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Overflow Thread 2: Cubs vs. Padres, Saturday 5/23, 9:05 CT

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The winning thread.
I hope

you are correct.

This is an 0-6 road trip, folks.

You just know one when you see one, sadly.

who is pitching tomorrow?
LILLY.
i didnt' feel like looking it up

Hope Lilly plants a catcher or 2.

maybe that’d be the kick in the ass we need.

remember that time you bunted for a single....that was awesome.....
That's Headley!

Ks, End of 7. 3-1 Dads.

Neifi wouldve hit clean up for this team
Jose Macias batting 3rd

That happened once

I think I saw that....wow....touche

I never liked looking at Mr. Perez. Something about him was just too ugly.

His body was

odd shaped too.

Something new had to happen

That trio was a great new idea, but it was new. 0 – 11.

Luke Gregerson?

In to pitch for SD

WOW

95 pitches over 7 IP

So how many quality performances from our starters can we waste in one week?

I am really in awe at the ineptitude of the offense and there are seemingly NO answers at this time…..except waiting for ARam to rescue us….if we are even still in it by then….yuck

I’ve seen slumps and I’ve seen slumps but this is something else

cubbies are even money for the college softball cws
Did Miles shave off his power stroke?!?
i asked that last night

apparently yes.

he looks mondo weird without the rug on his face, doesn’t he?

And Miles in to pinch hit

This should end well.

He's a bit over the Mendoza line.
Add Randy Wells to the list of

starting pitcher who deserved better from the team this week.

stupid offense.

miles put out OUT or IN the infield?
like candy from a baby
Miles grounds out. 1 out.
Obligatory shot of Lilly in the dugout

The game is now complete.

Aaron Miles......what a sparkplug!!!
WTF Riot?!? That ball was 3 ft off your bat!
What the hell is he swinging at
Is Gregerson a Cy Young candidate?

We’ve ran into a bunch of Cy Youngs this week lol

I warned everybody back on Friday

about the roll the Padres are on. Somebody said …’bring on the Pads!" Not the best idea, as this team is streaky, and they can do no wrong against an anemic Cubs offense.

I just hate when this happens in this town. I never hear the end of it. For 25 years, I’ve never heard the end of it.

You have to look at it this way SDSJM....

beating us is the WORLD SERIES for Padre fans. It’s the happiest they get to be all year long most of the time. That’s what I tell them when I have to hear about it.

Having lived in Irvine for a long time, and having stayed in SD for weeks on end....

I can’t believe anyone takes baseball that seriously there. Do you actually meet baseball fans there?

Yes...when I talk to fans of the visiting teams that come to play the Padres.
There's a cadre that will never let 1984 go.

It’s even more fun than beating the Dodgers, for them. And, I can’t understand it. They play the Dodgers 57 times a year, but they can’t wait to shit on the Cubs.

Milton Bradley, I choose you!
What a pathetic bunch of bats right now.....it is getting really hard to love these guys....

and kind of hard to even like them…

Then don’t and go hang out at US Cellular.

flagged
really?

what about that is flaggable?

Using the term "US" is insensetive to any immigrants or foreign nationals who may be in this thread.

Really? Flagged for telling people who want to crap on the Cubs to go be Sox fans where they belong?

Call up the Iowa Cubs and send every single one of them down

seriously, how would that be bad?

I vote WHY NOT at this point.......no way an injury to one guy should cause this horrible of a slump....
No Shiiiite! These clowns are LOU-sers, and if they don't realize how they're letting fate dictate their performance then they are LOSERS!
I'm going to

watch the rest of this in bed. Nite all, see you for tomorrow’s game.

'Night, sue

I may skip the game tomorrow.

I'm going with the Blackhawks.

no baseball.

Sleep well....

and dream of Soto in the shower.

I don't know.

She might have trouble falling asleep in the shower.

This team is god awful.

I am sick. Sick.

okay

I’m officially declaring that inning the low point of this slump

it all gets better from now

LOL, what could they do that is worse? You can only lose one game at a time.
don't tempt fate

I’m sure they could at least LOOK even worse doing it

All these opposition pitchers

can’t be that good can they?

Charlie Marble

In to pitch.

At some point the manager has to come out and call a spade a spade
So many problems to address on this offense.

However, first base isn’t the primary problem.

even the worst Cubs teams of my lifetime never went through anything like this. We haven’t even had the bullpen to complain about all week lol

Um...the 1997 Chicago Cubs would like a word with you.
fan since 84

Maybe I have a short memory but 3 runs in 5 games? Geesh.

You must have missed the 90’s.

I heard the 50's were bad also. And the 60's.
The bullpen

has a couple of problems.

The offense has question marks at 2nd, short, and center.

Right field, and catcher are underperforming. And our best player is at third and he’s hurt.

Gwynn the Younger FO9
This all started many moons ago with the 4th inning against the Astros

Or the pickoff of Soriano against Pineiro. Your pick.

9th inning vs Astros

we were cruising and Gregg gave it away, got a win but its been bad since then.

I'll take a six game loosing streak

if it means a 50 game winning streak.

Shut up Bob...You're a dork....say fugg or something on tv to spice up your boring ass performance

if these guys didn’t suck so bad everyone would know what a cheese knob you are

Ted Lilly WILL NOT LET THIS CRAP CONTINUE!!!!

He will bite the head off of this slump single handedly and then laugh as he spits the blood out in San Diego’s faces

absolutely positively

disgusting. Sweet Christ its the f’bombing Padres for f’ bombing sake!!!!!!!

Just got home after an excruciating day with the in-laws

and I see the slump is still intact. Holy funk. Shades of 2006.

Can we fire Dusty, again? Just for old times sake
I'd hope

at least that’d bring a smile to my ugly mug.

I could give a sheet what the three clowns we got for DeRo are doing

HORRIBLE TRADE

Yes Super Dero could save this slump. Chances are he’d be right there slumping with the rest of them.

oh yeah, that team won 97 last year....great analysis
Ronny sounds really depressed.

I know because he sounds like me.

That guy who always homers off us

Walks

Now Fukudome caught it

This is the most disgusting stretch of baseball I’ve seen in some time

we got the meat

of the order coming up

very lean meat at this point
More like old rotten ground beef
Oh goody

Bradley is very close to a meltdown. Lee will get a hit and get stranded by 2 straight K’s.

At least the cubs face the pirates in the next series.

The Cubs can’t lose to the pirates. Can they?

That's what people

were saying before this series.

They'll be rested after not having to travel

So that’s something to consider…

That's the excuse now???
Not officially, no

Like I said above, just “something to consider.”

I did consider it

And I reject it.

By the way, Lou

Theriot, Fuku, Bradley?

NOT a good idea

S. Hairston FO8

Down to Bradley, Lee, and Micah

Will Bradley look at a 3rd K again?
And will the umpire survive if he does?
I'm saying he switches it up

And Ks swinging this time ’round.

in his defense

that last one was a terrible call. hadn’t been a strike all night.

are you really el hijo del Santo or just wanna be?
bunt three times....only chance!
Heath Bell will not blow a 2 run lead.

Not the way things are going

True...because he's not going to pitch.

Your faith in your team is overwhelming. Tone it down a notch.

Huh? They've got like 8 hits in a week?!? Are you for real?

I’m an actual fan. I go into every inning expecting 15 runs, not planning on their failure.

I see....well, I apoligize for questioning those that have it all figured out

You’re forgiven.

It's almost getting too painful to watch

We’re watching a 140 million dollar payroll completely self destruct.

Hendry better start checking the want ads because no way is the new owner going to keep him around after this debacle.

Lou seems like he’s pretty much checked out too-maybe he’s getting too old to deal with this-he’s probably looking forward to a nice, easy front office job with the Yankees.

Hendry is on the hook for this bunch, and their backloaded contracts.
Lou does seem kinda stunned and clueless.....but what do you do when the entire lineup decides to suck....
I have to believe that the Lou of, say, ten years ago...

would be kicking some serious ass over this.

I hate to say it, but I think the game has started to pass him by.

WOW

Bell does not pitch. Mujica.

What's a mujica?
I thought it was a mojito

which i may need to start having if this continues.

A female mujico?
I guess SD is pretty confident that even a Mujica can hold us here.

Let’s show them…

Bell

has the night off.

Bradley leadoff single.

kinda looks like a bald Mike North
Bradley shocks the world

Lead-off single

how to tell your offense stinks?

the other manager doesn’t even need his closer in the 9th of a 2 run game.

sigh

He had a scheduled night off.
still

3-4-5 hitters in a save spot.

i’m frustrated.

I'm not watching -- letting you guys say what happens

Maybe it’s better luck

Mújica is missing his spots

Lee singles. Runners at the corners, no outs.

Full count for Lee
Lee basehit to left center
Holy Christ -- it's working!
Lee singles!

1st and 3rd, no outs

I like how each game the Cubs ALMOST look like they are gonna start something...

and then just as you start to hope they pull it back from you…….these guys need a whole bus load of Mark Grace certified slumpbusters!

Seriously? Are you a Sox or Cardinals fan? I can’t tell?

I could use a little slumpbuster myself right now
Common Hoff

You can be a HERO now!!!

No... just another hit

Too many guys trying to hit the ball 1,000 feet.

one more hit. Then the next guy

This will only get their big old Heath Bell into the game.....
The old man

is carrying this team on offense.

Low down dirty shame.

And quite a few people want to bring up the flash-in-the-pan Jake Fox
Didn't you hear?

Jake Fox is obviously Albert Pujols.

damn it

to hell

That is one of the most creative nicknames I've seen

Kudos to you!

can't catch

a fucking break, geez.

You make your own breaks.
So 3-2, bases empty?
Bradley is on 3rd.
3-1, Bradley on 3rd

2 away

nope 3-1

bradley on third

3-1

bradley on 3rd

For shits and giggles, I'd love to know

what the RISP numbers are for the week.

We've had RISP?
a surprising number of them

given the losing streak we’re on

They’re bad.

But you won't be giggiling
more like for tears and screams

we’ve been awful

Called Strike 3.

Game over.

Soto Ks looking

Game over.

how do you take that? seriously?
Yeah

No need to swing the bat.

Yup - I ain't watchin' tomorrow.
i'll watch

but i’m not doing game thread.

i need to wallow.

Look at it this way; we actually scored TWO RUNS tonight

The “Cubbie Swagger” is back!!

Too much blue koolaid.
Padre players and fans seem overly happy that they've won.
fake ass fans

1984 bs, mutiny !

Thats 8 straight for them

You should have seen STL this week. The whole city acted like they won the WS… again…

Fuck St. Louis

And their stupid-ass arch

Call it the “arc” if you ever want to mess with them. They get sooo mad.

the Cubs have so many fans at road games now

that fans of the home teams really take extra satisfaction when their team beats the Cubs.

How in the world did Bradley not score?
Hoff's hit

Was right at Gonzalez – the DP was over in a second.

yeah, Gonzalez

was holding Hoff on. He caught it right at the bag.
If Bradley had broken for home he would have cut him down easily.

Hoffpauir SMOKED the ball....

Milton really didn’t ever have a chance to score.

Yep. Just right at him

Funny how things like that happen when it’s going bad

hoff hit it to first

don’t want to make an out at home while trying to rally

It's Derrek

Lee fault why we lost the game. He’s in a serious decline.

Sarcasm?
I'm gonna go with 'yes' on that one
Only a lot
I CANT TAKE THIS ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
okay

whatcha gonna do about it?

scream? go for it. i did. it didn’t make the team any better.

Score

I’ve kept score every game this year, but this one might have been my last.

I foresee a future "Cubs Big Can of Worms"

featuring Geovany Soto…sooner rather than later

people named their kids after him

ugggh lol

Argh...

Why did Soto bat there? We had Soriano on the bench for pete’s sake. (Unless he has poor stats against Mujica…though i doubt it).

Everyone has poor stats right now.
Relatively speaking sure...

But Soriano is still a bigger threat than Soto is. Soto looks like…a catcher batting. And particularly when you have a backup catcher available to play the field should you tie, I don’t get why you would keep in a mediocre/poor hitting catcher in that position when the game is on the line.

Like I said, maybe there were background numbers than I’m not aware of, but on face it doesn’t make much sense to me.

TED LILLY!!! I beseech you to stop this crap!

Let Ted make out the lineup tomorrow…..

He'll just bat nine times, then
That would consist of...

Ted Lilly manning every position.

And the Cubs would win.

Are you saying he can’t do it?

Only because it's against the rules
Actually, it's in the CBA...Ted is allowed to do that if he chooses.
It would seem only fair...

the CBA was negotiated single-handedly by Theodore while he sat at a Starbucks and catalogued the sins for which he’s forgiving us.

Maybe he'll hit a HOMAH!

and another HOMAH!

How long till the Bears start training camp?
If Mt. Lou doesn't erupt tonight

then fugg him, what did we hire him for anyway….this isn’t a matter of Neifi and Macias batting 3rd and 4th, this is a matter of highly-paid professionals stealing salaries!

Right

I’m starting to feel ridiculous for letting a bunch of underachieving multi-millionaires get to me like this.

Nope

Miles, Scales, Fontenot and Soto usually bat higher in the order.

"highly-paid professionals stealing salaries"

I empathize with the emotions here but they are trying. The Cubs are still within reach and they have the best pitching in the division, so they’ll be in contention if not leading the NL Central at some point soon.

Lee is a quality person. He’s just having a rough go, he’ll get over it.

He happen to sort of hit a HR and single leading off the 9th tonight....

SHHH!! Don’t interrupt the “frustration.”

I know, I saw it. It was a smash. Good for Lee, hope he keeps it up.
You're good people, Crawdad.
Saying something decent about me is a ban-able offense here.
Dr. Crawdad has impeccable table manners and a warm handshake.
YOU'RE BANNED!
No its not

otherwise badger and i would have both been gone a long time.

i have no problem with you… usually. :-P

How much shi# talking did you get here about Peavy Doc?

Or the 20-1?

A fair amount

It’s funny, usually when I say something positive (and I do it here on a regular basis) those comments garner little in the way of responses.

I've argued basball with you before...

…but I respect your opinions — Usually pretty well thought out. Sorry, I still can’t stand Ozzie and the Sox! :)

Can you please write something rude soon

I have a hard time believing you’re a Sox fan otherwise… :)

I usually only respond in kind...

… I don’t know that I make it a practice to come and pile-on or post “rude” things w/o provocation.

Don't disagree about Lee's character....that's now what I'm criticizing...it's their performance that's been lame
hiya crawdad.

i think we need an “outside” view. do you think we’ll bounce back?

He just said they would
Sure.

The bounce doesn’t even have to be that high. No Superball needed. The Cubs are only a few games out. They have the best pitching in the division and the offense will come around.

Too easy

You’re overlooking any further injury, pitching slumps and making a huge assumption that somehow, someway this offense gets better and more consistent. You’re also refusing to believe that what started in the playoffs a year ago, and is continuing now, isn’t the new bar that has been set. The optimism is fine but you’re making some pretty huge leaps there when the reality may just indeed be that this could be the best you’re going to see out of this club this year. Betting on the come is a foolish bet.

Don't forget that before this losing streak...

…they had a 5 game win streak

Quick, someone add up what alternating 5 wins and 6 losses the rest of the year will end up being.
I think you're the one

making the leaps.

OH NO! ARE YOU SAYING I'M A POLLYANNA?

Just kidding. I see what you’re saying. Going into the season I posted about potential holes on the Cubs and was roundly attacked. That said though, from what I’ve seen the Cubs have the best pitching in the NL Central and the offense will get going. So long as it’s not when the Cubs face the Sox I’m fine with it.

Thanks Doc

I hope you’re right.

And I hope your team gets it together too.

only 5 LOB tonight

ugh.

huh?

we left 10.

not according to mlb gameday
Gameday

Adds up the runners LOB for each player. Baseball counts what’s left at the end of the inning.

It's called pride.... and we have NONE.
That sound like a reasonable statement coming from someone on the internet.
how many runs has this team that won the division the last two years scored this week? And you can criticize me? You're a douche!

You call yourself a fan and then write “they suck!” about your team. Pride?

It's called frustration...

…and folks are venting. Chill out

Can we please "vent" with some semblance of logic then?
then vent

without being a jerk to everyone trying to help you.

I haven't been a jerk to anyone
didn't mean you specifically

but “venting” should be possible without being mean to everyone around you.

it takes time to type things in so the “spur of the moment vent” thing doesn’t really fly with me.

I hear you. Anger is to be expected...

…when our team has dropped 6 straight and scored 3 runns in over 40 innings

oh i'm pissed too

we really suck right now.

Anger is OK. Dumbness is annoying.
can't be honest

Right now the Cubs do ‘suck’ as a team. Lets hope they turn it around starting tomorrow.

Couldn't agree more....if they didn't admit they'
of course they look flat

when you’re losing what are you supposed to look like? giggly and swagger?

my question is

why wasn’t hill in there if soto is slumping that bad.

How do you make that call? They ALL suck!
I honestly don't think we could hit AAA pitching right now

and it’s starting to really look like this team’s quitting

It’s time for that. Soto needs to be reminded that his ROY doesn’t ensure him an everyday spot.

they're all slumping bad

Lee is the hottest one

Rest

It’s a good thing this team will be well-rested in October. Making those tee times would take an awful lot out of them after 162 games.

At this rate they'll only be 19 games back

Terrific

At this rate the Padres will win 129 games.
That would be a pretty good season...

considering their pre-season expectations. Would that impact our ability to get Peavy do you think? I would think yes.

:-p

I hope the next feature SBnation adds

is a filter so that every post with that pitcher’s name in it gets something different.

i’ve never gotten so exhausted of seeing anyone’s name before.

It's possible.

But you’ll have to ask Ted Lilly when he designs it. :)

All right, kids

I’ve got a good book calling my name. See y’all on Monday.

later buddy.
look at the positives

at least they’re crushing our hopes early this year rather than stringing us along until October

Here comes the do no wrong crowd....these guys are not getting it done....they've heard the criticism before.

it doesn’t mean that people are no longer Cubs fans, or hate the Cubs, it simply means they suck right now. Sheesh, what a bunch of oversensitive buffoons people are! The Cubs deserve all the criticism they get right now-you’re measured by how you perform….in anything.

VolPowers is not performing well on BCB lately....boo.
This almost

made me fall out of my chair with laughter.

LOL, maybe not! But at least I can get it out of the infield!?! Thanks for the criticism Woody!
Can you bat lefthanded?
If I could then Hendry would've overpaid me!
You're a man of honor. You would donate the excess to my re-election campaign.
Not sure what that means, but.....ok
i do!

but i’m blind in one eye.

That's 50 percent better than Aaron Miles right now! You're in!
agree

BUT on the other hand just cause they suck now doesn’t mean the season is over by any means, just have to keep plugging away and see what happens.

Not sure when I said the season is over....criticism doesn't always draw a final conclusion you know!
Nope

You’re right…just one more game closer to the season being over. And one huge, glaring albatross staring you in the face…that of an offense that is absolutely atrocious.

I like you.

You’re nice.

The problem is your criicism is based off one week of performance. Before they lost 6 straight they won 5, and are still over .500. It’s baseball. It’s a game of ups and downs. Jumping on their backs while they’re in a down moment doesn’t do anyone any good. As long as they make it to the all-star break near .500 we’re still very much in business.
Take lessons from teams that players love to play for, like St. Louis, where the fans stay behind the team even when things are rough.

Aren't we at .500?

or are we still over?

21-20 I believe
you are correct

i had to go look it up

Have you ever read a thread at Viva El Birdos? They are just as likely to be on the ledge as any other team. In fact they had a similar ’can’t score to save their life’ streak right up until we played them.

Come to St. Louis and I’ll take you to a game. We’ll see how often they boo a player with STL on their cap for striking out.

Whoopity doo....
Cubs fans with a championship in the last 5 years might be as lenient as that classy bunch too....make a comparison that matters
Just one week? So you're saying that they've performed up to expectations all season? It is a game of ups and downs, but this team is underachieving to everyone except you apparently.

With all the injuries and players well known for slow starts, yes, this team is performing pretty much where I’d expect.

Cards have actually had as many injuries, and they seem to be doing a little better. I don't recall them scoring less than 10 runs in a week.
I could look it up but I think they had lost 7 out of 10 and just been swept by the Brewers and lost a series to the Pirates before that not sure if they scored 10 that week or not

They’re also performing way above expectations and won’t sustain it.

And they have the best player, manager, and pitching coach in the game.

"Underachieving" is the key...

based on past performances, they will eventually begin to “achieve” at a much better expected level.

we hope :)

The whole team is BEYOND due

I look forward to that very thing.
Eventually

you’d think they’d start going back to their career numbers. esp the guys with good track records (bradley, lee, miles)…

hope that starts now.

Every team will win 60 games and every team will lose 60 games.

It’s the other 40 that make the difference.

You just try not to do that in the first 120
If you going to say we're playing those 40 games right now...then you'd have a point.
Yep

I’m actually stunned by most of the posts I’m seeing tonight. Rational thought, no ledge-jumping … keep it up, gang.

Don't disagree....how can they play worse? But it's time to step it up against this schedule.....many teams get the AL East, we get the Fathers....and we're 0-2 in this series.
Win tomorrow

And not only does the losing streak end, the Cubs go 4-2 against the Friars. But they also go back to SD for three games in August.

Winning tomorrow would be huge

get some confidence back for when you go home.

Yep again

The Pirates are going to be in Chicago almost a week. Maybe they’ll get nice and comfy in their digs at the Westin (or wherever) and roll over for the Cubs.

Problem is, the Cubs have the Dodgers in for four next week.

god really fuck my life
and I'M the negative one!?!
Don't pay any attention to lexmark....

he’s the token alcoholic on BCB.

Ahem.

I’m insulted.

that wasn't about the cubs
I see....just a general malaise?
yes today was a crappy day
well, chin up.....apparently I'm on the ledge because I dare call out the Cubs perfomance!
people can say whatever. it doesn't make them right or wrong.

personally i dont really give a crap about what people say especially certain people on BCB.

flagged
honestly that wasn't directed towards you so don't pick fights when you don't really need to pick fights
not picking fights

i just think this is inappropriate.

Not to mention theologically impossible.

+1

You might be on to something
tell me

what way is that affecting you? because you think that you’re like this person that like controls what everybody says. its really annoying

Especially when I sort of run things around here.
I found it completely appropriate

+1!

OT - If anyone cares...

…nail biter of a Dodgers/Angels game. It’s always nice hearing Vin Scully

Vin's special. Great announcer-but that goes without saying
I'm ticked he only does three innings on radio

81 years old and still solid.

he's a gem
In hell Vin would have to work with Judd.
In hell, Vin would have a color guy
in hell

judd would be on loop 23 1/2 hours a day.

I don't want to know what the other 30 minutes consists of.
blessed silence, aside from the fire and screams

where you realize how awful judd is all over again.

The other half hour would be Ken Harrelson.

If you have EI out of So. Cal check it out
Not a Chicagoan, so I gotta ask...do people like this Mike North guy on Monsters in the Morning?
No, no,

a thousand times no.

LOL!

Is that bait to start rants on that topic?

No, seriously....what are your thoughts?
Well, aside from the fact that he's a racist prick...

He tries to be a sports radio shock jock that doesn’t know the first thing about anything sports related. It makes me sad that anything Chicago sports related can ever be tied to him…

And only one guy

begging for DeRosa to come back! That might be the best part of this thread so far. :)

I miss DeRo…

he was very pretty
Buy EI or MLB.TV and you can watch him all year long.
???????

So……you think this is a better team without him? Seriously, do you? You’re basing this on his current numbers I assume?

It's not a question of whether or not the team would be better...

we’re just tired of hearing his name after every loss or bad inning.

I can understand that...but it was a horrible trade

it made no sense at the time, and now it really makes no sense with where our roster is at.

Most of us understand this fact....

and are just done discussing it. It’s in the past, we can’t change it. Some of us have just accepted it and moved on.

So those who haven't are wrong? It was a horrible trade and the team's fortunes are tied to it. Yes, moving on is an approach, but people are paid a lot of money to answer to these decisions.
I'll say it again

If this team goes down because it didn’t have Mark DeRosa, it wasn’t any good in the first place.

OK, that’s that.

agree 100%

Dero would be a nice piece since Ramriez is hurt, but he’s not a season changer.

How do you know?

When has he ever been a ‘season changer’ for any team he’s ever been on?

A season changer is a legitimate all star caliber player.

Mark DeRosa = Manny Ramirez?
Mark DeRosa on the Cubs=97 wins.
maybe its Edmonds or Blanco that we are REALLY missing?

Mark DeRosa= Dreamboat.

This is a fun game.....

Felix Pie on the Cubs = 97 wins.

LOL. How many positions did Felix play again?
Find me the ONE guy on this team who can back up third in light of our present situation?!? Discussion over youngster.
Reply fail?

Or are you ending the discussion with yourself?

Wait...I thought is was the offense that was the problem. Are we moving goalposts?
there are goalposts?

gawd. why did no one tell me!!

Oh yeah, DeRo hit 300 as a Cub
Okay?

And?

He’s not a Cub anymore.

and Fukudome his like 220....

and is hitting over 300 now.

Just how many more runs does Dero add to a team that scores 3 measly runs in 5 games?

Would he alone win 1 more game over the course of this first 2 months? 2 more games?

So............................................we're better now with Scales and Miles backing up Aram, or DeRoand Fonty backing up 3rd? Apparently, I'm confused. This appears to be a non-argument to me.

I’m not saying the team is better without Dero, I’d take him back but I’m saying its not ruining the season by not having him.

Is the argument I'm making that DeRo wins the game single-handedly, or that we're a better team with him on the roster
Can't disagree, but never underestimate chemistry
Winning

breeds chemistry.

The ‘86 Mets were 25 players, 25 cabs. Didn’t seem to hurt them.

I do love that story.

Can we at least agree that his team was poorly put together based on the “what happens if?” scenario

Not even that

If you’re talking about Ramirez and injuries, 15-20 games was anticipated. Not two months.

Perhaps Miles was counted on to be more versatile than he actually is. But they’ve gotten some unexpected contributions from Scales.

scales

Scales had a nice week or 10 days but I gotta believe his days are probably numbered with the Cubs. He’s the logical guy to go down if Fox gets the call.

Why would you exchange a guy who plays

2 positions for a guy who plays none?

that doesn’t make any sense to me at all.

Scales is a great story but I think in the big picture he’s not a super talented baseball player. Hopefully I’m wrong and he gets hot again…but guys aren’t just ‘discovered’ at 31 years old.

I agree

but he’s more useful than Fox would be.

Unless Fox is a really really good PH. Which i don’t know.

He's one of the few who is still having good AB's and he hit the ball hard twice tonight....

right at a defender both times.

Probably

They could just as easily jettison Freel, too, depending on who’s playing better. Although Freel can play outfield, too.

Didn't see the Fox part

I don’t know if you’ll see Fox anytime soon.

The only player hitting is Lee

Fox isnt going to be showing his face on THIS team any time soon. IMHO. You will see Soriano at 2B before Fox come up to play…..?

If they were winning I would agree right now Lou is probably pretty desperate for anyone that can hit. I don’t think Fox is the savoir but I’m guessing they give him a try.

Agreed, but...

no one comes up with bigger hits with more regularity than Ramirez. Miles was touted as a gamer, a winner from StL. He has not only underperformed, he has done it in the shadow of a beloved ex-Cub, which makes each weak ground out, and poor situational hitting look even worse. Hendry was and IS handcuffed financially, but the money he spent seems wasted and silly. If we had Scales, and he was capable of being a fill in player, why wasnt management aware of this and at least attempting to save funds.

Chemistry happens on winning teams

we looked great when we won 5 in a row.

hard to look like you’re having fun when you’re losing.

I thought that was a positive also

I dont want DeRo. I want the team we have to take care of business. We have players on this team, but it just so happens the best one is on the shelf. I miss him, not DeRo

hey guys i think i should flag people for the hell of it

since its really needed :) and it makes you a better person :)

Take a deep breath and think about what you actually typed up there in the thread. No go back and read the welcome message Al has made for all of us who post on BCB.
i will cause i'm a little testy right now
Would a nice little Cub winning streak make you feel better?

If so, tell me and I’ll make a few calls.

In a word, yes.
He made a comment you dont like....but as I recall he didnt make it AT ANYBODY in particular....perhaps it's time to lighten up a little
Perhaps it's time you also read...

the community guidelines.

Must I restate my original point....you can post all the community guidelines you want....what are you, the bus monitor?
nope. I'm just another user here like you.
i thought you and i were the thought police?

or something.

I've flagged everybody twice from two different computers

Now I feel better

Could you explain what purpose you believe the "flag" action should serve and in what general circumstance it should be used?

Pretty please?

It's called sarcasm

Flagging is useless

And I don't have two computers
But I do! Hmmmmm
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I would like to direct your attention to my previous comment that got “flagged.” First and foremost, i would not be embarrased to say that to a room full of strangers. Second of all, my comment was not directed towards anyone. Therefore, I’ve come to the conclusion that certain people are just trying to pick fights.

you would't be embarassed to walk into a bar

and have your very first words upon entering the door for the day be “god fuck my life”?

Pout a little harder.

no it's called honesty

if i felt that way then i will say it.

I'll bet lots of drunks say that...

…on a regular basis in a bar. Lets let it go already and not re-hash it. Als gonna be pissed if you guys keep this nonsense up!

I'm done.
Was it good for you?
Actually

i’m completely baffled.

That sounds very aerodynamic!
I do not think that words means what you think it means

lol

I wasn’t the one that decided to just make a big deal out of the situation.

Wow, what a defense....characterizing another's words as that of a drunk's.....granted, I found his/her comments odd, but c'mon?!?
It wasn't a defense.

Evidently, it was a failed attempt at sarcasm. Whoops

My bad. Sarcasm. Well, then it was funny.
Since BCB IS a community, you should know that free speech does not mean the right to say what you want, when you want, how you want, without being sensitive to, and respectful towards, individuals and the community as a whole. In a community, speech is not completely free; it comes with responsibility.

You cannot honestly tell me that you wouldn’t expect a reaction in public if you said “God really f >>> my life.” If you said this in earshot of children, would you not be surprised if parents reacted to you?

respectful towards, individuals and the community as a whole

My true intentions were not to disrespect people. If you really think about it, it doesn’t even make a difference because you can simply ignore it, but you chose to make it a big deal.

I'm not the one who flagged it. I've only tried to help you see WHY someone took exeption to it.
Apparently

1 word = big deal.

Who knew.

Which word?
I said

“flagged” and it turned into this.

next time, i’ll just flag without telling you why or that i have. i just though a heads up was warranted. Apparently I was wrong.

shrug.

No, I was just asking which word, the f word or the g word....hard to tell these days.
actually

it had more to do with the fact that your first comment is at the end of a game and all you do is swear.

if you’ve been at the game all day, swearing is understandable. but logging in only to swear is trolly.

well i see why the person decided to flag me.

i just thought of it to be very unnecessary.

I'm glad you can at least see the reasoning.
Me too....I wrote flagged because it seemed like fun.
We better get this offense straightened out before...

…the Dodgers come to town. My work is infested with Dodgers fans and the shi# talking will suck.

Anyone heard anything that Lou had to say?

Not that it means a whole lot, but was just interested.

Didn't catch it.

Sorry.

Wish I had though. I wonder what word Lou made up tonight.

Just need Pacino to come in now

“I’m flagged?! You’re flagged!! The whole game thread is flagged!!”

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