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Will The Yankees Choke? World Series Game 6 Preview, Phillies vs. Yankees, Wednesday 11/4, 6:57 CT

This is the first World Series that's gone this far in six years, since 2003 -- also involving the Yankees, who lost to the Marlins in six games that year.

Joe Girardi, whose management of his pitching staff has come under justified criticism during the postseason, will roll the dice and have Andy Pettitte start on three days' rest tonight -- something Pettitte hasn't done since 2007, and that was a strange circumstance where he threw four innings in a start, pitched an inning of relief with two days' rest, then started again with one day off. (See Pettitte's 2007 game log for details; it happened in April.)

Pedro Martinez will go for the Phillies. Pedro pitched well enough to win in game two; that day, A. J. Burnett shut the Philly offense down. Meanwhile, the Phillies hit Pettitte pretty hard in game three on Saturday; Jayson Werth homered off him twice and Pettitte also issued three walks in six innings, throwing 104 pitches, a Zambrano-like outing. If the Phillies are patient tonight, I believe we'll see one last 2009 game tomorrow, and Girardi will have to go with yet another pitcher on three days' rest, CC Sabathia, going on three days' rest for the second time in this series after having not done that all season. Sabathia is approaching 270 innings pitched this season; that might be too many even for a "horse" like him.

It'd be nice to see a seven-game World Series, no matter who wins. We don't get to see enough winner-take-all games in baseball; in the last ten seasons, going back to 2000, there have been only 13 such games in all the playoff rounds, out of 70 postseason series.

Star-divide

Phillies at Yankees, 6:57 pm CDT. Yankees lead series 3-2. TV: Fox. Announcers: Joe Buck and Tim McCarver.

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agreed on a Game 7, Al

Let’s go Phils!

Go Philly and let it all ride on game #7!
Two of those games involved the Cubs
It’d be nice to see a seven-game World Series, no matter who wins. We don’t get to see enough winner-take-all games in baseball; in the last ten seasons, going back to 2000, there have been only 13 such games in all the playoff rounds, out of 70 postseason series.

I agree – a game 7 would be great. I suppose if the Yankees win, they can combine the parade with Macy’s . . . seems like it’s the next day, anyway . . . .

Yes. Inflate CC Sabathia with some (OK, a LOT) of helium...

…and let kids walk down the street with him tethered on long ropes like a parade balloon…

But for God's sake don't give them any pins...
Will The Yankees Choke?

 
YES

and tomorrow

YES

Go Phillies!

Regarding choking, remember ...

 “You can’t really dust for vomit.” – Nigel Tufnel

Aw hell, I was wrong about the choke...
People were criticizing Manuel for not starting Lee

I think he did the right thing, 20/20 hindsight of course, but Girardi did screw up and should have went with Gaudin

Possibly.

But by not pitching him on short rest, he will not be able start game 7. Time will tell.

Just a question, why do you all hate so much the Yankees ?
Be the Yankees isn’t the goal of all the 29 other franchises ?

I don't hate the Yankees per se

1) I was born in Philadelphia

2) I dislike the AL, mainly because of the DH

3) I’ve never “liked” New York as a city

So if I can’t root for the Cubs, then the Phillies are my second choice. If the series was the Cards vs. the Yankees, then my answer would, in all likelihood, be very different.

Because they are the evil empire

and represent all that is bad in an ecomony and a game where you can spend more moiney that anyone else (by far) in an attempt to buy a championship.

This is known in some circles as "capitalism"....

it’s really not so evil.

It is capitalism, but in sports, emphasis is on

competition, fair play, and one set of rules.

In a league famous for segregation, the reserve clause, draft for domestic players, soft salary caps, a government sponsored monopoly, gerrymandered broadcast rights, 25 man rosters, Type A/B free agents, Rule V Draft, and no beer sales after the 7th inning stretch; what does capitalism have to do with Major League Baseball?

There are not a different set of rules for how the Yankess are allowed to spend their money.

They have certain advantages that other organizations do not, but you cannot simply say that because these advantages exist they are “not playing fair”. The New York Yankees have built a fanbase in the same market as the Mets, yet no one labels the Mets as an “evil empire”. I bristle at this ever prevalent idea that being good/successful at something is grounds for punishment.

Well...

Every few years, you can look and say, “Oh. The Yankees are in the mix again.” I hate that I can’t say it about the Cubs.

More like every few years you can look and say,

“Oh. The Yankees aren’t in the mix. Weird.”

That’s why I hate them.

No, that's not the goal.

Being the Red Sox is the goal.

And i also think we can’t laugh at the Yankees choking… because we’re cubs fans, remember ?

you know for all the Cubs choke jobs

They never blew a 3-0 lead. A 3-1 lead sure, but not a 3-0 lead.

So we have that going for us
I don't know if they will choke...

…but they may get beat.

The Philly bullpen

Could be their undoing tonight, unfortunately. Manuel doesn’t really trust any of them, and Lidge is a total nightmare.

Pedro will go 6…maybe 7 innings tonight.

Hope the Phils brought the heavy lumber to NY. Howard needs to wake up at the dish…can’t rely on Chase “Mr. November” Utley to do it alone.

I predict Ibanez will have a big night....

and this will cause me to grit my teeth and curse MB’s signing under my breath.

Let go, my friend.

For your family’s sake, just let go. It’s pretty liberating.

While Milton Bradley laughs his way to the bank
Sure.

But I have accepted the fact that he fleeced all of us who bought tickets, beers and paraphernalia and moved on. There’s nothing we can [lawfully] do anymore but hope for an improved 2010.

I seriously doubt Milton laughs that much...
I'm sure Milton laughs

But what he laughs at is not funny, e.g. Roseanne Bar.

...the "life-alert" lady, kids in wheelchairs, Paul Sullivan's haircut....

wait, that last one is funny.

Now you're telling me he gets it cut? Really?
I'm not consumed with angst over it...

just annoyed when I’m reminded of how much better the other alternative would have been.

Of the 4 options last offseason

Bradley, Abreu, Dunn, and Ibanez…Hendry picked the worst one. Many people saw it coming, too. I was hopeful at the time, and Iike everyone else, disappointed by the outcome.

You dump him, you live, you learn.

Your compatriot thinks alike:

By the way, why did she sing the National Anthem the other night? I imagine if I sang “Oh, Canada,” not too many people would be happy.

Spahn and Sain and pray for rain
Unlikely for Game 6

Game 6
Game 7

Looks like rain very possible tomorrow.
Also, the aerial photo of Yankee Stadium on that link...

… is the old Yankee Stadium.

Cliff Lee and CC Sabathia have pitched an almost identical amount of innings

over the last two seasons. CC gets called a “horse,” but Lee has been just as durable. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Cliff Lee get a few innings in Game 7 (if necessary). Lee may be older, but he also has about 700 fewer MLB IP…a benefit of delayed success?

But really, I’m not really sure what to say about Girardi’s rotation. He’s taken a risk for which he’ll be celebrated if it works out and castigated if the Yankees wind up losing. That’s a rare move for a modern manager.

Would you go with your three best starters maybe not at their best, or risk putting Chad Gaudin or Sergio Mitre out there? As Cubs fans, we should know that that choice isn’t as hard as it seems.

What’s ridiculous to me is that the YANKEES are in that position. Seriously, those are their options? I know that Chien-Ming Wang was terrible/injured and Phil Hughes was moved to the bullpen and that Joba Chamberlain was deemed not good enough to start in the postseason (HE’S ONLY 24)…but I’m totally hoping that Pettite and Sabathia are terrible for the schadenfreude factor. $208,097,414 in salary and their best 4th starter options for the playoffs are Chad Gaudin and Sergio Mitre.

I know Burnett said short rest didn’t have anything to do with his pitching only 2 innings in Game 5…but are we really going to believe that?

Well, I actually picked the Yankees in six.

So I’m kinda hoping they win tonight…just so I’m right. I do agree that, from a purely baseball fan’s perspective, a seven-game series would give us all the maximum return on investment.

I'm hoping the Phillies win tonight

because I can’t watch tonight, but can tomorrow night. I want to be able to witness the last meaningful baseball for the next 150 days!

For as disappointing of a season as it was for us Cubs fans....

…and as boring as the regular season was overall, the WS is paying us back right now.

I am hoping for a Game 7 with Mariano Rivera on the mound and Chase Utley at the plate with everything on the line!

I'd be down with that last AB situation
I want Eyre to strike out A-Rod with the bases loaded and two out in the 9th

with the Phillies up by a run in the 9th inning of game 7.

There better be more people on the boards tonight.

Last game was pathetic.

Your wish

Is apparently not granted…

hard to get excited at all about any baseball without the Cubs

All but impossible. It’s maybe why no one tunes in

I am lurking around.

I don’t like it so far.

And it just got worse
I really hate living in New York on days like this
I'll bet.

Still, it’s got a hell of a lot going for it.

Coulda been a *lot* worse

Pettite doesn’t look like he has his best stuff, either. String together a couple of hits and this could be worth watching again.

Not over yet, but

The Phils scoring soon would be nice

something happen to damon?
pulled calf muscle
hey swl

I am drinking a beer in a place in del mar tonight.

I'm drinking chocolate milk in my kitchen.
any sexy women around?
Not until my wife gets back from picking up the kids from church.
which team was she praying for?
She doesn't really give a crap....

and more importantly, neither does God.

I hate the Yankees....

And yet I wish the Cubs were that good. Oh well, wait till next year.

matsui is not very good-looking.
pock marks scream sexiness
Well, that pretty much does it

Ballgame, Yankees.

Start spreading the news....
only a matter of time until buck says "Yankees are world champions" as if he were reading it off a piece of paper
I hope Joba grooves one here
does he do anything else
Odds on when Rivera comes in

I say top of the 8th… Over/under?

girardi isnt putting him in for 2 innings anymore

bout time

he went 2 innings

in game 2

also went 2.1 innings against Angels

along with another 2 inning game. You may see him warming up this inning…

by that i meant now

as in game 6 and 7

Did you see where he was celebrating winning game 4?

He blew the flippin’ save!

I'm cornfused

who are you talking about? Rivera got the save in game 4

Chamberlain got the win

And talked about how exciting it was to win a WS game

Lets go PHILLIES.

KEEP THE PHAITH!

Utley needs # 6 here.
DJ Hero tie-in?

Somebody tell Bud that the demographic desired there is probably already in bed on the eastern seaboard…

then again, Bud probably is as well...
Don't be silly

Seinfeld is on TBS, he’s obviously watching that.

Is it the episode where George thought George was dead...

…and went to pay his respects to Mr. & Mrs. Constanza

Estelle (crying): I can’t believe it, he was so young. How could this have happened?

Steinbrenner: Well, he’d been logging some pretty heavy hours, first one in in the morning, last one to leave at night. That kid was a human dynamo.

Estelle: Are you sure you’re talking about George?

Steinbrenner: You are Mr. and Mrs. Costanza?

Frank (yelling): What the hell did you trade Jay Buhner for?!? He had 30 home runs, over 100 RBIs last year, he’s got a rocket for an arm, you don’t know what the hell you’re doin’!!

Steinbrenner: Well, Buener was a good prospect, no question about it. But my baseball people love Ken Phelps’ bat. They kept saying ‘Ken Phelps , Ken Phelps’.
classic

actually it is the one about the puffy shirt…. But I don’t wanna be a pirate!

He's channel-surfing between that and Matlock
This sucks.

The last game of the year, and the Yankees are gonna win it.

New Yankee Stadium....

1 for 1 in World Series Titles.

its not over yet.
Hurry up! The Entry Deadline is almost here!

Last Out to First Pitch – The 2009-10 Offseason IT’S HAPPENING!!!??? Contest

Bumping-Your-Own-Thread!
Hmm.... I can see it now... newsflash with next SBN release

MTV and SBN announce a joint-online posting tutorial called “Pimp My Post”

Friggin awesome at-bat by Raul.
Thanks Stevie

BLNT

sooo
I'm gonna pour some gin.
I'm going for something harder....

I'm working, I'm working.
Bye 2009 baseball.

You were rather sucky. I’ll still miss you.

I have a new hope for 2010...

If the Cubs can’t be in the World Series next year, then I want the Yankees and Cardinals to meet. I realize on the surface that sounds like a Cubs fan’s nightmare, but hear me out.

I think Joe Buck and Tim McCarver would hyperventilate so much they’d permanently injure themselves. I mean, they wouldn’t know what to do – they’d be torn between their manlove for ARod/Jeter and their manlove for Tony/Pujols. I truly believe they’d end up like those fembots in Austin Powers – heads exploding and everything.

Now if only we can figure out how to get Joe Morgan in the booth with them…

It would go to 26 innings in Game 7, each team would run of pitchers and bench players...

and after a short meeting with the Umpires and Network Executives….Selig would call it a tie and both teams would share a WS title.

Worst part about this

Jerry Hairston Jr and Chad Gaudin are gonna get World Series Rings….and we thought it was a farce when Scott Eyre got one last year. Ugggh…I should be looking forward to Spring Training starting up again next year but this season left such a sour taste in my mouth. Not as bad as 2004-05, but still pretty bad.

They...are...not...on...our...team...any...more.

Who…cares.

Why do I think Yankee fans are the worst?

And who the HELL buys a $200 jersey that says “I LIV 4 THIS”??

ALL ABOUT THE RINGS MAN

27. The number of WS titles they have

also

27. Average IQ of a Yankee fan.

That's nearly 4 standard deviations below the norm.
Correction: Nearly 5.
this season officially sucks
sucked. past tense. it's over now.

Let’s win it again in 2010!

poop

::in memory of sue::

Another bought championship for the Yankees. ho hum

Don't pretend you wouldn't buy one for us if you could.
I'd sell my nonexistent soul for a World Series title
the cubs will be doing that sometime the century

maybe…

If I may channel my inner BLou

Not a chance in hell because Hendry will live forever to spend like a drunken sailor. Alfonso Soriano will be playing even worse at age 50 because he will extend the contract that far.

Goodbye, Baseball

See you in March

Those poor New Yorkers....

they almost had to wait 10 freaking years for a WS Championship.

Oh yeah

It really tears me up inside.

i dont how they can live...
Is Johnny Damon gonna cry?!!
Gonna? I think he had been, was, and will continue to.
Screw the Yankees

Now we have a whole offseason of listening to ESPN talk about the Yankees EVEN MORE.

jeters so awesome he was positioned perfectly for that line out
I wish

There was a way I could make you clean up the vomit that is now on my keyboard.

and the way he slapped the ball to right field

man…

"You really can't dust for vomit."
Yes you can. You only have to wait for it to dry.
PLEAES BOO BUD SELIG

DO ONE THING RIGHT YANKEE FANS

Fox’s baseball crew is horseshit. All of them.

I hope they wiped up when they were done...
It's been a while. It's been nine years...

Oh gosh, Hal. That’s not a while. Try not winning for as long as we have and see if that doesn’t chap your rear.

It's Been

Nine Whole Years.

How horrible for them.

How terrible

It’s such a tragedy.

I hope Bud Selig falls off the stage.

Bigger cheers for Pettitte than A-Rod.

Meh. I could do without either one.

who won MVP? I switched over to Letterman.

 Cosby is on now and they’re talking about World Series. Cosby is from Philly so it should be funny/interesting…

Matusi.
Is he related to Watusi? He can dance!
Why is everybody so jealous? I admire the Yankees.

This thread sounds like a bunch of small market fans….the Cubs have the money, the resources, the fans base. It’s going to be our turn eventually.

Sounds like a bunch of whiny Padres fans. The Yankees played by the rules as MLB sets them up. Big market teams SHOULD have advantages, and the Cubs, under new ownership should start taking advantage of this.

Blah

Who cares? It’s not us. That’s the point.

I'd be bitching about 80-90% of the teams winning.
Why is everybody so jealous?

Because we don’t have one.

Jealousy gets us nowhere.

I don’t see how whining helps.

does adulation?
Screw the Yankees
We can take a vote.

Who admires the Yankees?

vs.

Who wants to bitch about the Yankees?

Pretty easy to win a World Series when you outbid everyone for the best free agents on the market

We didn’t have that kind of money to throw around. How much better would we have been with just one of those players? Give me a break.

So freaking what?

Are they not playing by the rules?

Yep

And it’s the prime reason we need a salary cap.

Saying the exact same thing three times in a row doesn't convince me nor help the argument.
OK, fine.

You guys can mourn all you want.

You're making an argument nobody else here has brought up.

I’m bitching because I don’t like the Yankees’ 27 championships, A-Rod, etc. Nobody here has been arguing “Man, we need to spend more money like the Yankees!” The argument that we sound like a small-market team could be true for any other 29 baseball teams, it is not exclusive to Cubs fans.

A third possibility for the vote

Could not care one way or the other

Truly, this sounds like Padres

fans whining about the big bad Cubs and their fans taking over Petco park and it isn’t fair…..

This ain’t fair. We know that. But damn it, this franchise has done things right and spent the money they need to spend on what they needed.

Until MLB tells them to stop it, that’s the way it is.

And I will contend the Cubs COULD be the Yankees of the National League in the future.

Our forays into free agency generally don't work

That and the Yankees can outbid us for the best free agents. Do you see what’s happening here?

Its our own fault for our free agency forays not working

But as you say the top candidates go to the Yankees if they want them. No Questions asked.

where are the Cubs going to get the money to spend like the Yankees?

Based on his opening remarks Ricketts says…

  • a Cubs network (like YES) is years away,
  • they have no plans for naming rights for Wrigley Field,
  • PSLs are not on the drawing board
Ok, then why do you care so much if

the plight of the Cubs, as you seem to think — is hopeless?

As Al once asked, why are you here??

The fool's hope that it actually happens

I don’t want to miss it.

The plight of the Cub isn't hopeless.

Its just much more likely the Yankees are going to win because they outspend EVERYONE else.

If the Cubs get smart about recruitment and development they are a better chance of overcoming those odds, as other teams have. But they won’t outspend the Yanks.

Good night,

I’m missing Modern Family.

1 – Stir the pot
2 – Leave
3 – ???
4 – Profit!

not to mention a total disregard for the reply function...
I wish I did not have to go out tomorrow

Grinning Yankee fans on the streets.

What was that, ballhawk?

I’m wrapping up the FanPost…should be up in the next 24 hours!

Time to start hibernating - when does ST start? Seeems like forever....
Looks like SDSJM ditched us for Modern Family...

…but continuing his train of thought, let’s just say that starting tomorrow morning and every morning after that, Tom Ricketts sits down at his desk at 1060 W. Addison and ponders… WWYD?

Well for 2010, that means…
Sign Holliday to play LF – release Soriano and eat the contract. It’s only money, right?
Sign Cameron to play CF
Sign Valverde to close
Sign Lackey to replace Harden.

And then in 2011?
Sign Pujols to play 1B
Sign Crawford to play CF – eat whatever’s left of Cameron’s deal or just put him on the bench
Sign Mauer to play C – sorry Sue…
Sign Halladay to replace Lilly – nothing is bigger than the Yankee way; not even Ted…

So that’d be…
rf – Dome
c – Mauer
1b – Pujols
3b – ARam
cf – Crawford
lf – Holliday
2b – Theriot
ss – Castro

and a rotation of Halladay, Lackey, Z, Dempster, and Wells, with Marmol & Grabow to set up and Valverde to close.

Works for me…

I’m gonna make fun of you in the FanPost just for this.

Oh, and I almost forgot...

LaRussa takes over in the dugout in 2011, and of course, brings Duncan with him.

And starting next year, during the 7th inning stretch, they’ll set up a little stage near home plate with red carpet and microphone for the celebrity singer du jour. And no one in the bleachers will be permitted to drink during the singing. Sure it will add to the game time, but hey – it’s tradition!

After that orgy of spending/eating $...why the HELL is Theriot still on the team?
believe it or not, Riot already has pictures of Ricketts... ;-)
you've got the start of a parody song there -

Roger Daltrey would probably sing it too.

it's happening?!?!?

good because I picked Ryan most likely in your contest

Because he interviews well?

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