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Overflow Thread 3: Cubs vs. Astros, Tuesday 4/7, 7:05 CT

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tie goes to the runner!
Come on heilman
Love the pic
Cotts up

in the pen

Pence seems to like them low.

Bust him with a heater up at the chest.

And awesome, Len just referenced Tom Emanski.

nice tom emanski reference
Anything new on Soto? Is he in the dugout or in the clubhouse?
word is

being worked on by the trainer in the clubhouse.

Not sure if this is "new"

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090407&content_id=4157412&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

does this mean i need to pick up another catcher before midnight?
you know

I could have written that. how much does she get paid?

yeah...

Johnson was way safe on that one from the shot i’m seeing on mlb.tv… i still have no idea why he was up there instead of Fukudome

Cue gnashing of teeth
this isn't good
pence is gonna be big this year
alright.

we need a double play here.

unassisted triple play would be beautiful
unassisted?

that would be impressive.

yikes.

that walk hurts.

its hard to walk Pence
Would LOVE to force the lead runner on the bunt here. Let's see if the wheel's on.
Time-travel much?

Nice call

Why don't you say dp time!!
meh...

I’m not scurred… Bourn, Erstad, Matsui don’t make my heart rate rise one bit… now Pence’s gf… different story. thanks a bunch for that link Al. lol

Pence

is going to be a Cubs killer for a long time I think.

The annoying trio of ridiculousness

Valverde, Pence, Tejada

Come on cotts
i wonder if that redneck is strapped to the train
Cotts in

to pitch.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT
?

Gameday is slow

YES!

got the out at third!

pHew!!!

That could have been bad

Wow, Neal Cotts to Miles to get the lead runner.
Ohhh we caught a break there.

Let’s call it even.

freaky ass play

makes up for calling Johnson out, I guess.

Now let's get a DP and get into extras!
gonna be tough

lotsa speed out there

wathc the steal here, there is speed on teh bases
Whenever I see Erstad at the plate,

I can’t help but thinking of him flailing at the last nasty splitter of Z’s no-no. I’d love to see that swing again.

kinda like that?
ok

Just in case nobody has figured this out yet… Heilman>Cotts vs LHBs… Marmol>Cotts vs LHBs… Gregg>Cotts vs LHBs. Bringing in Cotts as a LOOGY is going to bring bad results this year.

Fortunately tonight you're wrong.
he got the k.

and I’m pleased to be wrong… just know that against an actual tough LHB, it won’t be the right decision, even if it works out some of the time.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt

I think Cottsy has stepped up his game.

Did you compare

Heilman and Cott’s splits from last year? They say otherwise.

Redundent comment coming up

Milo Hamilton BLOWS!

No he doesn't

he sucks!

Sorry for my inaccuracy lol

all the same, what a lousy PBP man.

He is a bitter old man
Say it with me: TWO DOWN!!!
What just happened there?
Home Plate Ump was barking at Trammel to get back in the dugout

i think that’s why he called time

HORSESHI* - if you ask me
What about Marmol

right here?

Matsui switchits
I take it back then

way to get out of it

nope

don’t want him in 134 games this year

how many sons would you hafta have

to name one of them wandy?

maybe they wanted a girl?
maybe pence's parents got one
How many drinks would you hafta have after your son was born to name him Wandy?
Cotts on it tonight!
Extras baby...
free baseball!
And... We... Breathe...
thanks cotts!
F U C K - Y E A H ! ! !
allright lets get em boys
YES!

lineout!

Hey! I thought our bullpen was supposed to be sucky or something. These guys aren’t so bad!

So far so good this season
eh

Not sucky… just unconventional. I’m optimistic about Heilman, Marmol and Gregg, and Guzman and Cotts if they’re used right. But the lack of a true LOOGY means there shouldn’t be unnecessary substituting for the RHPs… they’re full inning guys

Sweet! On to the 10th

Go get’em guys, I gotta get back to work.

Free baseball, kids
By the way

Did anybody see Veal’s debut today? He gave a solo shot but also struck out the side.

saw him pitch in spring training. man that guy is huge
Let's get this one overwith quickly

The longer the game goes on, the higher the probability that Lou has to put Vizcaino on the mound. (Ugh.)

Cmon, Bionic!

get a hit!

Who got the better end of the Aardsma/Cotts trade?
aaparently us
funny to think about it like that huh?
We'll see

how Aardsma does with his opportunity in Seattle. I think Cotts gets too much hate on this board, personally

not the Cubs

Cotts has been a non asset since coming here. Aardsma has issues, but he’s still got something to work with. Cotts gets less hate than he should, actually. He’s not a reliable reliever whether it’s against LHBs or RHBs… he hasn’t been effective against LHBs since the Sox World Series year.

cmon, LBR!

get a hit!

took the words outta my mouth
Cmon fonty - dump one in the crawford boxes
Damn this iPod is amazing

Hasn’t frozen once while posting with y’all tonight

how do you post from iPod? Thought BCB wasn't set up for it??
it has built in safari
ohhh thru safari... will note
you can't post from safari
Haha how am I posting then??
I am so confused
nevermind. I'm wrong.
you can go to the

main page — not the mobile one — from an iPod. It’s just not optimized.

Using full bcb option to do it

Slow at times but working!

what do you mean?
My iPhone seems to hate jumping

Other than that, no probs.

wait you can post from your iPhone?
you can

just go to the main site. The mobile site can’t.

well damnit, that's awesome

thanks!

If you look at the regular BCB you can.

If you go to the mobile one you can’t. The mobile one never crashes and loads quickly, while I’ve had numerous problems with the full site version (really slow, crashes).

Not the mobile version

But you can still access the main page

Not the mobile version

But you can still access the main page

Byrdak

if he doesn’t suck, they have the right guy up there… I’m not expecting much from Hill, Fontenot, Miles… maybe if they get to Soriano and they pull Byrdak, the Cubs will get a favorable matchup with Hoff or Dome

so much for the game being over when i got home
Hiya HBCG... we need more estrogen
pete's sake

that outside corner is six inches off the plate!

Shoot just got in, what happened to Soto?
HBP in the ribs

and during a short throw to second tweaked his shoulder

strained shoulder

on a throw to second.

sore shoulder
left with "shoulder soreness"

felt on throw to 2b.

According to twittermyer.

see link above
Gameday said he got pulled for injured neck/shoulder

Hope it’s not bad.

must have a good slider

these guys are swinging at pitches way off the plate

Thank you Fat Elvis!!!
that was all

Tejada.

Whoever it was

GREAT!!

Miles

safe at first on a botched throw!

nice play tejada

make it hurt now

Come on, Sori. "It's past Berkman!"...
ugh...

setting up a new computer is taking away from my paying attention to this game.

Tejada was too excited to get the last out...he was a bit premature there...
aaa excited I got home for work just in time for Sorianos HR

Now they went into extra innings, get to watch my Cubbies for a bit!

fastball, thigh high,

inner third

Brocail

coming in, i would assume? Soriano needs to make something happen here and give Hoff a chance to show what he can do.

Brocail.

No need for Sori to give anything to Hoff. Sori can do it himself.

Three things I've gathered tonight

1. Theriot is not a base stealer
2. Miles isn’t a SS
3. that jackass Valverde OWNS the Cub hitters

Agreed on all three parts
seems like

Wandy, Sampson and all the other houston pitchers fair pretty well against us. At Minute Maid Atleast

Also

Theriot picked a bad pitch to go on. High fastball outside, practically a pitch out

See? Now THIS is what I like...

Sori coming up? (OUR GUY) – oh shit, we gotta take the pitcher out.

Love the fear… :)

so far I have to say

I am not entirely enthused with Miles.

Yea, I know it's early.

But couldn’t agree more.

Soriano will do something uninteresting by swinging too hard
cmon, now...

just get a hit…

I think Bradley, Soriano and Pinella.................

are ignoring Dome in the thread pic

What's up with these game threads?

Weren’t working just a bit ago. Are they always like this?

define "not working"
?? in what way?
crappity!

Soriano hits to third, Miles out at second.

well...

just like Cotts… you’re right… but the results say otherwise.

dood

what is your problem? Cotts performed VERY well tonight.

ok...

what do you want to bet that Heilman, Marmol and Gregg will ALL have BAAs vs LHBs lower than Cotts at the end of the year?

nothing

because I don’t care about that stat. If Cotts gets runners out and saves runs, I’ve got nothing to complain about, and neither do you.

Seriously.

Did he wrong your family?

On to the 11th
don't jinx it!

:-P

or the last of the 10th
Well if we don't get to the 11th

That’s bad. So….on to the 11th I say.

tough part of the lineup

up to bat.

Cotts stays in.
don't know If I like it
who would you pitch?

Vizciano?

True
yup

i’d much rather have Vizcaino up there than Cotts against IROD… he’s pathetic against RHPs… pretty good against weak LHPs like Cotts.

ummm...

there’s this guy named Marmol and this other guy named Gregg, first name Kevin… I think you’ve heard of them.

after all the bitching on this board

about overusing Marmol?

Gregg is coming in to pitch; it’ll be interesting to see if he can go more than one inning. Modern closers don’t tend to do that.

doesn't matter

if you’re that worried… just send them up there for three outs and then wait until the next half inning to pinch hit with Dome.

Dome

who hit under 200 in the last quarter of the year? I like Dome too, and I want him to succeed, but you sure make some interesting choices.

dude..

he’s going to bat anyway in the next half inning if the Cubs are going to win…. you could have used Hoff instead and then used Dome as a defensive replacement… either way… Marmol would have only been needed for three very important outs… so your concern about overuse wouldn’t have been an issue.

Marmol

doesn’t do so hot on multiple days of play, so we’re told.

i don't know you

but that line on your signature is irritating.

and it makes me read everything you write with a really pissy tone of voice.

Leadoff single

Is never good

Well

Rami gets a glove on it, which probably saves a double.

True statement
Seems like Rami was lucky to know that one down

rocket

One-skipper

And he had to go across his body for it. Glad to keep it a single.

This just in:

I don’t like Berkman at all.

Time for White Castle.
That sounds like a GREAT idea
How about

Someone other than Cotts pitches?

what was THAT?

Dive for it!!!

did aramis just watch that go by???!
on the replay

looks like Rami slipped. Miles was simply nowhere near it.

Should miles have been??
I don't know.

maybe not.

plant foot slipped
Miles is TERRIBLE

he’s so small he has no range

Maybe a tough play for Miles
the problem is

he is not a SS

do we even have SS on the roster?
Well he got the ground ball
Reed

goes to left, Dome to center. Sori is out. Gregg in to pitch.

I'd rather have Sori in the game in case he needs to make a play at the plate.
just what i was thinking
I think it is more about

keeping his legs fresh this early in the season.

Gregg eh?

Hmmm. Seems like this is the type of situation u draw up for Marmol

Last year Lou works him too much, now not enough this year

No pleasing you folks :)

The problem last year

was that Lou used him in spots he had no use being in. This is prime Marmol territory

Wasn't the whole point of keeping Marmol in his old role

that he could come in and get the tougher outs, regardless of what inning they fell in? You know, like the 2-3-4 hitters in the 10th inning of a tie game?

agreed

A bit confused here. Who better to get swings and misses, as opposed to Gregg who is much more of a contact guy

come on gregg
good catch Dome!

wow. That was a rocket.

DP still gets ya out of it.
that was CRUSHED

Good play there

I thought that ball was gone.
Not center field at Minute Maid
by the sound

it sounded gone…

Is Gregg a fly ball or ground ball pitcher?
Put him on

/approval

Oh please don't walk home the winning run...
You said it,

we were all thinking it. Knock on wood time.

a double play would be fan-friggin-tastic
gotta love it

gut-cluching baseball on the second day of the season. :D

Where did THAT miss?
ball two was a strike!!
OH PLEASE!

that was a strike! Christ!

whoa

where did that miss? should be 1-2

silence
really

After two games?

So....

Who wants to get a SS now?

meh...

Oh well good game

True

Get ’em tomorrow.

Blech. Too early in the season for this.
uggghhh

couple hits with eyes….that’s baseball

go get ’em tomorrow

Well

there goes teh chance to be 162-0.

Damn. I’m bummed.

agreed

Thought it was our year too!! Damn those pesky astros!!

WTNY
do what?
Wait 'til next year :P
Oooh

wow. I’m slow tonight.

OK that sucks
Unlucky.

Two weak grounders through the hole in the 10th, one of which shattered a bat. Oh well.

Its the second game of the season

Chill the f out stros

they did seem

a little excited. but then, how many games are they really going to win?

This is

What happens when you go like 1-18 in spring training

Wasted

a good start from Dempster. Oh well could be worse, could have gotten crushed by San Francisco.

who got crushed by SF?
they kicker is

Lincecum’s line was 3 IP 3 ER

why did he only go 3?

is he hurt?

lots of pitches

he threw 70+ in 3 innings. I dont think he got hurt, must have been on a pitch count

wow

someone said he looked off earlier… daver i think was watching the game.

Nice by Demp

But without a little more offense…well, game like this’ll happen

Good pitch to hit?

and got it? Dude you busted you bat on that, you got lucky.

the astros are not known for their ability to make sense
Yeah, that is the upside of this game, we know Demp still has it.
the pen

pitched well in general, too. Not bad.

General????

Patton didn’t pitch :P

Concerning Loss

Whether it’s Game 2 or Game 162, you cannot let winnable games slip through your fingers. It’s like watching a kid take one bite out of his dinner and saying he doesn’t want any more. Very wasteful.

I don't know about concerning.

We still struggle with runs sometimes.

wandy is the kind of lefty

i’ve always seen the cubs struggle with.

Relax

The Astros’ bullpen was pretty good tonight, with the exception of one pitch from LaToya. I’m not going to get stressed about a 3-2 loss in Game No. 2.

heh

I was calling him “Latrine” myself.

I know

it is frustrating that we can score ten runs in one game and then only one in the next.

A little bit

But the Cubs haven’t scored 10 runs in a game yet, anyway. :)

Let's take it easy.

Frustrating? Absolutely. But seriously. Relax.

I'm still in "football mode"

Where every game matters and it’s “go out there and kill kill kill, smash ’em in the mouth and run over ’em”, etc..

the only bad thing about this loss

is that we won’t he above .500 the entire season

Kind of a bummer that Cotts got the L

shouldn’t that go on Gregg?

inhereited

runner.

Ah

Okay.

Nope

It’s not Cotts fault… and not Gregg’s fault that he was given that situation. He did exactly as expected… he’s a flyball/strikeout pitcher. He got a flyball and then Keppinger got lucky. The blame goes on whoever let Cotts stay in to face Ivan Rodriguez and Lance Berkman when there were much better options… pretty much everyone down in the pen save Patton…. including Vizcaino. Kudos to Cotts for getting out of a jam in the previous inning… but he’s much too weak of a pitcher to face that many batters with the game on the line.

Didn't ask for a disertation

just wondered why the decision went that way…

Well I'm out for the night

take it easy!

sigh.

I was going to post my newest find of Erin for the Hoff. Twill have to wait for another day…

time from some offense tomorrow

Milton still doesnt have an average

Sure wish Theriot stayed put instead of trying to steal

giving Milton a chance to knock him in…

right

see you all tomorrow!

later drew

i’m off too… been a long day.

yay for meaningful baseball on tomorrow.

How bad is Soto?
I dont think its anything serious

maybe have the next two games off

On the bright side

If Soriano keeps up his fielding and gets tons of HR’s we’ll finally potentially get an “MVP” chant going for the first time in years :)

We stilll can't hit Wandy

Next time, just start some bum from Iowa against him so we don’t waste a great effort by someone.

I think this team could use

a slick fielding backup SS, dont really care if he bats .100 on the year. I laughed at the Twins for signing Nick Punto @ 4.5 mil per year, but I would take him over Miles. Its early, but I dont think Miles fits this team as well as Jim Hendry thinks

So they lost?

Bummer. They’ll get them tomorrow.

Yup

Good seeing you stop by

Gregg is a major downgrade from Wood.

He doesn’t have that dominating fastball that Woody had.. No longer will I think the 9th inning is safe. Why didn’t Marmol come in?

Gregg pitched fine

He got a fly ball and then he got a medium-sharp grounder. That’s exactly what he wanted. Unfortunately, it didn’t go to an infielder.

Them’s the breaks. Rest assured the Cubs probably will lose at least one more game this season like that, and they’ll probably win a few like that, too.

People were complaining about Marmol being overworked last year. No time to start that again so early this year.

+1

I like what I’ve seen from Gregg thus far.

Cotts, Gregg and Old Style have all looked ok IMO

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