all b/c I am out of state, but I don’t find myself obsessed with checking a TV/internet at every chance I get during the games this week. I have to know the final score though
the only game i missed was the day after we clinch but that was b/c i was busy so I was going to miss it clinch or no clinch. But i watched the whole game last night and was cheering as if it were first week.
he “frying panned” a ground ball….knocking it down and bouncing in front of him back toward the pitching mound…his reaction is to grap the ball with his glove instead of barehanding it.
Severed the thumb, index finger and middle finger on his throwing hand (I think?) and the doctors reattached them. 12 months later, he’s playing pro ball.
DeRo was asked about an All-Star "utility IF" (similar to NFL special teamer)
He said that he was not in favor of that. (paraphrase) “Utility IFers are bench guys, and bench guys are not All-Stars. I’m on the ballot as a 2B, and I should make it or not as a 2B.”
what login you use. MLB knows where you are. I actually share a login with someone in LA, and I get blacked out of games in Cincy and Pittsburgh and Cleveland (i’m in Columbus, OH)
Ward fulfills the role of lefty off the bench much better. Fonty can play second base. Pie can play all three outfield spots, and he’s way faster. I don’t see room for Hoff.
Hoff isn’t any better than Ward, and Ward has WAY more experience. I’d MUCH rather have Ward at bat. There’s no hole in his swing, and he can take a walk.
I hadnt really thought about PH taking a walk, I tend to only think about getting a hit or sacrifice being their job. But doh not getting an out more important.
I’m saying Ward, compared to other years, has not had Ward-like numbers. He’s down about 100 points on his OBP this year compared to last year. I’ve wanted him to be the Daryl of old all year, but save for two big hits, he hasn’t.
Ward is a much better OF than Hoff. (I know that isn’t exactly a compiment.) If DeRo and Cedeño are hurting, and Dome’s bat remains in Japan, that may become a factor. Also, if you carry both, you won’t have Pie to PR for DeRo, Soto, or Edmonds.
He has hit many balls hard this year. Most of them found a glove. When you have as few at bats as Ward has had this year, a couple of those hard hit balls fall in and he’s one of the leading pinch hitters in the league.
have done pretty well for the Cubs this year so far. Another guy that’s fresh, that the opposing pitchers don’t know a whole lot about can go a long way, too
I really don’t want the Cubs to have to play a game after the season. Even if they really aren’t playing a full season since it looks like the ’Stros are going to be out of it.
First!
Go Harden!
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
Good advice for any man!
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
I understand that sort of thing gets more difficult as the years go by
But apparently there are eleventy billion drugs to help out.
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
And if you have trouble finding any, then obviously you don't have an e-mail address.
Flatley - September 25, 2008
ain't that the truth
tucsoncubsfan - September 25, 2008
Let's do this Cubs!!!!
sue369 - September 25, 2008
Cubs should try and win this game
More important that Harden has a good start and shows that he has control.
nji232 - September 25, 2008
Is it raining in NY yet?
Anyone know?
Fishbone2 - September 25, 2008
not yet
but…
http://www.weather.com/weather/map/interactive/USNY0504?from=36hr_maps&zoom=8&interactiveMapLayer=radar
Chanman25 - September 25, 2008
Um how are they gonna play this whole game?
nji232 - September 25, 2008
Hopefully they will get in 5 innings
tucsoncubsfan - September 25, 2008
pitchers duel
and try to score most before the 5th inning
cubsonWGN4ever - September 25, 2008
A 5 inning game would be sweet.
Fishbone2 - September 25, 2008
I like tonight's lineup
shitty weather conditions = AAA team
Chanman25 - September 25, 2008
Great Pedro Quotes:
“bring back the Bambino and I’ll drill him in the ass,” and “The clubhouse is my house. If you break into my house I will shoot you.”
BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness - September 25, 2008
Let's Go Cubs!!!
Hey there everyone…
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
Word Up!
BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness - September 25, 2008
Hey Jimmy!!!
sue369 - September 25, 2008
Sweet Sue, the Hawkeye lady...
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
:D
sue369 - September 25, 2008
yo JIMMAY!
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
drew...
Welcome home. You missed a good first inning for the Cubs bats.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
so I hear
Hoffpauer, McGeehee… it feels like early March.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
Apt comparison.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
Is Pedro throwing Major League pitching?
Cause if he is…Pie won’t be able to hit it…or so I hear.
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
Well I guess he is
Pie Struck Out
cubsonWGN4ever - September 25, 2008
The answer is: YES
BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness - September 25, 2008
Pedro is hardly a major league pitcher anymore
nji232 - September 25, 2008
I'm going to try to enjoy the game between filing a police report for vandalism to my office. Damn kids!
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
That'll help me forget about the vandalism.... Hoff with his 1st homer in the ML.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
This thread is somewhat quiet...is everyone still at the pregame thread?
cubsonWGN4ever - September 25, 2008
I'm here...for another 40 minutes or so..
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
Nope... Maybe dinner?
Fishbone2 - September 25, 2008
Micah's Going Yard!
BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness - September 25, 2008
Who Called it?
I called it!
BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness - September 25, 2008
HR HoffPOWER!
Fishbone2 - September 25, 2008
HOFFPAUIR'S FIRST MAJOR LEAGUE HOMERUN
cubsonWGN4ever - September 25, 2008
Hoff with a homer 1-0
sue369 - September 25, 2008
Instant Playoff Roster Spot!
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
Totally agree with you
Can’t see Ward doing that right now
cubsonWGN4ever - September 25, 2008
You're wrong.
Ward will be on the post season roster, not Hoff. One HR doesn’t change that.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
If he has a hot week
He’ll make it over Ward. Lou plays the hot hand. Always. Would love to see Ward on the bench as an additional hitting coach.
cubsonWGN4ever - September 25, 2008
I doubt he'll have a hot week. I think the decision has already been made.
I want Ward at the plate, not on the bench.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
Hoff POWER!!!!!!!
MOCubsfan - September 25, 2008
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
SWL that imagine might affect my vote
Madison Cub Fan - September 25, 2008
That's scary
gwood - September 25, 2008
Oh lord no
And no title so I can collapse it. Damn you SWL!
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
thank goodness for firefox and adblock.... those pictures were
disturbing.
tootle - September 25, 2008
Which is more Disturbing?
BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness - September 25, 2008
STOP ALREADY!
Fishbone2 - September 25, 2008
Please
no
gwood - September 25, 2008
STOP!!!!
sue369 - September 25, 2008
see I don't even see
the second one.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
His weiner is wrinkly!
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
Yes, yes it is
northofwrigley - September 25, 2008
Yuck!!!
sue369 - September 25, 2008
ummm
ouch
MOCubsfan - September 25, 2008
How about that
Not bad Hoffpauir
nji232 - September 25, 2008
Ed works the walk from Pedro.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
Just signed on
this is some lineup Lou is running out there today
gwood - September 25, 2008
is everyone one
of our lefties in the game right now?
gwood - September 25, 2008
and cubs are up 2-0
strange huh?
Madison Cub Fan - September 25, 2008
WE have a very good
AAA team it seems :)
gwood - September 25, 2008
Im in agreement w/ you
Madison Cub Fan - September 25, 2008
Nice poke Fonty!!
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
TWSS
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
McGehee
RBI…Take That Brewers.
Fishbone2 - September 25, 2008
Play your everyday guys!
Wah.
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
"Who's this Mcgehee guy, are they even trying to win?"
Fishbone2 - September 25, 2008
+ English Lady
gwood - September 25, 2008
Casey at the bat!!!
2-0 Cubs.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
Suck it whiny brewers
Here we go bailing you out again
nji232 - September 25, 2008
We talked about it this morning BUT...
I hope the sweep them Booers this weekend!
Fishbone2 - September 25, 2008
*they
Fishbone2 - September 25, 2008
It will be a lot of fun to ruin their playoff hopes
nji232 - September 25, 2008
No doubt... I live in Milwaukee so it would be extra sweet for me.
Last week a bunch of Brewer fans I know proclaimed them done.
Fishbone2 - September 25, 2008
The Legend Continues
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
McHeeHee RBI!
BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness - September 25, 2008
Does anyone find this week a bit surreal?
Madison Cub Fan - September 25, 2008
I've found it to be pleasant and relaxing.
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
+1
No worries… It’s been great!
Fishbone2 - September 25, 2008
Yes
only in that I have not been as attached to each and every game as usual
gwood - September 25, 2008
Funny thing is, I didn't think I would be attached to every game But i have been.
Fishbone2 - September 25, 2008
The moment you're into the postseason
You look and see what shape the team is in for it. Not unheard of.
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
I can't watch them
all b/c I am out of state, but I don’t find myself obsessed with checking a TV/internet at every chance I get during the games this week. I have to know the final score though
gwood - September 25, 2008
I'm with you..
the only game i missed was the day after we clinch but that was b/c i was busy so I was going to miss it clinch or no clinch. But i watched the whole game last night and was cheering as if it were first week.
mkcubs21 - September 25, 2008
Even the Sunday game the day after they cinched I watched...
With all the starters sitting and NFL on. Football seems very insignificant to me right now!
Fishbone2 - September 25, 2008
I was certainly
attached last night!
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
Most certainly. It's nice not to get all worried though. I'll worry plenty in the post season.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
Pie still batting on MLBtv!
mlern - September 25, 2008
Are you running the 1.2M feed?
‘Cuz that’s way behind the 800K feed.
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
I am, but it's cutting in and out
mlern - September 25, 2008
It looks gorgeous
But the 800K feed is a lot closer to real-time, and it just works better, IME.
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
Lou's on the bench tonight too
Trammel is at the rail
MOCubsfan - September 25, 2008
That a way Micah!!!
carmen_fanzone - September 25, 2008
And that play brought to you by
The Derrek Lee appreciation society
nji232 - September 25, 2008
Guess why Hoffpauir isn't a major leaguer.....
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
because???
mkcubs21 - September 25, 2008
Good defense by Hoff?
gwood - September 25, 2008
If by good you mean below average...yeah.
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
figured as much
gwood - September 25, 2008
Not so much
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
He's a hitter, not a fielder, damn it!
:)
carmen_fanzone - September 25, 2008
HIYO!
I hear Hoff finally hit a homerun.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
At least Harden is throwing strikes...this inning...so far.
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
Damn you HOFF!
BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness - September 25, 2008
Theriot bringing the AAA glove today as well
nji232 - September 25, 2008
But he didn't double-clutch!
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
oh look
A Met on third with less than 2 outs………never seen that before
MOCubsfan - September 25, 2008
How is Harden's velocity
according to Gameday he hasn’t throw a fastball yet.
gwood - September 25, 2008
He is just throwing breaking balls in the dirt right now
nji232 - September 25, 2008
Exhibit A why Theriot isn't a SS....
he “frying panned” a ground ball….knocking it down and bouncing in front of him back toward the pitching mound…his reaction is to grap the ball with his glove instead of barehanding it.
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
But...but...but...
Scrappy! C’mon!
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
Scrappy
CRAPPY.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
I assume that is an unearned run
nji232 - September 25, 2008
yep
Madison Cub Fan - September 25, 2008
Fielders should have an ERA based on their defense. Hoff's ERA is 9.00
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
Hoff gives his HR back with his glove.
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
?
dont care about the score (Go Hoff) is Harden looking OK?
Hammer - September 25, 2008
so-so
thrown a lot of balls in the dirt. There was one ball that got away that Reyes could’ve scored on easily, but didn’t.
cubsonWGN4ever - September 25, 2008
He looks fine.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
He doesn't have high velocity
and he had a spot of trouble with his release point. He did get 4 outs tho.
nji232 - September 25, 2008
His velocity is fine.
He’s not airing it out in a game like this…
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
I'm not complaining about his velocity
I understand he won’t be going 110% today.
nji232 - September 25, 2008
I know you're not complaining.
Gotcha.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
100% from him...
….would be sick. Ill take it a few times this postseason. Next year isnt even a cookie…..its its its its its….well to me next year matters not at all.
Hammer - September 25, 2008
Gracias...
….because where I am…..Everybody Loves Raymond (OY)
Hammer - September 25, 2008
ESPN just reported
that Demp is the Game 1 starter for the NLDS
gwood - September 25, 2008
reporting or guessing?
cubsonWGN4ever - September 25, 2008
reported
gwood - September 25, 2008
Lou announced that earlier in the day.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
Mentioned on Comcast pregame tonight by BB and Len
carmen_fanzone - September 25, 2008
Those guys scooped the "worldwide leader in sports"???
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
I don't get Comcast
unfortunately the “worldwide leader” is all I get
gwood - September 25, 2008
Can we just skip the 2nd 3rd and 4th innings and go right to the 5th? The rain is coming.
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
Falling on your head like a memory?
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
Falling on my head like a true emotion?
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
are you in Queens now?
CubFaninNY - September 25, 2008
I'm just west of Queens
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
SNY telling the Koyie Hill- table saw story again
Every time I hear it, it is still awesome.
nji232 - September 25, 2008
enlighten us, please.
CubFaninNY - September 25, 2008
Had a table saw accident 12 months ago
Severed the thumb, index finger and middle finger on his throwing hand (I think?) and the doctors reattached them. 12 months later, he’s playing pro ball.
cubsonWGN4ever - September 25, 2008
There was also a note about how the doctors had him hold a ball with the other hand
to see where exactly to reattach the fingers. So he likes to joke that his hand was “built to play baseball”.
cubsonWGN4ever - September 25, 2008
ha.....no he will be a hall a famer...
…….Brians song?
BTW….these I hate Obama I hate John commercials are for idiots. YES THE VOTERS ARE WATCHING.
Hammer - September 25, 2008
He cut off 4 fingers last October with a table saw
They were put back on and now he is back playing.
nji232 - September 25, 2008
agreed..
….but not awesome…..crazy and odd. And then crazy again.
Hammer - September 25, 2008
Harden
reaches 1st on an error by Wright.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
"Gold Glove Third Baseman"
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
10 year looking 3rd baseman.
Hammer - September 25, 2008
that was fast.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
TWSS
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
Felix doing his DLee impersonation....
carmen_fanzone - September 25, 2008
That wasn't anywhere near being a GW bloop to right
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
agreed its only the second inning too
Chanman25 - September 25, 2008
No, the other impersonation....
carmen_fanzone - September 25, 2008
Better Pie doing that
than D Lee “padding” his numbers
The Original Dave - September 25, 2008
Callups not impressing much...
CubFaninNY - September 25, 2008
Pie did fine
back when the games still mattered. When’s the last time he played left field?
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
true that.
he’s no LF’er.
CubFaninNY - September 25, 2008
Score and inning please....do if for a tool.....
Hammer - September 25, 2008
Mid 2nd, 2-1 Cubs
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
2-1 2nd inning 1 out runner on first
nji232 - September 25, 2008
2-1 Cubs...botton of 2nd 1 out 1 on.
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
WTF Pie?
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
sigh.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
Not a left fielder
BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness - September 25, 2008
What flavor is that?
Hammer - September 25, 2008
Pie doing his Soriano impression now
nji232 - September 25, 2008
Pat-Pie is clearly embarrassed by that.
Fishbone2 - September 25, 2008
Soriano has taken him under his wing
and mentored him
epcub - September 25, 2008
Useless stat of the night...
Player A: 505 AB, 103 R, 30 2B, 3 3B, 21 HR, 87 RBI, 69 BB, 106 K, .285/.376/.481/.857
Player B: 615 AB, 93 R, 41 2B, 3 3B, 20 HR, 90 RBI, 71 BB, 118 K, .293/.364/.467/.830
Player C: 633 AB, 99 R, 34 2B, 2 3B, 12 HR, 79 RBI, 54 BB, 107 K, .284/.340/.401/.741
Exactly one of these three players was a 2008 All-Star.
DeRoMyHero - September 25, 2008
I'm guessing it wasn't Player A
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
Correct.
DeRoMyHero - September 25, 2008
I assume one of them is DeRo, im prolly wrong tho
Brian Roberts is another im sure, and I have no clue who player B is
nji232 - September 25, 2008
DeRo is one of the three, Brian Roberts is not.
DeRoMyHero - September 25, 2008
Player A is DeRo then
Derrek Lee is player B? Player C I have no clue
nji232 - September 25, 2008
Dome?
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
Batting average and homers too high to be Dome
He said AL player, I dont want the answer yet. I can figure this out
nji232 - September 25, 2008
Ichiro?
nji232 - September 25, 2008
Incorrect team, correct division.
DeRoMyHero - September 25, 2008
Ok I can do this
Kinsler?
nji232 - September 25, 2008
No too many ABs Kinsler got hurt
nji232 - September 25, 2008
Other side of the bag...
DeRoMyHero - September 25, 2008
Mike Young
nji232 - September 25, 2008
I completley wiffed on that one
Especially after I got Kinsler’s name
nji232 - September 25, 2008
BINGO!
DeRoMyHero - September 25, 2008
So, A: Dero, C: Mike Young,
Who is B, then?
epcub - September 25, 2008
DLee
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
Correct.
DeRoMyHero - September 25, 2008
Kinsler or Bradley then
Chanman25 - September 25, 2008
I'm sure it is player C
who are they?
Chanman25 - September 25, 2008
Player C was the All-Star.
(Hint: AL All-Star)
DeRoMyHero - September 25, 2008
DeRo is Player A as far as i can tell.
Schwa - September 25, 2008
Correct.
DeRoMyHero - September 25, 2008
Too bad there's not a position on the All-Star ballot...
…entitled “Wherever the hell Lou wants to play him.”
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
DeRo was asked about an All-Star "utility IF" (similar to NFL special teamer)
He said that he was not in favor of that. (paraphrase) “Utility IFers are bench guys, and bench guys are not All-Stars. I’m on the ballot as a 2B, and I should make it or not as a 2B.”
DeRoMyHero - September 25, 2008
B is Derrek Lee
A is DeRosa
It’s C but no clue who it is
Chanman25 - September 25, 2008
Mets announcers have a real problem with our OF Defense
Complaining that it is way to shallow.
nji232 - September 25, 2008
Dagnabit! I just know the po po will show right at an important at bat during the game.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
huh?
CubFaninNY - September 25, 2008
too much mescaline today
Jimmy?
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
I stay away from that crap now that I'm an old man.
A couple of teenagers broke out a window in the office and I’m waiting for Police to show up so I can file a report, then go get dinner.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
I used to trip once a month in my 20s. Usually some crap on a sheet.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
ah, the good old days.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
What I remember clearly, and what was the result of the acid? Oh well- I survived.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
Nice job two finger goldfish.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
+1
not sure why Church was running, though…
CubFaninNY - September 25, 2008
Hill nails him at second
nji232 - September 25, 2008
Is the Mets guy in the stand talking to Dykstra?
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
getting financial advice...
Bill Potter - September 25, 2008
Hoffpauer
finally getting some hits! Riot scores on a long double!
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
Nice hustle, Beltran
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
I have a problem with this Mets OF....
they’re too shallow.
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
lol!
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
Don't hassel the Hoff
Nice !
carmen_fanzone - September 25, 2008
3-1
sue369 - September 25, 2008
Iowa 3, NY Mets 1
zevkalman - September 25, 2008
Edmonds on a rehab assignment?
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
anybody got a MLB login and password to share for a night?
I’m blacked out here in NY.
Don’t all answer at once.
CubFaninNY - September 25, 2008
U: OHWHAATAH
P: NAZEYEAM
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
NOT FUNNY.
CubFaninNY - September 25, 2008
I don't think it matters
what login you use. MLB knows where you are. I actually share a login with someone in LA, and I get blacked out of games in Cincy and Pittsburgh and Cleveland (i’m in Columbus, OH)
The Original Dave - September 25, 2008
they use your visa/mastercard info (address) to locate you.
zevkalman - September 25, 2008
I'm pretty sure they don't...
Like I said, I live in Columbus, OH, but the account belongs to my buddy in LA.
The Original Dave - September 25, 2008
Check my profile
Same username@yahoo.com
EbBNJNeB
I’m watching, too – hopefully we can both watch at the same time
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
THANKS ALL!
I’ll try it now.
CubFaninNY - September 25, 2008
NOTHING DOING.
CubFaninNY - September 25, 2008
Sorry about that...
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
Hoffpauir with a good night so far
Chanman25 - September 25, 2008
Looks like Hoff
is making a bid for the post-season roster.
The Original Dave - September 25, 2008
I just don't see the place for him.
Ward fulfills the role of lefty off the bench much better. Fonty can play second base. Pie can play all three outfield spots, and he’s way faster. I don’t see room for Hoff.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
Ward
shouldn’t be anywhere near a playoff game with the way he’s hit this year.
The Original Dave - September 25, 2008
thats on 'original'
Hammer - September 25, 2008
I disagree totally.
Hoff isn’t any better than Ward, and Ward has WAY more experience. I’d MUCH rather have Ward at bat. There’s no hole in his swing, and he can take a walk.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
+1
and im a hoff fan
Hammer - September 25, 2008
I'm sure Lou
will handle it the right way. It’s a tough decision, actually, choosing between two guys who can’t hit major league pitching right now.
Experience certainly plays a role. Like I said, I’ll leave it up to Lou. Hoff gets my vote at the moment, though.
The Original Dave - September 25, 2008
It's not a tough decision at all.
Ward has PROVEN he can hit ML pitching. Hoff has not. Once again, Ward has a few fall in, and we’re not even discussing this.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
You don't need a PH in the playoffs taking a walk...
…you need a hit. And Ward has not hit this season.
Not saying Micah should replace him, but, really Ward’s been so bad this year, save 2 big hits, it’s scary.
carmen_fanzone - September 25, 2008
Um...as long as a batter doesn't make an out...what the hell is wrong with that?
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
Depends on the situation....
….do you really want Ward up there to take a walk in a clutch situation?
carmen_fanzone - September 25, 2008
Without a doubt.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
If he doesn't get a good pitch...yes. It would be STUPID to not take a walk.
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
absolutely.
and Hoff will K at a much higher rate.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
Ward has hit
just as much as Hoffpauer. And walks are highly underrated. We need players to GET ON BASE. You can’t score lots of runs without lots of baserunners.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
My only problem with Ward
is once he gets on base he has to be replaced with someone who can actually run. Then you use up two bench players.
sue369 - September 25, 2008
sure
but Lou is the master of the double switch. I’ll take my chances with Ward the Clutch hitter.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
I guess we disagree.
sue369 - September 25, 2008
That's what Jason is for, if he isn't needed in long relief.
DeRoMyHero - September 25, 2008
But he's often in put in a situation that calls for a hit to drive in runs...
…not a walk. And then we have a slow baserunner on when he does walk.
carmen_fanzone - September 25, 2008
Damned basepath clogger
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
OH NOES! Another man on base! That just KILLS rallies....it's worse than a double play!
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
Maybe your definition of a Pinch HITTER is different than mine...
Bottom line, he’s up there to hit, not to walk in 90% of the situations he’s put into.
carmen_fanzone - September 25, 2008
Pinch Walker
Texas Ranger?
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
Every single hitters primary job is to not make an out. Everything else is secondary.
It’s kinda the point of the whole damn game….not making outs. You only get 27 of them.
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
that seems so ...........
logical
Madison Cub Fan - September 25, 2008
Try getting carmen to undersand the value of having a PH take a walk if he doesn't get a pitch to hit.
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
U don't have to be shitty, SWL
carmen_fanzone - September 25, 2008
OK...
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
No, it's true
I hadnt really thought about PH taking a walk, I tend to only think about getting a hit or sacrifice being their job. But doh not getting an out more important.
Madison Cub Fan - September 25, 2008
he doesn't do that either.
his job is to have a good at bat, try to put the ball in play (or out of the park) — usually in a highly clutch situation.
I trust Ward to do that over Hoff. It’s not logical. The sample size is too low to be effective. It’s gut feeling. YMMV.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
Again, I"m not saying Micah over Ward....
I’m saying Ward, compared to other years, has not had Ward-like numbers. He’s down about 100 points on his OBP this year compared to last year. I’ve wanted him to be the Daryl of old all year, but save for two big hits, he hasn’t.
carmen_fanzone - September 25, 2008
I don't think anyone's disagreeing with that
we just don’t think Hoff is any better, and experience counts for something.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
Well, I never said Hoff was better, so I guess I'm barking up the wrong tree
carmen_fanzone - September 25, 2008
Remember, the PH will most often bat 9th.
If he walks, he creates more baserunners for Sori — hardly a bad thing.
DeRoMyHero - September 25, 2008
One other factor...
Ward is a much better OF than Hoff. (I know that isn’t exactly a compiment.) If DeRo and Cedeño are hurting, and Dome’s bat remains in Japan, that may become a factor. Also, if you carry both, you won’t have Pie to PR for DeRo, Soto, or Edmonds.
DeRoMyHero - September 25, 2008
Ward is a proven, veteran hitter.
He has hit many balls hard this year. Most of them found a glove. When you have as few at bats as Ward has had this year, a couple of those hard hit balls fall in and he’s one of the leading pinch hitters in the league.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
He's 8-51 as a PH for chrissakes...
carmen_fanzone - September 25, 2008
I'd rather have a proven hitter than a career minor leaguer who hasn't proven anything.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
I'd rather have Fontenot up there...
carmen_fanzone - September 25, 2008
sure
but I think Fonty is on the roster anyway. This is Ward Vs. Hoff, not Ward vs. Misc Bench Player
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
All I've said is Ward's been bad this year...
…..never said Micah should be his replacement.
carmen_fanzone - September 25, 2008
I'm glad you're not making out the post season roster.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
The young pups
have done pretty well for the Cubs this year so far. Another guy that’s fresh, that the opposing pitchers don’t know a whole lot about can go a long way, too
The Original Dave - September 25, 2008
Exactamundo.
Jimmyeatworld - September 25, 2008
What Channels the game on?
longtimecubfan - September 25, 2008
Depends where you are.
sue369 - September 25, 2008
Hey gang!
Listening through the radio static, did I hear that Hoffpauir has 2 rbi, including a homer tonight? Goodness.
Bill Potter - September 25, 2008
yep
when there’s no pressure, Hoff is great.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
Heh..so is Carlos.
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
Pedro pitch count anyone?
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
58
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
He won't make it to the 5th inning...if we get that far.
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
I demand that Dome start hitting the ball with authority!
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
He would rather screw himself into the ground
nji232 - September 25, 2008
Could you please lend him one of your legs?
His current stick of wood seems to have a hole in it.
DeRoMyHero - September 25, 2008
Good evening everyone!
Looks like tonight is going well for the Cubs so far.
cowsarecool220 - September 25, 2008
So far yes it is.
sue369 - September 25, 2008
score?
Hammer - September 25, 2008
3-1 Cubs, Mid 3
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
3-1 bottom 3 now
nji232 - September 25, 2008
from a transplanted Chicagoan.
ChicagoRalph - September 25, 2008
score and inning pleas
Hammer - September 25, 2008
2 outs later than the last time you asked :P
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
3-1 cubs botton of 3...2 out.
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
3-1 two out bottom 3
nji232 - September 25, 2008
3-1 bottom of the 3rd
sue369 - September 25, 2008
GUILTY
tootle - September 25, 2008
I swear the Mets Color guy is gonna shift the Cubs outfielders himself in a minute
nji232 - September 25, 2008
I stopped watching them
and switched to the Len and Bob.
The Original Dave - September 25, 2008
Im sticking with them because I can't wait to hear more about how stupid the Cubs are
when it comes to positioning the outfield
nji232 - September 25, 2008
Weather update?
How does it look to us poor unfortunate souls who don’t get the game? Can we get 5 in?
dbaltman - September 25, 2008
no rain yet
why not?
tim815 - September 25, 2008
Thanks.
dbaltman - September 25, 2008
The heavens can pour their wrath onto Shea Stadium for its mere existence
In three more innings.
Clutch16 - September 25, 2008
Yeah
I really don’t want the Cubs to have to play a game after the season. Even if they really aren’t playing a full season since it looks like the ’Stros are going to be out of it.
The Original Dave - September 25, 2008
what are the odds the umpires would make them play all 9
just so the Mets can’t complain about a rain-shortened loss.
Bill Potter - September 25, 2008
Cubs up 3-1 Yippee!
just got here
Emelie - September 25, 2008
Hey Em!
sue369 - September 25, 2008
hi em and sue
Madison Cub Fan - September 25, 2008
hi maddy and sue :-)
Emelie - September 25, 2008
Hi, Maddy, Sue, and Emelie!
Hi Joey! Hi Martine! Hi Alonzo! Hi Burt!
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
Hi Maddy!!
sue369 - September 25, 2008
1-2-3
nice swift inning.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
with len and bob complaining
about harden’s lack of velocity,
he’s shutting down a team that needs this game
tim815 - September 25, 2008
is he really slow?
they’re thinking about next week, I guess.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
when he beat St. Louis
weren’t his comments along the lines of “I realized I don’t need to throw 100 percent on every pitch”
Bill Potter - September 25, 2008
yes.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
so I'm not going to worry.
I’ll take this new, wiser Rich Harden
Bill Potter - September 25, 2008
could they also enjoy his lack of runs given up?
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
I used to be in the freak out about his veloctiy crowd
Not anymore. The guy still shuts people down
nji232 - September 25, 2008
Didn't Rich say
not too long ago that velocity isn’t everything? I agree with him. Case in point: Greg The Professor Maddux
The Original Dave - September 25, 2008
cubs 3 team in last year at stadium 1
end of 3
tim815 - September 25, 2008
3 down
Cubs up 3-1
nji232 - September 25, 2008
Harden
swift legs!
Beating out another infield throw.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
Harden gets on base again
Running hard to first
nji232 - September 25, 2008
Nice hustle, but I'd rather not have Harden running the bases...
DeRoMyHero - September 25, 2008
I agree
The only other time it happened, he got rocked by the Astros
nji232 - September 25, 2008
Maybe Pie will do another
Soriano impersonation and Harden can walk around the bases.
The Original Dave - September 25, 2008
Scratch that :)
The Original Dave - September 25, 2008
Harden's "velocity" down the first base line seems OK.
santoswoodenlegs - September 25, 2008
He has to be one of the fastest pitchers in baseball
nji232 - September 25, 2008
as is
the wind from Pie’s swings. Geez.
drewishdrewid - September 25, 2008
yuh
tim815 - September 25, 2008
overflow 1 is up
don’t know how to link or I would
MOCubsfan - September 25, 2008
try this
Jump!
Bill Potter - September 25, 2008
Beat me to it, but I'll do it again...
Overflow Thread 1
The Original Dave - September 25, 2008
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