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The All-Zimmerman(n) Show: Cubs vs. Nationals Preview, Saturday 7/18, 6:05 CT

WASHINGTON -- As if it's not confusing enough that both teams in this series have a Guzman and a Johnson (no TWSS jokes needed here, please!), the Nationals will trot out two guys named Zimmerman(n) tonight. Ryan Zimmerman, of course, is their starting third baseman, and Jordan Zimmermann, who got an extra "n" at birth, will be tonight's starting pitcher for Washington.

Meanwhile, Alfonso Soriano's dislocated right pinky finger may have him out for more than a few days:

Soriano said he dislocated the finger when second baseman Alberto Gonzalez tagged him out while he was diving back to first during a fourth-inning rundown Thursday night. He popped it back in and continued to play, but the finger swelled up overnight. Soriano was scratched from the starting lineup Friday night and is expected to miss at least a couple more games.

"I don't have power in my hand because I can't grab the bat," he said.

Now, I am not an in-shape professional athlete. But I dislocated the same finger Soriano did, a couple of years ago. (I popped it back in place too. The doctor who saw me said I probably shouldn't have done that. But it was bent out at a 45-degree angle and I couldn't stand looking at it like that!) In any case, it took me a good month before it felt anywhere close to normal and I didn't have to grip a bat and play baseball at the major league level. It may be more than "a few days". Given Soriano's struggles, we can have a reasonable debate on whether this hurts or helps the Cubs. (Jessica will be happy if this gives Sam Fuld more playing time.)

Also noted in Paul Sullivan's article, Ted Lilly has a bit of knee soreness -- nothing serious, we are told -- and so Ted's start will be pushed back to the series opener at Philadelphia on Monday.

Lilly is scheduled tentatively to pitch Monday night in Philadelphia, but in essence the Cubs are only buying some time before deciding whether to put the left-hander on the disabled list.

"Maybe signing [B.J.] Ryan could be a good timing thing for us," manager Lou Piniella said, meaning Sean Marshall may have to move into the rotation, with Ryan taking his spot as the late-inning lefty out of the bullpen.

Ted Lilly to the DL? Preposterous. Ted Lilly eats DL's for lunch.

Star-divide

Today's Starting Pitchers
Randy Wells
Randy
Wells

Cubs
vs. Jordan Zimmermann
Jordan Zimmermann
Nationals
4-4 W-L 3-4
2.72 ERA 4.50
53 SO 84
17 BB 28
7 HR 9
vs. Was -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Randy Wells 4-4 12 12 0 0 0 0 76.0 68 24 23 7 17 53 2.72 1.12


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Jordan Zimmermann 3-4 15 15 0 0 0 0 86.0 89 46 43 9 28 84 4.50 1.36

This is the rookie year for both of tonight's pitchers. Jordan Zimmermann has made 15 starts and since June 1 has a 2.70 ERA. However, since he's a Nat, that has resulted in only a 2-5 record. This is his first start vs. the Cubs.

Randy Wells, as you know, had a similar problem, throwing very well in his first six starts but getting only four no-decisions and two losses. Since June 12 -- his only really bad start, vs. the Twins -- he is 4-1, 2.94. He will be facing the Nats for the first time.

The Cubs are back on WGN tonight, along with MASN in the DC area. For other games today see the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday

Baseball-reference.com game preview

SB Nation game preview

I was remiss the other day in not mentioning the well-written SB Nation Nationals blog, Federal Baseball.

Overflow comment threads will post today at 7 pm, 8 pm and 8:45 pm CDT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Comments

DL SORIANO!

It’s time

Its the perfect time, actually!

… and has everyone forgotten? Ted Lilly is the man of steel! He don’t need no stinkin’ DL!

Yes

That away he can get his entire body healthy. Then be a “fresh” force down the stretch.

Soriano back in the lineup today....
I spit on that

PTOOEY!

Lilly's Knee soreness?

Did it happen on the plane to St. Louis? Man….

I've dislocated a pinky and popped it back in myself too

though I popped it back in just because the pain was getting worse the longer I left it and I was still waiting for a ride to the hospital to get it popped in/x-rayed. After a weekend wrapped up it was pretty much fine, which is how it’s stayed since. Pretty much fine, it’s been years and the knuckle is still oversized and I can’t extend the finger totally straight.

Though it’s not like a eff’ed up finger is that big of a deal to an athlete. Just check out a long time NFL WR’s hands

(remember you can click the comment title to make Torry Holt’s deformed hand go away).

and that’s not unusual. A story about Reggie Wayne referred to his hands as “gnarled”.

Lineup

Fuku
Riot
Lee
Rami
Milty
Sori-oh no
Fonty
Hill
Wells

Exactly

who does Jeff Baker need to sleep with to get in the lineup?

where'd you find that?
gordon twittermyer
Soriano's pinky isn't dislocated as feared

he’s starting tonight!

yay for games on wgn!

:-)

That is a good thing!
Greetings from the old country

It’s 10:15pm here, and I’m going to attempt to stay up for the beginning of the game. While not being broadcast on AFN, you do have to love High Definition broadcasts through MLB.tv :)

Haven't seen you in a while. :D
Sorry about that...

Still have some Baileys here somewhere…

mmmmmmm ;-)
Greetings.

Where in the UK are you at?

About 30 miles west of Cambridge
My plans might have me in the UK next summer...

I’d be near Reading, England.

Washington Lineup

1. Morgan, CF
2. Johnson, 1B
3. Zimmerman, 3B
4. Dunn, LF
5. Willingham, RF
6. Harris, 2B
7. Gonzalez, SS
8. Nieves, C
9. Zimmermann, P

if the Nationals had decent pitching they could contend

that’s a pretty solid lineup, but their pitching just flat out sucks

I think you've pretty much described the entire NL East
braves have pretty good pitching.
Braves have good hitting when they want, too

I’ve been to two games at Turner this year. Both games they scored double digits.

Thankfully, when they played at the Friendly Confines with me in attendance, they were held to 2 runs. And a L. :)

Aw, man - when were you in town?

Sorry I missed you at Turner. Of course, I may not have been here myself.

First was in May

Against the Rockies… and then just a few weeks ago against the Phillies.

And I was at Wrigley on the 6th.

Gotcha

Glad the Braves put on a show for you, at least.

Other than the $7 beers

It was a good time. Even though I still consumed a fair number of those. Sat towards the front half of Section 212 both times – great view for a decent $30. Too bad the park doesn’t attract higher numbers, though both were weeknights. Turner is a great park and the Braves aren’t a bad team. And who doesn’t like it when the ChickFilA cow does the chop?

That cow is damned creepy

The trick to avoiding $7 beers is to pay even more for mixed drinks at The Chop House. A double-tall will set you back $20 with tip, but if you make friends with your bartender (tip generously), they will remember you the next time you see them. Magically, your next double-tall becomes a triple- or quadruple-tall. I generally don’t get (or need!) more than three drinks for the whole game.

Why isn't this type of info on the FAQ!?

Guess that’s incentive to find seats closer to the chop house.

5th in the N.L. in OPS

last in ERA

2nd to last in the Major Leagues

only 1 A.L. team is worse (CLE) and they have to face a D.H. instead of a pitcher.

it's a little weird tonight

I’m a die hard cub fan, but Jordan Zimmermann was my roommate at UW-Stevens Point…who to root for?

cubs win it late after zimmermann is out. of course thats not what I will be rooting for.
Jordan Zimmermann gives up 20 runs in the 1st inning then rips open unform to reveal a Cubs Jersey?
This post is useless without photoshop.
No kidding.

Where are SWL and Drew when we need them?

he pitches well

gets a no decision and the cubs win.

:-)

or he gets traded right before the game and the cubs dont face him at all

*Greetings to all...diehard Cub fan here, making my first post on BCB*

Grew up in Rockford listening to the Cubs and am now stuck in of all places St. Louis. Believe me, all the snide comments about Cardinal fans are usually true here.

I was wondering…is there a way to keep the game thread continuing while watching a game without hitting the refresh button constantly?

it updates automatically, or atleast it should

In a modern browser,

New comments should automatically appear. You can also use keyboard controls to switch between them.

Thanks

I just noticed that it did update automatically, I had been reading this fansite a lot this year without registering as a member…so it didn’t then. I’m glad to see that because it’ll make it a lot easier to post a comment after a play in the game.

I was a member of the Ivy website for a few years and saw it degrade to a negative pissing contest, and was glad to see a site with members that have a sense of humor and for the most part don’t attack each other.

If you're signed in

on a current browser (although, i’ve heard there are issues with safari) comments update automatically. You’ll get a box that pops up on the right side with the user names of those who just posted.

You can use the keyboard. At the top of the comment frame there is this text:

Press C to tab through new comments, Shift-C to tab backwards, X to mark a comment as read, and Shift-A to mark all read.
Z will simultaneously mark and tab forward, and R will reply to the comment that has focus.

Those shortcuts make game threads a LOT easier to do.

You can also click the title of a comment and collapse it. That helps save screen real estate when you get a picture or long post.

Welcome. :-)

Welcome here!

The game threads update themselves, from what I have seen. I hope you enjoy commenting tonight.

Thanks for the welcome

This is sort of like going back to Rockford to watch a Cub game amongst friendly fans…not quite as good as being at the ballgame lol.

I know. I joined for the same reason, to talk baseball with Cubs fans.
Where in Rockford?

Displaced Rockford-ian (I guess that would be a word), now residing in Tacoma Wa

Thanks Allie

I’ve seen the collapse function but had ignored the other keyboard functions…I did read the posting guidelines and we will see if I can understand the ways to post a link lol. I wanted to find a better avatar but didn’t have a pic that fit the size restrictions when I registered.

Your 'Z' key will never know what hit it
No issues on the avatar

whatever floats your boat, pretty much.

The keyboard functions are great.

Z seems appropriate there...

Course since I would throw a baseball like a wet noodle comparatively…his penchant for letting his emotions get away are a lot better than having me in there.

Also, using the reply button

will make life easier on everyone. at the bottom of a thread sometimes it doesn’t seem as important, but it does help.

gotcha

sorry i was bein lazy lol

MLB.tv running... check

Computer hooked up to big screen… check
Cold beer Dr Pepper in hand… check
Ready for Chicago Cubs Baseball… HECK YES!

Please keep your hands inside the car at all times

And JUMP!

Off-topic question:

When anyone else posts a comment, does their browser window revert to the top of the pregame thread?

Sorry, logging out and back in seems to have fixed it.
this inning was very un-wells like
why is bradley being used against a righty?

his splits say dont use hum

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