• Fantastic return to form by Big Z. Efficient and in control of his emotions. Really buckled down with runners on base and got out of things unscathed – with runners on 1st and 2nd with one out in the 6th, he retires Glaus on an infield pop-up and gets Duncan on a roller to short.
• Another dropped throw by Theriot in the 3rd. Sadly this isn’t the first time Ryan’s done this. Sure hope a veteran SS with a trusty glove who can be used as a late-inning defensive replacement is part of Hendry’s shopping list.
• Good to see HRs as part of the Cub arsenal tonight (Dome, Soto). Puts the Cubs on pace for 180 on the season.
• Fukudome with two Ks tonight. On pace for approximately 120 this year. Not to be racist but I always thought Japanese players didn’t strike out that much?
• Crappy top of the 6th. ARam should lay off those low-and-away pitches because he either Ks or pulls weak grounders to the left side. Edmonds missed a very hittable pitch for strike three. Hard to say whether or not Soto should’ve stayed on first or taken off immediately once the ball got away from Molina. Extra runs would’ve been nice there.
• Good set-up work by Howry and Cotts, even with the solo HR to Pujols.
• Edmonds Ks three times tonight. Need him to have a better Saturday and Sunday!
• Soto goes 3-3. Would be neat if he ends up the starting C in the All-Star Game.
• Cards are a good defensive club. I wonder if they take infield before every game? Most clubs don’t these days so it would give them an edge if they do.
• Great clutch save by Woody, protecting a one-run lead. Looking less and less jittery and more and more in total control.
• Cubs win! Huge victory tonight because the worst that can happen is the Cubs come home still in 1st place after this weekend.
If what I said makes me racist, I apologize. I just meant that the style of play in the Japan League was contact over striking out. So it’s surprising to see Dome racking up so many Ks – however if he was the same way with Chunichi then so be it.
...May 1st through yesterday, he was hitting .300/.384/.329, for a .713 OPS or an 89 OPS+. I guess you can say he hasn’t been Willie Bloomquist bad, or Brian Bixler bad. But it’s not exactly impressive.
People say “no power” like it just means he’s not a 25 home run guy or something. It goes much deeper than that.
IMO, he’s not an everyday SS. But, what would you do if you were Jim Hendry? We have a limited number of A and B prospects. We may need another SP. We will need another RP if we can’t get Marmol straightened out. We need to have something in reserve in case we get an injury in July. Would a trade for a SS be a priority for you? If so, who would you target?
Would you prefer Cedeno? DeRo at SS/Fontenot vs. RHP?
You’re a better stat geek than I am, but isn’t it true that OPS, while an improvement over BA as the “one number of hitting” is not all that great because it overvalues slugging percentage? I’ve heard one analysis claim that OBP is about 1.7 times as important as slugging in terms of scoring runs, and I’ve heard people say the ratio is as high as 3. A Google search yields this: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:xjw4DH0ViFcJ:www.retrosheet.org/Research/PankinM/Pankin-sabr36.pdf+relative+importance+of+obp+and+slugging&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a
Which makes the point that I was about to make, that on a high-scoring team like this year’s Cubbies extra points of OBP are worth more than extra points of slugging by even more than usual.
Furthermore, a player that gets on base a lot and doesn’t have much power can hit in a lineup position that suits his strengths and weaknesses. The Cubs have tons of power; they lead the NL in slugging pct, last I checked. If Theriot can sustain a .384 OBP (not 100% certain) and he’s used intelligently WRT lineup position and baserunning activity, that’s not bad for a guy that doesn’t cost much money.
Now he has run into a lot of outs this year. And his defense isn’t that good. So overall the Cubs might be able to find someone better. But they’d have to pay for that guy in salary or in players. They’d have to find someone whose purchase/rental price is reasonable given their probably modest improvement in production over the remaining season (insert definition of reasonable here; you have to weigh factors such as prospect development vs. instant production, and estimate the future value of those prospects, all of which is subject to differences of opinion).
to the Giants series to end the first half, and good news. Cubs avoid Lincecum. 2 of 3 here, then 5 of 6 on the homestand to get to the break. Let it be so.
Crazy 18-inning, high scoring game between the Mets and Braves that ended at 3:30am. Then they let off fireworks at 4am and freaked out the whole city!
At around 2 a.m., in the 17th inning, Atlanta relief pitcher Rick Camp hit a two-out, game-tying solo home run, his first and only MLB homer. As the portly Camp slowly rounded the bases with a big grin on his bearded face, the TV announcer yelled, “Rick Camp! Rick Camp! I don’t believe it. That certifies this as the wackiest, wildest, most improbable game in history!”
I’m from your neck of the woods, up in Victoria. Ever been here? I was in Seattle for Father’s Day – saw the M’s and Nationals…wow, lots of suckatude there!
It was really cold this morning, but its warm and sunny ( for mid winter) now. Im in Melbourne down South where it can get down to 40 on bitter mornings.
Never got a chance. I was only in Melboune for a couple of days.
Saw Phantom of the Opera there. I have spent mst of my time in the Sydney area. Darling Harbor and Circular Quay were kind of neat. King’s cross was a madhouse. Lots of hookers.
has morphed from Junkie infested madhouse, to a hip junkie infested madhouse by virtue of new cool bars popping up in it. The hookers have been there since the 30’s alledgedly. There obviosly getting a bit old for the caper now you’d think!
Yeah, it's quite the tourist trap. I was surprised at how big the legalized
sports betting is in your country. You couldn’t turn around without seeing an ad about it. Sports in general is pretty big too. You guys really like your rugby league and footy. Aussie jock are real animals. They put their bodies on the line every match and leave it all on the field.
Sport is semi religious here. I am an ex Aussie Rules player and have had more than a dozen operations to keep on the field….and I love to punt on the races rugby footy ect. The reason I became Cubbie obsessed was I needed a team and a sport to follow whn i lived in the US and Canada. Then I went to the shrine of Wrigley and the matter was settled.
I loved to watch the footy matches on TV over there. The fans
are so passionate about there teams. I can see why you would end up with a lot of injuries in that game. Our guys wear full pads and they still end up getting beat to hell.
First!!!!
Go CUBBIES!!!
slcathena - July 4, 2008
Haha
second
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
where is everyone
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
I was waiting. I am bad luck when I am first
LAcarl519 - July 4, 2008
I'd love to
light up Izzy
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
+1
LAcarl519 - July 4, 2008
Notsomuch, Al
Jimmy Ballgame Ks
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
maybe tomorrow
for a hit
Unrestricted View - July 4, 2008
or a great basket catch
thats more his style of heroics
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
Poor Jimmy....
he’ll do better tomorrow
sue369 - July 4, 2008
Come on Geo!!!!!!
slcathena - July 4, 2008
TWSS?
sue369 - July 4, 2008
not sure huh?
UTCUBS - July 4, 2008
nah its like
that’s what she said?
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
lol.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
sue, cubbiegirl, slcathema and i are in love with geo
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
really?
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
only a little
no one as much as madison!
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
I wouldn't say that
sue369 - July 4, 2008
actually truth be known
Sue might rate ahead of me. She got his jersey last fall
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
lol!
I need one of those.
Badly.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
Maybe I should
wear it tomorrow. :D
sue369 - July 4, 2008
me too
I still haven’t worn mine yet
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
Then let's wear them tomorrow.
sue369 - July 4, 2008
you gonna just wear it for game or all day?
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
You'll have to tell us if it's lucky!!!
slcathena - July 4, 2008
i've only owned one jersey
in my whole life: walter payton.
unless someone can match sweetness, i’m not buying another one.
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
That's a great jersey to own.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
That's a pretty darn good one to have. Home blue?
northsider - July 4, 2008
yep
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
So what will you do if Favre signs with the Bears?
((Know it won’t happen, just trying to be provocative))
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
giggles @ the thought of how cubbie girl is squirming right now
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
be conflicted
and pretend i dont know it happened. :-P
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
It'd be pretty hard to look at Favre and pretend he was Rexy
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
giggling more @ how she is squirming
@ the mere thought
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
ahh, pays to be the blind one.
lol
altho someone might have to give favre eyebrow lessons those are some legendary brows to live up too..
if it happens
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
Sorry, hope that didn't come across as insensitive
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
I just know how much she HATES Farve
and me being a Packer fan I had to egg you on a bit.
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
dude
it takes a LOT to offend me. :-)
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
If he wins, great.
But with his fetish for interceptions now, I doubt he would.
northsider - July 4, 2008
and how poorly he preformed in the
cold last year… the chicago game and then the playoff game…
all those games are catching up w/ the old man
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
Good choice!
Bump Bailey - July 4, 2008
I've just got a road jersey
with no name. Don’t have a favorite player. The only other jersey I’ve had is a Grant Hill Pistons Jersey
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
I got the jersey at second hand store
it didnt have a name on so I got Geo’s
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
He's earned it. :D
slcathena - July 4, 2008
i thought you'd love Eyre
being from Utah and all
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
really?
you don’t say…:)
Bump Bailey - July 4, 2008
only b/c both of you love him does that actually work as a TWSS
LOL
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
Actually, it's a TWSHHS
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
lol
sue369 - July 4, 2008
Never mind...that didn't work at all
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
lol!
slcathena - July 4, 2008
loud lets go cubbies
chant during the commerial break on gameday audio
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
loud on tv too..
Bump Bailey - July 4, 2008
I love hearing that at Busch
Barkman - July 4, 2008
Jimmy
Golden Sombrero.
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
only three K's
“only”
Unrestricted View - July 4, 2008
my bad
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
Soto singles up the middle
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
Nice 3 for 3 today
Unrestricted View - July 4, 2008
cocknfire knows the future!
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
Oh, so now you're talking to me
I’m just good for information, is that it?
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
i was talking about you
not to you. LOL
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
you really are way ahead
geo just got his hit for me
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
Good night for Soto
cubbierc - July 4, 2008
Nice job Geo!
slcathena - July 4, 2008
TWSS
sue369 - July 4, 2008
there, more convincing that time lol
UTCUBS - July 4, 2008
after his game yesterday happy to see 3 hits instead of 3 ks
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
Yep.
That HR was pretty too.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
Hell, an HBP over a 3K day
Unrestricted View - July 4, 2008
Where's the DeRosa's my hero guy?
Maybe he’s still on the old post
Unrestricted View - July 4, 2008
Not sure, but we need DeRo to be a Hero here!!!
slcathena - July 4, 2008
twss
Unrestricted View - July 4, 2008
+1
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
I'm here,
but it looks like DeRo’s bat isn’t tonight…
DeRoMyHero - July 4, 2008
Izzy not looking sharp right now ... which is fine with me
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
wearing him out too
LAcarl519 - July 4, 2008
Seems he gives up a lot of baserunners against the Cubs...
northsider - July 4, 2008
I'd love a few insurance runs here.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
Nice play
Flag Up - July 4, 2008
Pujols throw is too high for the DP, Soto out at second
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
Except for the 2 HRs...
....the Cub offense stinks. We will not win the Central scoring 2 runs a game.
ronsanto10 - July 4, 2008
we'll take the Win tonight, though.
And worry about the Central later.
Unrestricted View - July 4, 2008
+111111111111111111
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
WORD!!!!
slcathena - July 4, 2008
+1
sue369 - July 4, 2008
Aaron Miles is teh suckkkkk.
Not on that play, just making an observation.
northsider - July 4, 2008
not a fan, huh?
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
Nope. haha
northsider - July 4, 2008
I'm not sure that tag caught him
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
I think it did.
His leg was high.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
i didnt think it did
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
Santo said
Miles got him
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
if Geo could have slid a foot more inside, I think Miles misses him
...too late now
LAcarl519 - July 4, 2008
Come on Riot!
northsider - July 4, 2008
Riot grounds to THE GREAT ALBERT PUJOLS
Kerry Wood in for the save
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
the future you're giving me
has had a lack of insurance. NERVOUS!
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
The only thing I have
against Pujols is that he isn’t on the Cubs.
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
+1
I know, he’s so good and not a jerk, I am so conflicted with him in a Cards uniform.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
Yeah, the caps thing is more to make fun of ESPN's hero worship
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
Grounder to the right side for Riot? I'm shocked.
northsider - July 4, 2008
Yeah does that almost as rarely as he drops a throw from Soto
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
i swore so loudly when that happened
gah! HOLD THE BALL you dope
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
Time to fasten those seat belts on the 4th of July
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
It's Woody Time
Unrestricted View - July 4, 2008
TWSS
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
TW...
Nah, too easy.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
Sorry
first one of the night. I use TWSS way more in real life than on here
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
lol, you're fine.
I just couldn’t bring myself to do it. I was thinking it.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
TWYS
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
Shut Em Down Kerry
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
Let's go Kerry!!!!!
WE NEED THIS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
slcathena - July 4, 2008
Woody is about to set the tone for the whole weekend.
Let’s get it done Woody!!
LAcarl519 - July 4, 2008
Glaus just gave me a heart attack.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
Glaus goes about three inches too far to the left to tie the game
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
Whew
Long Strike
Unrestricted View - July 4, 2008
Come on WOOD!!!!!!!!!!
preemptive TWSS
northsider - July 4, 2008
Let's try the outside corner instead
shall we?
Unrestricted View - July 4, 2008
lol.
Same pitch. ha ha.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
nah thats too easy
UTCUBS - July 4, 2008
Calm down Glaus. It got you.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
Help!
My browser just went to large print on BCB, and I don’t know how to get back to normal…
DeRoMyHero - July 4, 2008
what browser?
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
Safari
DeRoMyHero - July 4, 2008
firefox
hit cntrl + 0 and it’ll reset the txt size
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
What OS?
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
OS X Leopard
DeRoMyHero - July 4, 2008
command minus
should work
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
Bless you...
That did the trick. I have no idea what I hit to cause it, though.
DeRoMyHero - July 4, 2008
I don't believe Glaus agreed with the umpire on that call
Just a feeling
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
lucky not to get tossed right there
Unrestricted View - July 4, 2008
yep
sue369 - July 4, 2008
Glauss
Has his poutty pants on
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
Glaus Ks, one down
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
good future...
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
It gets better
Unrestricted View - July 4, 2008
The future is the past
and so it goes.
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
I believe Glaus just asked the ump about his mother
LAcarl519 - July 4, 2008
haha...yep
sue369 - July 4, 2008
Popout to Theriot, who holds onto the ball, 2 down
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
lol.
I almost panicked when it went to Riot.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
2 out, fly to Riot.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
My wife has a Troy Glaus jersey
of course, it’s got and Angels A on it.
Josh Timmers - July 4, 2008
damn
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
double damn.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
damn, double damn, triple damn, sh*t is what my grandma likes to say when the Cubs do something bad
northsider - July 4, 2008
lol. Sounds like my grandma with the D-Backs.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
Man, your grandmother's got a mouth
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
Single
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
By Molina, BTW, pinch runner
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
poop
sue369 - July 4, 2008
oh no
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
Poor Ron!
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
Kerry: Don't kill Ron
Get out of this inning
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
Ludwick
louslovechild - July 4, 2008
nice block Geo
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
geez, where was johnson? against the wall?
Bump Bailey - July 4, 2008
Nice Block
Unrestricted View - July 4, 2008
Stand-up & clap for Woody
cubbierc - July 4, 2008
twss
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
Cubs win!
Brewers tied with the Birds in the loss collum, Thanks, Chubbies.
Flag Up - July 4, 2008
Ludwick to DeRo, out
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
W
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
CUBS WIN! CLICK IT!
W: Zambrano
L: Looper
S: Wood
northsider - July 4, 2008
Man I love that song
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
I was singing
that before the game when I was out on my walk!
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
I'm playing it now! :D
Thanks Northsider!!!
slcathena - July 4, 2008
CUBS WIN
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
CUBS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sue369 - July 4, 2008
yes sir all right
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
TWSS?
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
normally I'd deny
but z just beat the cardinals ….
so it’ll get approved at least by me LOL
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
haha
everythings cool when we beat the Cards
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
GO CUBS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
slcathena - July 4, 2008
Put up the W
That’s the way to start the series!!
Unrestricted View - July 4, 2008
Yes!!
Bump Bailey - July 4, 2008
I love that dude!!!!
slcathena - July 4, 2008
love this
sue369 - July 4, 2008
there he is!
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
cubs win cubs win cubs win!!!!!
UTCUBS - July 4, 2008
The future!
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
Game over!
that ump better have security help him out of there!!
LAcarl519 - July 4, 2008
And with the win
The Cubs will now leave STL w/the division lead regardless of what happens
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
claps
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
GOOD FUTURE!
still on molinas AB
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
Madam Quinoa
says the Cubs Win!
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
A win on the road!
And against the Cardinals no less.
Josh Timmers - July 4, 2008
See Ya Tomorrow
Let’s do it again.
Unrestricted View - July 4, 2008
You bet!!!
sue369 - July 4, 2008
boy, this sets a nice tone for Lilly tomorrow!!
Go get ‘em Cubs!!!
LAcarl519 - July 4, 2008
see, you're not bad luck
Unrestricted View - July 4, 2008
I wasn't first.
LAcarl519 - July 4, 2008
These are the kind of games good teams win!
sweetswinger - July 4, 2008
Amen.
DeRoMyHero - July 4, 2008
Go Cubbies!!
It’s nice to see ‘em topple the guys in red on this Fourth of July!
oaklandSMASH - July 4, 2008
Like our pitching match-up going into tomorrow nights game
cubbierc - July 4, 2008
Me two.
2 out of 3 here would be crazy money.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
Kerry's looking more and more comfortable in the closer's role...
Kudos also to Howry and Cotts.
DeRoMyHero - July 4, 2008
Heck Kudos
to Z who pitched a heck of a game!
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
SO glad to have the big fella
back.
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
WORD!!!!!!!!!!!
slcathena - July 4, 2008
TWHNCGS!
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
thats what WHO said?
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
Sorry
fat fingers
TWHBCGS
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
still lost?
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
no. i got it now
i WAS though. :-)
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
I could always
blame this stupid Mac keyboard. I much prefer my old IBM with bucking keys.
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
Kerry
Anyone else not closing their eyes and praying when he comes in anymore?
puckishcubsfan - July 4, 2008
Chevy player of game
Z & Soto
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
Agree completely
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
Totally concur.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
CUBS WIN!!
YAY!
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
Big win
I think this win is huge. Not only will they leave St. Louis still in first but they held on to a 2 run lead.
puckishcubsfan - July 4, 2008
So that's what the Cubs look like with their ace on the active roster...
DeRoMyHero - July 4, 2008
I like it a lot.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
can't wait to have our LF back too
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
Word.
slcathena - July 4, 2008
Soriano
Can based on the last couple of weeks stop this goofy talk the Cubs are fine without Soriano? Yes for awhile but we need him if we want to go places.
puckishcubsfan - July 4, 2008
+1000
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
+1
sue369 - July 4, 2008
just wait
Till he strikes out once or drops a ball in the OF.
All the silly talk will rush back in.
patron - July 4, 2008
By next Sunday
By the time the Cubs head to the break they will be at full strength.
And then I think Hendry will pull off a move or two or three (one major and two medium ones)
puckishcubsfan - July 4, 2008
Post-Game Notes
• Fantastic return to form by Big Z. Efficient and in control of his emotions. Really buckled down with runners on base and got out of things unscathed – with runners on 1st and 2nd with one out in the 6th, he retires Glaus on an infield pop-up and gets Duncan on a roller to short.
• Another dropped throw by Theriot in the 3rd. Sadly this isn’t the first time Ryan’s done this. Sure hope a veteran SS with a trusty glove who can be used as a late-inning defensive replacement is part of Hendry’s shopping list.
• Good to see HRs as part of the Cub arsenal tonight (Dome, Soto). Puts the Cubs on pace for 180 on the season.
• Fukudome with two Ks tonight. On pace for approximately 120 this year. Not to be racist but I always thought Japanese players didn’t strike out that much?
• Crappy top of the 6th. ARam should lay off those low-and-away pitches because he either Ks or pulls weak grounders to the left side. Edmonds missed a very hittable pitch for strike three. Hard to say whether or not Soto should’ve stayed on first or taken off immediately once the ball got away from Molina. Extra runs would’ve been nice there.
• Good set-up work by Howry and Cotts, even with the solo HR to Pujols.
• Edmonds Ks three times tonight. Need him to have a better Saturday and Sunday!
• Soto goes 3-3. Would be neat if he ends up the starting C in the All-Star Game.
• Cards are a good defensive club. I wonder if they take infield before every game? Most clubs don’t these days so it would give them an edge if they do.
• Great clutch save by Woody, protecting a one-run lead. Looking less and less jittery and more and more in total control.
• Cubs win! Huge victory tonight because the worst that can happen is the Cubs come home still in 1st place after this weekend.
CaliCub - July 4, 2008
Re: Dome & J-ed
all patient hitters strike out. You take pitches and you’re going to get called 3rds. I’m not worried.
I don’t think Edmonds is going to light it up against the Cards, they know him too well, especially w/ him reverting to his old batting stance.
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
I goota say
Not to be a racist is my favorite phrase. Right next to Jews are some of my best friends.
Also, I think Fuku struck out 100+ time is Japan too.
By veteran back up SS do you want Nefi, A-gone, or that back up shortstop under Dusty, whose name escapes me?
patron - July 4, 2008
Better Than That
My family’s roots ARE Jewish!
If what I said makes me racist, I apologize. I just meant that the style of play in the Japan League was contact over striking out. So it’s surprising to see Dome racking up so many Ks – however if he was the same way with Chunichi then so be it.
CaliCub - July 4, 2008
When you take as many pitches as Dome does,
you’re bound to strike out.
DeRo, early in his career, was extremely tough to fan. That’s because he swung at the first fastball he saw. Every time, any location.
DeRoMyHero - July 4, 2008
Backup SS
I’d mention his name but Al would scream bloody murder.
CaliCub - July 4, 2008
What's wrong with Ronny coming in the late innings?
Or even starting more if and when Theriot comes back down to earth.
Bump Bailey - July 4, 2008
Ronny Has Brain Farts
that, like Theriot’s limited range and dropping of throws, could bite the Cubs in the tuchus at the wrong time.
CaliCub - July 5, 2008
Great stuff
And +infinity on the infield practice. A lost art
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
Backup shortstop?
Am I seriously the only person that’s noticed how Theriot stopped hitting when May 1st rolled around?
cwyers - July 4, 2008
Not sure what you mean...
.308/.407/.337 in May
.309/.369/.340 in June
Admittedly, no power. Certainly, not much of a glove. (I still think that DeRo is a better SS, but that’s just me…)
But, he hasn’t been an OBP black hole or anything…
DeRoMyHero - July 4, 2008
Well...
...May 1st through yesterday, he was hitting .300/.384/.329, for a .713 OPS or an 89 OPS+. I guess you can say he hasn’t been Willie Bloomquist bad, or Brian Bixler bad. But it’s not exactly impressive.
People say “no power” like it just means he’s not a 25 home run guy or something. It goes much deeper than that.
cwyers - July 4, 2008
Agreed.
IMO, he’s not an everyday SS. But, what would you do if you were Jim Hendry? We have a limited number of A and B prospects. We may need another SP. We will need another RP if we can’t get Marmol straightened out. We need to have something in reserve in case we get an injury in July. Would a trade for a SS be a priority for you? If so, who would you target?
Would you prefer Cedeno? DeRo at SS/Fontenot vs. RHP?
DeRoMyHero - July 4, 2008
Power... 'eh
You’re a better stat geek than I am, but isn’t it true that OPS, while an improvement over BA as the “one number of hitting” is not all that great because it overvalues slugging percentage? I’ve heard one analysis claim that OBP is about 1.7 times as important as slugging in terms of scoring runs, and I’ve heard people say the ratio is as high as 3. A Google search yields this: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:xjw4DH0ViFcJ:www.retrosheet.org/Research/PankinM/Pankin-sabr36.pdf+relative+importance+of+obp+and+slugging&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a
Which makes the point that I was about to make, that on a high-scoring team like this year’s Cubbies extra points of OBP are worth more than extra points of slugging by even more than usual.
Furthermore, a player that gets on base a lot and doesn’t have much power can hit in a lineup position that suits his strengths and weaknesses. The Cubs have tons of power; they lead the NL in slugging pct, last I checked. If Theriot can sustain a .384 OBP (not 100% certain) and he’s used intelligently WRT lineup position and baserunning activity, that’s not bad for a guy that doesn’t cost much money.
Now he has run into a lot of outs this year. And his defense isn’t that good. So overall the Cubs might be able to find someone better. But they’d have to pay for that guy in salary or in players. They’d have to find someone whose purchase/rental price is reasonable given their probably modest improvement in production over the remaining season (insert definition of reasonable here; you have to weigh factors such as prospect development vs. instant production, and estimate the future value of those prospects, all of which is subject to differences of opinion).
aldimond - July 5, 2008
Giggles...
can’t WAIT to go see what vivo el birdos looks like.
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
Alright, time for July 4th dinner with the fam.
See you all tomorrow!
GO CUBS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
slcathena - July 4, 2008
That was nice of em
to have fireworks to celebrate our W
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
yes it really was.
sue369 - July 4, 2008
sorry
for getting after you for your language. LOL
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
didn't know if
you were kidding or not.
sue369 - July 4, 2008
haha
I definitely was
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
whew....good deal :-)
sue369 - July 4, 2008
Turning point
I think the turning point for Kerry was getting out of that bases loaded jam since then he’s been on fire.
puckishcubsfan - July 4, 2008
What a great way
to start the weekend.
sue369 - July 4, 2008
I think Howry might have his mojo back
he looked GOOD tonight
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
I would have enjoyed a shutout.
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
Don't get greedy...
No pictures, just numbers…
A win is a win…
etc.
Off to see the fireworks!
DeRoMyHero - July 4, 2008
agree on Howry.. The key
was that he faced Poo-holes with the bases empty.
LAcarl519 - July 4, 2008
Thank Goodness!
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
I'm enjoying the win.
sue369 - July 4, 2008
FL 17, Rox 12, and it's only the 7th inning
Can you say “tired bullpens”?
DeRoMyHero - July 4, 2008
wow
that is crazy
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
holy cow
sue369 - July 4, 2008
imagine how tired the 3b coach's
arm is!
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
hahaha
sue369 - July 4, 2008
HAHAHAHA
good one!
CaliCub - July 4, 2008
The Cubs win
and the sun breaks out here after hiding all day.
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
where are you?
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
Seattle
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
Seattle
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
i love seattle in july
crazy beautiful.
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
Well yesterday
crazy thunderstoms with very heavy downpour and today overcast till the Cubs won then the sun breaks through!
Who said God isn’t a Cubs fan?
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
Mike Shannon, For One
Then there’s Dayn Perry, Rob Neyer, Joe Morgan…
CaliCub - July 4, 2008
Neyer has no love for the Cards.
He grew up a Royals fan, IIRC.
cwyers - July 4, 2008
No Love For The Cubs Either
as is the case with most of the SABR/BP crowd, of which he is a member.
CaliCub - July 4, 2008
Why is that I wonder?
Bump Bailey - July 4, 2008
What do they know
heck Morgan may have been a good second baseman but he doesn’t know his ass from his nose. And it isn’t his nose that is running.
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
Hawaii?
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
fireworks and BBQ time for me
good game see you guys tomorrow
BradB311 - July 4, 2008
for sure
sue369 - July 4, 2008
Looking ahead...
to the Giants series to end the first half, and good news. Cubs avoid Lincecum. 2 of 3 here, then 5 of 6 on the homestand to get to the break. Let it be so.
Canadian Cubs Fan - July 4, 2008
Bases loaded w/ no one out
for Matt Holiday. This game is crazy
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
grand slam
17-16 marlins
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
crazyness
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
Wow
It’s like UGA vs. Fresno all over again ;)
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
July 4, 1985
Crazy 18-inning, high scoring game between the Mets and Braves that ended at 3:30am. Then they let off fireworks at 4am and freaked out the whole city!
CaliCub - July 4, 2008
that is hilarious
someone would die if they set off fireworks at 4am near me
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
July 4, 1985 Braves vs, Mets
At around 2 a.m., in the 17th inning, Atlanta relief pitcher Rick Camp hit a two-out, game-tying solo home run, his first and only MLB homer. As the portly Camp slowly rounded the bases with a big grin on his bearded face, the TV announcer yelled, “Rick Camp! Rick Camp! I don’t believe it. That certifies this as the wackiest, wildest, most improbable game in history!”
danimal15 - July 4, 2008
slc game thread
funny stuff
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
Completely off topic: TCM has 1776 on right now
Funny musical about Continental Congress
Lot of strong language, but other than that, recommended
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
tcm?
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
Turner Classic Movies
Whether you have it depends on your cable system
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
<< no cable
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
Then rent it if you haven't seen it
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
One of my favorites, for sure!
DeRoMyHero - July 4, 2008
This game
If we go on and win this division this game is going to be looked back on as a pivotal game.
puckishcubsfan - July 4, 2008
I have 6 channels
but got netflix recently so i’ll keep it in mind
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
6 channels!
Wow! When I was growing up we got Kukla, Fran and Ollie and that was it. And we were glad for it. My Aunt only got Kukla and Fran.
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
Must've sucked to be you.
cwyers - July 4, 2008
Ha!
Shows to go what a SabrMagician knows. Kukla, Fran and Ollie was the best show ever!
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
LMAO
:-D
CaliCub - July 4, 2008
I won't watch tv enough to pay for cable
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
Hey Man,
I’m from your neck of the woods, up in Victoria. Ever been here? I was in Seattle for Father’s Day – saw the M’s and Nationals…wow, lots of suckatude there!
Canadian Cubs Fan - July 4, 2008
Nice Little City
Very British the way it looks. The harbor and Butchart Gardens is beautiful.
CaliCub - July 4, 2008
I haven't been on the Island
but the M’s are playing much better since Bavasi and McLaren have been fired. they won today.
bubbamike the one and only - July 4, 2008
I love Victoria
Most beautiful city I’ve ever seen.
DeRoMyHero - July 4, 2008
Netflix rocks!
Bump Bailey - July 4, 2008
Night all
cocknfire - July 4, 2008
night!
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
night
Madison Cub Fan - July 4, 2008
night
sue369 - July 4, 2008
Happy 4th of July to you Blokes
Even though its already well in to the 5th here.
Great Great win….I was starting to get a bit jittery about things, but this is the perfect tonic for now.
Go get ‘em Cubbies
Aussie Cub - July 4, 2008
Cold Down In Oz?
Do you guys get snow during your “winter” or just rain?
CaliCub - July 4, 2008
I've been to Sydney a
few times in the winter. No snow just rain. Temp never got much below 50 deg.
willie mays hayes' gloves - July 4, 2008
that shouldn't count as winter
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 4, 2008
Reminded me of northern and central california. Not
too hot in the summer or too cold in the winter.
willie mays hayes' gloves - July 4, 2008
Funnily enough
It was really cold this morning, but its warm and sunny ( for mid winter) now.
Im in Melbourne down South where it can get down to 40 on bitter mornings.
Aussie Cub - July 4, 2008
Got up to the Blue mountains near Sydney. It can get
pretty chilly up there in the morning too.
willie mays hayes' gloves - July 4, 2008
Oh...and never snows in any city here
I didn’t see snow until I lived in London and picked it up and threw it about….and got frostbite for my nieve stupidity
Aussie Cub - July 4, 2008
Speaking of Kukla, Fran and Ollie
Fran was part greater of “Cubs Nation.”. She did TV promos for Wrigley LadiesDays games.
sweetswinger - July 4, 2008
Melbourne is a beautiful city. A lot more
organized than Sydney. The streets in Sydney remind me of spaghetti.
willie mays hayes' gloves - July 4, 2008
Too true
Sydney= LA. Too many wannabe film stars and fakes.
The traffic is dire in both as well.
Our beers better too most importantly : )
Aussie Cub - July 4, 2008
Great beaches in sydney though. Manley, Bondi, Coogi and all
topless too. What a great place to hang out. I really miss it!
willie mays hayes' gloves - July 4, 2008
The whole country
is topless (not that Ive noticed ; ) )
Yeah, their climate and beaches in Sydney are better, but the beaches down the West Coast of Victoria are far far better…did you go down the Ocean Rd?
Aussie Cub - July 4, 2008
Never got a chance. I was only in Melboune for a couple of days.
Saw Phantom of the Opera there. I have spent mst of my time in the Sydney area. Darling Harbor and Circular Quay were kind of neat. King’s cross was a madhouse. Lots of hookers.
willie mays hayes' gloves - July 4, 2008
The Cross
has morphed from Junkie infested madhouse, to a hip junkie infested madhouse by virtue of new cool bars popping up in it.
The hookers have been there since the 30’s alledgedly.
There obviosly getting a bit old for the caper now you’d think!
Aussie Cub - July 4, 2008
Yeah, it's quite the tourist trap. I was surprised at how big the legalized
sports betting is in your country. You couldn’t turn around without seeing an ad about it. Sports in general is pretty big too. You guys really like your rugby league and footy. Aussie jock are real animals. They put their bodies on the line every match and leave it all on the field.
willie mays hayes' gloves - July 4, 2008
Well spotted!
Sport is semi religious here.
I am an ex Aussie Rules player and have had more than a dozen operations to keep on the field….and I love to punt on the races rugby footy ect.
The reason I became Cubbie obsessed was I needed a team and a sport to follow whn i lived in the US and Canada.
Then I went to the shrine of Wrigley and the matter was settled.
Aussie Cub - July 4, 2008
I loved to watch the footy matches on TV over there. The fans
are so passionate about there teams. I can see why you would end up with a lot of injuries in that game. Our guys wear full pads and they still end up getting beat to hell.
willie mays hayes' gloves - July 4, 2008
Rockies pull it out 18-17.
Something tells me that the fireworks show will be anti-climactic.
I guess the Rox can put the loss to the Cubs behind them now.
DeRoMyHero - July 4, 2008
They gave those memories to the Marlins
The Marlins had a 13-4 lead at one point…
it should be almost impossible to score 17 and lose! Wow!
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 5, 2008
Broncos 18 Dolphins 17
Jack Elam kicks a FG late in the 4th quarter for the victory.
CaliCub - July 5, 2008
I meant in a baseball game
halfblindcubbiegirl - July 5, 2008
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