With a day off before game six of the ALCS -- and this series has the chance to go down in history as one of the better league championship series, having already produced at least three "instant classics", let's spend today looking toward next year.
As most of you probably already know, ACTA Sports publishes, each year, the Bill James Handbook, which in addition to having complete stats for all players active in 2009, publishes projections for the following season based on a projection system that they are continually tweaking to attempt to make it as accurate as possible.
The good folks at ACTA sent me an advance copy of the projection pages from the handbook, in which Bill James first runs down the projections they did for 2009; some of them were missed badly (mostly due to injury -- Eric Chavez and Troy Glaus, for example), others (Mark Teixeira, Orlando Hudson and Evan Longoria are the examples they give) were pretty darn close. They projected Mike Fontenot to have 9 HR and 43 RBI -- exactly what he did have, except they thought he'd hit .288, instead of the .236 he actually hit. For Geovany Soto, they missed badly -- the James system had him at .289, with a .499 SLG, 35 doubles, 23 HR and 89 RBI. I think you can imagine how much better the Cubs' season would have been if they had been right about Geo.
Continue after the jump to find some of their projections for 2010. I'm not only going to post a few of the projections for Cubs players that they sent me, but also some projections for some of the possible acquisitions we have discussed here at BCB, mainly some of the hitters that have been talked about in potential Milton Bradley deals. (Note: doing this doesn't mean I'm endorsing any particular acquisition, simply posting some numbers for players we've speculated about.)

Derrek Lee: .291/.378/.516, 40 doubles, 30 HR, 98 RBI, 94 runs Aramis Ramirez: .292/.364/.514, 32 doubles, 26 HR, 97 RBI, 76 runs Alfonso Soriano: .263/.320/.487, 35 doubles, 30 HR, 77 RBI, 85 runs Kosuke Fukudome: .265/.365/.427, 39 doubles, 13 HR, 61 RBI, 76 runs Geovany Soto: .273/.361/.469, 31 doubles, 20 HR, 79 RBI, 58 runs
Well. If those come true, the Cubs will score a ton of runs in 2010; that's 389 runs from just five players. Now, some of the starting rotation -- acknowledging, as James points out, that pitcher projections are done very differently than hitter projections due to the nature of pitching statistics:
Carlos Zambrano: 29 starts, 180 IP, 80 BB, 151 K, 12-8, 3.60 Ryan Dempster: 30 starts, 195 IP, 81 BB, 167 K, 12-10, 3.83 Ted Lilly: 25 starts, 170 IP, 56 BB, 144 K, 11-8, 3.76 Randy Wells: 30 starts, 188 IP, 60 BB, 147 K, 10-10, 4.16 Carlos Marmol: 74 games, 73 IP, 45 BB, 84 K, 5-3, 3.45, 34 saves
And, apparently, give up a ton of runs and finish barely over .500. For some reason, they also project Wells to have 14 HBP and 19 other major league pitchers to have 15 or more -- that seems way off, considering that only one pitcher (Dave Bush) had 15 in 2009 and that Wells himself had only 6 HBP in the season just ended.
Now, here are some projections for some -- not all -- of the players we have discussed here as possible 2010 new Cubs, enough to get some discussion going:
Magglio Ordonez: .311/.376/.476, 32 doubles, 17 HR, 84 RBI, 70 runs Curtis Granderson: .275/.353/.491, 30 doubles, 11 triples, 27 HR, 76 RBI, 106 runs, 17 SB Michael Young: .299/.352/.443, 37 doubles, 16 HR, 80 RBI, 88 runs Vernon Wells: .271/.327/.443, 33 doubles, 19 HR, 77 RBI, 77 runs Aaron Rowand: .267/.327/.423, 37 doubles, 17 HR, 72 RBI, 74 runs Carlos Beltran: .282/.375/.490, 33 doubles, 24 HR, 91 RBI, 92 runs Mark DeRosa: .260/.335/.418, 27 doubles, 17 HR, 71 RBI, 76 runs
And, because you'll ask:
Milton Bradley: .276/.384/.450, 25 doubles, 18 HR, 64 RBI, 74 runs
James' system projects Bradley to play 133 games and have 467 AB; both of those would be the second-highest totals of his career. Note also that (presumably) the projections for players who the Cubs might acquire are based on their current home parks; playing with Wrigley Field as their home park would likely result in different projections.
There are complete projections in the book, which is available November 1 and which you can pre-order at the link at the top of this post -- we can discuss whatever players you want in this post, but I'm not going to spend a lot of time typing out projections for others, so don't ask. Full disclosure: ACTA Sports is sending me a copy of the book.
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I don't care if Bradley wins the triple crown (fat chance)
I still wouldn’t want him on my team.
Ace Venom - October 23, 2009
I wouldn't either, and...
…. I think a year from now, we’ll see that projection is way off, particularly for the amount of playing time.
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
You're probably right
Bradley will go nuclear at some point.
Ace Venom - October 23, 2009
Agree...
…I project big DL time for Bradley in 2010.
MPH73 - October 23, 2009
I would
Doggie Stalker - October 23, 2009
+1
I have a feeling that Milton’s personality issues would magically disappear if he won the Triple Crown for the Cubs.
elgato - October 23, 2009
+2
(+1 for each of you). :)
CubsWin!Oregon - October 23, 2009
winning cures many problems
Cubbie-Tim - October 24, 2009
would u want him on your team if he wins your team a world series ....
lexmarklover - October 23, 2009
So far, no team he has played on has done that...
… and I don’t think Bradley by himself is the difference-maker between winning and not winning a WS.
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
well .... if winning the triple crown means going to the playoffs then sure i'd take him
if a pitcher wins 25 games in a season but has attitude problems, would you take him? Damn right i would if he contributes to a team.
lexmarklover - October 23, 2009
This doesn't seem like a rational statement
nji232 - October 23, 2009
that's one of the most ridiculous things I've seen posted on this site
Milton WON’T ever win the Triple Crown. But you wouldn’t want a Triple Crown winner on your team because he’s kind of a jerk?
I can see not wanting someone like Barry Bonds for moral reasons. But there’s no evidence that Milton ever cheated. And, as I said below, if Milton won the Triple Crown, I have a feeling his personality issues would have magically disappeared.
elgato - October 23, 2009
Your "if" has flawed reasoning.
Milton Bradley is not capable of winning the Triple Crown.
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
that's what I said in the first sentence, Al
He clearly won’t win the Triple Crown. But you really wouldn’t want him on the Cubs if he did? That was Ace’s statement. “I don’t care if Bradley wins the Triple Crown.”
I was addressing Ace’s hypothetical.
elgato - October 23, 2009
Oh, I get it now.
Sorry, kind of lost the thread there. Apologies.
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
it's cool
I hope Bradley’s gone, too, because I don’t think he’s capable of a mental recovery in Chicago to the point where he can be a productive player, let alone win a Triple Crown. Bridges burned, and all that.
But to say that a Triple Crown winner who hasn’t done anything worse than being an ass on numerous occasions should NOT be a Cub is not clear thinking.
elgato - October 23, 2009
Not like he'd ever do it
The saying is just to show how much I want him gone.
Ace Venom - October 23, 2009
OK -- I gotcha
You were exaggerating to make a point.
elgato - October 23, 2009
Bingo
I didn’t think it was too difficult to figure out, but I was wrong again.
Ace Venom - October 23, 2009
hard to detect tone
But no biggie.
elgato - October 23, 2009
Regardless of position,
Beltran looks to be the RBI/power guy and Magglio looks to be next best that would fit what we need. Anyone have a preference?
mrcubsfan - October 23, 2009
If Magglio could put up those numbers...
… I think he’d be the right choice. You’d have to either make sure he doesn’t get the 540 PA he’d need for his 2011 option to vest, or be OK with paying him for 2011.
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
That is an awful game of chicken...
to be playing, don’t you think?
Damen Jackson - October 23, 2009
Not really.
At Maggs’ age, you’d think he’d need some rest anyway, and probably would be more productive if he played about as much, or a little less, than he did in 2009 — 518 PA.
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
I tell you what...
If Ordonez was willing to redo his contract for a modest guaranteed 2011 contract — with the understanding that otherwise the Cubs would be prepared to sit him — then this makes some sense. Maybe. Past that, it just seems like doubling down on stupid to risk committing 18 million a year for the next two seasons to Mags.
Damen Jackson - October 23, 2009
Who knows?
There might be room for negotiation, especially since the Tigers seem motivated to move him.
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
IF Magglio becomes a Cubbie...
… will Cubbie fans call him “Fagglio” like they did when he was a White Sox player?
DrCrawdad - October 23, 2009
Only if he plays in right field.
Bunch of haters out there.
Goodie1969 - October 23, 2009
or if he goes to a school
those damn racist teachers…
jesus christos - October 23, 2009
I thought that is what the Sox fans call him now
nji232 - October 23, 2009
Yup
I never heard cubs fans call him that, but, sadly, I’m sure they did. But when I was at a Sox-Tigers game last year a couple guys the row behind me kept referring to him as such.
shoemile - October 23, 2009
They did.
DrCrawdad - October 23, 2009
Wow.
You must have a huge list of those. That link is dated 2003.
Al Yellon - October 24, 2009
No, simply used Google
DrCrawdad - October 24, 2009
Try Googling
“Obsession.”
Goodie1969 - October 24, 2009
Al Yellon - October 24, 2009
Why?
DrCrawdad - October 24, 2009
So some random blogger uses that term six years ago...
…and you imply he represents all Cubs fans. Why do this?
daver - October 24, 2009
I said that?
I have heard Cubbie fans say that, quite a few times. Was it all Cubbie fans? No. I don’t think all Cubbie fans would say it nor a majority, but many did say it.
You’re right though about a random observation and swiping a large group from that random observation. However, that’s some people’s favorite here. I’d like to hear you pipe in the next time someone here encounters one or two Sox fans and draws conclusions on all Sox fans (for examples, see Al Yellon’s comments on the 2005 post-season.)
DrCrawdad - October 24, 2009
Lemme guess...those Cubs fans were sitting in the bleachers at Wrigley Field...
…or maybe in a bar somewhere. Again, I’d ask: Why bring it up? What’s the point of discussing the behavior of idiots?
And I’ll keep an eye out for people acting the same way toward Sox fans but, again, most of those who make such remarks aren’t worth responding to. I don’t recall the comments by Al that you’re referring to but something tells me they weren’t all that bad.
daver - October 24, 2009
I wanted Beltran 4 years ago...
…Badly. If he’s healthy, I’d love to have his bat in the middle of the lineup. Can we afford him? I have a hard time thinking the Mets would take Bradley for him though. I’m all for keeping Kosuke in RF so I’m torn between Beltran and Granderson. Not too sold on Maggs in RF, I think we can do better than that.
TeddyThunder - October 23, 2009
I think we're fairly delusional to think Bradley could net us Beltran without giving up plenty more
Sure, he’s been injured. But when healthy he’s a top 3-CF. A healthy Bradley isn’t necessarily a top RF, and that’s a much easier position to fill. I live in NY and I’m fairly certain Mets fans would commit a mutiny if this kind of trade happened.
I have no idea how this Beltran stuff got started in the first place – anyone have a clue? Google isn’t showing me anything, so this screams “Cubs fans like to believe other teams exist to give us their best players”.
This is Milton Bradley, the guy who ruined the 2009 Cubs, remember? And the Mets, one of the most harsh environments to play in, where fans boo you the first time you do something wrong.
madcow256 - October 24, 2009
Ironically
Granderson has the highest SLG out there. If he’s on the trading block AT ALL, Jim should be talking to Detroit a ton.
DGU - October 23, 2009
He's very good,
but he absolutely must be platooned.
dakoose - October 23, 2009
25 starts for Lilly?
That seems pretty low. Apparently James is predicting another injury.
Shanghai Badger - October 23, 2009
I hope not
Lilly is key to the success of this rotation, he is another year older however, hopefully he has no lingering effects from the shoulder injury last season.
tripdenten - October 23, 2009
Lilly will be pitching for a contract
Which makes me think he’ll make at least 30 starts.
elgato - October 23, 2009
IIRC, he's had that issue before, so I'd think he'd be ok
I’m hoping for 200+ innings
Shanghai Badger - October 23, 2009
Bill James has a good racket going.
People pay good money for his off the wall guesses.
Clark Addison - October 23, 2009
Yeah...
The guy lost me when he fashioned Ronny Cedeno as a .300 hitter a few seasons ago.
Damen Jackson - October 23, 2009
At least he admits when he's wrong.
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
I can appreciate that....
I just don’t consider it quite the gospel that I used to, is all.
Damen Jackson - October 23, 2009
Eh?
He should be an umpire then. Lots of practice in these here playoffs, pardner!
Zeke - October 23, 2009
James' projections aren't very good as projections go
they just have the value of being the first ones out.
DGU - October 23, 2009
"off the wall"?
??
CubsWin!Oregon - October 23, 2009
Complex algorithms, walls - it's all the same in Clark Addison's world.
Trying to get him to understand one would be like you banging your head against the other.
Wreckard - October 23, 2009
I saw that album at a rummage sale last week
Shanghai Badger - October 23, 2009
James is a smart dude...
…but there isn’t any human (or machine) that I go running to read their projections for next year.
It’s all interesting stuff, but I’d rather see what happens on the field.
MPH73 - October 23, 2009
I'll take those numbers from Soriano and Soto
That probably puts us back as the class of the NL Central
nji232 - October 23, 2009
I'd be interested in the projections for Theriot
Also, if the Cubs score so many runs, I have a hard time thinking we won’t have a starting pitcher with more than 12 wins.
Oh, and the Soriano projection seems right, for some reason.
elgato - October 23, 2009
Theriot
.284/.352/.357, 26 doubles, 4 HR, 50 RBI, 84 runs, 21 SB
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
thanks, Al
elgato - October 23, 2009
ahh... but how many "caught stealings"? ;-)
ballhawk - October 23, 2009
probably 21
and about 40 other examples of being thrown out on the bases running like an idiot.
nji232 - October 23, 2009
Actually, the projected number of CS for Theriot was 10.
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
Interesting...
The projections for the Cubs’ pitchers are basically all of their numbers from this season, with Wells’ ERA being higher. Personally, I expect better from both Z and Dempster. It will be interesting to see how Wells pitches in his second season as well, since most of the league will have seen him.
As for the players we could aquire, I am shocked James projects Vernon Wells to do that well, considering he has played like garbage most of the last few seasons.
It is encouraging that he expects Lee to put up big numbers again, we’ll need him. Also, I find it curious that he has Ramirez only hitting 27 HR over a full season. If healthy (that’s the key) he should hit more. Lastly, no way Soriano drives in 77 RBI, he has yet to do that so far as a Cub, the average is probably a little high too, 30 HR is realistic, if he’s healthy.
tripdenten - October 23, 2009
Soriano's RBI total
I’m guessing that’s based on Soriano hitting sixth, not first.
Ramirez’s HR total is probably about right coming off the shoulder injury. But I’d predict more RBIs.
elgato - October 23, 2009
I think the Soriano RBI total...
… is based on him leading off for most of the last few seasons. If he hits 5th or 6th in 2010, he’s likely to drive in a lot MORE runs. Remember, Soriano has also been injured for significant portions of all of his Cub seasons so far.
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
Valid points
I totally spaced on Soriano hitting 6th. Hopefully, that’s where he stays, and that is where he belongs. See what happens when you don’t watch the Cubs for a few weeks!
tripdenten - October 23, 2009
I wouldn't.
While I would certainly expect a healthy (knock on wood) Soriano to have a lot more chances to hit with RISP if he’s hitting 5th or 6th, there’s not a lot of track record to suggest he’ll do a whole lot with those chances.
Sori with RISP
’09: .216
’08: .276
’07: .248
’06: .231
’05: .235
’04: .253
Basically, he’s the anti ARam:
’09: .425
’08: .310
’07: .338
’06: .293
’05: .285
’04: .336
Don’t get me wrong… Sori can be a useful player if healthy (the big caveat, obviously). But a real “RBI man”? Doubtful.
fsuapollo - October 23, 2009
the .276 isn't horrible
But otherwise, eeh …
elgato - October 23, 2009
Seems uncanny that his best year with RISP
Was the year many Cubs had career years. However, the .216 is a bit … eurgh!
Vermont Cubs Fan - October 24, 2009
Hey Al ...
Whar are the projections for Harden?
elgato - October 23, 2009
Or Gregg?
Joking, kind of.
tripdenten - October 23, 2009
would be interesting ...
elgato - October 23, 2009
Here you go.
Harden: 24 starts, 135 IP, 59 BB, 147 K, 10-5, 3.33
Gregg: 67 games, 65 IP, 27 BB, 60 K, 4-3, 4 saves, 3.60
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
I'm interested to see where Gregg lands
… and how much money he’ll earn.
elgato - October 23, 2009
how did you forget the great Aaron Miles
and what he is projected
Cubbie-Tim - October 24, 2009
Because this projection is way off.
Aaron Miles: .274 .318 .363, 6 doubles, 1 triple, 1 HR, 10 RBI, 15 runs, 7 BB, 15 K (124 at-bats)
Al Yellon - October 24, 2009
definitely worth $2.7 million
elgato - October 24, 2009
atleast hell double his RBI production next year!
jesus christos - October 24, 2009
How many blown saves for Gregg?
Vermont Cubs Fan - October 24, 2009
Homeruns...
…and lot’s of them.
MPH73 - October 23, 2009
Lee outhitting Aramis? I would love to see those two have those kind of seasons.
And that pitching projection lineup is pretty crappy. 12 wins is the best we can do from a starter?
I’d take Granderson, Young, or Beltran. The rest look like carbon copies of players we already have.
dtpollitt - October 23, 2009
If Ramirez is healthy...
…he will outhit Lee.
MPH73 - October 23, 2009
Not if Lee hits like he did this year.
If they’re both fully healthy, Lee edges Rami, I think, but maybe Rami hasn’t ever been fully healthy, so I could be off.
DGU - October 23, 2009
Lee impressed me this year...
…and I hope he can keep it up, but I just think Ramirez is the Cub’s best pure hitter and has been for several years.
If it is one AB, and the Cubs need a single, double or homerun to win, I want Ramirez up there as my number one choice.
MPH73 - October 23, 2009
Yep.
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
One thing we all got our first taste of
when he hit the Grand Slam off of Dontrelle Willis in the NLCS…
…Aramis Ramirez has a flair for the dramatic.
Goodie1969 - October 23, 2009
Not to mention the several walkoffs and game-winners he's had in the last three years.
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
Ramirez may be more clutch
but Lee has shown an ability to dominate consistently now for two of his Cub seasons.
DGU - October 23, 2009
Agreed
I really have no idea what either one is going to do next year. But those two big years Lee had are undoubtedly better than anything Aramis has done.
shoemile - October 23, 2009
Not really
See Aramis’ numbers from 2006: .291, 38 HR, 119 RBI. That was better than what Lee did this season. Look at Rami’s numbers from 2004-2008, much better than Lee’s numbers over the same time period, and more consistent.
tripdenten - October 24, 2009
Hence why I wasn't talking about over a time period, just specific years
in 2006 Aramis’ ops was 912. This year Lee’s ops was 972. I don’t see much of a debate here.
shoemile - October 24, 2009
I do
OPS is an overrated statistic, Milton Bradley led all of baseball in OPS in 2008, Lee has not consistently produced or “dominated” anything, he is a good player. but the bottom line is that Ramirez is a better and more consistent run producer. Lee having two nice seasons four years apart is nothing special. To be considered a better hitter than Rami, he’ll have to be more consistent. Hopefully, he will continue to play at this high level.
tripdenten - October 25, 2009
Of course Ramirez is a more consistent "run producer."
He gets to bat behind Derek Lee! Lee gets to bat behind the number 2 hitter (which back in the Dusty Baker era included such marvels as Neifi Perez.)
cwyers - October 25, 2009
Wins are hard to project
Mostly because they’re a meaningless statistic.
Wreckard - October 23, 2009
I think it's odd ...
that James predicts so much offense from the Cubs but so few wins by the team’s starters. Wins are an odd stat — but generally, pitchers win more when the offense scores for them.
elgato - October 23, 2009
I didn't really look...
… but maybe the relief pitchers got more wins. Individual wins don’t mean that much in this era of specialization.
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
I wouldn't pay attention to a projection for win totals
If the offense is projected to be so good, and the aggregated ERA of the rotation, as shown above, is 3.84; I guarantee that the starters will have a lot more than 12 wins max.
vivaelpujols - October 23, 2009
Huh.
Cubs starters had a 3.71 ERA in 2009. Yet no Cub starter won more than 12 games. Just because of the poor offense? I guess, but wins could go to relievers, too.
Team wins are what matters.
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
The Cubs offense was pretty miserable last year
As you can see, it projects to be much better this year, so the pitchers win totals will go up. The Cubs look like a pretty damn good team next year, just gotta get some bullpen help.
vivaelpujols - October 23, 2009
This is why I was so confused.
Great years offensively usually equates to more Ws for pitchers.
dtpollitt - October 23, 2009
I don't think projections are concerned with accurately predicting individual win totals
Mainly because they don’t really matter. So they don’t consider the fact that the Cubs offense is much better, or should be much better, when projecting win totals.
vivaelpujols - October 23, 2009
Chris Young?
daver - October 24, 2009
Nevermind - just realized you probably meant Michael Young.
daver - October 24, 2009
Maybe it was Dennis DeYoung?
ballhawk - October 24, 2009
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daver - October 26, 2009
Lee outhitting Aramis? I would love to see those two have those kind of seasons.
And that pitching projection lineup is pretty crappy. 12 wins is the best we can do from a starter?
I’d take Granderson, Young, or Beltran. The rest look like carbon copies of players we already have.
dtpollitt - October 23, 2009
What you have to realize is...
…that the projection is the median of what’s expected. IOW, each of those pitchers has a certain chance of, say, winning 15 games, to where AS A GROUP is is likely that one of them will, but it’s difficult to say which one. Certainly guys like Zambrano are more likely than guys like Wells. But pitcher wins depend on a lot out outside variables (offensive/bullpen support, etc.) and are a lot harder to predict than things like K and BB rate.
cwyers - October 23, 2009
Shouldn't...
… the James prediction system take into account the (presumed) players who are going to be on the team, the projected runs they will score, and the projected runs allowed by the (presumed) pitchers who are going to be on the team, to calculate projected pitcher wins?
Maybe they do; the book doesn’t really explain the system.
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
Even on the same team...
…the amount of offensive support a pitcher gets tends to vary greatly, mostly at random.
And shouldn’t they? They should, sure. But I doubt they do. I don’t know how it is this year, but there have been problems in years past where the hitter projections and pitcher projections don’t reconcile – in other words, the hitters are expected to hit more home runs than the pitchers are expected to allow.
(As background – James does not believe in projecting pitchers; others at BIS do pitcher projections that are included in the Handbook, but the people doing the two projections don’t interact AFAICT.)
cwyers - October 23, 2009
Does that make the projections invalid, somehow?
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
Yeah, you're right Colin on the median point.
I shouldn’t have used just wins; there is nary a 200 K nor a 200 IP pitcher in the group, either, which surprised me.
dtpollitt - October 23, 2009
There are very few players who are actually projected to pitch over 200 innings
Only guys like Sabatathia, Wainwright, Halladay, etc. are projected to do so.
vivaelpujols - October 23, 2009
36 starting pitchers threw 200 or more innings in 2009.
How many did James project for 2010? I didn’t count, but it couldn’t have been anywhere near that many.
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
No, you're right
There are probably 10-15 pitchers projected for over 200 innings. The main reasons are regression (pitchers who pitch 200 innings one year generally had a great year, and those players tend to get worse the next year, thus pitch fewer innings) and injury risk.
vivaelpujols - October 23, 2009
Right, but...
.. the number of pitchers throwing 200 innings or more has been pretty stable for a few years now (2006: 45, 2007: 38, 2008: 34, 2009: 36), so to have that drop to 10-15 seems just plain wrong.
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
It still boils down to Colin's point about median numbers
If you look at the number of pitchers who pitched 200 innings in EACH of those years than the number is likely a lot smaller
berselius - October 23, 2009
It's not the # of pitchers who do it
It’s the problem in picking which ones will do it. Only a dozen are so pitchers I’d feel confident betting they are likely to hit 200 IP.
DGU - October 23, 2009
Yes, I see what you two mean.
Al Yellon - October 24, 2009
You have to factor in the chance of missing the majority of the season...
…to some kind of injury, if nothing else.
cwyers - October 24, 2009
Thanks Al!
Thanks for posting this. I love this sort of stuff and it was just the distraction I was wanting. If only next year wasn’t so far away! :(
CubsWin!Oregon - October 23, 2009
You don't have to type it out if you don't want to, but
I’d be curious how Fontenot and Baker compare to DeRosa in their projections.
DGU - October 23, 2009
Lest we feel downcast about the Cubs possibilities next year...
I thought I’d pass along James’s projections for the Giants (via McCovey Chronicles).
The commentary to go along with them is pretty funny.
CubsWin!Oregon - October 23, 2009
Yowza
Combined projected wins for Z, Lilly, Demp & Wells is 45? That 5th starter better be a candidate for the Cy Young if James is right and the Cubs will contend for anything.
As for the possible swaps, all of the CF’s are a better option than MB and allow Dome back to RF, though I’m scared of the Wells contract.
N Oakley - October 23, 2009
How did James' projections compare with the Cubs' numbers in 2009?
Has anyone looked at that? I’d be interested to see Fnt
elgato - October 23, 2009
ugh ...
to see Fontenot and Soto’s projections.
elgato - October 23, 2009
I wonder what O.Hudson
numbers are projected at. He has stated he will not be back in L.A., read that today in the USA. I would like him at second.
Grockcubs - October 23, 2009
No thanks.
He’s the NL version of Chone Figgins — someone who a team will gladly overpay. Let it be someone else.
Ask yourself this: if Hudson is so good, why was Ronnie Belliard at 2B during the playoffs?
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
Well
he lasted until, If I am not mistaken, February of 09 until he signed with the Dodgers for a 1 year deal. I doubt if he will get any multi year offers. To me he is an upgrade over Fontenot, Blanco, Miles combo. Now if there other options out there fine, but I think a upgrade at second is needed.
Grockcubs - October 23, 2009
so is baker and he is cheaper
jesus christos - October 23, 2009
To be honest
and my mistake I for some reason forgot about Baker. How could I, I don’t know. He did play well since coming over from the Rockies. I don’t know for some reason I like O. Hudson.
We will see, Good catch, my bad.
Grockcubs - October 23, 2009
i dont know the differences between baker and o dawg in defense
but they would probably put up similar numbers offensively
jesus christos - October 23, 2009
I find that comparison kinda odd
a) No one had huge interest in Hudson last year … and he somewhat struggled to end the year.
b) Two different types of players – offensively (and defensively).
c) Most people think Hudson is on the hard downward slope, while Figgins is expected to age well. Hudson’s defense is slipping as well.
I think these are two different players, and that they will generate two different markets this offseason. I expect the bidding on Figgins to be hot and heavy … and I wouldn’t be surprised if Hudson lasted quite awhile on the market, perhaps signing a one year deal again.
toonsterwu - October 23, 2009
Ricketts family taking over Cubs next week!
ESPN
china423 - October 23, 2009
applause
vonde6 - October 23, 2009
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Goodie1969 - October 23, 2009
umm... you do know what the next line is in that little ditty, don't you? ;-)
ballhawk - October 23, 2009
Al Yellon - October 23, 2009
Nice.
daver - October 24, 2009
Feel free to steal it.
Al Yellon - October 24, 2009
I'll add it to the BCB Flickr group.
daver - October 24, 2009
How are these done?
Is this the system that takes the average of the last three years and uses that as a projection? Regardless of what system that one is, it’s awful.
kanderber - October 23, 2009
That's Marcel
It weights the years and adds in a little regression and aging, but it’s basically a weighted average. Surprisingly (or perhaps not so surprisingly) it does a decent job, considering. It’s used as a baseline for the other projection systems
berselius - October 23, 2009
get rid of Bradley
Milton Bradley was horrible with the cubs. We should get a good deal out of this trade.
brians rams - October 26, 2009
Bad Karma
I just got The Bill James Handbook in the mail today. That is one big book of numbers. I flipped open the book to a random page. What did I hit? Milton Bradley on the top of the page…Is that bad karma or what?
RiskyBusiness - October 30, 2009
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