could get ugly fast.

thats why jim should trade him do something with him

before this gets out of hand

Hold the phone, amigo

Have the Brewers already won today? I don’t think the game begins until 7 p.m.

And how many games has the pen lost us recently, up until this one? And what were the scores of those games?

I am not averse to getting another arm - Shark might actually be it - but let’s not let the facts get in the way here.

Do you see Houston winning in Milwaukee tonight?

I’d love to see it, but I don’t. Manny Parra is pitching very well recently, and the Brewers kill lefties.

As for the bullpen, they have a post All-Star ERA of nearly 7. But, they only have one loss, so I guess that’s acceptable…

Why bother playing, then?

Did you think Wandy Rodriguez would have beaten Zambrano last week? Rodriguez is pitching again tonight.

To show it works the other way, did you think Jason Marquis would have beaten Roy Halladay last month in Toronto?

Basically, if I’m following your logic correctly, why don’t you cede the division title to the Brewers right now?

Right on cue

Every time after a loss never fails.

Huh?
Your comments

only come after the team loses, get it now?

Do your homework, smart guy

You’ll notice my first post here was while the game still was tied.

I also posted the other night after the D-Backs victory. I work at night, so I don’t always have time on my hands to post after night games.

It’s also not my fault more ignoramuses post here after losses than victories.

There you go again

Is it your fault for responding to them? I mean a smart, level headed guy like yourself, stooping to the level of an “ignoramus”.

I've taken enough of your bait

Go play on the freeway.

Pffft, whatever man

I missed you first post as I was working, but your comments increase ten-fold after this team loses. That is a fact.

Lot more dumbasses

that deserve a smackdown post after losses. Sorry if you can’t see that.

Flagged!

stop the name calling!

Piss off, Ken

You’re like Captain Ahab and I’m Moby Dick. Go play on the freeway, too.

You bet NBF,

I will continue to flag you until Al tells me to stop. He is the one that said he wanted your kind of garbage to stop, so if he doesn’t mind your juvenile nonsense, then ok.

If Al wants to say it to me

that is his right. This is his site, after all.

It isn’t yours. Remember that.

Talk about making a jump...

All I said is that I don’t see Wandy Rodriguez (and others) beating the Brewers tonight. I wouldn’t drop dead in shock if it happened, because it could, but if I still bet on baseball, I’d take the Brewers. I hope I’m wrong, and Rodriguez pitches a no-hitter.

How that got transformed into giving the Brewers the division is beyond me.

"Sole possession of first WAS fun ..."

If you’re predicting the future so well, you might as well predict that, too.

It's my fault

I screwed up major today at work and the SVP of Operations told me my punishment is the Cubs have to lose today. Sorry everyone.

Ah, forget about it.
We're no longer speaking.
Put him in the....IRON MAIDEN.
Excellent!!!
Naw, it's

not your fault. Losing happens.

WHY would anybody want him?

How can you trade a player with no tradable value? This ain’t fantasy baseball.

you can't trade players with no value in fantasy baseball either.

just sayin’

I was thinking the same thing.

I’ve tried.

He has value

His kidneys could fetch $2000 on the open market.

That explains why my fantasy trade offer

of Trevor Hoffman for Josh Hamilton was turned down.

Just DFA Howry

End of story.

Tell it again
Shut your mouth troll

Or I will sick our billy goat on your punk @&^

I agree, but you know we wont

Hendry will come up with some bs that hes still good

You can always find somebody

in Fantasy Leagues who doesn’t have a clue. The Padres of the Fantasy World, so to speak.

In real life, that team would like to unload some of their crap - butr nobody wants any of them. Look how little they took for Randy Wolf. They’d unload Greene, Kouzmanoff - but no takers….anywhere.

I thought Dodgers

where the morons of the MLB?

Why do people start freaking out when you talk about

trades on this site.

I love the cubs but I want to see them get better.

Nothing wrong with that, right?

You just can't make trades

when you cannot send value to then other team.

Correct

You have to give up value to get some value.

I really don’t think the Cubs are missing much. Maybe one more BP arm (which they might already have), maybe one more bench guy. The pieces are in place. It’s up to the players to do their jobs.

The problem lately is that the middle of the order hasn’t been producing the way it should. As I wrote earlier, they have been showing signs of snapping out of it until today. Once they start hitting again, the Cubs should be OK.

And even today...

they hit the ball….just didn’t get the big….it’s not like they only had 3 or 4 baserunners….they were patient and got somee walks…just no RBI’s

Exactly

Plenty of hits, but never the big one.

Because your trade ideas are usually nuts

Like the Cubs trading for a STARTER ( Burnett) who may or may not want you to keep him for the
next 2 years for 12 million per ( but only if he sucks). You always propose the same Cub players you claim suck and and act as if no other teams with SIGNIFICANTLY more to offer might be wanting the same players.
Look we blew are wad getting Harden for you so be happy.

Really?

Two AAAA players and one good pitcher?

That is not the wad. We have Pie, Colvin, Ceda, etc… to play with. This team is riddled with large back end contracts so the time to win is now!

I know Burnett to the pen is crazy but I’m just thinking outside of the box. Plus I really don’t want to talk about the typical BS rent a pitcher pen guys because all of them suck.

Yep 2AA Guys one very good Young pitcher and bench guy

For one guy with “FILTHY stuff who can HOPEFULLY go six innings IF he can start every 5th day
I was honestly a fair trade. I suggest you check out mlbtraderumors.com where guys who actually know ( well most of them) discuss what is actually going on and not Pie, Colvin and Ceda
for Halliday or whatever the odd idea is this week. Oh and what are the Yankees, Mets, Marlins
Brewers, Cardinals, Phillies, Red Sox Braves and nearly every team in the race looking for , why BULLPEN help either set up or closer. Most will have to live with what they have ( but damn those
D’backs for getting Rausch for so little) because prices are high and demand is higher.

The Padres

are run by Kevin Towers, Sandy Alderson and Paul DePodesta—90 years of experience combined, and all they can come up with is the current 4A team.

I think several AAA teams might be better

On some days.

I take back every mean thing I ever said about Ned Colletti. Please Ned get MADDUX out of there.
Schmits is NEVER coming back and Penny probably ain’t either. Kernshow is NOT reliable and the Stuilts guy (sic) is done. You need another reliable starter.

OT: TDK

Goin to my third showing of The Dark Knight tonight, which will be my first time on IMAX. I’ve been told it is drastically different, maybe I’ll throw up a review with comparisons later tonight.

Dan

The Dodgers

may be overpaying for their current record, but they are in the race and have infused young talent into their line-up. The Dodgers have talent in their system. The Padres—have nothing.

Yes, Not B

If this team was scoring runs as it was earlier we wouldn’t be having this discussion. The pen LOOKS worse than it actually is, because there’s no margin for error any more.

Although teams are batting over .300 against Howry. That’s a problem

It is

In a 3-4 run game, no big deal. In this sort of a game, it is one.

This kind of reminds me of how Eyre started out last season. He came around, eventually. Howry has been up and down.

Aside from him, though, I really don’t see problems in the pen (not even Marmol).

I hope Howry gets a blister that lasts until about 11/1/08

What a flaming P.O.S.

Only good thing that could come out of this one is that HOPEFULLY Hendry will go out and try to get another 45-50 bullpen arms.

Well, being in 1st place was fun, while it lasted.

Uh ... check the standings, Ace

I think no matter what happens tonight in Brewtown, the Cubs still are in first place.

Are you posting without a license again?

Did I say that 1st place would end tonight?

No…......................

Reading comprehension dude. TRY IT!!!!!!!!

"Well, being in 1st place was fun, while it lasted"

There’s no other way to comprehend what you wrote, Einstein.

Easy Guys...

We lost a tough one today, and everybody feels bad, but we have a whole two months to go. I’ve seen some pretty amazing stuff happen as a fan so let’s not lose hope…and please let’s not take it out on each other.

CaliCub- It's OK. I hurt Hot Bruce's widdle feelings a couple of nights ago.

I have never met him, but it is painfully obvious that he is very sensitive when anyone has anything negative to say about the Cubs.

No, I have a real problem with people spewing bullsh*t

that isn’t even true. That’s the issue, dumbarse.

Flagged!
Go ahead, Ken

Flag it all you want, Mr. Policeman.

I'd flag Himey before I'd flag NBF...

He’s obviously being provoked.

carmen,

frankly, I thought “Illionishimey” was banned. NBF provokes arguments simply because he thinks his view of things is the only view. NBF is nothing more than a hack who thinks he knows more than he does.

I thought Himey was banned too...

....I don’t condone NBF’s comments because he was baited and obviously took the bait. But comparing the two’s comments, I’d argue that Himey’s way were way more out of line. But, hey, that’s just my humble opinion.

"Himey's were way more..." edit
way
Well, when one ASSUMES......................

It make a something out of you and you.

Comprende?

Was just on WGN radio with Steve Cochrane. Said that the same thing about the wish for a Bobby Howry blister. He loved it, unlike the sensitive types on this site.

HOPEFULLY

this is your last post.

Hopefully..............................

Bobby Howry will never step foot on the field again.

Heeeeeeeee's baaaaaaackkkk!
I had to leave to come back.

I never went away.

I'm now confuddled....

which one is MDBNIU?????
the contestants are…..

IlliniHimey
BrewCrew’sPrinceofDarkness
Mystery contestant #3

and the winner is?

BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness...

I think he’s the front runner.

think you are on to something there
I was really good at the board game Clue as a kid...
Okay, the choices are...

MDBNIU in the conservatory with the candlestick

IlliniHimey in the dining room with the rope

BrewCrew’sPrinceofDarkness with the revolver.

you forgot gocubs40
oops...

should have done a Richard Dawson homage…..

Survey Says

Which One's Pink?
Pink?
In Response To "Which One Is MDBNIU?"

a line from the song “Have A Cigar”.

My Own Observations On the Past Week

Cubs’ offense has been as good as the opposing pitching has been bad. If a guy like Randy Johnson or Brian Moehler is on their game, we don’t score. But if said guy starts scuffling, we cash ‘em in.

Need to find a way to win games when we go up against a Sabathia or a journeyman who happens to have it going that particular night. A tighter bullpen would help – more Shark, less Howry, maybe a Fuentes or a Street. And a better PH option than Ward. Of course, the option of spelling a tired Dome or a slumping Lee would go a long way to sustaining the offensive output as well, so maybe Hendry trades for another hitter.

Stupid Howry

Just venting. Carry on.

A Solid Post Nonetheless

In fact there should me more like it.

So let take Howry

Ship him off to Milwaukee

Then

PROFIT!!!!!!!

I think everyone overreacts when we lose

My $0.02

Overreact?

Well, then I guess Pinella plays Howry because Howry must have pictures of Pinella in a compromising position.

What else explains why Pinella would continually throw this loser out there.

Oh, and for those of you zealots that think Howry will eventually warm up, NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!!

Season is about 100 games over. Just when is Howry going to ‘shine’?

What I think of your comments:

That is a really ugly cat.
Looks JUST Like Garfield

Is he lazy and does he like lasagna?

that is one cool cat with proper 'tude
It not just the losses

Its the one-run losses that make you the same way you do two days after drinking a bottle of Xtrem hot-sauce.

—-Left in the bathroon with your hands on your head mumbling to yourself, “Why, Why.”

I thought the Cubs were automatic at home?

That is what this board was telling me after that disgraceful road trip.

Hmmmmmm….....................

Drink hot sauce troll!
Eat a bag of P***S's
Dude...

Go away. Oh, and it’s eat a bowl of dick.

This is getting out of control.

Have a good night everyone. And go Astros!

Dan

What exactly is out of control?

Did someone turn the rainbow machine off?

Out of control? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

You dish some of it out, then you run. Beauty.

I would have like to have seen Marshall in that Spot in the 9th

The fact that you had the top of your order up the next half inning Lou did not need to double switch and could have pitched him a couple of innings if needed. It is just irresponsible to throw the same guy out three days in a row especially when he has been struggling like that.

Still…the offense has to become more consistent..period. We should have won all of these games after the ASB. The pitching has been outstanding. Just have to hope that when we finally do get hot with the bats that the pitching does not go south

All of them?

Really?

Except maybe the Johnson game....yes

We have lost

2-1, 4-1, 2-0, 9-2, 3-2 since the break

All of those were winnable games (9-2 game did not get out of hand till late when Lou let hart take one on the chin) if our offense was more consistent. I understand that you can’t win them all, but it sucks to give up 5 games when the pitching has been solid.

I'm with you on

the 2-1, 2-0 and today’s game. Realistically, I think those were their best chances to win.

agreed

Everyone is so down on Howry, but the fact of the matter is he has been overused lately. What does Lou have against Marshall? He did great a few weeks back. I too would have used him in the ninth.

He's been more consistent starting than relieving

In my opinion…though hes had good and bad gamee doing both

I don't think Marshall has been outright awful

except for his relief appearance in the Diamondbacks’ game a few nights ago.

If the game goes into extras, you want Marshall to be your long man, no?

Probably so...but it would have come at the expense of ARAM or Dome or Soto

Because the pitcher’s spot could have come up in 10th and Lou would have been forced to double switch Dero or Blanco to protect Marshall for a couple of innings. I would have done Marshall 9 and 10, gaudin 11, 12, and then after that it is a crap shoot.

Howry should have been a last resort since he had already pitched two days in a row and I believe that he threw over 30 pitches in the AZ appearance

A few observations from the last few games

Writing this down is therapuetic for me since I go into a funk after a tough loss. Thanks for induldging me.

First the Negatives:

1. Bob Howry is bad. We don’t really have many other options but he is not the solution;
2. DLee is a shell of his former self offensively. I don’t like him in the 3 hole. It seems the best I can hope for in a clutch situation is a walk. Not a good feeling from your number 3.

3. Marmol is tired. I don’t care what bull people say about him needing to pitch more to stay sharp. He needs rest.
4. Ryan Theriot should NEVER attempt to steal a base. I am one of those who like him but base stealing is something he is unable to master.
5. Last year Ward hit better when he pinch hit versus starting. I think the opposite is true this year. I would like to seem him at first once in a while to get more at bats.

The Good:

1. Reed Johnson is my new favorite player. I just love everything he brings to the game.
2. Ryan Dempster is a gamer. He did not have his best stuff today, yet he battled to put us in a position to win.
3. The Shark looked good. I thought he did great considering the circumstances. I think he will do well.
4. As frustrating as Wood can be at times, we need him. Kerry, I promise I won’t be so hard on you the next time you have a bad outing.

Good Stuff and Well-Balanced

DLee this year is sort of like Sammy was in 2004. After a while it became apparent that he needed to be moved down in the order, so maybe we’ll see that with Derrek in the coming weeks.

I can't figure out Lee....

He actually has the most hits in the NL (or at least he did a couple of days ago)......he just seems to miss getting the RBI’s

I correct my self....3rd most hits in NL

4th now….Braun just passed him

OT: This oughta cheer us up

Mad Men comes back Sunday night!!

Samardzija

There is a lot to like about this kid. All in all, he was pretty posed, although the pitch-out showed that he still has a Nuke LaLoosh kink or two to iron out.

His fastball was sweet. 95-98 miles an hour, with a little snap at the end that was putting it right on the outside corner to righties. Unfortunately, he does need another pitch that he can get over the plate. Cantu got to him because he was consistently putting the fastball in the same place, and he needed an out pitch. I think that he shook off Soto on that one. It is good to have confidence in your fastball, and he would have gotten a lot of major league hitters out with what he was offering, but the Fish have some good hitters.

Better Than I Expected

While he gave up a run in two innings, in the main I liked what I saw out of him. There were some jitters but he didn’t completely implode out there today. The tailing fastball looked pretty dang nasty at times.

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