Bleed Cubbie Blue

Yeah, I guess I can see that

I think Pujols is more like Khan

Pujols is the Gorn

Gibbon Jockey - May 19, 2009 reply

(Minor) Spoiler Alert. Collapse the comment if you don't want to read it.

I’m going to try really hard not to “spoil” anything for those who haven’t seen it . . . if you’re at all concerned, stop reading this comment here.

I thought it was entertaining, but I had a couple of problems with it. The most basic problem that I have is how willing long-running franchises like Star Trek and Doctor Who are to toss out decades of continuity. I also really, really dislike the paradoxical circuilar logic — events in the future causing events in the past/present. I suppose that by saying it’s an “alternate” universe in this case, they get away with it.

Ironically Enough...

the only real problem I had with the movie was Leonard Nimoy’s presence. I liked this movie, though, not as much as some others. I would put this one fourth behind The Wrath of Khan, First Contact, and The Voyage Home. Okay, I know a lot of people went to the movie to see Leonard Nimoy as Spock. For box office purposes, I know good and well why he was in the movie.

I would have rather have had these new actors with JJ Abrams start off with a clean slate and start their own universe while changing a few minor things in the story. I would have preferred the older Spock to not have been in this movie. I’m a great admirer of how well Nimoy has played Spock over the years. I just feel it’s Quinto’s role now and Quinto’s alone now.

I loved Pine, Quinto, and Urban in their new roles. Seeing the Enterprise in battle with modern special effects was “way cool”. I’m very eager to see their second movie. The Wrath of Khan was the second movie for the TOS cast. First Contact was the second movie for the TNG cast. The second movie from this group could very well even up being their best.

Nimoy was in the movie...

… not just for box office reasons, but to provide a transition from the original cast to the new actors playing the same roles.

Now that they have established themselves, I agree, the new cast could do even better with the second film.

I was expecting a completely different story

I guess I should read EW more often . . . .

I’d expected it to be the story of a young Kirk and Spock as their lives unfolded in the original timeline.

I thought that was what it was.

According to "Spock Prime", it wasn't

MAJOR SPOILERS

Ok, so Nemo’s ship comes back in time and kills Kirk’s dad.

When Nemo goes through the black-hole, a new timeline is created. Every time you make a choice — I’m going to Starbucks instead of Panera — a new, alternate timeline is created.

This keeps the original ST continuity in place — in Spock Prime’s timeline, his mother is still alive, Vulcan isn’t destroyed, and everything that happened from TOS all the way through Voyager and the movies happened.

In THIS time line, everything is different from the moment Nemo makes changes.

Right

That’s what I mean — it wasn’t the original timeline of Kirk and Spock.

Oh, I get it now.

As I said below, maybe we’ll find out more in the sequel.

I suspect a lot of what we think are changes in the timeline...

… will be addressed in the sequel.

Remember Star Trek II? Spock was supposed to be dead. Well, not quite…

well

it was only temporary. :D

They aren’t even on their five year mission yet. In TOS, Chekov isn’t even a member of the crew before season 2, in this reality, he’s an officer before Kirk finishes the academy.

Star Trek III : The Search for Spock

I believe that was the best odd-numbered Star Trek picture before this latest one, if you count the 2009 film as the eleventh Star Trek picture. I felt they did the best job they possibly could in giving a plausible explanation as to how Spock was revived. However, I only consider Star Trek III to be an average picture, not a good one. I just don’t want it to be lumped in with The Motion Picture, which was over my head and the truly abysmal Star Trek V as poor Star Trek movies.

My Brother Agrees With You

He was born on September 9, 1969, the day after “Where No Man Has Gone Before” aired on NBC. He is an even bigger Trekkie than I am. He felt that transition was necessary for this Star Trek to gain acceptance. Judging from the box office numbers, he was right. I just thought that Nimoy being in this picture was a bit contrived. It’s not something that terribly upsets me. This is a much better movie than 1979’s The Motion Picture and 1994’s Generations, the first offerings from the TOS cast and TNG cast respectively. The first offering from this group was good.

I meant to type in a previous comment that “The second movie from this cast could very well end (not even) up being their best.”

"Where No Man Has Gone Before"...

… aired in 1966, not 1969.

Oops! I Meant 1966

Thanks for catching that! I was trying to make my brother three years younger than he actually is. His birthdate is actually September 9, 1966. I have 1969 stuck in my mind because of the moon landing and the Cubs.

actually

science says that if you’re going to do time travel, what happened in the movie is what you’re really going to get.

Which one of us is from the future then?

Daver.

Where did you read that?

Buncha places.

it’s a common Sci-Fi trope, but it’s based in real science.

Well, if it's a different timeline, that makes sense

Suggesting the present is influenced by its own future, though

forgot the ellipses

…

ah

but it’s not it’s own future. In the future of THIS timeline, Kirk is a captain three years after joining starfleet academy (o.0), Vulcans are an endangered species, Spock and Uhura are… whatever they are, Scotty has a little Greedo-clone buddy, Pike isn’t a mute cripple… etc, etc, etc. It lets them jettison 40 years of continuity without doing any disservice to it whatsoever.

And as I said...

… we may find out in the next movie that some or all of that won’t happen. Time travel movies can do just about as they please.

And if it's an alternate timeline, I'm ok with it.

What I don’t like is stuff like in the second Harry Potter book — Harry knew he could conjure the patronus because he saw himself doing it. That’s B.S.

The classic Doctor Who never used to do that — in fact, it even came up with an explanation as to why (the Blinovitch Limitation Effect), but the new series uses it in seemingly every story. It just seems like lazy writing.

Right, I agree

That’s the only way it’s palatable

Props to Bruce Greenwood

I loved the way he played Captain Pike. I don’t want to say much more to give anything away. Jeffrey Hunter did not want to be in The Menagerie, so that’s why they had to come up with the story of his receiving major radiation burns in saving cadets to explain why a different actor played him in The Menagerie. The Menagerie with scenes from the Jeffrey Hunter pilot, The Cage, is one of my favorite episodes. I won’t provide any spoilers.

Wait, I'm confused...

Remember the episode where there are like 3 Enterprises all at a singular point in time (TNG, where Tasha Yar goes “back” and then creates a half Romulun offspring later?) I thought there could be multiple timelines that run parallel. If that’s the case, then all that this means is that Spock no longer exists in the original timeline, right?

He was there

but no longer. As far as the original timeline goes, he’s dead.

I'm not sure that's right

In the original timeline, he’s gone through a black hole. It didn’t kill him. That Spock is still alive, but in the alternate timeline.

So the original timeline still exists through that black hole?

See, there’s a story idea right there.

I would think that it does, yes

as far as the people on the other side know

he’s dead. That black-hole is closed. You can’t get back.

It's a science fiction movie.

Of course you can get back.

Al Yellon - May 20, 2009 reply

+2001

Shanghai Badger - May 20, 2009 reply

There are a couple of common ways to deal with time travel in situations like these.

1. Goiong back in time and changing things has already happened and been taken into account in your current universe. If I went back to stop the Mets run in 1969, I would be unavoidably detained, or hit by a bus, or something else. End result: You can’t change history. (Ref. 12 Monkeys.)

2. Going back in time and changing things results in new, exciting parallel universes, but makes it difficult to get back to ‘your own’ universe. If I went back in time to stop the ’69 Mets, I would succeed, but the NL would have adopted the DH as a result. (Ref. Back to the Future.)

2a. Going back in time and changing things results in new, exciting parallel universes, but your memories change too, so you’d never know. The Cubs won the pennant in ‘69, everybody knows that. And Jake Fox is our DH. (Ref. that one episode of Stargate SG-1. You know the one I’m talking about.)

3. Going back in time and changing things causes the universe to tear itself apart because YOU JUST CAN’T DO THAT SORT OF THING. There was no pennant series in ‘69, just a sudden massive existance failure. (Ref. that one episode of Doctor Who where they save Rose’s dad.)

4. Going back in time and changing things doesn’t happen because you can’t travel backwards in time. The Mets won the ’69 pennant. (Ref. reality.)

No Quantum Leap scenario?

That's kind of a special case of scenario number 2, isn't it?

Yes, it is.

Just wondering if you’d come up with something else. I’m kind of bored right now . . . .

5. Going back in time and changing things results in an even more bizarre universe with paranoid androids, rock stars spending time dead for tax purposes, and two headed presidents of the Galaxy. (Ref. HHGG.)

Ah, that SG1 was great...

I still laugh when I think of them hitting golf balls into the gate…

CubsWin!Oregon - May 19, 2009 reply

"That's gotta be a record."

Classic.

Is that the one where Jack and T'lac (sp?) get stuck in a loop

or Moibus (end of season 8)?

SG-1 did a lot of time-travel stuff

znohitter was probably thinking about “Mobius”, and even “Continuum” could work (except for not being an episode). CW!O and I were talking “Window of Opportunity”, and there was also “1969”.

/sg-1 nerd

Fair enough.

And yes, lots of time travel in SG1. :)

Yeah,

Window of Opportunity is the one that came to mind for me.

Was a great show (though I preferred it on Showtime to SciFi)…Went downhill over time, alas…but then most things do I guess.

CubsWin!Oregon - May 19, 2009 reply

That one was my favorite of them all.

Bought the Collector’s edition from Amazon, all 10 seasons for $30 at Christmas.

:-)

Allie - May 19, 2009 reply

That's a great deal.

Nice pick up

Wish I’d only paid $30 for all of my DVDs…

I can definitely see this

as someone who’s gut reaction was “but wait, what does that do for X episode in the future???” I ultimately realized though that the series as a whole was not going to be reactivated in a meaningful way. It wasn’t like I was ever going to find out what happened in the Federation/Cardasian war at the end of DS9, for example, so we might as well start out a new timeline and get some new movies/cast members.

I was overall pleased. I thought it was true to the original, exceptional characters and updated the tech/presence of Star Trek in a meaningful way. The only thing I really disliked was the Romulun, but that was mainly because the weird tatoo thing didn’t scream Romulun to me, it was just like a weird guy who happened to be there until they pointed out he was Romulun. I always liked the fact that character/attitude was what distinguished them from Vulcans, and that was definitely not the case here.

Overall 2 thumbs, way up, and I’ll prob go see it again before it leaves the IMAX

This movie was great!

it was just uncanny how well the actors matched the original cast.

As for Cub casting, how about a historical twist:

Captain Kirk: has to be Santo – who else?

Spock: Ken Holtzman – measured, thinker, quiet,

Mr. Sulu: Billy Williams – steady, sure, reliable.

Mr. Scott: Mark Grace – same laugh, same hard work ethic

Dr. McCoy: Sosa – draw our own conclusions.

Mr. Chekov: Jose Cardenal – not quite sure why, but I like it.

Captain Pike: Ernie – can’t have a list without Ernie.

BatCubFan - May 19, 2009 reply

The casting really was very good

I might flip Holtzman and Williams in your historical roster.

can't argue

it was just I can picture the long pointy ears on Holtzman.

BatCubFan - May 19, 2009 reply

why is Sosa McCoy?

elgato - May 19, 2009 reply

Well,

He was always giving people those injections with the needleless device……

Ihatethecards - May 19, 2009 reply

I was thinking Greg Maddux as Spock

Santo as Kirk? Huh?

Sorry, I just can’t buy this…

Current Santo

Chekov – “Keptin, the Romulans are firing phasers”
Santo – “Oh, man… uggghhhhh”
Spock – “Direct hit on the port nacelle, Captain”
Santo – "No, no, no, no, no… (degrading into soft sobbing).
Chekov – “They are firing again, keptin.”
Santo – “Oh, geez….”

1969 Santo
Chekov – “Keptin, the Romulans are firing phasers”
Santo – "This is your fault, Chekov. I can’t believe you did this.
Spock – “Direct hit on the port nacelle, Captain”
Santo – “Spock, he totally flew us into this attack. He is going to lose us this battle.”
Chekov – “They are firing again, keptin.”
Santo – “Two errors? You killed us, Chekov. Just killed us.”

The only thing they have in common is bad hair pieces.

LOL

Which Cub Red Shirts have been ..

The most dramatic ..

The most meaningless ..

The most transitory ..

The most valuable ..

I nominate Neifi Perez as the most longlasting in recent memory

cubnational - May 19, 2009 reply

Nomar Garciaparra

People never gave Sulu enough credit

He’s the helmsman. He steers the ship. He was a swashbuckler. If there was any character that lends back to the old days of navigation, it’s Sulu. I think the new reboot didn’t rewrite his character, but it brought him closer to the forefront. As an Asian American I am so happy he was prominent relatively early and in a very pivotal action sequence.

Also, I would say Geo Soto is Scotty. Very important to the flow of the ship’s engines, although is often behind the scenes.

Hey Al, the writers of the screenplay were on a screenwriting podcast I subscribe to this week. They mentioned they are already contracted for the sequel. They’re working on it now, though it’ll be at least 2-3 years before the film is in the can. I haven’t seen the film yet, but I’m looking forward to it.

Kegler - May 19, 2009 reply

I figured a sequel was in the works.

I look forward to it as well.

YAY!!!!!!!!!!

Something to look forward too. :)

Al didn't like Star Trek VI?

I thought it was pretty good. It was Star Trek V that sucked.

TOS order from Best to Worst: II,IV,VI,III,I,VII,V

I agree that XI is easily worth the price of admission. But the Back to the Future alternate reality timeline confuses me. (how can Spock’s mom die when she was in part IV?) And the idea of Spock being the designer of the Kobayashi Maru sounds too contrived. (i.e. sounds more like something Star Wars would do…like Vader designing C3PO)

anyway….Go Cubs!

Neifi Puppy - May 19, 2009 reply

V was pretty bad, admittedly.

VI was just all over the place, I didn’t care for it, especially as it was the last for the original crew. If they’d just stopped with IV, I would have been just fine with it.

Nemesis was pretty bad, too

The villain’s anger at humans made no sense. And it turned into the Piccard and Data show.

Nemesis was so annoying.

First Contact was my fav, but I started really watching the show with the TNG cast.

First Contact was really good

Even if they did have more annoying circular logic . . . but at least the characters consciously tried to minimize their impact.

It should have stopped at IV

If anything but to let the cast keep their dignity. They were already getting up there in age and rank, and any plot that tried to throw them all on the same ship seemed contrived.

It just boggles the mind why William Shatner keeps trying to cling on (no pun intended) to his role as Kirk when he’s starting to look like a fool. He wrote an alternate storyline where Kirk was resurrected after Star Trek: Generations. And then he tried to get Abrams to throw old Kirk into the plot, as well. It’s almost embarassing. He needs to stick to Priceline commercials.

Kirk out

Denny Crane.

VI Necessary Because of V

Star Trek IV would have been a nice place to stop. However, that fifth movie was so dreadful that no one wanted the TOS cast to go out on a such a bad note. The sixth movie was made and liked, if not loved, by most people. I know Al didn’t like it. The events of the sixth movie between the Klingons and Earthlings mirrored what was going on with the fall of the Iron Curtain and improved relations between the US and the former Soviet Union. It also better explained how the Klingons were not enemies of the Federation by the time of The Next Generation.

It took me a while to accept The Next Generation because of the alliance between the Klingons and the Federation, but I came to really like the show with the development of the Star Trek character, Worf.

And now he's a famous poster on BCB

actually

VI is my favorite.

I thought VI was very well done...

I’d put it just below Wrath of Khan on my scale.

I liked IV, but thought that the actress playing Dr. Taylor (the whale lady) was just awful.

bison - May 19, 2009 reply

7th Heaven Star Trek Connection

Catherine Hicks played Dr. Taylor in the fourth movie. Stephen Collins played Will Decker in the first movie, The Motion Picture.

The rule of Star Trek Movies

Odd is bad, even is good.

II, IV, VI, VIII = good.

This move = X. Good.

We’ll see if the curse has been broken for XI.

Actually Star Trek Nemesis was the 10th or X

This new movie which just came out is 11 or XI

Neifi Puppy - May 19, 2009 reply

So what happens when V'Ger returns?

What about the sausage probe that was looking for the humpback whales?

who knows if they still exist?

perhaps when Nero destroys Vulcan, the resulting subspace feedback blows out a critical circuit of V’Ger, or wipes the star-maps of the Whale Probe.

That’s the great part. All those things happened — in another time and another place. THIS slate is wiped clean.

So this could also have caused

the Botany Bay to go off course, denying Khan’s initial confrontation with Kirk.

What about David Marcus? Does he still exist? I mean does Kirk even know Carol Marcus? If David doesn’t exist, then the Klingons can’t kill him, and Kirk will be less bitter.

Yes, it could

have caused the Botany Bay to go off course. But even more importantly, it shaves years off of Kirk’s career before he becomes a starfleet captain, which means the five year mission starts earlier, so maybe Kirk is simply never in the right place at the right time to discover Kahn’s ship.

As far as David Marcus goes… the answer is we don’t know. Kirk was supposed to have met Carol Marcus while at the Academy, and nearly married her because he was hooked up with her by Gary Mitchell. There’s no mention of Gary Mitchell or Carol Marcus in the movie. So, maybe it did happen, maybe it didn’t.

Actually according to the information I read

The parallel universe enterprise is comissioned like five years later than the original one. What this means, I have no clue. Pike is never going to get disfigured and float around in a beeping wheelchair?

not yet

anyway. There were some nice homages to the original movies.

Kobayashi Maru

It’s mentioned after Lt. Saavik fails the Kobayashi Maru test in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan that Kirk cheated in his academy days to pass the test. I’m glad that was explored in this Star Trek film. Also, in a reference to the “Enterprise” TV series, Scotty mentions Archer’s beagle.

I think the "I am Spock" line

Was a nice homage to Nimoy’s books ….

Older Spock to Kirk

“I have been and always shall be your friend” is a classic line from Star Trek that was used in this latest movie.

Yes, I agree that was a good one to use

But here's the thing.

If they don’t pay at least some attention to the earlier timeline, that phrase might never get said.

Not sure where you are going with that

Do you mean the writiers acknowledging that they’d seen some of the movies, or that the characters retain the memories?

Both.

Too hopped up on Nyquil and beer for a coherent response

Don’t try that at home, kids…

Spock Prime

carries it over.

Here's the thing though...

Everything that happened with the original movies still happens as it did. When Spock uses the Red Matter to create a black hole to absorb the nova’d star, it caused Nero’s ship, and Spock’s jellyfish (designed by LaForge~!) to get sucked in through a time vortex. So you have this line of string, which was the original timeline, and when the Red Matter event occurs, a tangent is created, or rather, an entirely separate timeline is created. In this timeline because of what Nero does, everything that happens will be far different than what happens in the original timeline because there is no Vulcan, Kirk has no father figure, etc., etc. These events won’t prevent Khan from being born, they may not even prevent him from being a tyrant, but this timeline may never have a Genesis weapon/project, there may not even be a Botany Bay as previously mentioned, it’s all new. That’s why I said before that their device from rebooting was brilliant because they can go in entirely new directions and not worry because the original timeline will still be the original timeline.

To nerd it up some more, think about the Marvel Universe and Marvel’s Ultimate Universe. That’s basically what you have here, except with Marvel you don’t have the brilliant plot device for what caused all of this.

My God, I’m such a nerd for time travel…Just look at my avatar for crying out loud…Ah well.

actually

These events won’t prevent Khan from being born, they may not even prevent him from being a tyrant

Not exactly. Everything up to Jim Kirk’s birth is canon. So, the Eugneics Wars DID happen, and Kahn WAS a dictator, who was overthrown and shot into space on a sleeper ship.

The existence of a Genesis Project, however, isn’t required.

Ah, you're right

Didn’t think about that. Aside from that though, I hope they don’t revisit Khan, just because, why mess with greatness?

I wouldn't mind them revisiting Khan

It would be completely different than the Wrath of Khan. They have done a great job of casting so far, I think they would cast a great Khan. Khan is still out there, even with the alternate reality.

Close

Kirk’s father’s ship was attacked before Kirk was born in the new timeline.

well

seconds before. :D

sausage probe

it landed in Milwaukee and runs races

Cubbie-Tim - May 19, 2009 reply

And investigates Ryan Dempster

Good and bad (SPOILERS)

The flick was a good popcorn movie, but I was frustrated by it. I really didn’t like the whole “erasing forty years of history” aspect of it. They could have created a movie that told the story of Kirk and Spock’s meeting without destroying the continuity and canon of the entire series. The whole “separate timeline” thing, while it may be correct in quantum physics, is a cop out for lazy writers. (As are time travel stories).

Simply put, this was not Gene Roddenberry’s Star Trek, this was JJ Abrhams’s Star Trek. Abrahms admitted that he was more of a Star Wars fan than a Star Trek fan, and he made a movie that reflected that.

Dear God, you've killed us all by starting a holy war.

Maniac! :P

Damnit Jim, I am a Star Trek fan, not a jihadist.

"Once to the Wars side you turn, forever will it control your viewing habits."

At least until Lucas sells out entirely and does a kids’ animated series to fill in the gaps between the prequels. Then you stop watching.

Fanfic

This is a case where the fanfic out there is definitely better.

(and I don’t consider my own writing to be among the best or even better writing).

Is it better than the Soriano/Fukudome slash stories out there?

I'm not even gonna bother Googling that

Curse you, Rule 34!

Agreed on all of the first part

Much of your comments echo mine.

The second part is plausible, too.

well

I’m not going to suggest you have to like the film, but JJ Abrams specifically used the alternate timeline so that he DIDN’T wipe out decades of continuity, but still had the ability to write a creative story.

Plus it creates

untold abilities to create new stories. They don’t have to “Search for Spock” or take on Khan, there’s a whole new story line in the process. I liked that they took this approach, creating a whole new Star Trek movie universe without neglecting, nor abiding by, the previous installments.

Exactly

“spock prime” was the embodiment of the old canon.

Also, you have a spirit of destiny, that no matter what alternate reality you’re in the Enterprise crew will always find themselves back together.

Of course, the same thing could have been accomplished by creating new characters

Unless they want these characters

In new situations.

These characters are the ones everyone loves. We know them. But now they have some slight new twists.

Arbusto - May 19, 2009 reply

Sure, but TNG turned out fine

+1

Agreed.

Was about to say something very similar

Everyone knows Kirk and Spock, even casual and non-Star Trek fans. This automatically gives this reboot a very, very large built in fan base. Bones, Sulu, Scotty, the two mentioned previously, etc. etc, are all beloved characters that are now reborn and given a new lease on life with young actors.

Instead of making another DS9, or Next Generation, we have the most famous Star Trek characters now with modern movie making techniques and in new adventures. I, for one, am greatly looking forward to it.

As am I.

I have a feeling that the new timeline that has been created… will somehow be reconciled with the one we’ve known for 40 years, in the next film.

and as a new Star trek fan, I'm prepared to boldly go

I used to watch the Next generation with my dad and brother every week when I was younger, but could never get into the original due to poor production value. Now everything has changed

heine41 - May 19, 2009 reply

FWIW

Abrams has specifically said he’s NOT interested in doing that. It’s an alternate timeline, and that’s it.

Too bad.

You could do a lot with that.

sure

but not without screwing with the original continuity.

Like getting Picard involved, I suppose

Pon Farr Illogical?

I wonder with only 10000 Vulcans left, if they will think it’s illogical to only mate once every 7 years. Even though Vulcans have much longer lifespans than humans. would it not be logical to repopulate the species at an accelerated rate (by Vulcan standards)?

Could we not have more species mixing involving Vulcans as we did with the Vulcan, Sarek, and the human, Amanda, with the Vulcan shortage? Look at Spock and Uhura in this latest movie. Not all Vulcan women look like T’Pol from the Enterprise TV series.

assuming you buy into the continuity provided by the books

Vulcans can mate at anytime; Ponn Farr is simply when the biological imperative overcomes their logical control

Vulcan Reaction to Losing Planet

I was kidding around a little bit with the mating stuff. I wonder how the Vulcans will be affected psychologically by losing their planet. How well are they going to be able to repress their emotions following such a traumatic occurrence? What planet will they colonize? I think the loss of Vulcan is the most significant difference between this alternate timeline and the one established by the original series.

Spock Prime

talks about having found a planet to colonize at the end.

Since the Pon Farr urges were able to effect him in the Prime timeline, it’s not tied to the planet itself, so… who knows?

I got the impression that they felt that accellerating mating was necessary

Doesn’t new spock say that he has to give up his commission because they have a species to repopulate or something?

Simply put J.J. Abrams is the man

He is the reason my friends and I went to this movie. None of us are really big ST fans but now that the franchise has had new life breathed into it, we are hooked.

Plus its obvious. With all the time travel in Star Trek and LOST, Season 6 will end with Kate and Jake having a son named Tiberious

heine41 - May 19, 2009 reply

It won't be

Olivia and Peter from Fringe?

Fringe

Im going to be in heaven on Thursdays this fall. Fringe and Bones together. Monday will be goof as well as Lie to Me and House are together.

This may have been one of the most successul "reboots" I've ever seen

The way the story was setup to have these new movies take place in this tangenital timeline/universe, while still allowing the original timeline to remain in place is pretty brilliant. For once, Donny Darko was good for something other than giving you a migraine trying to figure out what was going on. I kinda want to see this again, but with T4 and Transformers coming out in a couple weeks, I’ll probably end up waiting for the Bluray release, which should look spectacular, what with the 10,000,000 lens flares in the movie (my one real complaint, other than everything looking like it was designed by Steve Jobs).

what

you didn’t like the iBridge? It’s obvious that Starfleet is powered by the best computers available in the 23rd Century. Macs.

...as another holy war rears its ugly head...

(Macs RULE.)

nah

intel machines rule
and windows keeps me in my job

tootle - May 19, 2009 reply

LOL

And, I’m not going to hate or deny that I wouldn’t buy a Mac if I had the means. I’m sadly stuck with Windows machines (although, Windows 7 is soooooo good right now) and messing around with Ubuntu (WHY WON’T YOU WORK?!)

Batman Reboot

This latest Batman reboot with Christian Bale starting with Batman Begins and continuing with the Dark Knight was a pretty successful reboot, too. We’ll see how this new Terminator movie does with Bale.

the new terminator movie looks sweet

Cubz24 - May 19, 2009 reply

Forgot about this

Can’t believe I did since I have TDK in front of The Departed for the best movie of this decade so far.

YEA AL!

YEA AL you used the proper term Trekkers not Trekkies.

Pats Al on the back and high fives him figuratively.

Holy Crap....this is the super nerd thread!

santoswoodenlegs - May 19, 2009 reply

Expelliarmus!

now go clean up your mess.

Hell yeah!

If the tricorder don't fit

you must acquit.

Hee hee hee.

That’s so cute!!!

Why is there a movie review on this siteeeeeeeee??????

Cubz24 - May 19, 2009 reply

because it's Al's site

and he’s done movie reviews in the past.

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/section/Movie-Reviews

okay, sorry, didnt mean to offend anyone

Cubz24 - May 19, 2009 reply

see

for more.

Also, check out the comic book tie in to this

If you’re up for it. It really goes a long, long way at explaining Nero’s ship’s weaponry, how many years in the future were they when that star was going nova, etc. I’m not a big Star Trek fan, but I do like good sci-fi, and this movie was good enough to check out the comic. Sorry if this was already mentioned.

I thought it was..

..one of the better comic/movie tie-ins.

Just to expound on what you said. It’s called “Countdown”. It’s great pre-game read.

MattHaggard - May 19, 2009 reply

Discussing movies and such

Discussing movies and other sports and such here is fun because we all know each other sort of so to speak. Discussing these topics with people we know here is better than some goofy site where you don’t know the people there.

I agree with that

and also love the meticulous nature Cubs fans put into their other interests. :) This has been a very enjoyable convo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek/X-Men

What I also like about it...

is that this is one of the most polite threads I’ve ever read on here :) Even when we’re disagreeing about stuff, no less…

CubsWin!Oregon - May 19, 2009 reply

X-Men/Star Trek

Did anybody actually read that comic book series? Ugh… just the idea sickens me.

TheHawkRules - May 19, 2009 reply

Having a Star Trek movie without Shatner is like

having a Terminator movie without Arnold. I mean it’s unthinkab…..wait nevermind…

Chanman25 - May 19, 2009 reply

snicker

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/trekkies_bash_new_star_trek_film?utm_source=a-section