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Overflow Thread 2: Cubs vs. Brewers, Sunday 9/28, 1:05 CT

"I think about baseball when I wake up in the morning. I think about it all day and I dream about it at night. The only time I don't think about it is when I'm playing it." -- Carl Yastrzemski

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FIrst

dunno if it counts tho

Vintage Wuertz

Spits the bit when the pressure’s on.

New thread, change the momentum

any old kind of an out.

nice nod to Jack Brickhouse! :-)
why all the different pitchers?

Guzman did good through two maybe he should have stayed in longer and we wouldn’t be in this mess now.

Len said ...

they wouldn’t do that because Guzman is still not 100 percent after surgery.

terribly aggravating
I'll take it

Now lets score

1 down for the Mets, btm 7th, 2-2 tie
bizarre

Wonder who Lou will throw in the next couple innings. Is Wood an option?

doesn't Marmol need some work
pitched the last two days

He might be the only guy who’s completely unavailable.

i got a feeling we may see a few

extra inning games today….

As long as that means we see a few playoff teams burning out their pitchers

I’d love it…

We, on the other hand, need to avoid throwing anyone we’re going to need.

Sox up 5-1

The AL Central race won’t be decided for a couple days.

Ramon Martinez Ks, 2 down
Does EVERY team have to play "Paranoid" by Black Sabbath?!?!
Yes

Yes they do.

SO unoriginal, just like goatees
Ah, the goatee...

…truly the fretless bass of facial hair.

It's Selig's favorite song, MLB wide mandate!

hehe

Leonard Selig, the Chameleon Commissioner
Ryan Church Ks AGAIN (3rd today)

end of 7th, 2-2

Sabathia

just passed 100 pitches.

His arm has to fall off soon? Right?
If this game goes extras

he is switching to his right arm

on his 3rd consecutive start of 3days rest

Gangrene, here we come!

How great would a solo HR

by McGehee be right now.

hey tip of the hat to CC

dude has shown he can pitch well in big games

definitely

The guy is a horse.

he weighs as much as one.

SNAP!

against a AAA lineup. Partially anyway.
he's a machine
Which is why I don't want to face him in the NLCS
*if we get there
good mr. fire.

Here is your treat:

Santana's no slouch
Never mind

I see your point about the different rounds

Scott Schoenweis In for NY, Top of 8th

Wes Helms at bat…

Just a thought....

Isn’t kinda sad that Iowa Cubs have been so competitive against NYM and MIL?

...

Sad for them. Happy for us!

Oh, wow

bare-hand play by CC.

Wes Helms goes deep

Fish lead 3-2…Top 8th

Helms HR, 3-2 Fish

Boo birds out in full force at Shea

Looks like a dagger to me.
SNY Announcers 2nd Guessing Manuel

for leaving in Schoenweis to face the RH-hitting Helms

easy to do that now
CC is never coming out,

hes going the whole game even if it goes into extras

Howry. We just lost.
That's why the Brewers fans are cheering
yep last night on evil bcb

they were hoping for Howry so they could make up their deficit

Don't get why Lou wants the Dodgers in Round 1 and not the Mets?!?
To be fair

Howry is on the playoff roster, so Lou’s gonna see if he can throw a scoreless inning

Dodgers: Shut down Manny and you beat them

Mets: Santana, Delgado, Wright, etc.

I’m not sure I don’t agree with Lou. First round, I’d rather have LAD. But I don’t want to have to play Milwaukee

And I missed the joke

I’m an idiot

Dodger Pitching > Mets Pitching

Careful what you wish for….

Yeah, but Mets offense >>>>> than Dodgers offense

Which is why I’m torn

Oh, no. why Howry and not Shark?
I know its crazy

But if the Brewers are gonna win this game let them do it over Howry in a complete meltdown….then maybe Lou will get the point that he doesn’t deserve to be on the NLDS roster.

who deserves his spot?

Gaudin hasn’t been very good. And I don’t want Wuertz pitching in October.

CC is hitting

wow

Howry?

Bad Idea Jeans, Lou.

Congrats

to the Brewers. You’re welcome

Haven't been following too closely, but...

We’ve been parading the entire bullpen this game. Who’s left if we go into extra innings?

Throw Marquis in there, hahaha
we just

Picked up Will Ohman up off of waivers. I say use him.

Still got Marmol, Wood, Shark and the starters who could throw a few pitches if necessary
the starters

won’t throw

Luis Ayala in for the Mets

Dan Uggla at bat.

CC caught looking at strike 3...
In 2003, we wanted the Marlins in the NLCS...
Uggla HR, 4-2 Fish

Mets fans ready to riot

Scary place to be right now.
They get what they get

2 years in a row and they choke in September. Screw em.

Ouch

Mets can’t blame Lou’s AAA lineup on this one.

I an just see all the

headlines in the morning when I wake up….it’s going to be all about the collapse of the mets…..unless we win

wow... cubs JUST managing so far
In a shocking move....

Jerry Manuel is fired before the bottom of the 8th rolls around in NY.

That looked good off the bat

Woo that was close

Nice catch Hoff!!
that certainly

was a circuitous route

+10 BCB points for correctly using the word:

circuitous

Willingham Flies to CF, 1 down
Wow

Hoff looked lost lol

Dome with the catch

I mean Hoff sorry, look so similar out in right

Oh, lord

Why is Hoff still in? Defensive replacement time, Lou.

of course it's a HR... expect anything else??
Matter. of. time.

No Howry in NLDS.

+100

Wish Lou would listen.

Braun goes deep
Ross Flies to RF, 2 out
It like watching the proverbial train wreck
Amezega Flies to LF, 3 down
Geo better start practicing

….the intentional walk routine with a cardboard cutout of Manny Ramirez. We’re gonna use that one real soon it looks like….

4-2 fish

mid 8

why is Howry

on our playoff roster??

can someone please tell me why the fuck bob howry is making the playoff roster

WHAT THE HELL LOU!

I wish I could

but I don’t understand it either.

Dear Lou,

Please don’t be stubborn. Please don’t let Howry onto the NLDS roster. Please. I beg of you. You can have my firstborn. Anything. Just no Howry.

Sincerely,
Me

Howry Shits The Bed

After sucking all year long, he should volunteer to be left off the postseason roster.

How do I hate Howry? Let me count the ways
So would Bob Howry

get a playoff share from both the Brewers and the Cubs now???

No

Just from the Brewers

pinella may really have to answer some questions this off season

1) pitching howry in a game like this that could help us play the damaged mets rather than fully rested dodgers
2) bringing howry to post season – he WILL give up a HR in the post season if lou pitches him

Look like no Monday NL baseball

maybe Monday and Tuesday AL baseball

do we know for sure that he is making the roster?

was it announced?

"Howry. We just lost." - Emelie

Howry is Ohman levels of bad. Really. I’m kinda sick of the whole other team waiting for us to put in Howry so they can grab the lead.

I would argue that using Howry is worse than using Ohman

At least with Ohman, you can say, “Eh, he’s a lefty, sometimes you’ve got to use him”

Howry: No excuse

Ohman was never this bad.

He walked guys, yes, but never gave up tons of runs in close situations. He never had an ERA like Howry does.

cubs did have their chances though

how many DP’s did they hit into? So now it’ll be all about the great CC in the morning and the collapse of the mets…..

hate pinella, not howry

He shouldn’t BE ON THE TEAM. So much for playing the awful mets round one. The pinella love affair with howry could be fatal

how did howry manage to make the postseason roster

when he sucks?

Lou Didn't Take This Game That Seriously

and it may well bite him in the butt come playoff time.

head scratching move to be sure

kinda like pulling Z in game 1 of the NLDS last year….well I need to get to bed….have duty in the morning

fonzi hit

theroit hit
Dlee HR
=
monday baseball

Folks

we have to win 11 games after today. Doesn’t really matter who we play….

But it helps if we can stack the deck
thats what everyone thought in 2003

when the Marlins beat the Giants… Cubs just have to win against whoever whenever.

Agreed

Which is why we need to start the “Dump Howry” campaign

I hate being totally pissed

over a game that should mean nothing

Well, if anything...

We could get another 9th inning comeback. Game isn’t over yet.

Murphy Ks
i don't think its a case of pinella not taking the game seriously

It is the concept of having a guy on the post season roster that cannot be trusted in any meaningful situation, hence what is the point of having him on the roster. Bring another bat

prediction

Cubs over LA
Cubs over PHIL
Cubs play Boston and it goes to 6 games….

Too soon
+1

For one thing, I don’t know that LAA doesn’t come out of the AL

But way too soon

So

Looks like

Game 1 – Dempster vs. Lowe
Game 2 – Zambrano vs Billingsley
Game 3 – Harden vs Kuroda

You know…if we can’t pull out another miracle comeback….but like someone else said, we just gotta win 11 more games, doesn’t matter who we play.

exactly..

plus LA played good down the stretch but they dominate either. Arizona helped by collapsing down the stretch

HFA Against LA Will Be Huge
I Hate That Googly-Eyed SOB Punk Ass Butcher Glove Showboating Punk

of a LF out there

So my internet hasn't been working today

Figures that I get back on here right after Braun hits it out. Hopefully we have seen the end of Bob Howry

Reyes ground rule 2B w/2 outs
And Beltran at the plate
so does CC go 130 pitches too?
Three more of those and we're in biz
Howry Doody

You can smell it coming.

Wife Just Commandeered The TV to watch the Cubs game
Oh Captain my Captain!
Rays

Is everyone counting them out in the AL because of the youth and lack of experience? If they get Crawford back at even 60% I could see them making a run

This is true

But Rays are my second-favorite, and as such, I have to be pessimistic about their chances

Plus, I’d rather see the Cubs play someone else for the WS this year

Rays

Are a fun team to watch. Too bad no one goes to see them play at home.

They are my AL team as well...

Which makes me wnt to have them get to the WS and lose to the Cubs :)

GIDP Lee

Beltran walks

all losses stink but this one is a STINKY STINK
DPLee to finish the season

Almost seems fitting.

How fitting for an ending...
Hats off to Sabbathia

Incredibly clutch performance.

well that sucked

but really doesn’t matter

At Shea: Beltran walks...Arthur Rhoades coming in for the Fish

1st & 2nd – 2 outs for the Mets Bottom 8th

Uggg

Well, we can’t say the Brew Crew didn’t earn their way in. Can we expect Sabathia on the bump for Game 1 and 2 of the NLDS?

Well, all I have to say is...

Let’s go Mets!!

So, so stupid.

I know they were phoning it in and all, but come on.

they really were... but it's all HOWRY'S FAULT

oufff…. if this happens during a playoff game I will break things

Yup, Howry blew it

Why is he still going out there? All he has in his pitching arsenal is a fast ball.
Nothing after that.

Oh, it's over

Brewers win … pressure on the Mets

We all know what that means

CC

will pitch game 1, 2, 3 and 4 & 5 if needed

Fatbathia

They may have to cut both arms off before Game 2 and put his right arm on where his left arm used to be.

I'd bet Sveum doesn't pull him after 85 pitches
Thing is

Sabathia kicking the ball to homeplate would be more effective than any other starter they have.

A quick note to say...

I love L.A. (Light ’em up!)

memo to the brewers and their fans

CC’s great. He can’t pitch every day. ;)

There is a thing about momentum going into the playoffs

Brewers will have that as much as anyone now, assuming the that team from NY loses

Not necessarily

DET slumped into the playoffs, went to the WS, where they lost to STL, who also slumped into the playoffs.

BOS slumped into the playoffs, went to the WS, where they beat COL, who was about as hot as you can be going into (and through) the playoffs.

Momentum going into the postseason is overrated.

All thing being equal would you rather have it or not?
I'd rather have it, but I'd also rather have a lucky unicorn in the dugout

Either way, I don’t think it’s very important

then there's the 1988 Dodgers and the 2007 Rockies

all things being equal, it couldn’t hurt having some momentum.

I'll say it again- Brewers aren't likeable

They act like a bunch of bushers with chips on their shoulders. Unprofessional and unkempt, as is their fan base.

After what I saw of

their fans yesterday I would agree with this.

Would rather have faced the Mets

Dodgers are going to be a tough series, especially in a best of 5

And why the hell is Howry going to the be on the playoff roster???

ICOB

In case of blowout

Ih he throws in a blowout

I hope we are up by 12 cause he’ll probably give up 11

I was thinking in case we get blown out

If we’re down by seven going into the eighth and have a 2-0 series lead, just let Howry pitch

CC

It looked like he was wearing a playoff cap on the sidelines…

barely fit his fat head
I saw that too.

What is up with that?

don't tempt...

… the baseball Gods.

F U Willingham

Catches Delgado’s drive to end the 8th.

Delgado flies out deep to left...End 8th Fish lead 4-2
hahah

These poor met fans. So disheartened.

Yuck

Man, I wish we could go into the playoffs on the high the Brewers have right now. Instead, we go in rested but not playing especially well. And I also don’t understand how a pitcher can get rocked all year and still make the postseason roster. Howry hasn’t had a thing all year, just straight fastballs that get killed.

Howry

Almost makes you miss Will Ohman. ALMOST.

kind of like...

… the high the Cubs went in with in 1998? Look at what happened to both the Twins and Sox after their big series. Emotions go both ways.

Everyone just keeps

Pointing to Colorado from last year with the momentum and short rest going into the playoffs.

BIG difference between them and the Brewers. They won 21 of 22 or something insane like that.

The Brewers won like 8 games the entire month.

I would argue that the Brewers really backed into the playoffs...

…and their starting pitching is in shambles going into the next series. I don’t see them getting past Philly.

excellent point
who cares...

… how they get in (if they get in). The bottom line is that the Cubs play who they play. If its the Dodgers, its a solid but not spectacular team. If its the Mets is a tremendous ace followed by a line-up that can be a sleeping giant. Anything can happen in a 5 or 7 game series. The Cubs need to play good ball and drive in runs when they have the opportunity.

not sure why you're replying to me, but, okay.....
because you're bringint up

how they got into the playoffs.

I was commenting on the original post...

…the “high of the Brewers as they get in”……maybe you should have done the same?

I did comment

And I’m commenting now on the concept of a team “backing into the playoffs”. Everything resets once the playoffs start and it doesn’t matter how a team gets in. I’m not sure how its pertinent to anything how a team gets in. As I said in a five or seven game series anything can happen. So whether the Brewers get in “on an emotional high” and that carries forward or whether they backed in and are in a shambles, who knows. Anything can happen and the best team doesn’t always win.

My ONLY complaint in this wonderful season...

is Lou’s continued use of Bob Howry. So damn confusing. If we can see it, if the other hitters in the league can see it, why does Lou have such blinders on?

I just fail to understand.

This is Lou's only bad choice all year

I cannot help but think that it will cost us in the playoffs.

Howry ends the season with an era of 5.35

Pretty good to have a reliever that gives you a 50% chance of giving up a run. UGH

stubborn

doesn’t want it to look like the fans are calling the shots. All I can say is the heat will be on Lou if Howry is responsible for a loss that knocks out the Cubs.

Dome and Howry

Maybe Dome could mention to Howry the sense of shame and losing face in Japanese society, causing Howry to publicly apologize and request being left off the playoff roster.

Bob Howry Sucks ASS

he has no business on the post season roster. he will lose us games. Every time he throws he gives up huge home runs

Anyone else think

Ryan Howard and Chase Utley will have trouble hitting balls that Sabathia punts towards them since his arm should fall off in about 2 hours today.

YES….SOMEONE photoshop Sabathia into this picture!!

Detached limbs go "plorp"?
In Plorp, Run(s)
one of my better jokes and nobody laughs...sigh....
Too esoteric for those who don't watch Gameday

Nice joke, though

in my experience detatched limbs go...

….wait no. I have no idea what that sounds like. Hope the Brewers can tell us this week.

Have you ever heard the sound of a detached limb?
No, that's why I'm asking
I haven't either...

….so I’ll take the comic illustrator’s word for it. :)

All, It has been a pleasure working with you this regular season!

don’t worry about today… we’ll be fine.

game 1: CHC 8 LAD 2
game 2: CHC 7 LAD 0
game 3: CHC 4 LAD 2

I hope you're right

I just see this series with the Dodgers going 5 games

Well it was fun...Went way to fast

but I definitely enjoyed this summer with all you guys! Lets get it done this next month!

The only things that worry me right now

Zambrano’s funk
DeRosa and Geo being a little banged up
Manny Ramirez

they said SOriano's a little cold too
Soriano

Even so…he still has some postseason experience.

But then again so does Manny.

Manny scares the crap out of me.

Sori will heat up

We need him to go on one of his monstrous mini-tears in the playoffs

Hey guys (not directed at everyone)...

Kindly step away from the ledge. For goodness sake, the playoffs haven’t even started yet, a game hasn’t even been won or lost in the first series, and some of you are wanting to jump. Guess what? Come Wednesday, none of this matters. CC could choke on a ham sandwich, while so many on the Dodgers’ pitching staff could come down with diphtheria you would think they all stepped off the Oregon Trail. Point is, no one knows what will happen, so lets have a nice few days off, and give our boys all the support they need on Wednesday.

+1

Prince could also choke on a cucumber sandwich

This team has made

believers out of us so many times this season. I see no reason to not believe they will continue to so that. I have faith in them.

I know

They’ve come back from I don’t how many times now. When things look their worst, this team makes the best of it. In all my life, I’ve never seen this team do that. We’ve all been given so many awesome moments this season, that it would be foolish to call it a season just because Howry gave it away in this one game. No reason to feel bad about anything right now. Not Soto, DeRo, Soriano, Dome, Z, Howry, etc.

To end this on an even more positive note, if anything at all disturbs me, it’s that I didn’t start posting here sooner, but I’ve had a blast for I don’t know how long with laughing at a lot of things you all say. You’re all some of the best fans I’ve met, and it was real cool to bump into Al a couple weeks ago. So if I feel bad about anything, it’s that. I do think you’re all great though, so I look forward to enjoying this postseason with y’all too.

I'm loking forward to the

post season too and one thing I am hoping is the players remember how it ended last year and won’t let that happen again this year.

who's ledge jumping?

This is a series that basically meant nothing….except rest for the starters and setting up the rotation. They’ll be ready to go.

What's Ferris Bueller doing at the Mets game?
"These two have more hits than the Mets!"

Hahah oh Chip.

tell Seinfeld to watch out for that magic loogy from Hernandez
Twins

six outs away from clinching a tie for the AL central. 4-0 going into the 8th. If the Twins win the Sox must beat the Tigers tomorrow to force a one-game playoff at US Cellular on Tuesday.

Bring In Koosman!

wait, this isn’t 1973?

If Cubs fans think THEY hate the Marlins for 2003 just think of this

Last year the team to get 7 runs off Glavine before inning one was over was the Marlins. With the Cubs at least they were trying to advance to the WS, here they’re just playing spoilers.

Mets will have Delgado, Wright, and possibly Endy Chavez

to lead off the bottom of the ninth
So I don’t think they are done yet

Ugh!!!

Does Bob Howry = Charlie Brown on the mound??
I’m sorry, but our bullpen concerns me the most.

Bullpen doesn't concern me

Utilization of the bullpen (i.e., putting Howry in) scares the heck out of me

why?

our bullpen hasn’t been used like it will be come Wednesday for over a week. Give it a break.

My Overall Prediction:

We are going to have a Happy Ending in ’08

Thorn in our side for the NLDS

Last season was A-Ram and his penchant for GIDP.

Lets hope he brings the clutch he has showed us so many times this year….and pray that Lee’s GIDP problems were only a regular season problem.

Winning pitcher in Philly today: Les Walrond -- his first career win at age 31
It's showtime in Shea.

Let’s see what the Mets can pull off!

I'm sure it's some kinda endorsement requirement by MLB...

but the Brewers putting on Wild Card Winners t-shirts & caps before actually winning the Wild Card is tempting fate a bit too much

This is what I mean - Brewers are classless punks

Maybe it’s really Comiskey North.

agreed

and also a little disrespectful. You don’t celebrate with the garb until its an
iron clad clinch…but that’s just my opinion

and probably the opinion of every other MLB club...
To the bottom of the 9th!

Mets in the clutch!

Oh.

We’re screwed.

yeah, they already had delgado bat, so it's 5-6-7 i think
Guys i really think we will be fine..

we didnt’ win 97 games this year by accident. We have a good team and Lou will have them ready come wed doesn’t matter who we play.. I agree with nervous a few spots above me, I think we’re going to have a fun October. Go Cubs Go

I just hope the media in Chicago eat Lou alive after today.

NO HOWRY IN THE PLAYOFFS!!

Lou doesn't pay attention to the media

I wouldn’t be surprised if he skips the conference

He hasn't cared

what the media thinks and he won’t now either.

And he shouldn't

Lou should not give a flying poop de do what the media thinks.

In fact he should ask them what he should do and DO THE OPPOSITE!

My Cats got your Hawkeyes yesterday.

I think we did Philly a huge favor

Instead of the Dodgers they get the Brewers with only one good pitcher who will only throw once. If he can still throw by the weekend

So, Who IS our Post-Starter, Pre-Marmol Guy???
I'd say Cotts or Shark
Ladies and gents, you heard the sideline reporter

We’re watchin’ history

Wow this is tense

and our team isn’t even in it!

They should erect a statue to Howry in Milwaukee.

This idiot just deprived the Cubs of an easy NLCS against the lousy Mets bullpen .

Yeah, but we'd have to build a statue to Gagne to reciprocate
can we

afford to build something so massive out of anything less than wads of chewed gum. Imagine how much concrete you would need to do a “to scale” replica of Gagne.

Would help kick start the ecomomy
ill just take

another stimulus package

Less in your pocket come tax season

Just to let you know.

Let's please not get into a political/economic argument here

Both sides are wrong

Agree

I could care less who wins the election.

No, wait.

I vote Mark DeRosa for president.

Oh

Give it to me anyways. Ill just take the Bush approach and worry about the consequences of my actions later…or have someone else deal with it.

Game 1 lineups?

Vs. Derek Lowe

Soriano
Theriot
D. Lee
Ramirez
Geo
DeRosa
Edmonds
Fukudome
Dempster

Don’t really know what to expect from Lou in RF. Im not sure Lou doesn’t just start Hoff in game 1.

Hoff in right... in the playoffs?

Do not want.

Is the Mets game over?
ive seen nothing

Out of them in the past couple weeks to suggest that they have any kind of comeback in their team.

Pressure + Mets = MASSIVE FAIL
Roll over and die

They should get an Oscar for that performance 2 years running.

3-2 count on Wright
If the Mets win here and then beat the Brewers tomorrow

then they would have some serious mo….. Who cares? not me

I hate Bob Howry
if we printed up bumper stickers we'd make a fortune
I'd put one on my car
I'd COVER my car with them...
I think I will sit here like Santo

and enjoy seeing that dump Shea go down in a collapse..

Unless Mookie Wilson comes out of retirement in the next minute...

we’re playing LA

I Might Appoint My Wife the Designated TV Viewer For the next 3 Weeks

and just have her feed me updates as I read in the bedroom.

selective updates :-D
That doesn't work; I've tried it...

They never get the PBP quite right and then the other team hits a home run and she yells “Home Run…Yeah” and then I ask her which team and she says “Those guys wearing red uniforms” and your marriage goes downhill from there.

Did you see the Mets' fan signs: "Heimlech manuever now"

LOL

Tomorrow...

Anyone have any objections to sending a minor league affiliate to beat up on the crybaby Astros for the makeup game just to rub it in?

We've been playing the AAA team the last 6 games...

….they’re tired.

Just mentioning those crybabies from Houston cheered me up a little. Thanks.
Would they complain when Rich Hill no-hits them
Send Howry too

And have an “accident” involving the train.

Hahahaha...

No hits, 12 walks

Exactly

Houston loses, 9-2

BB

Church up.

and he's already stuck out 6 straight times
Dusty

Is having clogged bases fits somewhere right now watching the at bat by Easely.

Shea Goodnight, Mets
Brewers to playoffs
Brewers headed to playoffs

Marlins win

ouch

2008 Team Payrolls
No. Team Payroll
1. New York Yankees $209,081,579
2. Detroit Tigers $138,685,197
3. New York Mets $138,293,378

Church drove it deep

but caught…Brewers go to the playoffs

wow that was close
yeah, last ball was flyout to warning track
At least Church didn't K for the 7th consecutive time. Bah! Small consolation to them.
OK. Give the switch to Ron Santo now to destroy that dump called Shea.
Wow

Not only have the Mets performed one of the worst chokes in baseball history…

They’ve done it twice

Well, that's not how I envisioned it.

I wanted the Mets to make the playoffs just so that the Cubs were guaranteed an easy NLDS opponent, and so that the final game at Shea stadium could be a CUBS PLAYOFF WIN.

However, watching the Mets get their hearts ripped out on national TV – when all they had to do to keep their playoff hopes alive was win a home game against the freaking Marlins – was very, very satisfying.

Bring on the Dodgers!

Bring on the Dodgers..
Hello Los Angeles
fucking Bob Howry

I KNEW when they brought him into a tie game he would do his patient “I give up a HR” inning. He had only ONE good game against the Mets last week. His other performances have been shit. How he makes the playoffs is beyond me…

If he throws in a postseason game

It will cost us a game. He’s the shits this year. He gives up more big runs in close situations than anyone i can ever remember. Please leave him off the playoff roster

I had the same feeling. I told my brother on the phone (a Mets fan): "Sorry, you're screwed. Howry's in."
So my question from a few minutes ago

Who gets the starts in CF and RF for us against Lowe?

DeRo in Right, Edmonds in Center
Unless DeRo's hammy is tender...

…then Dome in right, DeRo at 2nd.

Not sure why there’s a question for center….?

I say...

…Edmonds and Fukudome.

any times set for the playoffs yet?
I want to punch Bob Howry.
Get in line....it's a long one.
It should be easy. Everyone makes contact with him

Rim shot, please

Say Sayonara to Shea

and hopefully to Bob Howry that he gets left off of the playoff roster

what's the new stadium going to be called?
Citi Field

i think

Choke Field
New Mets stadium

will be called

Not Shea Stadium

The Flushing Bowl
That's a good one..

When Lansing was building a new minor league ballpark in the 90’s they had a contest to name the stadium and my entry was “The Lansing Boils”. I didn’t win.

joke:

Q: What do you think about Flushing New York?
A: I’m In Favor Of It

score for Cali!
Howry at the 2009 Cubs Convention

I hope he’s there, as the target at the pie-throwing charity booth.

I don't think Bob will be a member of that team by Convention time.
I don't think he will be a member of the Cubs tomorrow.
Ever the optimist, WMHG.

Hope you’re right.

He won't make the post season roster now. I would just quietly let him go.
remember...

Lou can be pernicious when it comes to Howry

He's a bit off-center, but he's not nuts. Howry won't get within 50 feet of the

mound for this post season. Maybe he should pitch batting practice to build up the confidence of our hitters.

There aren't enough pies in Sara Lee's inventory
Bring on the Dodgers

Not my first choice, but at least they have to travel first. Go Demps! Go Richie! Go Cubs!

Howry

I’d much rather see Wuertz over Howry. I know that at times Wuertz has problems throwing strikes but in a situation where you have a big bat coming w/ a tendency to strike out, I’d much rather have Wurtz’s sliders rather than Howry’s fastball.

+1
+1

At least he can get a big out. Lou has to use him wisely but Howry is just done. It’s the end of the line for him here and we all know it.

God I hate NFL

A huge day in MLB and all they show on ESPN News is Brett Fucking Favre.

I wanted to see how many small animals get devoured in the Brewers clubhouse celebration.

+1
Guarantee

They had hours of Red Sox Wild Card celebration on ESPN news.

well he did throw for 6 TDs

that is impressive.

Mets could've used him in the bullpen
In his Defense.

The guy did throw 6 Touchdowns.

John Madden is giggly
NFL

Call me when they start playing more than once a week. Wusses.

Well, it could be worse

at 1:00 today, with all of the NFL’s early games in progress as well as 4 playoff-determining baseball games going on, ESPN was showing bowling, and ESPN2 was showing a children’s scrabble tournament.

no female roller derby reruns??? jeeeez
If we lose any series in the playoffs,

I GUARANTEE you it will be because of Howry

I highly, highly doubt that
So Phillies get to beat the crap out of the Brew Crew now

Unfortunatly, I smell a Cubs/Brewers NLCS coming. WE WILL DOMINATE.

Brewers starting rotation is in shambles...

Phillies have theirs all set up. I don’t see it.

CC is going to pitch every game.
Phillies

You think Scott Eyre makes the postseason roster?

I hope so

I always liked Eyre

What's Ned Yost doing right now? hahaha
What is the sound of one hand clapping?

Answer: “Because he’s so dang stupid.”

Filling out his resume.

And sending it to the Omar Minaya (sp?)
+ 1/2

right there with you.

If Yost goes to NY the average IQ of both cities will go up.
Yost

Calling to see if Jerry Manuel’s job is open yet.

And getting Minaya's voice mail

Why go from one choker to another?

I'd blame...

…the GM more than the manager.

If Minaya

Has his way he would sign Sammy Sosa to manage the Mets next year.

He may be dumb...

…but I don’t think he’s that dumb.

Intelligence

Means nothing when talking about Minaya if there is a Dominican option in the mix.

It appears that way...

…and the dude just doesn’t know how to put together the right talent.

Hire all the managers you want, but it won’t matter as long as this guy is putting the club together.

Have you heard him talk? I think he is that dumb.

How does someone like that get to be GM of a baseball team when all of us smart baseball minds are stuck here on this internet thing.

Trammel

Maybe this means Alan Trammel goes to New York and not to Milwaukee.

so would that mean

Bench coach ’09 ….Pat Listach ??

Listach

I predict either Pat is bench coach in 09 for the Cubs or manager in Milwaukee.

Put Terry Pendleton in the mix for both those jobs

I think he’s getting tired of waiting for Bobby to go home and …

I’ll be nice

NLCS Preferences

if Cubs/Phillies – Cubs
if Cubs/Brewers – Brewers
if Dodgers/Phillies – Phillies
if Dodgers/Brewers – Dodgers

HOLY JESUS! I MEANT IF CUBS/BREWERS - CUBS!!!
OK

we just called off the Death Squad that was surrounding your house

I was serioulsy

going to chew your ass but I decided today I was going to not let things in here bother me. Glad to see you just made a typo. ;-)

I was very confused for a second there.
Derrek Lee 2nd in NL

with 27 GIDP

Only 2nd? Who's first?
Miguel Tejada

with 32!

but he only admitted to 30 of them
His birth certificate says 35
He had, what, 20 at the AS break?

Glass half full

Glass too big by half
Dodgers got to coast against sub .500 teams for the last 6 weeks while we have

had to face play-off caliber teams. The only reason the Dodgers are above .500 now is because of the weak division they are in. I like the tune up that the Cubs have had to endure and how well they have played with mostly b-team line ups (& bullpens).

If the Cubs play the solid baseball they are capable of playing (and keep Howry out of the games), I have no doubt that the Cubs should be able to control their own destiny.

Let’s get this party started!!

The Cubs

The Cubs are the only team in the NL postseason that has played well all season.

Yeah, that 6 game losing streak was awesome
A couple of losing streaks

dodgers played badly pretty much all but the last 2 months.

Phillies were hot and cold.

Brewers sucked to start the season.

That's the most subjective reasoning I've ever heard in my life

How about mid-June when they were 3-11?

Or from late June-early July when they lost 7 of 10?

Or when they were 1-6 in mid-July?

Or can you just stipulate that as a “couple of losing streaks” instead of saying something as bland as “sucked to start the [mid]season”?

?

All season? Did you forget mid-August to mid-July? Early September?

August

August when they were 20-10 or something like that?

Apples <> Oranges

You said they never played poorly all season, I brought up two stretches where they did. Bringing up a good month refutes the fact that they had poor stretches????

and obviously I meant mid-June to mid-July --

when they were mediocre at best

Twins up 6-0 now

who’s up for that makeup game at US Cell tomorrow?? that’s gonna be one hot ticket baby, let’s all go

why

Would anyone pay for a ticket to see the White Sox….wait, I guess you wouldn’t have to hear “He gone” if you aren’t watching it on tv.

Twins

No matter what happens with the Twins Sox play tomorrow.

If Twins win and Sox lose tomorrow the Twins are champs.

If Twins lose and Sox lose tomorrow Sox win tomorrow Sox are champs.

If Twins win today and Sox win tomorrow they play Tuesday,.

Again, if not Bob Howry then WHO ....

The choices to round out the Cub bullpen are thin. They are not going to throw the rehabilitating Angel Guzman into the playoff fire and Chad Gaudin has been awful since the back thing. It is Howry (and Sarmardizija) by default folks.

? Those two are pitching better right now. Did you see today's game from the beginning?
Guzman over Howry, thank you very much
Sigh....

Up until today Chad Gaudin has been lit up every game since he came back from the back thing. And like I said it is obviously the case that the Cubs aren’t comfortable with pushing the rehabilitating Angel Guzman any more past today. Perhaps this is on advice of the medical people and he’s come up against the prescriped limit on innings and pitches set out for him in 2008.

f*** the doctors, pitch the guy who gives you a chance to win the pennant

lest ye forget, PITCHING IS KING!

And up until today Howry has excelled in allowing HR's to every opponent out there.
I agree 100% that Bob Howry is awful...

…but AGAIN, I don’t see the options beyond him. Apparently neither do Hendry, Lou and Larry.

I'm just scratching my head here as to why they think Howry is better than Guzmán at this point.

He just proved today that he can give them a few good inning that Howry can’t pitch at present.

obviously?

it is obviously the case that the Cubs aren’t comfortable with pushing the rehabilitating Angel Guzman any more past today.

could you site a reference?

I can only assume this...

Because if Guzman weren’t under strict medical microscope right now then it would seem he would easily be the guy to make the NLDS roster.

Ah, Assuming...

so NOT so obvious then. Gotcha.

What's your plausible explanation then???

Because statements of the blindingly obvious like “Bob Howry should not make the playoff roster” are useless without perspective on the other candidates. Clearly the Cubs have hestitancy about putting Guzman on a playoff roster and the only plausible reason is that the medical people don’t want him pushed any more. But if you have evidence of a vast right wing conspiracy in favor of Howry then please do share.

I find it difficult to believe that Howry's

performance this year would allow lou to pitch him in the post season. While I agree that the other option are not ideal, he has just performed too poorly for Lou to march him out there.

Gaudin pitched well today...

Guzman was dominating. Those would be two choices.

I'd take either one over Howry at this point

Is Howry’s experience somehow helping the team off the field? Because it is completely useless on it.

I'd take Damn near anyone over Howry
Well, that sounds great and all...

But again, you and I don’t know if Guzman is being shut down for his health. And Gaudin has looked real bad up until today.

when do they announce playoff roster

hoffpauir in/out ?
fuku in/out?
pie in/out?
howry in/out?

I think Howry is already in and Dome was never a question mark

Dunno when we’ll hear about the others.

All MLB sites

Anyone else have them loading ridiculously slow?

Totally inaccessible for awhile
Says

something about the interest in MLB today I guess.

And MLB's foresight in (not) preparing for such a thing
They didn't know the hurricane would still be affecting the game like it is today.

It’s not their fault. They had a flat tire. There was a fire.

The dog ate their home work
I Swear to God It Wasn't My Fault!!!!
Oh, Jake,

The Old Style guy.

MLB.Com sites

Bud killed us.

Times

Does anyone know when they will announce the times for the NLDS games so people that have to make work schedule adjustments can?

work

They already know I will be leaving early any day that involves any playoff game.

My schedule

i have to basically put in 40 hours between 7 am and 7 pm between monday and friday.

I work at 5 AM

which is a very good shift for a Cubs fan. Always able to get home in time for the home afternoon games.

For a few years

For a few years I worked 4-1230 not too far from the park. Would hokey pokey over for the game after work.

Its great

Being part of that “other 15%”

No

But TBS is probably in a conference call right now making their decisions

Once More, Without Typos

my NLCS preferences are:

If Cubs/Phillies – Cubs
if Cubs/Brewers – Cubs
if Dodgers/Phillies – Phillies
if Dodgers/Brewers – Dodgers

If Cubs/Phillies – Cubs
if Cubs/Brewers – Cubs
if Dodgers/Phillies – Don’t Care
if Dodgers/Brewers – Don’t Care

Quick Question

If a earthquake hits L.A tonight, does that mean they’ll move the games to Minute Maid Park?

"Bud Quaked Us"
my mistake -- I guess it was funny
That's not funny on it's own merits

And there are Cubs fans in the LA area that post on here

no worries, it's all good

;-)

Sorry if I upset any LA cubbie fans!

Looks like the mistake was mine
CC and Prince are landing in philly not L.A. The earthquake will be on the east coast.
Steve Phillips

Steve Phillips all but said on ESPN the Cubs might as well not show up against the Mutts.

Well he was right. They won’t go and play the Mets.

Phillips

Was he saying that they were gonna destroy us or us destroy them?

He picked them

He picked them as an easy win.

go back to chasing skirts, Steve
Say what you will about Phillips

But he still doesn’t annoy me nearly as much as Buster Olney. God I hate that tool.

Heeehh,

“He said ‘tool’.”

Gammons > Stark > Kurkjian > Olney > Phillips > Kruk
Any other living being (including plants) > Kruk

insofar as baseball knowledge, anyway

All the ESPN boobs

If the Cubs don’t make it I want a rays/brewers world series just to stick it to Fox and ESPN. Fox cause they show the games and espn because ESPN sucks.

He is Extremely Meticulously Well Groomed
The Good News

is that Bob Howry is not a starter. Ryan Dempster, Rich Harden, and Ted Lilly are. I think if Harden can go at least 6, maybe 7, we may not really need Bob, and certainly not in a game of any importance.

Oh, I get it now. Howry for mop up duty.

Well, I have news for Lou. It’s a best of 3 series. If you throw in a game you might not survive.

Ugh. Bad taste is my mouth.

Remember when the Cubs clinched the division? That was awesome.

a positive to clinching early

anyone interested in NL Central apparel should be able to have theirs in time for Game 1.

ALCS Preferences

if Angels/Rays – Rays
if Angels/AL Central – don’t care
if Red Sox/Rays – either one
if Red Sox/AL Central – Red Sox

CC

While I will never root for the Brewers I have a tremendous amount of respect for him.

I'll start showing my respect...

….the minute they show him holding up his new Angels jersey. LOL.

Didn’t quite work the way the Brewers wanted. They thought CC/Sheets were going to dominate and overtake us and cruise. Backing into the playoffs with a starting rotation in shambles and without Sheets, I can’t see them beating the Phillies.

prepare

To change your opinion when he signs with the Yankees.

I hope you're right but I think he will want to stay in the NL

Like Z, he likes to hit. He might be in LA with the “other” team

Sheets Sabathia

Does anyone else think the Brewers go balls to the wall and shell out kabillions to resign one or both of them?

No way with Sheets...

…and CC wants to pitch on the West Coast.

because he has family there?
Yes, he's from northern California
no
Good

Brewers are a non issue without those two in ’09.

To me the Astros are the big competition next year if they can sign even a decent #2 starter in the offseason.

They sill have a couple of holes at

catcher and third, but a big arm like that would put them right up near the Cubs. Their bullpen is descent and they could contend next year if the learn to stop whining. A new manager may be in the cards for them.

Doubt it

If they hadn’t made the playoffs, I would think they might shell out that kind of cash in order to take another shot at it. However, now that they’re in, they’re not gonna spend much in the offseason.

I don't think they have the money given their market.

I’m sure they would want to. It will take a NY, Chicago, Atlanta, LA type team to come up with the bucks.

Might CC Come to The CUBS next year??????????
I think that it would be

against the law to have a rotation of

Zambrano
Lilly
Dempster
Harden
Sabathia

The rest of MLB would protest the season.

Can you imagine how it would make Z grow up though

to have someone like that on the same staff? He would have to get his head together just to stay in the starting rotation.

Z

Really needs to examine his head this offseason….wait, he needs to be examining it NOW before the playoffs.

one of those guys could be moved
we'd have to expand our great hulk to add an extra head :D

more work for SWL but so worth it

I don't see the Cubs going after him

especially since the Steinbrenners are gonna offer him the moon to sign with the Yankees

That's the thing

If he purely takes the most money someone will offer him then he will be in the pinstripes next year, and not the royal blue ones.

CC Sabathia will be in Yankee pinstripes next season...

And Milwaukee will lose 90 games. But that’s in the future. In the immediate I will predict that the Phillies blow through the Brewers in 3 games en route to a matchup against the Cubs in the NLCS.

Cuban could beat Yanks to the punch

and then we can trade Z to yanks for Melky Cabrera in CF

Don't rule out the dodgers.
Ugggh....

Anyone else realize that if we want to see baseball instead of nothing on Tuesday we have to root for the White Sox….grrr

Isn’t that Hole in The Wall show on Tuesdays?

i think its thursday
I think

It’s canceled already

Or close to it.

The dude...

…can certainly toss the rock.

White Sox

I was glad to see two complete class acts in Buerhle and Konerko be the heroes today.

Think About This

It will take 11 Wins to Win the WS.

That will put us at 108 Total

1908 > 108 > 2008

Jinx

i WAS JUST ABOUT TO POST THAT

Go Bears!!
What baseball team does he play for?
Probable lineup versus the Dodgers....

1. Soriano – LF
2. Theriot – SS
3. Lee – 1st
4. Ramirez – 3rd
5. Edmonds – CF
6. Soto – Cat
7. DeRosa – RF
8. Fontenot – 2nd

Bench…Blanco, Cedeno, Johnson, Kosuke, Ward, Hoffpauier

Anyone else love the kid

In the Geico commercial who wants to put Mike Wallace in the wall no matter what they are doing?

I lose my shit every time.

I didn't say I wouldn't go fishin the the man

That is Rusty Wallace’s real life son.

he's a good actor
"Im a million miles away son"
Mike wallace is 90 years old. What the hell is

he doing on a race track……..Oh THAT Mike Wallace.

ANYONE KNOW THE TIME OF GAME 1 YET????????
Not yet, but...

here is the mlb.com schedule. As soon as they know, I’m sure that will update.

I finally get to chime in with my thoughts here....

First off Why are people thinking that facing the Mets would have been a cake walk?

I dont know about you but the chance of facing Johan twice in a series??? UHH NO THANK YOU.

Also Delgado, Wright, Reyes, Beltran scare me ALOT more then Manny, Either, Kemp and Kent. Just my opinion.

Seems like we where dreading the fact of facing the D-Backs, and would have rather seen the Dodgers anyway.. Now we got our wish and watch the Mets.

Lets just sit back and enjoy.

* And we wish for the Mets

not watch the Mets.

bad typing days lately

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