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Overflow Thread 3: Cubs vs. Twins, Friday 6/12, 1:20 CT

Hope you've got a win in your pocket by now, Randy.

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First

picture caption makes me sad

Here's to hoping we can get Wells a ND today.
There we go Lee, way to start off this thread
glad to see fonz busting his ass around third......
Alright D.! 6-4 now..
Thats the way DLEE!!
C'mon Soto, pick-up the team here!
Huh.

We just used all of our Outfielders. Bradley’s still in. I think this is Lou’s way of telling us he’s sticking with his guy. Risky, but respectable.

And go DLEE!!!

c'mon Geo....

make all the bad go away

WHAT IS THIS STRANGE LOOKING NUMBER NEXT TO "CUBS" ON THE SCORE BOARD?

I’M NOT USED TO SEEING SUCH A SYMBOL

Little too crooked for ya?
Soto, if ever we needed you, now is the time...
Soto

pops out. 6-4 Twins. On to the 9th.

and I'm into another meeting.
sori

playing 2B

cue carnival music
Sori at 2nd and miles at 3rd
Oh my god.

Soriano @ 2B. This is officially became a circus..

Didn't have to worry about that one
Sori to 2B, Miles to 3B, Micah in LF

Patton on the mound

Soriano is playing second. Oh boy
Least we got

our best defense out there right now. Sori at 2B, Miles at 3B and Hoff in LF.

Lou is beginning to shake things up...
Holy Crap.

What is this infield?

Lou's way of saying, get me some freakin' help here Jim Hendry!
How's that bench, working out, Jimbo?
General Patton gives up a HR on 2 pitches to Kubel

::sigh::

Kubal greets the

General with a long ball. 7-4.

Now that's the icing on the cake!..
I picked the wrong time to stop watching

and to stop sniffing glue

patton

you’re flight to colorado is waiting

more like greyhound to colorado
This game hurts more than others in recent memory.

What a joke. Getting killed by the Twins, Bradley not knowing what the hell is going on, and Soriano playing second base. Good, now we have 5 second basemen.

We look awful
This has to be Lou sending Hendry a message.
a message saying what?
Our infield sucks.

Can I has DeRo back please?

and Hendry is going to say..are you sure it's just the infield?
i hope hendry's message back is

sometimes you get what you wish for big boy

It's the only thing that makes sense.
About the team

or about himself?

you could not be more right
about aquafina?
Where is the door out?
I hate these kinds of games on Friday.

I start the weekend in a bad mood.

Crede grounds out

to Theriot. 1 out.

omg, did AM just get player of the game???

lol

Oh, why the hell not?

This game is f’ed

Great

How am I supposed to get through 30 frames tonight.
I told myself I would take it easy – forget that.

How sad is it that we're

forced to give Aaron Miles the player of the game cuz he got an infield hit and made a play at 2B??

Well

Before the 8th it probably would have been Bradley…

Miles is the Cubs player of the game...

::double sigh::

The End is Near.
That's the best news I've gotten all day

But for some odd reason I can’t make myself turn it off

That pretty much sums up

how crappy this game has been.

'Nother ground out

to Theriot. 2 out.

Why are the Twins not trying to hit the ball to Fonzie?
they think

hitting it out of the park works better

Can Fontenot play 1B?

That would be the icing on this circus game.

i dont think its a matter of "can"

anymore….

Zambrano will play first or right if there's another inning
and Lou will catch
will he throw a ball into the stands with less than 3 out?
He won't wait for two outs, he'll do it right away
does it matter?
Yes, it does. For fantasy players that are stupid enough to draft Fontenot.
Young 6-3

Mid 9, 7-4 Twins

Joe Nathan is good.
That's the understatement of the year.
Someone earlier said "Joe Mauer is good"

so I think that’s a draw

Why dont we get guys like nathan?
we do..but then they morph into Latroy Hawkins
Don't we spend enough for you?
Yea but they developed him and he came up through their system...

We can’t really say the same

they acquired him via trade

francisco liriano, joe nathan, boof bonser for aj pierzynski

The twinkies turned Nathan into a reliever,

the Giants wee using him as a starter.

he had 78 relief appearances as a Giant

the year before he was dealt

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/n/nathajo01.shtml

we did...

then we abuse them

Dome, Theriot and Miles up in the bottom of the ninth

against Nathan, 3 runs down. Where’s my beer ?

Stranger things have happened.
Hope you're right

but I’ll grab my beer just in case

I NEED Chocolate, LOTS of chocolate!
I cringe when I hear that
You don't like chocolate?
no, usually a bad time of the month

around the house

where's my prozac?
If nothing else, Al's recap should be interesting
Hmmmmm....

Do you think it will be choose your own mis-adventure?

"Cubs remember hoe to hit, forget how to pitch and field"
*how
Well, they've looked like

they’ve been taking hoes up to bat with them instead of bats for much of this season.

Thats about the only thing to look forward to!
I'm sure Lou

would love to “shake things up”
but how?
This is a horrible roster……….Bradley is NOT coming out of the lineup…….and if he does…..who in the hell takes his place?
The “old” Lou would go apeshit over something like that……….the just simply old Lou will just laugh it off after the game. They very well could be completely out of it by the All Star break………..they are fortunate that no one ahead of them is hot right now and lucky that they have some decent starting pitching

this is the roster lou requested

“more lh”

Dome 5-3
1 pitch...one out

what happened to dome’s patience and pitches seen per plate appearance…guess that went
bye-bye when deRo was let go

Of all the things that DeRosa's exit might have resulted in...

I really doubt that’s the reason for Dome’s ostensible lack of patience at the plate…

poor attempt at sarcasm

sorry

Ah...

Sorry. I wondered ‘cause it seemed so outlandish. :) Should’ve figured…(though with this board, you never know. :))

I wasn't going to drink tonight.
I don't EVER drink but I might have to start now
you're missing out
Neither was I

a little too much thirsty in my Thursday this week.

But this is a tough one.

I thought the Lakers were toast when Dwight Howard went to the line so.....

… anything could happen.

Do the Cubs have a Derek Fisher?

We have plenty of people as vertically challenged as him, none as clutch as him though
AM

three pointer right here!!!

I hate to say this...

but I don’t even really enjoy watching this team play as of late. I mean… since when is it not fun to watch one’s favorite team play?

When they lose
But they lost

a lot back when (1990-1997), and it seems like it was still fun to watch Ryno and the gang give it a go.

Expectations are different now

Giving it a go isn’t enough anymore I guess.

Yeah, it was awesome see Mark Grace...

or was it Ryno, grab a bat and write “.500?” in the dirt.

Are you joking?

I regret not watching this. This sounds like the funniest, most cluster-f’ of a game ever.

Weren't you a fan in 2006?

That was pure and unabashed suckitude.

The line for our 5-6-7 hitters tonight....

is painful to read….eesh.

Even Kasper sounds resigned
HERE COMES THE PLAYER OF THE GAME!

AARON MILESSSSSSSSSSS

"It's up

to Aaron Miles to keep the Cubs alive." Ooof!

that should be a quote somewhere
ALRIGHT THE PLAYER OF THE GAME IS UP
What Kasper just said is the saddest thing I think I've ever heard...

“It’s up to Miles to keep the Cubs alive”

Allowed 17 hits today

sheesh.

This game just

adds to an already shitty day.

Its time to let Reed Johnson

be the every day CF…that is one feasible move to shake things up. Letting Jake Fox play third would work too.

No it isn't... RJ is not an everyday guy...
Kosuke Fukudome

is not an any day player at this point. Lesser of two evils for me.

Dome is the epitome of an everyday guy.

Smartest player on the field. Saves our butt with his defense, and can hit.

I like that

Saves our butt with our defense: He is a right fielder playing center. His defense is certainly fine, but Reed’s is too.

He can hit: If you havent been convinced otherwise yet you likely wont be. Kosuke is a .250 MLB hitter, with very little pop and only decent speed. CF’s of his ability are a dime a dozen. In fact we have one sitting on our bench making about a 1/4 of the money, Reed Johnson.

You are short sighted...

He plays CF seamlessly, can play all outfield positions. He is a .250 hitter with only a yr. and a half, (almost), of MLB experience. He has more than decent speed, as evidenced by his play in CF. He is certainly not a dime a dozen. Furthermore, RJ doesn’t hit righties, look at his splits, and has a bad back. Start him everyday, and he won’t be here past the all star break.

Dome

May only have 1.5 years of MLB experience, but he’s 32. That’s typically the start of the downside for guys. Dome is not worth the money he’s making.

Oh, take one

for the team, Aaron!!

this is our player of the game

you don’t take one for the team if you’re a superstar

Haha

Laughing through the tears.

No kidding

Not good for much else up there.

take one for the team, aaron
Aaron, why did you not just take that HBP.

That’s a baserunner AND you go on the DL.

Player of the Game Aaron Miles 6-3

Game over.

I'm gonna refer to him as POG from now on

he sure earned it

And that'll do it, nice work today everyone
Well, that was a Twin Killing if there ever was one
1,2,3

in the ninth…what THAT must be like???

We'll never know

Unless Cubs pitchers get to pitch to Cubs hitters.

I can't wait for this post-game.

I’m tingling with excitement over Lou & Milton being interviewed!

And that's just it...

… the excitement may not yet be over. Now two of the most volatile people in baseball have to face the press after a game like this.

Why do I feel like there won't be any fireworks

just resignation. Just doesn’t seem to be any fire

"Well, uh, y'know, we have to execute, and ah, we didn't execute"

“I’ll have more for you on Monday and we’re gonna try to get back to fundamentals and, uh, execute.”

Twins Win!

You are a sick, sick man.
If you're not sick after watching/listening to today's game, then your dead.
hehehe

that’s a good one.

it’s beyond crying and into laughing stage….

Let's go

White Sox.

blech
Gimme 3

ChiSox wins as opposed to falling 5 1/2 games back any day a the week.

Yea true, forgot they were playing Milwaukee
Whoa whoa whoa

let’s not get carried away

You understand why

I’m saying that, of course?

I was a little behind on that one

I gotcha now

That's hard to do

even if they are playing the Cards

meant the Brewers
All right, kids

I’m out – gonna try and stay off the sauce tonight. Not real sure that’s gonna work out, but I’ll try

Please,

Lets work up some positive karma for tomorrow’s game!

Karma isn't paid back in this lifetime.
Later everyone..

It’s been very interesting to say the least. Time to get back to the real world though.

What Wells is thinking

NOW THEY SCORE 4 F(&^%$$ING runs when I started.

I feel so bad for wells.
This is just plain bad baseball

No excuses, no silver linings, no hoping against hope for a turnaround. At the end of the day, this collective group of players has to stand up and look in the mirror and no matter what personal achievements they believe they they may have accomplished, and admit that they are playing bad, bad, bad baseball with regularity. I don’t want to hear “it’s early”. I don’t want to hear “we’ll get there, we have to”. Shut up. Play baseball….the correct way. Pretend you care, take professional approaches to the plate, run the bases fundamentally sound, play good defense, concentrate on the mound. And then do it again tomorrow. Then and only then, will this team turn it around.

No magic rainbows or lucky coins will turn this around. Period.

Excellent post

no more excuses or " we like where we are"

"This isn't a sprint, it's a marathon"
Agreed.

This is not a good team, the manager seems to have all but given up and the players are pretty much just going through the motions. There’s zero fire here and that’s the kind of condition, unfortunately that isn’t going to just magically get better.

This reminds me so much of the Cubs teams that I grew up watching in the mid-70’s. They pretty much went out there expecting to lose and this team doesn’t look any different to me.

On the plus side, at least they’re not going to string us along all summer and then roll over in the playoffs. The only way this team is going to see the post season is on TV. I just wish I could see some evidence that any of them care.

Wells

And this may be harsh but quite honestly, I couldn’t care less if Randy Wells went 0-21 as long as it meant the Cubs won all 21 of them. Team wins are important. Individual wins are not. I wish everyone in the media would quit writing about the lack of run support for him. This is a team game, individual stuff is secondary. Pat Wells on the back for doing his job and move on. No more pity parties for Randy Wells.

You may in fact be crazy.

Randy Wells does not magically make the team hit or not hit. He’s done pretty well. Back off.

Huh?

I suppose you should re-read the post and figure out what it’s about.

Lou on the post game press conf..

> I don’t have any answers..
> I don’t have any answers..
>Wells has done a heck of a job
>Bradley had a bad day
>Lou is enamored with Joe Mauer
>They swing the bats today, we had a few opportunities but..uh huh…let’s go and get em tomorrow
>I don’t know what else to say.
>I am sure he (Bradley) is somewhat embrassed by it….
>Today has been better than it’s been
>Kept Soriano at 2nd because Hoff might come up in 9th..but it didn’t happen
>Fukudome is not staying on the ball. Swings getting a little longer…….
>Thank you

No, Lou...

Thank YOU.

blah...blah...blah...
Gone

If Lou doesn’t have any answers, he should be shown the door. Yes, that is harsh but it’s his job to find the answers, otherwise every single one of us could take turns at managing the club. He’s highly compensated to manage the team, if he’s not able to do that, hand the keys over.

And honestly, I don’t think it’s his fault for the most part. Yes, there were times he could have done some different things or he did things that hurt the club on a given day, but at the end of the day, he’s still not taking the AB’s on a regular basis. He may as well hit for Miles, but I digress.

But if that is the stance he takes, get rid of him no matter what the back of his managerial baseball card shows. If he’s done…he should be gone.

Managers just can't...

…flip a switch, and make underperforming players all of a sudden play to their abilities. It would be nice if it was that easy, but if you have watched baseball for any length of time, you already know this.

Besides the starting pitching, the club has just not performed to date and it’s up to the players to kick it in the ass and take some pride in what they do. Just as I never put the bulk of the blame on Baker in his last couple of years. If you think the problem here is the manager, you are sadly mistaken.

Point 3 is good

I don’t really understand the rest of them. Well, except for point 7, which is what I was afraid of

If you repeated Lou's explanation to you boss...........

after a 2nd quarter revenue loss of $10,000,000 your department was responsible for…………

Would you have a job Monday?

That depends...is it a government or union job? If so, then yeah, probably. If no, then of course not.
If he was anybody but Lou Pinella (or maybe Joe Torre)

he’d have already been launched by now.

Hendry isn’t going to do it though. I don’t see Lou quitting either and, at this point, I really don’t see what kind of a difference it will make anyway.

Blah.

I’m out. Lame game. Boo Bradley.

Lou, get some energy, please.

Kaplan was "stunned" to see Bradley throw the ball into the bleachers with 2 outs
I was stunned.
Who wasn't?
That's b/c Kaplan is an idiot.
I know he is..but I don't fault with him being stunned at that stupidity
Does it really matter...

…what Kaplan thinks??? The guy is as goofy as Bradley himself, just in a different way.

It’s a long year, but the lug nuts are definately loose on the Cub’s mobile. This club could finish 4th or it could finish 1st, it all depends on whether Bradley, lee, Soto and Soriano have it in them to step up – especially with Ramirez on the shelf.

This team ...

manages to frustrate me more each time I watch …. They’re starting to remind me more of the 2004 Cubs every day

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