If he PHs Ronny early, then he double switches DeRo out and leaves himself with no MI.
Now, he uses his 4th OF early, then double switches out his other CF. I don’t like the idea of Dome playing CF when he is struggling so much with his swing.
That was hit very well, just at someone – and the Astros did everything EXACTLY right to get that DP. 80% of time we probably score a run on that ball, hit that way.
I love D-Lee, but he has Dale Murphy disease. He is substantially worse than the 38 year old version of Fred McGriff we had… and I’m pretty sure that McGriff had technically retired at that point.
…he’s not that much “worse” than he has been throughout his career. I think we were spoiled by his MVP-run in 2005. His career OPS+ is 123, whereas this year it is 112. Don’t forget, he’s a Gold Glove first baseman. I get a bit pissy at all the D.Lee naysayers.
than anyone else on the team. He gets more opportunities to hit with men on base than just about anyone else. His previous GIDP high was 18 in 2001, and now he’s got 25. That is significantly more, but let’s be real people. He’s lock-solid at first base – would you rather have another defender @ 1B in a tight game? He’s a field general and one of the best guys on the team. But if you wanna look at stats, give the whole picture, damnit.
Isn’t he top 5 in league in driving in game-winning runs or whatever that defunct stat was called? It isn’t a late-game clutch issue, let’s not confuse it. The guy just hits a ton of GP and, unfortunately, it is harder to stomach because he is no longer the 30 HR guy he was. I mean his numbers are basically the same as DeRosa’s.
It seems as though we just can’t beat some teams consistently. I would lump the astros in that bunch. It appears that Lee (albeit injured), Pence, Tejada, and whoever their catcher is (Ausmus, new guy, whoever they start) just owns the cubs. They get up to play us. Period. I look forward to being done with this series. Yuck.
Lee should be down in the order. Riot should bat #2 and play SS. He’s having his career year, and his defense isn’t so horrible that a change is necessary.
I’d say “Look, I don’t care what you hit at AAA, you are to choke up and make contact. Forget the hero crap and just take a nice, sweet swing and make contact.”
But the Cubs are notorious for swooning. There is no curse, but when things start going bad, it seems to get into players’ heads (Alex Gonzalez, cough!).
this team is as complete as we’ve seen in a long time. I’ve absolutely ZERO worries that a losing streak of four or five games negates the hard work done over the past 4 months.
You make an "ass" out of "u" and "me" when you assume
I never said any such thing, in fact, I won’t even talk playoffs until we are assured to be in them, with an opponent. But I do not want to say “Gosh, gee, jolly, we have a 4.5 game lead, that’s okay!” We still have 6 games against the Cards, 3 against the Mets, and 6 against the Brewers. I want to WIN now and BIG so we aren’t scoreboard watching 24/7 come late September.
As in, a projection of runs scored for a team depending on various lineups? I had it bookmarked at one point, but it seem to have escaped both my mind and my bookmarks.
Scoring the runner from third or from first... hmm.
You act like Lee is hitting like Casey McGehee here, when he’s a well above-average hitter on the year, just not a spectacular hitter like he was before.
Haven’t been on here tonight so maybe already said but does it seem like we play extra innings against Astros more than any other team especially in like September.
He’s not done yet, but he’s getting there. I know that Hendry is probably scouting replacements at this point, but I just can’t stand having such a mediocre offensive 1B for the next couple years.
I think he’s just unlucky with where he’s hitting the ball. He’s hitting them hard…the problem is it’s at people. Give him some time….Lee will turn it around
He’s ABOVE his pace for his career averages in R, H, RBI, BB, SO, and AVG. He’s on pace for his career averages in 2B, 3B, OBP, SB, and TB. He’s below his pace for his career averages in HR, SLG, OPS+, and GIDP, with only homers and double plays being real significant.
What the hell do you think you’re getting with Derrek Lee? Hmm? Please share with the group. It fascinates me to hear people bitch about Derrek Lee. His 2005 campaign for MVP was an anomaly, or at least the alignment of the “best” of what D-Lee can do in one season. He’s never hit more than 32 homers or had 100+ RBI sans that 2005 season.
And I haven’t even moved onto his stellar defense. Please. Stop it.
it would allow the rest of us to get on with actually cheering for our team. You’re blocking our view, what with being in front of the window, on the ledge and all.
no hard feelings, man. I really don’t care if you agree with me or not. But a loss like this can have a big effect on momentum — and that’s what many of us are rightfully worried about.
A win would’ve been nice – and could still occur, I might add. But if they don’t win, nothing changes in the standings. And, hey, at least the Cubs broked their “nothin’ but singles” streak tonight.
In a big spot, D-Lee is our worst hitter, and the only Cub in the lineup who you’d really feel OK facing. Even more so than Kosuke.
I don’t know what happened to him, but I know that it also happened to Ryne Sandberg. He just doesn’t have it anymore. Hendry is smart, and I’m sure that he’s already aware of this.
In the meantime, he needs to be batting 7th or 8th. Of course, that would be insulting to such a formerly good hitter, so 6th may be the most you can push him down the lineup. He’s just completely powerless, and he shrinks from every big situation. He’s not useless, but he’s getting there.
why not send up a guy to bunt in the 10th with 2 on and none out?
why allow Howry to implode again in the 6th?
why keep letting Lee bat with runners on when he can’t buy a hit???
But if the Cubs can’t come back on Valverde this one is completely on Lou and the lineup’s inability to hit anything with runners on base before Theriot came through in the 6th…
1. Howry pitching at all
2. Howry still pitching with the bases loaded and nobody out
3. DeRosa bunting in the 8th
And I can’t stand Valverde!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that hit isnt going to happen everytime. Just hope it happens next time. Honestly, those guys should have been moved over by soriano earlier in the inning
Mediocre starting pitching
Horrible or inconsistent starting pitching
Terrible defense at least in the late innings
Pathetic hitting with runners in scoring position
Losing any game to the Astros when Brandon Backe starts this season is pretty sad.
Thank God for the Mets tonight!
I was telling my wife tonight in the midst or my ranting that if they have to have a few games when they don’t have it together, better this month than next month.
In the back of their minds – and mine as well, I confess – they’re thinking “Gosh, you know I said in 1984 that this was the year, because they were playing so well and looked like nothing could stop them, but then they blew it. Then came 1989 and I thought ‘THIS is definitely the year’ but they blew it again. Then we got all five outs from the pennant in 2003, and they blew it yet again! Everytime they look like they’re finally going to do it they still end up coming up short”.
I know it’s annoying to be a troll and all, and I’m sorry if I sound like one now. I’m just saying that I understand what’s called the ledge-jumper mentality.
An optimist looks at the glass and sees it half-full. A pessimist looks at the glass and sees it half-empty. A Cubs fan looks at the glass and waits for it to tip over and shatter.
One repeatedly expects and hopes for an outcome that would seem to reasonably happen, but in each instance it doesn’t happen. So instead one expects the outcome to not happen, or for something to come along and dash hope again.
What I tell myself when I get to thinking this way is that 1) nothing is ever guaranteed; 2) the incidences are in no way connected to each other; 3) the instances of the event are too few and far between for a meaningful pattern to show itself; 4) go watch the Red Sox instead.
Just like HBCG said, they are double counted. If Riot strikes out with the bases juiced, and then that happens twice more, that’s 9 men left on base for that inning. Or 3. Which one is true?
No. I'm pissed about the game (which I mainly followed from Miller Park)
I’m pissed about Lou’s dumbass moves, I’m pissed about Z. So forgive me:
This is stupid. If Soriano doubles to start an inning, Theriot grounds to second to move him over, you count that as a LOB and an unproductive out? Then Lee hits a sac fly, and that’s not a productive out?
But the way you phrased your comments, it sounded like that was part of the post game discussion with Lou, which it was not. And most people here watch the games locally in Chicago, and especially after a loss, turn off the TV. Usually someone stays and gives the post game review with the press. And if a player is injured, it is important to report accurate information. That’s all. No biggie.
I really don't mind bitching about bad players, bad plays, and overall crappiness.
It’s the guys n gals that come out of the woodwork just to discuss these things that bother me. And most of them don’t have their facts straight. Argue facts and that’s perfectly acceptable. Ignorant claims are not.
In the minors – small sample – he’s got 4 ER in 10 innings of work. And his longest session in the Majors this year has been only 4.1 innings, but overall a 3.43 ERA in 44.7 IP. Not too bad.
Not sure if Lieber is ready for a starting role, considering he hasn’t been stretched out this year, but he could probably give us 5 IP of decent work. Maybe it’s a good time to rest Zambrano for a few weeks? Luckily we have guys like Gaudin, Marshall, Lieber, and someone else I’m forgetting that could fill a few starts. Guess we have to first find out how series Zambrano is hurt.
Sunday…..pressed into starting last minute pitches 5 and 1/3 and gives up 5…not his best stuff …but ate up innings
8/16 5 inninsg vs. FL…2 ER’s…Cubs lost 2-1 Close to a quality start
7/6 VS St. Louis 1 ER 6 innings …got the win
6/29 VS. CWS 7 IP 3 ER’s….quality start
6/24 VS> Baltimore 4 and 2/3 4 ER’s Bad start
So, I count 3 good starts and on 15 ER’s in 28 innings …..and this is all spot starting…no routine, rythem, etc. and pitching innings out of the bullpen in relief as needed in between.
This was one of those games you thought they would lose
I blame a lot of this on DLee. He needs to be moved down in the order. I love him and I am not saying he should be traded etc. He does not come through in clutch situations. Bases loaded with one out and your number three grounds into a double play? I could forgive him if it were a rare occurance but it happens all the time. Lou needs to take charge and move him down for the sake of the team. He is hurting us in the 3 spot. As a fan for 20 plus years I am getting that sick “cubby feeling”.
Donkeys LOVE Guzman!!!!
mmancubfan - September 2, 2008
hee haw
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Edmonds is D-O-N-E
HereComesASpecialBoy - September 2, 2008
lets goo...bottom 8 lets get it done
cubbiepride - September 2, 2008
Time to get a win.
Bill Potter - September 2, 2008
Score now or else
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
Heading to extras in Milwaukee
5-5 going into the 10th.
Bill Potter - September 2, 2008
Lets get some runs!
:-0
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
oops
:-)
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Braves win
by 2.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
I'm as shocked as anyone.
Clutch16 - September 2, 2008
thats the second game the marlins have lost like that this year
they scored 17 and lost in colorado…
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
OT: I just realized that I really miss Skip
14 years of listening to a guy will do that to you.
“The bases are loaded, and I wish I was, too!”
Clutch16 - September 2, 2008
They still play that clip on XM.
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
Yo también.
DeRoMyHero - September 2, 2008
SBN is playing tricks with me. :-(
DeRoMyHero - September 2, 2008
Is it my imagination,
or does Lou really make some clunky double switches?
DeRoMyHero - September 2, 2008
This one seems to work out just fine.
cwyers - September 2, 2008
If he PHs Ronny early, then he double switches DeRo out and leaves himself with no MI.
Now, he uses his 4th OF early, then double switches out his other CF. I don’t like the idea of Dome playing CF when he is struggling so much with his swing.
DeRoMyHero - September 2, 2008
I'm confused, I thought there was a double switch?
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
he didn't have a choice on this one
Reed PH earlier.
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
No, you are correct
Kinky Reggae - September 2, 2008
Has Dome gotten hit in the head by a pitch this year?
He always looks like he’s bailing out
Weeghman Park - September 2, 2008
No, but after his initial success
he started seeing more pitches inside to brush him back.
Bill Potter - September 2, 2008
I'm fading fast... C'mon Cubs
Emelie - September 2, 2008
TWSS
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
Fail
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
hang in there Em
Kosuke just walked
MOCubsfan - September 2, 2008
Must be a slow news night in baseball......
There’s a story up on MLB.com about the second ball that came out of the ivy.
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
With any effort, I'm sure they could find 50.
DeRoMyHero - September 2, 2008
Wonder if they ever fish them out during the season?
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
Wow. SBN is really messing with me...
DeRoMyHero - September 2, 2008
BB for Dome
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
DOME WALK!!
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
Classic Fukudome
That guy with the stupid fanpost should watch.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
He's seeing the ball better, there's no doubt about that.
And if he is seeing it better, the results will come.
Bill Potter - September 2, 2008
One of the most nonsensical diaries I've read this entire season.
Don’t know who that guy was, but he was an idiot.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
that was the longest title for a fanpost ever
i think
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Jerry Mumphrey
he was in here griping about something a little while ago
LT - September 2, 2008
I think he is in our presence tonight.
He through a comment on how Fontenot should be starting
bheidge - September 2, 2008
I saw the title and didnt even read it.
Figured it would be waste of minutes in my life I couldnt get back
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
Mets lead off the 10th with a single.
cwyers - September 2, 2008
Now it is first and third with none out.
zevkalman - September 2, 2008
Jose Reyes tries the sac bunt and reches on an error by... I think Fielder.
cwyers - September 2, 2008
he's no fielder ;-)
LAcarl519 - September 2, 2008
nope. an error by jason kendall.
zevkalman - September 2, 2008
K Colin
Let’s hear a bit more about this question you have about run error. I forgot about it, go figure.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Lemme show you the graphs.
X axis is actual runs, Y axis is estimated runs:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3273/2819761635_b03c87b31c_o.png
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/2820603806_c86a7a010b_o.png
What would you use to measure the difference between the two run estimators?
cwyers - September 2, 2008
Sori time
LT - September 2, 2008
32nd!!!! Woot!!!!!
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
He is swinging here....
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
do we know
why Z came out?
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
no and we are worried
Emelie - September 2, 2008
Not yet.
Kinky Reggae - September 2, 2008
Yeah.
You have to take someone out to put someone new in, and someone new was coming in.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Haven't heard.
Would like to know.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
That' a little scary
They haven’t mentioned him again
Weeghman Park - September 2, 2008
Can't be good that we haven't heard yet.
Usually, if it’s not serious, we hear right away.
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
Sori
walk!!!!!!
Cub Fan Mike - September 2, 2008
Yeah! B2B-BOB
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
hooray!!!
Emelie - September 2, 2008
I am always wrong....but a bogus call.....but we'll still take the walk.
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
Soriano walks
Men on first and second
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
Mets Score!
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
YAY!
MOCubsfan - September 2, 2008
I Love Me Some Base Clogging!
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Anyone still following the Cardinals W's and L's?
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
only bc I live in Cardinal territory
Their season is over
nji232 - September 2, 2008
me too, I am taunting my students about it. Probably bad karma....
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
nji232 knows this, but my girlfriend is in Rolla
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
New York scores
6-5, 1 out, man on 1st
Bill Potter - September 2, 2008
He do song about the sweet-lovin' woman
He do the song about the knife
Clutch16 - September 2, 2008
Mets up 1
miamicanes - September 2, 2008
Praise The Ghosts Of Stengel and Hodges
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Fonty will walk
I called it
Cub Fan Mike - September 2, 2008
nicely done!
:-)
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Thanks
I just felt it was going to happen
Cub Fan Mike - September 2, 2008
the Dusty nightmare: 3 straight walks!
LAcarl519 - September 2, 2008
Nice call
Kinky Reggae - September 2, 2008
Senor Scrappington Up....
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
The crowd seems a little worn out tonight.
Very quiet.
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
exhausting ball game to watch.
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
yep
Emelie - September 2, 2008
Brocail
is really falling apart here…
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
:-D
Emelie - September 2, 2008
i like that thought.
Bill Potter - September 2, 2008
Seems like Brocail can't find the strike zone
and I like it.
Bill Potter - September 2, 2008
With Fontenot up there, there is no strike zone.
DeRoMyHero - September 2, 2008
cmon scrappy
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
part 2
Zakh - September 2, 2008
don't swing at anything this guy is throwing...
LT - September 2, 2008
THEY ARE LOADED!
MOCubsfan - September 2, 2008
I wish I was too...
LT - September 2, 2008
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
It's...alive...
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Gawd, I love your pictures. How long do you spend on these?
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
About 40 hours a week.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
3-0
Zakh - September 2, 2008
Mets lead 6-5
brownbuddha - September 2, 2008
Hey - who called the Foony walk before he took
the 1st pitch?
Cub Fan Mike - September 2, 2008
BAses loaded!!
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
Scrappy Base on Balls There!
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
loaded for DLee! Hee hee!
Emelie - September 2, 2008
Scrappy Walk!
How don’t swing for a pitch or two Derrek
nji232 - September 2, 2008
bases loaded!
Alright, Lee. Just a long fly ball will do it.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
If DPLee shows up, then I will seriously jump off a ledge somewhere.
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
yeah, me too
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
no more bad karma
Zakh - September 2, 2008
Good job jinxmaster
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
Sorry.................****BLAM!!!!!*********..........Slump.......
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
somebody get the spatula
and scrape tapdeer off the pavement!
LT - September 2, 2008
i am actually in my hotel room in KC,9th floor....don't tempt me
Zakh - September 2, 2008
the lead!
giveittome
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
It's the wrestlin mask
ChicagoRalph - September 2, 2008
DLee needs to take a few
just so you know what doesnt happen…
LT - September 2, 2008
why why why
I love DLee, but when the pitcher can’t find the zone don’t swing and hit into a DPLee
LT - September 2, 2008
Patience, Lee, patience
sparky39762 - September 2, 2008
F That
nji232 - September 2, 2008
Well cut my legs on and call me shorty
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
oh, man.
are you kidding me?
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
You gotta be kiddding me!
Kinky Reggae - September 2, 2008
ohhhhhhhhhhh this hurts. DPLee
Emelie - September 2, 2008
I SWEAR TO FREAKING GOD.....DAMNIT
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
DP lee
derv - September 2, 2008
When did Geoff Blum learn to field like that?
Bill Potter - September 2, 2008
Great minds think alike!
DeRoMyHero - September 2, 2008
Lee hit into a double play...
a complete and utter shock.
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
Predictable, really...
It was an act of the purist optimism to hope for some other outcome in the first place…
Ross - September 2, 2008
When did Blum learn how to field?
DeRoMyHero - September 2, 2008
ugh
that was awful!
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
DLee
clears the bases of cubs….as they all head back to the dugout.
Cub Fan Mike - September 2, 2008
Guy with the stupid fanpost here to update the fontenometer at .908
Jerry Mumphrey - September 2, 2008
twhs
LT - September 2, 2008
Perfect use of it.
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
wha?
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
oooooh
so only TWSS can be used for sexual inuendo. gotcha
bheidge - September 2, 2008
I know, right?
Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ.
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
Nope
again you both are missing the point and just being asses
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
No.
And when did we start in with the namecalling here? “Al wouldn’t approve of it” -Sue
You’re a hypocrite.
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
Could Lee Start Uppercutting More
to stay out of those DPs?
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
WTF
how many times is that today?
Zakh - September 2, 2008
4 -- at least
sweetswinger - September 2, 2008
yep, 4
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
I just don't have
a single good thing to say here……
MOCubsfan - September 2, 2008
how about the Mets up 6-5 going into bottom 10?
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
Good point!
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
Worry about the Cubs....
Never count on anyone else to do your dirty work for you.
kcjones - September 2, 2008
but failing all else,
them doing their dirty work is appreciated. C’mon, like you’re not watching the scoreboards in september
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
OK..OK.....
kcjones - September 2, 2008
ouch.
TheTruth11 - September 2, 2008
WHY!>!>!
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
STRIKEOUT
if you’re going to hit in to a DP!
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
Another clutch hit from DP Lee
CubsBall2202 - September 2, 2008
he should start
trying to hit into Double Plays
bheidge - September 2, 2008
I was honestly banking on an Aram GS
b/c I had a feeling Lee would get an out
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
Mets lead the Brewers by one...
…going into the bottom of the tenth.
cwyers - September 2, 2008
Stop doing that Derrek!
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
ha! What took you so long?
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
TWSS....is wish.
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
Bright side:
Rami is leading off the bot 9th now
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Derrek Lee
… should not be hitting third. Just my opinion, but I doubt I’m alone.
elgato - September 2, 2008
You dare to challenge the baseball acumen of Lou?
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
I dare
n/t
elgato - September 2, 2008
Nope. Alone.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
really?
I’m that off base? I don’t think so. Make your case, please.
elgato - September 2, 2008
Derosa should be
TJ3117 - September 2, 2008
Unreal.
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
DLee
Double-play specialist!!!!
Cub Fan Mike - September 2, 2008
It's not a dream, you are not hallucinating...
…DLee grounded weakly to an infielder for a double play FOR THE 25TH TIME THIS SEASON.
Ross - September 2, 2008
Nothing weak about that grounder.
That was hit very well, just at someone – and the Astros did everything EXACTLY right to get that DP. 80% of time we probably score a run on that ball, hit that way.
cwyers - September 2, 2008
Oh....Come....ON.
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
What, you think that doing the splits like that is routine for a first baseman?
cwyers - September 2, 2008
The play at first wasn't the point.
That the ball was chopped to the left side – again – by Derrek was.
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
That is a made up number - it's gotta be.
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
+1
that ball was hit well. Blum made a nice play to his left and Berkman made one the best digs you’ll see all year.
Bill Potter - September 2, 2008
However - his preponderance
for Hitting grounders in these situations is really troubling by this point.
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
OK fine...
He hit it really hard, right at somebody… Still was a DP.
HIS 25th DP this season. That is just ridiculous.
Ross - September 2, 2008
I think he is tied with Tejada and Vlad for the league lead.
Those are two damn good hitters that also hit lots of DPs.
LAcarl519 - September 2, 2008
80% of the time I make up stats.
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
50% of the time it works every time
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
I'm running the numbers right now.
Normally takes about 10 minutes to query the play-by-play data.
cwyers - September 2, 2008
i picture a big machine with lots a beeping sounds
and bubbles.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
lol! love the visual
Emelie - September 2, 2008
And one of those Jacob's Ladder things
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
it's FrahnkenSHTEEN!
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
Bob and Len made a big deal about Tejada leading the league (and 2nd in the majors) in DPs
and he has hit into 25. Guess who just tied him for the lead in that all important category?
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
DLee was almost as upset as me . . . .. dang it
West Coast Diehard - September 2, 2008
did you throw your helmet?
ChicagoRalph - September 2, 2008
Don't worry, guys. Ramy with a walk-off in the 9th...
DeRoMyHero - September 2, 2008
maybe Dero or Soto or Edmonds, but not Aram. He is cold.
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
Edmonds' name is currently Marmol.
Ramy, DeRo, or Soto…
DeRoMyHero - September 2, 2008
Think Lou Starts PHing For Lee When It's Close & Late?
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
no
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
Revised - SHOULD Lou Start PHing for Lee When Close & Late?
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
with who?
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Hoff?
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
srsly?
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
I'm A Daring Thinker, What Can I Say?
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
dude that one is a bit out there....
off the ledge :)
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
no.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
I bet Hoffpauir could have at least hit a flyball there or struck out, anything that doesnt involve
making 2 outs with 1 swing which is derrek’s trademark
CubsBall2202 - September 2, 2008
Hoff
is not clutch.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
We don't know that. We know Derrek no longer is.
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
It hurts to even read that
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
Yeah, and I think Howry becomes our closer and Ward starts playing catcher
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Whatcha Tryin' To Say, DT?
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
i don't understand....
if you are having trouble with runners in scoring position, and he has walked the bases loaded, you swing at 1-0? WTF lee? you lead the league in DPs
Zakh - September 2, 2008
Geeze....step into one
kcjones - September 2, 2008
Haha, My Thoughts Also
Take one for the team like Victorino did.
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
I love you DLEE
but you are not a 3-hole hitter anymore. The DP MAchine!
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
It boggles my mind
I see Lee’s stats, and I know what he’s done, yet some how I cannot get the double plays out of my head. It’s painful to cheer for him this year.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Does any1 have stats handy on DLEE's sluuging pct. compared with the last few years?
TheTruth11 - September 2, 2008
He's 100 points off.
I love D-Lee, but he has Dale Murphy disease. He is substantially worse than the 38 year old version of Fred McGriff we had… and I’m pretty sure that McGriff had technically retired at that point.
D98 - September 2, 2008
This year he is at .463 compared
to a lifetime. 498 His highest was 662 (wow) in 2005
West Coast Diehard - September 2, 2008
In other words...
…he’s not that much “worse” than he has been throughout his career. I think we were spoiled by his MVP-run in 2005. His career OPS+ is 123, whereas this year it is 112. Don’t forget, he’s a Gold Glove first baseman. I get a bit pissy at all the D.Lee naysayers.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
+1
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
+1
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
thanks, dan.
so wise.
Bill Potter - September 2, 2008
Don't Mean To Make You Pissy
But, man, I wish he would stop hitting all those DPs!
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
The guy has more plate appearances
than anyone else on the team. He gets more opportunities to hit with men on base than just about anyone else. His previous GIDP high was 18 in 2001, and now he’s got 25. That is significantly more, but let’s be real people. He’s lock-solid at first base – would you rather have another defender @ 1B in a tight game? He’s a field general and one of the best guys on the team. But if you wanna look at stats, give the whole picture, damnit.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Yeah, But When's He Gonna Quit Hitting So Many DPs?
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Errrr...
…I can’t find “Future Data”.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
its like he can't physically the ball in the air anymore
DC Cubbie - September 2, 2008
Lifetime Dlee has a ground ball / fly ball ratio of 1.07
This year its over 1.4. A very big difference and it’s gotten worse as the season has progressed.
West Coast Diehard - September 2, 2008
DLee
sure has mastered the art of the DP.
Kinky Reggae - September 2, 2008
Now Marmol has to pitch another inning
Thanks Derrek. Go Mets for three more outs
nji232 - September 2, 2008
great, mets closer with a 6 ERA
Zakh - September 2, 2008
Two up, two down so far so good.
sweetswinger - September 2, 2008
I would have pinch-hit with Hoffpauir right there
DPLee’s numbers don’t look pretty against RHP with the bases loaded.
Jerry Mumphrey - September 2, 2008
lol
bheidge - September 2, 2008
good thing you have nothing to do with managing the Cubs
LT - September 2, 2008
Humor Me - What Are The Numbers?
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
c'mon carlos!
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
One out for Marmol
nji232 - September 2, 2008
Aram walk-off
I feel it
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
next year
3. Aram
4. Soto
5. DLee
Not sure if that sounds better
bheidge - September 2, 2008
Agree 100%
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
I love it when Fat Elvis is upset.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
I understand that no one's more frustrated than you are,
but KNOCK IT OFF, DERREK!!!
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
What's up all.
I’m watching the Cubs on TV and the Mets-Brewes on mlb.tv. If one of these games don’t go right, I think my head is going to explode.
daver - September 2, 2008
I tell you what's up
DLee’s chances at breaking the DP record
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
Yeah, very frustrating.
He did hit that ball hard, though. And at least it wasn’t to the shortstop. (?)
daver - September 2, 2008
This is true
FWIW, I thought it was a hit off the bat
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
in play outs!
Zakh - September 2, 2008
Bottom of 9:
A-Ram
DeRo
Pitcher (Ward?!)
I’ll take that.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
but seriously. You don't pinch hit hoffpauir there. absurd.
TheTruth11 - September 2, 2008
1 down for brew crew
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
2 out now.
zevkalman - September 2, 2008
keep em comming
Zakh - September 2, 2008
2 down
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
yeah, i want to hear Corey say that MIL Lost
Zakh - September 2, 2008
Core Provus updates
When the crew loses, it’s Music to my ears
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
cmon, Marmol
keep it together.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
Two out in MIL
nji232 - September 2, 2008
man on base
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
man on 2nd, 2 out
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
Yeah, some Sept. callup just doubled.
daver - September 2, 2008
Pinch hitting for Lee?
Isn’t he top 5 in league in driving in game-winning runs or whatever that defunct stat was called? It isn’t a late-game clutch issue, let’s not confuse it. The guy just hits a ton of GP and, unfortunately, it is harder to stomach because he is no longer the 30 HR guy he was. I mean his numbers are basically the same as DeRosa’s.
BeltwayCubsFan - September 2, 2008
What's worse
Lee pinch hitting for Hoffpauir or Lou leaving Howry in with 3 runs in, 0 outs and 1 on?
mmancubfan - September 2, 2008
He might be.....
But he’s about 25th in the league in RBI’s and has probably 2nd or 3rd most at bats…and it’s not like those at bats are coming w/the bases empty
kcjones - September 2, 2008
2nd or 3rd most ab's in the NL
kcjones - September 2, 2008
He's horrific with 2 outs and RISP.
As in, 51 OPS+ horrific. He’s a shell of the guy we used to have, and frankly, the Cubs need to start thinking about their 2010 1B.
D98 - September 2, 2008
You are correct about Lee's numbers being the same as DeRo's.
The tough part about that statement is that DeRo’s production comes from several different positions that are all more difficult than 1B.
DeRoMyHero - September 2, 2008
Yes...and also in at least 50 fewer at bats
kcjones - September 2, 2008
And you're forgetting one key point...
this is DeRosa’s CAREER YEAR. This is just business as regular for Lee, sans the GIDPs.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
out
Zakh - September 2, 2008
MIL man on 2nd, 2 outs
pjanisch - September 2, 2008
Runner on second two out for Brewers in the ninth
Come on Mets
nji232 - September 2, 2008
You CAN DO IT
Zakh - September 2, 2008
what is up with pence's batting stance/
is he allergic to standing still??
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Tejada's is funky too
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
wow
I felt that breeze through my TV!
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
The 2005 DLEE
was an aberration. If Lou is batting him where he needs to drive the ball – he HAS to perform. I hope he can get on a roll again soon.
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
son of a...
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
OMFGKMN
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
Seriously, can something please go right?
daver - September 2, 2008
Cubs walk-off?
maybe by the guy who whiffed on the ground ball?
Bill Potter - September 2, 2008
he'd be the one.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
Sold American!
daver - September 2, 2008
You mean...
besides the HRs and we’ve hit tonight?
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
I can't believe I'm
rooting for the Mets…
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
thank goodness... Pence screws up
Emelie - September 2, 2008
CEDENO!
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
What?
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
he's swearing
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
shades of Gonzalez
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
If I Ever Meet Hunter Pence
I’m gonna punch him in the mouth.
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
and Tejada too.
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
+1
nji232 - September 2, 2008
How tall are you?
You might have to jump.
daver - September 2, 2008
haha
then I’ll kick him in the cubes.
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
and I'll pounch him in the balls
ChicagoRalph - September 2, 2008
Lucky Break
Hunter is Hella Fast
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
Cartman, would you STOP saying "hella"?!?!
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
http://cartmanhella.ytmnd.com/
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
Kinda runs like Scotty Pods during 05
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
I was thinking that
TheTruth11 - September 2, 2008
Its okay Carlos...
just get one more out and we’re okay…
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
a lazy pop up
Emelie - September 2, 2008
Soriano did nothing to back up ARAM
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
2 on 2 out in milwaukee
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
Brad Nelson with a double for the brewers
thats right Brad friggin Nelson
bheidge - September 2, 2008
he's still playing?
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
MIL men on 1st and 2nd, 2 outs
pjanisch - September 2, 2008
Do Not Underestimate the Destructive Power of Rickie Weeks
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
weeks up 2 out 2 on....he is 4-5
Zakh - September 2, 2008
Be Weak...
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
he's due
to…ummmm….make an out?
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
I don't know what to make of this but....
It seems as though we just can’t beat some teams consistently. I would lump the astros in that bunch. It appears that Lee (albeit injured), Pence, Tejada, and whoever their catcher is (Ausmus, new guy, whoever they start) just owns the cubs. They get up to play us. Period. I look forward to being done with this series. Yuck.
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
um...
Game’s not over yet. Haven’t lost yet. Marmol with a K.
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
Unfortunately, we have to got back down there for one more series
Clutch16 - September 2, 2008
If the Astros were in the NL West, they'd be winning the division
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Forget about the curveball, Ricky
throw him the heater!
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
"this is driving me crazy" long sigh per Ronnie
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
CARLOS!!!
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
K!!!!!
yes!!!!
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
GET A RUN.....NOW.....PRETTY PLEASE
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
Carlos Marmol, you complete me.
daver - September 2, 2008
Slow down there, Tiger
At least get a dinner out of him, first.
Clutch16 - September 2, 2008
that's inappropriate
You have no proof that Marmol or Daver is gay. You’re being childish and wrong. Stop being an ass.
/sarcasm
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
high cheese!
sit DOWN!
MOCubsfan - September 2, 2008
too much stress
Zakh - September 2, 2008
I'll say
Emelie - September 2, 2008
Anyone else hate the bottom of the 9th?
nerves…
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
nerves and droopy eyelids are not a good combo
Emelie - September 2, 2008
I like when the game ends in that frame at Wrigley
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
I feel a walk-off coming!
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
me too
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
Legend of the Seeker, Debuts 11.1.08, Cancelled 11.15.08
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
Oooooh.....I am a new series troll....
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
Donkey?
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
A-Ram walk off
PUH-LEEZ
West Coast Diehard - September 2, 2008
1-2 on Weeks
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
oy vey
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
inches from a double
DC Cubbie - September 2, 2008
What????
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
A foul ball -- INCHES from a freakin' double. Whew. That was close.
zevkalman - September 2, 2008
yup
daver - September 2, 2008
screaming liner just foul down third
RICKIE WEEKS IS ARMAGEDDON!!!
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
Brewers lose!
LT - September 2, 2008
Now Cubs
keep up your end of the bargain
LT - September 2, 2008
METS WIN
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
YES!!!
BREWERS LOSE!! Now let’s finish off this night right.
daver - September 2, 2008
strike this bitch out!
Zakh - September 2, 2008
everyone repeat after me:
“THERE WILL BE NO TENTH INNING.”
Let’s end this now.
LAcarl519 - September 2, 2008
Mets
hold on!
sweetswinger - September 2, 2008
Brewers lose
DC Cubbie - September 2, 2008
So...the big ? is....
Where do you fit Lee and the Riot in? (I like their bats in the order)
The premise(s) are…Lee doesn’t bat 3rd anymore and the Riot doesn’t play SS anymore…
kcjones - September 2, 2008
At the moment, they're the best options.
Lee should be down in the order. Riot should bat #2 and play SS. He’s having his career year, and his defense isn’t so horrible that a change is necessary.
D98 - September 2, 2008
tie game?
pjanisch - September 2, 2008
Brewers Lose
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
holy poop
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
Uh... Aram,
Hit that a lil straighter pls.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
Throw that one again
please?
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
I got excited for a second!
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
TWSS
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
TWHS!!
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
about 2 innings ago i thought we were going to lose a game....
now we can pick one up!!!! hell yeah!
Zakh - September 2, 2008
How is ANYONE in that joint sitting down right now?!?
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
Think the crowd is worn out.
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
then they suck
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
this game has been exhausting
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
yeah it has
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
it must be the anticipation of 90210
LAcarl519 - September 2, 2008
Lovely sentiment.
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
Would you be sitting at that moment?
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
Where is the spilled beer pic that I love to see??
LT - September 2, 2008
i know, pat almost made me shart myself
Zakh - September 2, 2008
that big dude behind home si scaring me
DC Cubbie - September 2, 2008
BB
Take it.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
I will take it....
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
winning run on base!
Emelie - September 2, 2008
now there's a start
Bill Potter - September 2, 2008
Rami
walks.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
NICE BB
sac?
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
Winning Run On!
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Aram BB
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
Walk!
DeRo time
nji232 - September 2, 2008
Hang on Em!!!
Rami walks!
MOCubsfan - September 2, 2008
Brew crew lose
West Coast Diehard - September 2, 2008
Bunting?
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
how about an aram steal?
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
bunt?
Zakh - September 2, 2008
DAMMIT!
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
Here we go gentlemen
pjanisch - September 2, 2008
I think Miggy was on the bag.
He went all ballerina right there.
daver - September 2, 2008
Questionable call
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
or not.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
actually was a good call....
LT - September 2, 2008
yeah, not really
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
POS
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
lucky bastards....damn
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
Are we serious right now?
We’re gonna have DeRo bunt there?
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
crud. I see extra innings.
Emelie - September 2, 2008
I hate ...
Miguel Tejada. Flat hate him.
elgato - September 2, 2008
+1
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
agreed
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
The b12 loves him tho
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
I'm a Theriot supporter
but Tejada makes me flat out bitter and jealous
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
Bad bunt, but lucky play AGAIN after the bad throw
nji232 - September 2, 2008
Miguel Tejada has been a complete goat all second half
and he’s a darn all star this series, jeepers
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
He Started Taking The B12 Again
with a masking agent.
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Never Bunt Right Back to The Pitcher
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Why bunt with dero, he can actually hit
CubsBall2202 - September 2, 2008
Casey Mcghee the legend starts here
nji232 - September 2, 2008
Extras = BeddyBye
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
slacker
Zakh - September 2, 2008
me too, alas
Emelie - September 2, 2008
hate the lack of execution
not the opposition
BeltwayCubsFan - September 2, 2008
hate both
n/t
elgato - September 2, 2008
OPPOSITION SUCKS
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
what is going on...
TheTruth11 - September 2, 2008
What a way for Casey to make an entrance!
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
Time for some late inning lightning! Casey at the bat!
ReleaseTheHounds - September 2, 2008
i lol'ed
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
Casey who?
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
you're about to find out
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
At least it wasn't a DP
mattvegas - September 2, 2008
TWHS
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
LOL
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
Ron
Just had a heart attack.
sweetswinger - September 2, 2008
darn near it's sounded like
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
when did he make the roster?
Zakh - September 2, 2008
just called up from iowa
Bill Potter - September 2, 2008
The legend of McGhee
begns here
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
wouldn't that be poetic....
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
Willie?
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
oops that was McGee
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
I think this is a bad idea
McGeehee in to bat NOW???
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
Different hero every night, right?
We ran out of the old guys
Clutch16 - September 2, 2008
gives that pitcher 1 more thing to think about
Zakh - September 2, 2008
I'm not convinced there's ever a good time for Casey McGehee.
cwyers - September 2, 2008
I concur. First I've seen of him, and it was ugly.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
it was a way for Lou to show faith in the young fella
who’ll play a part down the stretch for us.
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
He's a guy who has hit like a backup catcher in the minors, charitably.
I’m not optimistic.
cwyers - September 2, 2008
I'm optimistic
you never know.
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
I'm sorry but
who the hell is this kid?
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
September call-up
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
Wow, they're chanting...
…“Let’s go Casey.”
daver - September 2, 2008
Why not have Dero take some pitches first before bunting?
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
DeRo was 1-1 vs. Wright,
and Lou wanted him to bunt for a rookie???
DeRoMyHero - September 2, 2008
crowd chanting "lets go Casey"
derv - September 2, 2008
tough strike right there
Bill Potter - September 2, 2008
Hee hee. McGeehee. who hee?
West Coast Diehard - September 2, 2008
OUtside corner my ass
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
that was NOT strike 2
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
But that was strike 3. Crap.
daver - September 2, 2008
He wasn't close on that swing
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
Has Geo had a walk off yet?
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
GEO... Rock it!
Emelie - September 2, 2008
should have batted Ward
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
WHY OH WHY
do rookies ALWAYS strike out?!? I mean, ALWAYS???
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
I dunno. Mr. Pie, would you like to take that one?
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
This is his first MLB at bat I believe
West Coast Diehard - September 2, 2008
OK....so what was he up there then?
kcjones - September 2, 2008
Here's What I'd Do
if I managed and a rookie went into pinch hit:
I’d say “Look, I don’t care what you hit at AAA, you are to choke up and make contact. Forget the hero crap and just take a nice, sweet swing and make contact.”
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
+1
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
Granted, I'm not for trolling, but really Lou? McGee. There?
TheTruth11 - September 2, 2008
The question
is legit.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
Not Lou's best game. Howry going in was the first sign...
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
did Pete Rose tell Lou to bet on the Astros?
LT - September 2, 2008
Yeah, that's not trolling.
daver - September 2, 2008
that settles that
derv - September 2, 2008
Help us Geovany Soto, you're our only hope
nji232 - September 2, 2008
argh
Zakh - September 2, 2008
aww, hell
C’mon, Geo.
elgato - September 2, 2008
Soto needs a triple for the cycle
which would be a fun way to walk-off
Bill Potter - September 2, 2008
they have been going around lately
Zakh - September 2, 2008
Wouldn't the game technically end before he made it to third?
I mean I would think the man on would make it to home before then.
mattvegas - September 2, 2008
Nope
don’t think so
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
I would rather have seen Cedeno...
You know, a guy who has actually batted in the ML before…
DeRoMyHero - September 2, 2008
agreed
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
+1
TheTruth11 - September 2, 2008
Thank you
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
Geo- Soto
Zakh - September 2, 2008
They could have won this
game in DLEE’s ab.
Oh well – we will not lose ground if we lose at least.
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
They SHOULD have won this
FTFY
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
We would have won it prior to DLEE's ab if Howry hadn't given up the runs
mmancubfan - September 2, 2008
Please end this now Geo!!!!
sue369 - September 2, 2008
still with us!
Emelie - September 2, 2008
yeah, it's my addiction
sue369 - September 2, 2008
crap
sue369 - September 2, 2008
Send DeRo
sweetswinger - September 2, 2008
Lou's just flat out outdone himself 2nite
kcjones - September 2, 2008
FRAK
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
breaks bat
derv - September 2, 2008
Bad Gameday Photoshop
The Gameday photo of Casey McGehee is obviously photoshopped; the hat is too big and clips off the top of his ear… Probably why he struck out.
AlaskaFan - September 2, 2008
DAMN
DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN
I have homework and reading to do Cubs, just win the game
nji232 - September 2, 2008
same here.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
so much for that bat
MOCubsfan - September 2, 2008
FARK
Zakh - September 2, 2008
Welll...Shit. Need sleep, and if they lose this game, I will toss and turn all night.
tapdeer - September 2, 2008
LOL. My sentiments exactly :-)
zevkalman - September 2, 2008
I'm almost out of beer! WTF?!? End this thing!!!
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
team is tense
slammed helmets, bats breaking.
BeltwayCubsFan - September 2, 2008
so, who does Lou bring in?
Kevin Hart?
elgato - September 2, 2008
Lieberate!
Zakh - September 2, 2008
he's in iowa
i bet its woody
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
yep
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
I was being sarcastic
If Casey is the pinch-hitter …
elgato - September 2, 2008
Woody...
Bring in the closer at home
TheRiot Police - September 2, 2008
hopefully not hart
he is not good
BeltwayCubsFan - September 2, 2008
And he's in Iowa.
daver - September 2, 2008
Agreed...
great in AAA – head case in the majors, so far.
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
but yeah, Hart would be better in this situation
Zakh - September 2, 2008
wish I could listen to this on the radio
then I’d have the best of both worlds… drifting off to the Cubs winning in extras. No FM reception, alas
Emelie - September 2, 2008
oops AM reception
Emelie - September 2, 2008
I don't get why everyone's gripping.
stil 4.5 and another page on the calendar turns. Nothing to worry about.
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
I admire your stoicism
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
+1
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
this game is not
good for my manic depression.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
5 ;)
Clutch16 - September 2, 2008
How did you know I was gripping?
daver - September 2, 2008
I Want To Go 24-1 In September!
Signed, Hank Steinbrenner.
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
+100000000
and 11-0 in October
kcjones - September 2, 2008
Ummm
Four game lose streaks, lack of timely hitting … oh, and 2003, 2004 …
elgato - September 2, 2008
-1
bheidge - September 2, 2008
lack of timely hitting?
that Edmonds homer erased from the memory so soon?
thost 3 in the bottom frame after 4 by the ’stros previous?
cmon….
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
the real worry
is that a loss here could make the wheels come off. Victor Diaz, anyone?
There is more than enough reason to worry.
elgato - September 2, 2008
Better Bullpen This Year
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
better team this year
But the Cubs are notorious for swooning. There is no curse, but when things start going bad, it seems to get into players’ heads (Alex Gonzalez, cough!).
elgato - September 2, 2008
Respectfully disagree
this team is as complete as we’ve seen in a long time. I’ve absolutely ZERO worries that a losing streak of four or five games negates the hard work done over the past 4 months.
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
I see your point
And this team IS better. The point is, they need to STAY better, and not fall apart when we’re this close.
elgato - September 2, 2008
Exhaustion, Not Mental Weakness, Is Why They're Struggling Of Late
that is if you ask me.
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
depends on the player
D-Lee — exhausted. Kosuke — really hard to tell.
elgato - September 2, 2008
Because this year - 2008 - we aren't settling.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
settling for what?
a playoff berth?
I’ll settle for that.
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
Sigh.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
you act like this is a done deal
nothing but the pennant and a world series.
you know as well as I that getting to the playoffs is the first step.
you put your horses before the cart and see where that goes. I’ll settle for hitching up the wagon properly.
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
You make an "ass" out of "u" and "me" when you assume
I never said any such thing, in fact, I won’t even talk playoffs until we are assured to be in them, with an opponent. But I do not want to say “Gosh, gee, jolly, we have a 4.5 game lead, that’s okay!” We still have 6 games against the Cards, 3 against the Mets, and 6 against the Brewers. I want to WIN now and BIG so we aren’t scoreboard watching 24/7 come late September.
In sum:
No, I never said it was a done deal.
No, I didn’t put my horses before the cart.
And no, I do not own horses. Or a cart.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
are you kidding?
Or just being unclear? You’d be happy with a repeat of 2007? Not me.
elgato - September 2, 2008
1) It’s nice to win
2) It’s nice to have a 4.5 game lead. It’s nicer to have a 5.5 game lead.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
I am feeling that they are
both tired and also pressing a bit as a team right now.
Much different team than the 7-game winning streak one.
Its baseball in a pennant drive!
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
Night, all...
Have a good day
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
good night...
zevkalman - September 2, 2008
Sleep well...
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
I don't get it. This one fails, SWL.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Makes sense to me.
Good luck sleeping after lookin’ at that dude’s freaky mug.
daver - September 2, 2008
Don't tell me you Failed at Failing twice tonight
It’s a Failathon
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
I kid, of course
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
I'm going to continue to fail
and there’s nothing you can do about it, damnit.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
fark
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
SRSLY! WTF ARAM
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
ARam Playing Exhausted
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Any news on
Zambrano?
bheidge - September 2, 2008
not yet
Emelie - September 2, 2008
Len now reporting... still don't know
Emelie - September 2, 2008
he's not pitching, if that is what you mean
derv - September 2, 2008
me have no WGN
bheidge - September 2, 2008
man
this has not been Rami’s finest game.
its a good thing derrek is a giant.
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Aramis struggling in the field these last two innings
And another clown gets us. Hopefully Ausmus starts tomorrow
nji232 - September 2, 2008
4 double plays tonight
Zakh - September 2, 2008
I Hate DPs and Ks
They’re like watching a little kid waste a full plate of food, or someone watering off their driveway while we’re in drought.
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Mets won
brownbuddha - September 2, 2008
Really???
Thanks for the new news ;)
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
At least the Brewers lost tonight....
zevkalman - September 2, 2008
Just got the figures.
Ground ball up the left field side scores a run 60% of the time with bases loaded and one out.
cwyers - September 2, 2008
Where can I find lineup differences?
As in, a projection of runs scored for a team depending on various lineups? I had it bookmarked at one point, but it seem to have escaped both my mind and my bookmarks.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Here.
cwyers - September 2, 2008
But you are cherry picking
what about runner’s speed, and velocity of hit ball?
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
twss
Emelie - September 2, 2008
awake
and alert! nice!
MOCubsfan - September 2, 2008
Unfortunately that data is not recorded.
cwyers - September 2, 2008
mmm, cherries....
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Cherry season
ended!
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
Dusty ball taking place at wrigley tonight
CubsBall2202 - September 2, 2008
No....it's senile (ooppsss...) I mean Pinella ball 2 nite
kcjones - September 2, 2008
If DRo is going to bunt in that situation....
WTF doesn’t Lee do in in the bottom of the 8th?
kcjones - September 2, 2008
because Derrek Lee is a hitter....
/sarcasm
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
Because one run wins the game right there...
…while one run doesn’t necessarily win the game in the eighth.
cwyers - September 2, 2008
But...who has a better chance of "knocking in" a run...in either situation?
kcjones - September 2, 2008
Scoring the runner from third or from first... hmm.
You act like Lee is hitting like Casey McGehee here, when he’s a well above-average hitter on the year, just not a spectacular hitter like he was before.
cwyers - September 2, 2008
good time for their 2nd dp tonight
Zakh - September 2, 2008
It feels like Z left about 3 hours ago...
this game is taking a long time…
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Did he leave because he pitched bad or because of his arm?
CubsBall2202 - September 2, 2008
He left at the end of the 5th
after 86 pitches…
we haven’t heard anythng since.
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
There was an ominous
conference between Lou and Tram and then Lou and the ump before Howry came from the Bullpen late.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
yeah
that one gave me VERY bad vibes… thanks for reminding me. :-/
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
glad to be your bleak reminder.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
have you learned nothing from the rays?
get the devil out, red!
lol
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
either his arm
or another case of lou resting him up. I prefer the latter
bheidge - September 2, 2008
Jeeez
OT: Braves 16 Marlins 14. Wow.
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
It was 14 all going into the 9th
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
And we're the ones that are stressed out...
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
you mean the 4th quarter
with a score like that :-)
LAcarl519 - September 2, 2008
K
Zakh - September 2, 2008
C'mon, Idiot Who's Batting, Strike Out Already!
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
thank U
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
No, thank U.
daver - September 2, 2008
done.
mambochicken23 - September 2, 2008
K
Zakh - September 2, 2008
okay...it's time to win this game now
I just got off the phone with my girlfriend….i consider talking to her over the phone as bad luck…but now that i’m off…cubs are gonna walk off!
aznsensation - September 2, 2008
Lou keeps talking about what a great job he is doing resting guys,
yet Ramy, DeRo, Sori, and DLee look tired and Ronny Cedeno is in the witness protection program.
DeRoMyHero - September 2, 2008
soto looks exhausted
derv - September 2, 2008
You might also be exhausted after an almost 4 hour game catching
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
Call Him Ned Piniella
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
oops, meant for Jayo's Post below
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Seriously, DeRo bunting on first pitch?
Sorry, still in my head
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
ah, but
if it worked, the runner’s on second, and then Lee’s DP is a grounder that moves him to third.
And THEN, I bet, McGeehee doesn’t bat.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
if it had worked
god i wish it had
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
who's up in the bottom 10?
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
riot dome sori
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
thanks
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Our best hitter
is out of the game after 85 pitches
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
I've seen this movie too many times before
It needs a different ending.
sweetswinger - September 2, 2008
If this year's special
we win this game. If it’s like every other year, we’ve given it away.
sweetswinger - September 2, 2008
Over
dramatic.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
the other 161 dont matter
just THIS one
bheidge - September 2, 2008
By The Beard of Zeus!
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
Upon review
I believe I miss read your sentiments.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
Not that there's any pressure or anything...
daver - September 2, 2008
High Stakes Indeed!
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
logical fallacy
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
whew
Emelie - September 2, 2008
Ok time to get a run
Thats all we need one run
nji232 - September 2, 2008
Thank you Cajun Connection!
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
riot, dome
derv - September 2, 2008
watching him pitch gives me wood....
Zakh - September 2, 2008
TMI. Not that there's anything wrong with that....I'm tryin' to be understanding here.
zevkalman - September 2, 2008
You might wanna get that checked out
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
especially if it lasts
more than 3 hours.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
TWSS
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
I need a hero!
I want to go to sleep!!
LAcarl519 - September 2, 2008
One walk-off coming up!
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
Riot ALWAYS starts a rally!
Zakh - September 2, 2008
at least ...
Kerry and Marmol have their sh*t together.
elgato - September 2, 2008
Alright... I'm giving this until 11 pm then I'm over and out
Emelie - September 2, 2008
how about a walk off bunt single with 3 errors for the Riot?
Zakh - September 2, 2008
giveittome
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
Called shot
Riot ends it here.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
ruh roh
cubs2234 - September 2, 2008
LOL - if you're gonna gamble, go all in!
daver - September 2, 2008
I thought he was due
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
No, he's gotten his one home run this year already.
daver - September 2, 2008
Well, you only missed by three bases.
daver - September 2, 2008
Just one run......
that’s all I ask.
sue369 - September 2, 2008
Remember that time we scored a run?
can we do that again? Like… now?
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Wesley "That Boy Ain't" Wright
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
that kid pitching looks like he is 14
derv - September 2, 2008
3-0
Zakh - September 2, 2008
A walk is just as good as a a hit
unless my little league coach was lying to me
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
4 pitches
= one walk.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
BB
Uh oh, that means possible steal attempt
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
Or double play
mattvegas - September 2, 2008
3 more consecutive walks please.
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
NO MORE DP'S!!!!!!
PLEASE!!!!!!!
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
everybody's tired
Emelie - September 2, 2008
including me
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
Got 'em on
now get him in!!
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
TWSS
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
Is it my imagination,
or does Lou really make some clunky double switches?
DeRoMyHero - September 2, 2008
Now everyone gets to freak out when Riot is CS
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
Dear Lou
Don’t let him steal
nji232 - September 2, 2008
"Let's Start a Riot"!
Three days Grace
Zakh - September 2, 2008
I'm geting verrryyy sleeeppppyyyy......
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
i actually haven't slept since 9am eastern Monday....
if i can make it, you can too!
Zakh - September 2, 2008
Foo-Koo-Dough-MAY
Foo-Koo-Dough-MAY
Foo-Koo-Dough-MAY
Foo-Koo-Dough-MAY
Foo-Koo-Dough-MAY
Foo-Koo-Dough-MAY
Foo-Koo-Dough-MAY
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Derrek Lee cannot hit into a DP this inning....
so we got that going for us.
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
I spite you
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
you sure!
Zakh - September 2, 2008
if Soriano walks, Dero k's.......
Zakh - September 2, 2008
i mean Blanco
Zakh - September 2, 2008
I gasped. Thought he got hit in the face
Emelie - September 2, 2008
yeah, that was rough
daver - September 2, 2008
Is it me or does this
pitcher seems difficult to bunt off of
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
ISTM We're
making it look hard.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
Hard to tell where the pitch is going...
…when the pitcher doesn’t even know where it’s going.
cwyers - September 2, 2008
ok
everybody out early tomorrow for bunting practice
MOCubsfan - September 2, 2008
Steal
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
Yeah, I said it
And am praying I won’t regret it
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
crotch punch
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
Cup block
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
What WAS going
on at first?
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
I dunno
I noticed that too. Streakers?
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
SINGLE
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
FDOME!!
miamicanes - September 2, 2008
here we go!
Emelie - September 2, 2008
H f-ing balked!!!
he balked!
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
ehh....i'll take the single
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
Nice work Dome
F Blum he couldn’t get that one
nji232 - September 2, 2008
ha ha!
nice.
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
Now that's what I call advancing the runner!
daver - September 2, 2008
That was lovely!
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
Yes!! Fuku single
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
Please don't break my heart here
sue369 - September 2, 2008
I agree w/ you
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
I love that Backstreet Boys song
Quit Playing Games (With My Heart)
(new window)
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
such a great song
bheidge - September 2, 2008
nice hit
Dome!
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
GO DOME!!!!!!!!
Jimsil - September 2, 2008
oh c'mon fonzie!!
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
dammit
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Send us all to bed happy
LT - September 2, 2008
TWSS
zm1217 - September 2, 2008
I like the usage
of the plural pronoun.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
that was a lay up
LT - September 2, 2008
damnit
daver - September 2, 2008
soriano needed to be more patient there
aznsensation - September 2, 2008
he's needed to be more patient
by and large, since the Clinton administration.
elgato - September 2, 2008
jgtrftgyh'[p
derv - September 2, 2008
dammit
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
Wow
that throw was dead on
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
no kidding
what a bullet that one was!
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Where's that guy that created that silly Dome post yesterday?
I’d like a word with him.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
oh what, soriano is immune from the sac bunt?
cmon
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
but but but
we made DeRo to setup a rookie
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
bunt*
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
Holy Shit... Bourne's got a cannon
WHO KNEW!?
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
Damn it
Fontenot will get this done
nji232 - September 2, 2008
Why swing at the first pitch?
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
he's a first pitch hitter
derv - September 2, 2008
if its one you think you can do something with, why not?
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
yabbut that pitch was high
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
fonzie was trying to be a hero
still should have been more patient
aznsensation - September 2, 2008
I was going to ask if he would be bunting......
(giggle)
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
that is funny
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
I'm not saying he should've been bunting
but he most certainly looked at more than one pitch
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
Why?
You want to stay ahead of the count – if it’s a hittable strike, why take it?
cwyers - September 2, 2008
didn't look that hittable
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
my god
it is like a return to the station to station terrible execution of last year
BeltwayCubsFan - September 2, 2008
Soriano Not Taking?
Wright seems a little wild and jittery right now…
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Blanco for Fonty!!!?!?!?
TheTruth11 - September 2, 2008
wha????
Emelie - September 2, 2008
only bc Koyie hill is up now
nji232 - September 2, 2008
I'm baffled.
daver - September 2, 2008
you and me both
bheidge - September 2, 2008
we could make a list of those decisions tonight
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
go lou
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
I hope he brought his
middle infielder’s glove.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
what's lou doing?
fontenot has been hot tonight and he can outrun a dp? questionable call on lou’s part
aznsensation - September 2, 2008
LHP on the mound
LBR not so good against LHP
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
lou has had a few
derv - September 2, 2008
it's not always about matchups
aznsensation - September 2, 2008
+1
TheTruth11 - September 2, 2008
Come on Hank!!
CubFan81 - September 2, 2008
why having Koyie Hill on the bench
Blanco can bat without losing the emergency catcher. To bad Hill can’t also play the OF
Ivy Walls - September 2, 2008
Come on Hank White!
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
I'll take 2 intentional walks here
sparky39762 - September 2, 2008
and a million bucks while you're at it
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
Hank! Hank! Hank!
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
grrrrrrrrrrrrr
cubs2234 - September 2, 2008
he must really want another GIDP
Fonty is 4-17 against LHP. Not great but small sample size. Boo Pinella
BeltwayCubsFan - September 2, 2008
down to Lee
need a walk off hit
Ivy Walls - September 2, 2008
like wow
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
HIT SINGLES, FOR CRISSAKES!!!!
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Ok Dlee can make up for it right now
nji232 - September 2, 2008
Guess what Lee is going to do...
it rhymes with round grout.
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
bite your tongue with that
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
pound trout?
that doesnt make any sense.
bheidge - September 2, 2008
Is that like pounding sand?
Because someone told me to try that once.
daver - September 2, 2008
rofl!
Emelie - September 2, 2008
I hate you were right SWL :(
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
hound doubt.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
This has been a half - of a third of an - inning of crapass baseball.
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
redeem yourself
dude!
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
Well, at least he can't hit into a DP
elgato - September 2, 2008
touché
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
Comeon D-Lee!
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
At least...
he can’t hit into another DP.
CubFan81 - September 2, 2008
i dislike Bourn.....and his stupid identity
Zakh - September 2, 2008
Damn, I need to be up for work in a couple hours....
Jimsil - September 2, 2008
Do not like that strike call
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
FWIW
I would want that call for us
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
A low strike
bs
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
that was really LOW
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
0-2
derv - September 2, 2008
Nasty pitch
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
All can be forgiven
sweetswinger - September 2, 2008
he did hit it hard last time out
Zakh - September 2, 2008
Baad call by the ump
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
wasted opportunity
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
I'm dropping F-bombs like Eminem.
daver - September 2, 2008
proceed.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
make a mistake
bomb
Ivy Walls - September 2, 2008
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derv - September 2, 2008
son of a BITCH!
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
Looks like I picked the wrong night to stop sniffing glue
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
I'm off to bed. Nighters. Beam in a win, folks.
Emelie - September 2, 2008
G'night
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
night!!
hope you wake up to good news!!
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
night Em
I’m out too.
sue369 - September 2, 2008
night both of you
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
night sue
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Adios!
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
later guys
daver - September 2, 2008
night Em
MOCubsfan - September 2, 2008
Well this one is gonna take a while it seems
Buckle up
nji232 - September 2, 2008
poop
sue369 - September 2, 2008
I'm going to watch the rest of this from bed....
TWIS
LT - September 2, 2008
How many LOB?
Mapmaker - September 2, 2008
11 not sure if it counts the last 2
Zakh - September 2, 2008
whew - 20?
derv - September 2, 2008
I blame the ump
Calling low strikes
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
Runners left on base...
will kill’ya
kcjones - September 2, 2008
my heart can not take this anymore
miamicanes - September 2, 2008
PATHETIC!
What a fucking slump.
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
team has scored
seven runs. Dunno if you can really call that a slump. This is on Howry.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
DLEE
a two-out RISP slump.
batting .220 in this instance.
Crap for a #3 hitter.
Compared to the other NL #3’s I would be curious to see how far near the bottom he is.
Not much power anymore- leads the league in DP’s.
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
Free baseball, folks!
Isn’t it exciting?
Clutch16 - September 2, 2008
not when it's late and people need to get to bed
aznsensation - September 2, 2008
wood again?
Zakh - September 2, 2008
twss
zevkalman - September 2, 2008
Too easy...
But I like the fact that all of our names start with “Z.”
zm1217 - September 2, 2008
might be time
… to bring back the Heep Sop Choi chants
elgato - September 2, 2008
i liked hee seop choi
he had a great eye for the plate. :-)
aznsensation - September 2, 2008
You could hear Quintero
scream after the K
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
Yeah, I caught that, too.
daver - September 2, 2008
that negetive part of me wants to know
if we’re EVER going to win again…
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
bench yourself lee
CubsBall2202 - September 2, 2008
wasted opportunity
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
This Teams Needs "The Art Of Hiting .300"
Balance, shift your weight, line drives back through the box….
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Um, he's batting .291.
cwyers - September 2, 2008
You know we're 2nd in batting average @ .280, right?
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
But It's Not .300!
Anything under that sucks! Sucks, I tells ya! DFA ’em all!! Gimme nine Rod Carews and I could control the world!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
If a team averaged .300
I think the world would explode
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
And first in runs, and first in doubles, and first in walks, and first in OBP, and first in SLG...
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Channeling Yankees/Phillies Fan
“Yeah, but whaddya done for me lately? Yez bums!!”
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
it is too bad
you can see this offense stressing and getting tight. It is the kind of stuff that creates long losing streaks.
BeltwayCubsFan - September 2, 2008
Astros and Extra Innings
Haven’t been on here tonight so maybe already said but does it seem like we play extra innings against Astros more than any other team especially in like September.
ak123 - September 2, 2008
maybe in spetember, but we have played the pirates like 4 or 5 extra inning games this year
Zakh - September 2, 2008
I meant in last few years
Since like 2006 it feels that way.
ak123 - September 2, 2008
You wish Cub fans weren't paying attention, Lee.
Why don’t you go campaign for your hero?
mattvegas - September 2, 2008
So who are the gluttons for punishment left here besides me?
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
hurts so good.
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
I'm gonna hang in here for a little while longer.
daver - September 2, 2008
my eyes are blurry
derv - September 2, 2008
I'm around
And change your jersey :P
Clutch16 - September 2, 2008
Geeze...ok...
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
Thx :)
Clutch16 - September 2, 2008
drinkin the kool aid
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
yeah
i’m stll here…
games like this make me wish i drank…
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
I've got a nice warm Dr. Pepper going
derv - September 2, 2008
ill buy you one, Galvan's not here
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
I'm a sucker
for pain
bheidge - September 2, 2008
I'm still here
but I don’t know for how long.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
lucky me.
eswan9 - September 2, 2008
im half here
I want to do homework, but its a struggle
nji232 - September 2, 2008
Hopin' for a moment...
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
Spock's beard
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
You mean Kerry's beard?
zm1217 - September 2, 2008
bring it....i have been up for 39 hours and counting,
and i will be up until we win
Zakh - September 2, 2008
anphetimines are not good for you ;-)
derv - September 2, 2008
ha. i just got done watching Invasion....
Nicole Kidman had to stay awake in that movie
Zakh - September 2, 2008
Your mom goes to college
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
here
til the end
MOCubsfan - September 2, 2008
me *raises me my hand*
Im damn near water logged, don’t know how anyone drinking is making it thru this 4 hour extra-inning marathon
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
I Refuse To Believe Houston Is This Good
They just got lucky in August, and the past two nights. You cannot polish a turd.
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
watch out
Randy Wolf and Co. are on their way.
bheidge - September 2, 2008
So ...
Lou wastes a right-handed pinch hitter (Blanco) when he brings a right-handed hitting second basemen? Not a good night, Mr. Piniella.
elgato - September 2, 2008
lou
is acting braindead tonight
cubsluver22 - September 2, 2008
You've just made MDBNIU's shit list!
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
SHHHHH
BLUE MIKE MIGHT HEAR!
zm1217 - September 2, 2008
Yeah, don't say that too loud or you'll wake him up.
daver - September 2, 2008
Casey McGehee, plz k thx?
cwyers - September 2, 2008
who's waiting to watch the 90210 premiere??
Haha…:-)
aznsensation - September 2, 2008
Try THE SHIELD
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
I'm biding my time for the 2nd season of Life....
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
Wood!
Zakh - September 2, 2008
row Wilson!
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
nice
Zakh - September 2, 2008
en nickel! (Don't take any.)
daver - September 2, 2008
why does it seem Theriot throws changeups to first
DC Cubbie - September 2, 2008
better than
knuckleballs
bheidge - September 2, 2008
that little dude puts everything into his throws
Zakh - September 2, 2008
and its a good thing DLee has the wingspan
of a pterodactyl otherwise it’d be even uglier.
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
puzzled
by lou’s ignorant managing
cubsluver22 - September 2, 2008
I have a Bachelor's Party to host tom
And I plan to start it off w/ a nice win right now
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
what's the most pitches
that wood has thrown in an outing this year?
fajita - September 2, 2008
1,000,000
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
lol
BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness - September 2, 2008
No, that's Dusty Baker era stuff.
zm1217 - September 2, 2008
Lee just can't get it done anymore.
He’s not done yet, but he’s getting there. I know that Hendry is probably scouting replacements at this point, but I just can’t stand having such a mediocre offensive 1B for the next couple years.
D98 - September 2, 2008
lee can still hit
I think he’s just unlucky with where he’s hitting the ball. He’s hitting them hard…the problem is it’s at people. Give him some time….Lee will turn it around
aznsensation - September 2, 2008
It's been 2 powerless years.
It’s pretty clear that he’s in an end-of-career decline. I love the guy, but he’s fading in all aspects at this point.
He’s dramatically worse than Fred McGriff was in 2002. And that seriously hurts me to say. But it’s undeniably true.
D98 - September 2, 2008
He had a lot of power in the beginning of the season.
daver - September 2, 2008
He's just a Dusty kinda guy...can't hit when the bases are clogged in front of him
kcjones - September 2, 2008
I can't even communicate with you.
Try replacing Derrek Lee at first? Look at his stats. (new window)
He’s ABOVE his pace for his career averages in R, H, RBI, BB, SO, and AVG. He’s on pace for his career averages in 2B, 3B, OBP, SB, and TB. He’s below his pace for his career averages in HR, SLG, OPS+, and GIDP, with only homers and double plays being real significant.
What the hell do you think you’re getting with Derrek Lee? Hmm? Please share with the group. It fascinates me to hear people bitch about Derrek Lee. His 2005 campaign for MVP was an anomaly, or at least the alignment of the “best” of what D-Lee can do in one season. He’s never hit more than 32 homers or had 100+ RBI sans that 2005 season.
And I haven’t even moved onto his stellar defense. Please. Stop it.
Dan
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
I'm off to bed to watch the rest of this thing, as I drift off to sleep.
Night all…go Cubbies….
And I still think Howry blows.
Jimsil - September 2, 2008
That guy's expression SAYS IT ALL
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
+1
nji232 - September 2, 2008
If by All you mean I Need to Get this Tarantula off My Head
then you win!
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
BULLSHIT CALL!1!!!!
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
maybe I will not go tomorrow night
derv - September 2, 2008
I wish I had that
decision to make
bheidge - September 2, 2008
Tim Donaghy Behind The Plate Tonight
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Good night
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
Sweet fuck all
Reddevil - September 2, 2008
Hate to really beat a dead horse
but Lee had TWO chances to win the game – and failed.
As we’ve said – at least they would not lose ground.
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
F U GEOFF BLUM
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
There's your ballgame
gnight folks
Gibbon Jockey - September 2, 2008
Wow
Jayo525 - September 2, 2008
add Blum to the Cub Killer list
Mapmaker - September 2, 2008
omg
:-(
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
yeah, folks
nothing at ALL to worry about.
elgato - September 2, 2008
Why should I be worried?
cwyers - September 2, 2008
Clutch16 - September 2, 2008
ha ha. Alfred E. Neumann for president!
Sorry, no politics.
zevkalman - September 2, 2008
are we not in first place?
Did we lose any ground?
Do we need to worry?
The answers to all those questions are the same.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
Still, We Wasted A Golden Chance
to gain a game on Milwaukee. And you know how much I hate waste.
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
that I agree with.
I would prefer to win this game.
But the world doesn’t end tonight.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
no, the world doesn't end
But this is definitely cause for worry.
elgato - September 2, 2008
no, it's not.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
I'm seeing a disturbing trend developing
kcjones - September 2, 2008
yes
the ledge jumpers still only come out when we lose.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
A 4 game home losing streak...
is not the way to start off the toughest part of the schedule….
Whic…BTW …. is mostly on the road from here on out.
kcjones - September 2, 2008
in August
we did just fine on the road.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
August ended Sunday
kcjones - September 2, 2008
trends mean nothing to you
do they.
Hint: 4 games is not a trend
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
I just totally disagree
and I’d like some of whatever you’re smoking.
elgato - September 2, 2008
look at the standings
or get out of the way.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
ummm ...
how would my getting out of the way affect anything?
elgato - September 2, 2008
well,
it would allow the rest of us to get on with actually cheering for our team. You’re blocking our view, what with being in front of the window, on the ledge and all.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
yeah, well the jerk store called
and they’re running out of you!
elgato - September 2, 2008
oooh!
I’m going to tell Miss Othmar.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
look
no hard feelings, man. I really don’t care if you agree with me or not. But a loss like this can have a big effect on momentum — and that’s what many of us are rightfully worried about.
And with that, I’ll quit arguing with you.
elgato - September 2, 2008
Yeah, I agree.
A win would’ve been nice – and could still occur, I might add. But if they don’t win, nothing changes in the standings. And, hey, at least the Cubs broked their “nothin’ but singles” streak tonight.
daver - September 2, 2008
so otherwise, Mrs. Lincoln
how was the f-ing play?
elgato - September 2, 2008
Hey, I would've preferred a win, too.
daver - September 2, 2008
jeez
I’m going to shut up, because what I have to say at this point just isn’t cool.
elgato - September 2, 2008
Well, there ya have it.
daver - September 2, 2008
right.
I’m out, folks. I’m just too tired. See you tomorrow.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
WTF, drew?!
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Thanks Blue
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Huh....terrible strike call right before a HR....nice going blue.
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
fucking cubs
Zakh - September 2, 2008
do it to me every time
Zakh - September 2, 2008
implode
derv - September 2, 2008
night everyone
Madison Cub Fan - September 2, 2008
Enough for me.
zm1217 - September 2, 2008
disgraceful
Bullpen ruined tonight – the entire offense should be sent down to AAA for their disgraceful performance the past 6 games.
BeltwayCubsFan - September 2, 2008
the runs were there
the pitching was not
bheidge - September 2, 2008
Yeah...I'm going to ignore the 4 HR's they've hit tonight too!
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
SEVEN
Runs.
S
E
V
E
N
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
Not enough
Sorry if I am not excited about seven runs in a loss.
Ross - September 2, 2008
you're blaming the offense
when there’s one guy to blame: Howry.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
Umm ...
paging DERREK LEE.
elgato - September 2, 2008
No, see, you're spelling it wrong.
Howry begins with an Aitch.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
This loss is on D-Lee.
You cannot strand THAT many runners in the late innings. He was insanely bad tonight.
D98 - September 2, 2008
Bob Howry
20 pitches, 4 ER, 0 Outs
bheidge - September 2, 2008
NO this is on Howry and Lou
We scored 4 runs to tie it.
We would all be asleep with Howry had been pulled after giving up 3 runs, 0 outs and 1 on in the 6th.
This is on HOWRY!!!
mmancubfan - September 2, 2008
C'mon, DLee hit that GIDP ball hard...
…the third baseman made a nice play. Derrek can’t control where the ball goes. Better pitching would’ve made this an easy win.
daver - September 2, 2008
Maybe He Could Control It, If He Choked Up
Then he could hit it to the right side and stay out of the DPs.
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Disagree
He’s a major league hitter. Very often, they CAN control where the ball goes.
mattvegas - September 2, 2008
LOL, case closed.
daver - September 2, 2008
Then We Agree To Disagree
Tony Gwynn and Rod Carew could always place their hits.
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
He is the ONE Cub you'd most want to face.
In a big spot, D-Lee is our worst hitter, and the only Cub in the lineup who you’d really feel OK facing. Even more so than Kosuke.
I don’t know what happened to him, but I know that it also happened to Ryne Sandberg. He just doesn’t have it anymore. Hendry is smart, and I’m sure that he’s already aware of this.
In the meantime, he needs to be batting 7th or 8th. Of course, that would be insulting to such a formerly good hitter, so 6th may be the most you can push him down the lineup. He’s just completely powerless, and he shrinks from every big situation. He’s not useless, but he’s getting there.
D98 - September 2, 2008
He's the worst hitter on the Cubs?
By what measure?
daver - September 2, 2008
Our worst hitter?
Really?
You serious?
I mean… seriously?
cwyers - September 2, 2008
I'm convinced. You're a troll.
Not even 70 posts on BCB, joined a month ago, and nothing to contribute to a conversation.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Except hate.
daver - September 2, 2008
and idiocy
don’t forget that
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Yeah. Seven runs. Should be sent down to AAA. Uh-huh.
Do you sit around and practice being a moron when the Cubs are in a winning streak?
cwyers - September 2, 2008
It's The Anger Talking
All of us are pretty upset tonight.
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Science damn it! The Cubs got to start hitting now
First thing is first…get out of this inning Kerry
aznsensation - September 2, 2008
Well now I can go sleep
Also Hunter Pence makes me very angry
nji232 - September 2, 2008
Hunter Pence Poops On His Weiner
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
wow
we need a few days off
bheidge - September 2, 2008
yeah
i fold. lets try not to suck tomorrow, please?
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
two on none and we don't score
Then this..
BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness - September 2, 2008
S.O.B.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
how many errors Rameriez?
Zakh - September 2, 2008
he got the hat trick - 3 errors
somewhat fitting since it’s Blackhawks night
va cubsfan - September 2, 2008
3
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
Kerry gets the loss
but Lou and D-Lee should each get one, too.
elgato - September 2, 2008
you forgot howry
aznsensation - September 2, 2008
and Howry
derv - September 2, 2008
Home Plate Ump With An Assist
Wood had Berkman struck out but the ump decided it would be a ball no matter what.
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Don't worry this loss is on the whole team.
eswan9 - September 2, 2008
Howry, Lou, DLee get the blame on this one
DC Cubbie - September 2, 2008
We all have to realize
that to ALL teams playing the Cubs – it is their World Series. Specifically those whow are out of it.
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
Our most consistent
pitcher is going tomorrow.
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
Can we all agree that Bob Howry isn't a major league pitcher anymore?
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
no brainer.
Emelie - September 3, 2008
The game was lost in the
8th.
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
The game was lost when Howry went in.
kcjones - September 2, 2008
most of them are.
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
bad managing by Lou tonight
why not send up a guy to bunt in the 10th with 2 on and none out?
why allow Howry to implode again in the 6th?
why keep letting Lee bat with runners on when he can’t buy a hit???
CubFaninNY - September 2, 2008
Pull woody now
Save him for tomorrow
TheRiot Police - September 2, 2008
Pence needs to take a pitch up and in tomorrow
Mapmaker - September 2, 2008
and what exactly is that going to prove?
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
that
DaBard isn’t the only silly person on the board?
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
They don't have to hit him
But he’s WAY too comfortable batting right now. Agree?
Mapmaker - September 2, 2008
I'll Offer To Throw It Myself
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
That's all we need
derv - September 2, 2008
Pressure is getting to them
Watch Lou say Z is out for the next few weeks to rest him for the playoffs.
Just like saving Z for Game 4 last season
PhillyCub - September 2, 2008
A game 4 that never came.
mattvegas - September 2, 2008
lol
bheidge - September 2, 2008
And - we will lose 2 of 3
in Houston, where the Cubs winning percentage is 34% since 1965
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
nice.
can you give me stock picks, too?
No?
You mean you CAN’T tell the future?
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
I just want to know why Z left the game.
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
Hey guys, I just checked.
The Cubs bat in the bottom of the inning!
cwyers - September 2, 2008
can we adjust the rules to allow Howry to pitch to us?
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
I am going to drive over to the park and meet Howry at his car
derv - September 2, 2008
he's probably already left the building and headed toward the minors
aznsensation - September 2, 2008
under police escort
Emelie - September 3, 2008
and get your ass kicked?
bheidge - September 2, 2008
at least it will give him a sense of accomplishment tonight
derv - September 2, 2008
well said
bheidge - September 2, 2008
yep
It’s not over till it’s over!
renke81 - September 2, 2008
BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness - September 2, 2008
not against Valverde they don't
They can’t even make contact against him.
CubFaninNY - September 2, 2008
This is silly....you just saying this out of anger or to troll.
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
no, out of watching the Cubs against him
for a couple of years now.
CubFaninNY - September 2, 2008
i hate that cocksucker
bheidge - September 2, 2008
Really?
But it’s all scrubs and batboys, right?
Clutch16 - September 2, 2008
RALLY
Zakh - September 2, 2008
Dlee: Dont worry, we’ll get it back
Wood: I know
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
i suck at leaving
who’s due up this inning?
lets watch valverde’s head explode!
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
I'm with you!
BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness - September 2, 2008
A-Ram, DeRo, and Edmonds
Davidson College Cubs Fan - September 2, 2008
certainly doable.
drewishdrewid - September 2, 2008
Sorry, Wood’s spot is up, so a PH
Davidson College Cubs Fan - September 2, 2008
I miss when Woody hit
he could mash.
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Edmonds is out of the game.
zevkalman - September 2, 2008
Not trying to wake up Blue Mike...
But if the Cubs can’t come back on Valverde this one is completely on Lou and the lineup’s inability to hit anything with runners on base before Theriot came through in the 6th…
1. Howry pitching at all
2. Howry still pitching with the bases loaded and nobody out
3. DeRosa bunting in the 8th
And I can’t stand Valverde!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rynomite23 - September 2, 2008
BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness - September 2, 2008
Hey
Let’s just be happy that the Brewers didn’t win tonight!
renke81 - September 2, 2008
TWICE this game should have been ended by Lee.
S of a B
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
yep
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
Amen! Tremendous choke job!
Itchy - September 2, 2008
we needed a hit
he didnt get it. this is a team. move on already.
bheidge - September 2, 2008
Am I wrong or right?
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
runners on 1st and 2nd, 2 outs
that hit isnt going to happen everytime. Just hope it happens next time. Honestly, those guys should have been moved over by soriano earlier in the inning
bheidge - September 2, 2008
Could he or could ha not have ended the game with just a base hit?
Anything out of the infield.
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
If only it were that easy.
daver - September 2, 2008
If soto doesn't hit a HR here the loss is on him.
Could he not tie the game if he just hits a HR?
bheidge - September 2, 2008
Couldn't they win if they put up 10 runs in the 1st?
You’re being ridiculous. My point is valid.
Runners on base, Lee at the plate – he didn’t get the job done. Period.
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
Bases loaded and 1 out........
kcjones - September 2, 2008
and even the best hitter is going to fail
7 out of 10 times.
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
ours did every time
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
Productive out....sac fly....
Still a rally killer
kcjones - September 2, 2008
Scoring a run is not any type of "killer".
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Edmonds had the same situation earlier in the game
why is the loss not on him?
bheidge - September 2, 2008
Again - you're being silly.
If ifs and buts were six packs, we’d all be hung over tomorrow.
My point is valid. Game on the line, runners in scoring position, a 3-HOLE HITTER AT THE PLATE, and he doesn’t knock anyone in. Tell me that’s OK.
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
Nine runs given up by the Cubs pitching staff
N
I
N
E
=HOWRY is the problem. NINE RUNS!!
mmancubfan - September 2, 2008
I'm in a time warp
This game makes me feel like it’s September 1969!
sweetswinger - September 2, 2008
This game isn't over at all yet.
Heart of the order up!
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
My question: why aren't I freakin' sleeping now???? It's after midnight here.
I’m a maniac….
zevkalman - September 2, 2008
And you're dancing like you've never danced before?
Clutch16 - September 2, 2008
maaaaaaniac on the floooooor! And he's dancing like he's never danced before!
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
3-1
renke81 - September 2, 2008
I wanna see hoffpauir ph
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
K
BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness - September 2, 2008
ugh
Zakh - September 2, 2008
A-Ram Ks
Davidson College Cubs Fan - September 2, 2008
an uggla-ly night
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
Yes sir!
renke81 - September 2, 2008
this is one of those games that makes you wonder
why you like baseball at all..
Damn.
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
for nights like last thursday
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
6 straight fastballs, you are better than that ARAM
Zakh - September 2, 2008
Bob Howry is to Lou as Latroy Hawkins was to Dusty
Never understand why you bring that guy in.
HectorVillanueva - September 2, 2008
Aramis is up there with Lee tonight
1 for 5, three errors
DC Cubbie - September 2, 2008
True
Itchy - September 2, 2008
thats
Dan Uggla-ish
bheidge - September 2, 2008
One night can be forgiven.
D-Lee is horrific with 2 out and RISP. Like 49 OPS+ horrific.
He’s had a terrible season, and it looks like an end of career decline, when you factor in 2007.
D98 - September 2, 2008
Good point, troll. Lee hit .317/.400/.513 with an OPS+ of 131 in 2007. WHAT A CAREER DECLINE!
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
And now, he's 30-40 points off across the board.
Has Lee’s performance in big spots been anything other than abysmal?
D98 - September 2, 2008
Does he really have all 3 errors?
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
I hate Valverde's Stupid Delivery
renke81 - September 2, 2008
I would LOVE to know - in English - what he yells at himself at the end of a game
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
Electric Donkey Bottom Biters!
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
At the risk of stealing another poster's thunder
Clutch16 - September 2, 2008
tying run at the plate!
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
Dero Single
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
Still got a Heart Beat...
Davidson College Cubs Fan - September 2, 2008
Here We Go!!!!
renke81 - September 2, 2008
why not Mika?
Zakh - September 2, 2008
seriously. I want Hoff
RightFieldSucks - September 2, 2008
Cuz we like GIDPs
and we want DW to ground into one….
:-(
CubFaninNY - September 2, 2008
Because you misspelled his name.
daver - September 2, 2008
+1
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Because Ward is a disciplined hitter...
…and right now all we need is for Ward to get on base so Soto can do the damage.
cwyers - September 2, 2008
Valverde....wouldn't mind seeing a giant piano fall on him.....
razzpunk - September 2, 2008
97 mph
daver - September 2, 2008
Yucky trends as of late.........gosh I hope this bad streak doesn't snowball...
can we play the Pirates some more please????
razzpunk - September 2, 2008
let's tie it up and thank god for 40 man rosters
Zakh - September 2, 2008
I Will Pay $500
To whoever jumps out of the stands and cold cocks Valverde.
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
That won't cover the fine and court costs....
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
I will kick in 500
bheidge - September 2, 2008
I've got a grand for whoever takes Howry out at the knees
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
contact a Denver Bronco off. lineman...
they specialize in that.
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
isn't going onto the field
a felony now?
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Then Whoever Makes The Last Out For The Cubs
should just detour to the mound and kick his sorry ass.
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
If only Zambrano hadn't started tonight
he could pinch hit now and take care of Valverde and talk back to him in Spanish
rynomite23 - September 2, 2008
Not that I'm the fittest person in the world...
But did you notice how many overweight players the Astros have:
Wigginton
Berkman
Quintero
Valverde
What do they feed them in Houston?
rynomite23 - September 2, 2008
forgot carlos lee
bheidge - September 2, 2008
STEAK
daver - September 2, 2008
They feed them Howry Sliders, 'cuz there's no White Castle
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
and those truly make you shit your pants
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
and the lifetime ban
derv - September 2, 2008
2 Gone
Davidson College Cubs Fan - September 2, 2008
Dear Cubs this game -
BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness - September 2, 2008
K
Davidson College Cubs Fan - September 2, 2008
thats it - to bed and forget this ever happened
night
derv - September 2, 2008
Good night. Going to sleep, hope Howry is DFA'd tomorrow.... :-)
zevkalman - September 2, 2008
that's about the only positive about this performance tonight
cubsonWGN4ever - September 2, 2008
There it is.
daver - September 2, 2008
man ...
if Jose Valverde ever hits against the Cubs, I hope a pitch finds his ear and finds it good.
elgato - September 2, 2008
Our magic number went down.
santoswoodenlegs - September 2, 2008
Though it doesn't feel like it did.
Davidson College Cubs Fan - September 2, 2008
Maybe putting it on the front page will turn things around
Clutch16 - September 2, 2008
theres that...
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Which means it goes up on BCB per Al's rules tomorrow!
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Valverde gets to dance around our mound......
how soon before we PANIC!!!!!????!?!?!??!?!?!? If this continues much longer I will start to get itchy…….looked pathetic the last 4……..
razzpunk - September 2, 2008
everybody PANIC!!!!!!!!!!
well you can panic all you want. another game tomorrow. hope it goes better than this one
bheidge - September 2, 2008
Clutch16 - September 2, 2008
Douglas Addams reference - well played
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
I wouldn't say pathetic.
They’ve all been close games.
daver - September 2, 2008
Shit
Good thing the Brewers lost.
Otherwise I seeing the script of the same movie I’ve watched before
PhillyCub - September 2, 2008
Dear Cubs
BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness - September 2, 2008
Few more pictures to clog shit up?
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
no kidding
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Ha!
That image rode on my windshield on my last trip through the Midwest.
Clutch16 - September 2, 2008
Howry & Lou get the blame on this one
Why let him lose it, Lou?
Itchy - September 2, 2008
Take it up with BlueMike.
daver - September 2, 2008
worst game this season
Mediocre starting pitching
Horrible or inconsistent starting pitching
Terrible defense at least in the late innings
Pathetic hitting with runners in scoring position
Losing any game to the Astros when Brandon Backe starts this season is pretty sad.
Thank God for the Mets tonight!
I was telling my wife tonight in the midst or my ranting that if they have to have a few games when they don’t have it together, better this month than next month.
rynomite23 - September 2, 2008
Yeah, better to suffer through a losing streak now...
…than later. Frustrating stuff.
Ah, well. I’m out like a Geoff Blum home run ball.
daver - September 2, 2008
Praying to St. Jude That There is a "Later"!
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
Here's Why So Many Are Upset
In the back of their minds – and mine as well, I confess – they’re thinking “Gosh, you know I said in 1984 that this was the year, because they were playing so well and looked like nothing could stop them, but then they blew it. Then came 1989 and I thought ‘THIS is definitely the year’ but they blew it again. Then we got all five outs from the pennant in 2003, and they blew it yet again! Everytime they look like they’re finally going to do it they still end up coming up short”.
I know it’s annoying to be a troll and all, and I’m sorry if I sound like one now. I’m just saying that I understand what’s called the ledge-jumper mentality.
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
There's an old saying that goes...
An optimist looks at the glass and sees it half-full. A pessimist looks at the glass and sees it half-empty. A Cubs fan looks at the glass and waits for it to tip over and shatter.
Davidson College Cubs Fan - September 2, 2008
I don't understand that mentality...
…and I work with a lot of mentalities in special education.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Negative Reinforcement, You Could Call It
One repeatedly expects and hopes for an outcome that would seem to reasonably happen, but in each instance it doesn’t happen. So instead one expects the outcome to not happen, or for something to come along and dash hope again.
What I tell myself when I get to thinking this way is that 1) nothing is ever guaranteed; 2) the incidences are in no way connected to each other; 3) the instances of the event are too few and far between for a meaningful pattern to show itself; 4) go watch the Red Sox instead.
CaliCub - September 2, 2008
29 Runners left on base.....
Thats an offense not getting the job done……
D. Lee…2-5 0 RBI’s….
kcjones - September 2, 2008
13 by my count
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Add up the idnividuals......
The team stats often make things seeem rosier than they are.
kcjones - September 2, 2008
But individual LOB aren't what's looked in most all situations...
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
They should be
kcjones - September 2, 2008
Why?
Just like HBCG said, they are double counted. If Riot strikes out with the bases juiced, and then that happens twice more, that’s 9 men left on base for that inning. Or 3. Which one is true?
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Individual stats
double count and don’t take into account the making of a “productive” out…
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
No such thing as a productive out
kcjones - September 2, 2008
Uh
I think there is.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
so do i
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
A runner LOB is a runner LOB.....
You get 27 outs / game…..if you’re gonna count productive outs…..you gotta count runners LOB eacch time they are left on base.
kcjones - September 2, 2008
No. I'm pissed about the game (which I mainly followed from Miller Park)
I’m pissed about Lou’s dumbass moves, I’m pissed about Z. So forgive me:
This is stupid. If Soriano doubles to start an inning, Theriot grounds to second to move him over, you count that as a LOB and an unproductive out? Then Lee hits a sac fly, and that’s not a productive out?
FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL
Shanghai Badger - September 2, 2008
Where you been all night, butthead?
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
At Miller Park, Beavis! Didn't you see the title?
Was there with a Mets hat on.
Shanghai Badger - September 2, 2008
And Lou pissed me off!
Shanghai Badger - September 2, 2008
yeah
not his best game…
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Howry, no bunt in the 10th, Blanco for Fontenot
I can see not bunting with Soriano, because he’s not good at it. But the personnel moves. Yeesh.
Shanghai Badger - September 2, 2008
Yeesh about sums it up
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 3, 2008
I still think you're a butthead.
dtpollitt - September 3, 2008
heh heh heh
cool. heh heh heh
Shanghai Badger - September 3, 2008
I could 12
29 seems like that’d be damn hard to do with only scoring 7 runs in an 11 inning game.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
I could, or I count
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Chicago Cubs
Hitters AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG
A Soriano LF 5 1 1 1 1 1 4 .287
M Fontenot 2B 4 0 2 1 1 1 0 .295
c-H Blanco PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 .282
R Cedeno 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .272
D Lee 1B 5 0 2 0 1 1 6 .292
A Ramirez 3B 5 0 1 0 1 1 3 .278
M DeRosa RF 5 1 2 1 1 0 3 .292
J Edmonds CF 3 2 1 1 1 0 3 .232
C Marmol P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
b-C McGehee PH 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 .000
K Wood P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
d-D Ward PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .229
G Soto C 6 2 3 1 0 1 2 .294
R Theriot SS 4 1 2 2 1 1 1 .313
C Zambrano P 2 0 0 0 0 0 2 .355
B Howry P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
M Wuertz P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
a-R Johnson PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .307
A Guzman P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
K Fukudome CF 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 .265
Totals 44 7 15 7 8 7 29
kcjones - September 2, 2008
(seizures)
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
90210 time!
SWEEEEEETTTT
lostinthevines - September 2, 2008
Demps goes tomorrow
That’ll help….
Night everyone… may tomorrow be much better.
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Zambrano's arm is hurt according to Lou FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
razzpunk - September 2, 2008
Really?
Oh man things are looking bad.
BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness - September 2, 2008
The worst thing about the lost
is that we probably don’t have our closer (40 Pitches) or our best setup man (35 Pitches) for tomorrow’s game. Hopefully we don’t need them….
TheRiot Police - September 2, 2008
The worst thing is Z is hurt.
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
Lou does not sound very confident about Zambrano.....
sounds like Sean Marshall is taking his place and Z may be done……CHRIST that news just made this night WORSE!!!!!!
razzpunk - September 2, 2008
Whoa -
wait a minute…
Even if true – the team is gonna make the playoffs.
STILL with Harden, Demp, Lilly as the starters.
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
Dude....we need Z....absolutely need him.....
razzpunk - September 2, 2008
you're right...
i am in denial – stage 1 of mourning, kubler-ross…
The E-Man - September 2, 2008
Making the playoffs isn't the goal.
Winning the World Series is the goal. We need Z to do that.
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
I don't know what post game you were listening to
I didn’t hear anything about Zambrano “being done”. A little premature, yes?
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Of course premature.....but it is the Cubs.....
razzpunk - September 2, 2008
Cut it out
Again, this culture never will change unless the namby-pambies stop it.
Not Bruce Froemming - September 2, 2008
Then please don't "quote" things from the post game that didn't actually happen.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Especially when other people are DEPENDING on those
QUOTING the post game to tell the truth.
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Sorry but it is not good if Z is hurt.....we are headed into a road trip gauntlet....
and we sure could use our ace in the post season…..it does sound serious if the doc is gonna look him over….
razzpunk - September 2, 2008
That's fine, your assessment is welcomed.
But the way you phrased your comments, it sounded like that was part of the post game discussion with Lou, which it was not. And most people here watch the games locally in Chicago, and especially after a loss, turn off the TV. Usually someone stays and gives the post game review with the press. And if a player is injured, it is important to report accurate information. That’s all. No biggie.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
We'll just have to wait to see what the Dr. finds,
but based on Z’s shoulder pain earlier this year, this doesn’t sound good at all. In fact, it sounds pretty bad.
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
Bad news, something is wrong with Z's arm,
they are sending him to the Dr. tomorrow.
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
Zambrano's arm......we are in HUGE trouble......this is bad.....
I cannot believe it……God just stomped on our testicles big time……
razzpunk - September 2, 2008
Post-game says:
Zambrano told Rothschild that he didn’t feel good and had to come out of the game. He will be checked out tomorrow. I think this deserves a “FUCK!”.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
I'll second that.
God. i hope its just cramps again… it was humid…. ::wishful thinking::
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
I don't remember Zambrano ever saying this before
Usually they pull him out. This sounds series. And Lou sounded pissed.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
This sounds very bad.
Considering the pain he had earlier this year.
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
Lets try not to overreact yet...
:-(
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
You're right, we just have to wait and see what the Dr. says.
It’ s just that he had the shoulder pain earlier this year and that makes this new arm issue sound very concerning.
cowsarecool220 - September 2, 2008
I know
I said it for my own benefit… :-( but not good.
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
I agree...this is not sounding good at all....Z wouldn't pull himself unless he is hurt bad.....
razzpunk - September 2, 2008
I hope you're right
but you don’t send a pitcher to the doctor if it’s just cramps.
Best case, he’s back for October
PhillyCub - September 2, 2008
Streatch out Marshall and get him into a routine starting NOW
I’ll take him every 5th day the rest of the month
kcjones - September 2, 2008
he was awesome when he came off the DL in July
I just hope its not something left over from that….
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Thank God Rich Hill is available
rynomite23 - September 2, 2008
Please tell me you're joking...
Davidson College Cubs Fan - September 2, 2008
Or maybe Howry
could be stretched out into a starting role. Of course I’m joking. Humor is the only way to make it through crappy news like that.
rynomite23 - September 2, 2008
Just making sure...
Davidson College Cubs Fan - September 2, 2008
Trachsel is ready
Itchy - September 2, 2008
Pretty sure it would be Marshall or Lieber
And I kinda like the thought of a veteran Lieber helping us out on our march to the post-season
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
I like Lieber
As long as we don’t pitch him against the Reds again.
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
I'm outta here, HBCG.
Tied for the longest losing streak of the season. I think we hushed the trolls tonight, but it’s gonna be a bashing tomorrow.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Night.
Thanks for being my troll bashing buddy. :-)
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
I really don't mind bitching about bad players, bad plays, and overall crappiness.
It’s the guys n gals that come out of the woodwork just to discuss these things that bother me. And most of them don’t have their facts straight. Argue facts and that’s perfectly acceptable. Ignorant claims are not.
dtpollitt - September 3, 2008
Its the climbing out of the woodwork that kills me
names you NEVER see are suddenly everywhere and saying stupid things.
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 3, 2008
Oh, there's one I see
He/she comes in the game thread when things are going bad — hours after the game is over, and makes snarky comments.
Shanghai Badger - September 3, 2008
I digress w/ both of you.....
I’d much rather see Marshall out there IF NECESSARY …than Lieber
kcjones - September 2, 2008
Digress?
Posting drunk again, I see… :sigh:
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 2, 2008
Digress means to sidestep or move away from.
And in Marshall’s last five starts, he’s 1-4 with 17 earned runs in 28 innings of work.
dtpollitt - September 2, 2008
Liber's stats:
In the minors – small sample – he’s got 4 ER in 10 innings of work. And his longest session in the Majors this year has been only 4.1 innings, but overall a 3.43 ERA in 44.7 IP. Not too bad.
Not sure if Lieber is ready for a starting role, considering he hasn’t been stretched out this year, but he could probably give us 5 IP of decent work. Maybe it’s a good time to rest Zambrano for a few weeks? Luckily we have guys like Gaudin, Marshall, Lieber, and someone else I’m forgetting that could fill a few starts. Guess we have to first find out how series Zambrano is hurt.
Dan
dtpollitt - September 3, 2008
Don't know where you get you stats from....
Sunday…..pressed into starting last minute pitches 5 and 1/3 and gives up 5…not his best stuff …but ate up innings
8/16 5 inninsg vs. FL…2 ER’s…Cubs lost 2-1 Close to a quality start
7/6 VS St. Louis 1 ER 6 innings …got the win
6/29 VS. CWS 7 IP 3 ER’s….quality start
6/24 VS> Baltimore 4 and 2/3 4 ER’s Bad start
So, I count 3 good starts and on 15 ER’s in 28 innings …..and this is all spot starting…no routine, rythem, etc. and pitching innings out of the bullpen in relief as needed in between.
I’lll take the kid
kcjones - September 3, 2008
Lieber....Marshall.......I weep into my pillow tonight if we must have them....
in place of the Big Z……..why can’t we just coast into the post season? I no likey the roller coaster……
razzpunk - September 2, 2008
Amidst all the yuck piled up tonight....at least we scored 7 runs.....
at least thr Brewers lost……ummmm……at least we are getting this outta our system now instead of in October…….
razzpunk - September 3, 2008
WGN news
Undisclosed arm injury, will see doctor tomorrow.
Lou “Did anyone think this was going to be easy”
Well, no Lou I didn’t… but I hoped we’d have 1 easy win.
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 3, 2008
One thing to keep in mind
Zambrano absoulely stunk in August and the Cubs won 20 games.
Yes, they’re better with him — but it isn’t over if he is hurt.
Shanghai Badger - September 3, 2008
Not over
Thanks for being the voice I needed.
Hopefully we’ll get good news tomorrow.
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 3, 2008
Wow, 1200 posts for the last thread.
Guess we coulda made an overflow thread. Whoops.
dtpollitt - September 3, 2008
I was surprised when I saw that as I logged in. Oh, well.
Good night, Beavis!
Shanghai Badger - September 3, 2008
night badger!
heres to hoping we get good news tomorrow…
halfblindcubbiegirl - September 3, 2008
This was one of those games you thought they would lose
I blame a lot of this on DLee. He needs to be moved down in the order. I love him and I am not saying he should be traded etc. He does not come through in clutch situations. Bases loaded with one out and your number three grounds into a double play? I could forgive him if it were a rare occurance but it happens all the time. Lou needs to take charge and move him down for the sake of the team. He is hurting us in the 3 spot. As a fan for 20 plus years I am getting that sick “cubby feeling”.
mgfabc - September 3, 2008
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