My friend Mike has always said, when unexpected or unusual things happen in baseball, "Anyone who tells you they have this game figured out, laugh in their face!"
That phrase is certainly true this afternoon. After Rich Harden had thrown poorly in day games -- and at Wrigley Field in general this year -- who figured he could throw six innings and allow only one hit, only one baserunner? That hit was a home run by Cub-killer Joey Votto, but that's all Harden gave up -- he was outstanding today, striking out eight in six excellent innings, throwing only 90 pitches (61 strikes).
Hypothetical question: let's say Votto doesn't hit that home run and Harden throws six perfect innings. Do you let him continue? (I say emphatically, yes.)
In any case, the offense also produced today and the 5-2 win over the Reds, combined with the Phillies' 9-2 blowout of the Cardinals, put the Cubs alone in first place in the NL Central for the first time this season (they were tied for the top spot five other dates, all in April, the last time April 21, when the team record was 8-4). It also put the Cubs three games ahead of St. Louis in the loss column -- and I know we had a long discussion about that earlier this year, but that really is important. Those are three wins that don't have to be made up later, and the Cubs still have five games in hand -- they have played 96 games, the Cardinals 101. Today's paid crowd of 41,528 was, by 19 people, the largest crowd of the 2009 season to date. And after struggling at home earlier this year, the 30-18 home record is third-best in the NL (behind the Dodgers and Giants).
The offense was also outstanding today -- and I'll give kudos to Milton Bradley, who drew two walks, scoring both times, and singled in four at-bats (and who might have gotten jobbed on a called third strike in the 7th inning). Since Kosuke Fukudome is doing a good job leading off, why not consider batting Bradley second? (Or, maybe not fool around at all with a lineup that's produced eight wins in ten games since the All-Star break.) Fukudome also made an outstanding throw after catching a fly ball, to nail Edwin Encarnacion trying to score. Dusty Baker came out to argue -- that's probably more animated than we saw him the entire four years he managed the Cubs. That throw saved Angel Guzman from what could have been a bad inning -- he walked two, uncharacteristic for him, and Fukudome's throw kept the inning scoreless. Bradley was waiting for Fukudome at the dugout to congratulate him -- Milton seemed really fired up about the play and that's the kind of thing I do love to see. It does seem as if this team is, at last, after 96 games, finding its identity.
Alfonso Soriano continued his hot streak with two hits and even though he hit into a double play to end the seventh-inning rally, that ball was laced hard right at Edwin Encarnacion. Soriano may be beginning one of those "carry the team" streaks -- only right now, there are different heroes every day. Raise your hand if you thought Koyie Hill was going to hit both a double and triple this afternoon.
Here's the only negative about today's game -- Jeff Samardzija had a shaky ninth inning, forcing Lou to summon Kevin Gregg to close things out. Samardzija has to be a prime candidate to go back to Iowa when Ryan Dempster is activated to start on Tuesday. It seems the tinkering they've done with his mechanics simply isn't working -- I think the Shark should go back to what he was doing last year, when he pitched well in relief down the stretch. Gregg threw four pitches -- same as Saturday -- to notch his 21st save, which is only four off the league lead.
Trade rumors were quiet today -- it seems as if the Cubs are going to wait & see what happens over the next few days, particularly with B.J. Ryan due to report to Iowa tomorrow. If Ryan is healthy and throwing the way he did last year, that might be a better acquisition than any other relief pitcher the Cubs could acquire (and would allow Sean Marshall to take over Ted Lilly's rotation slot), and the cost is only a pro-rated portion of the minimum salary.
Keep the faith, everyone. The Cubs are in first place and playing well. Onward to defeating the Astros this week.
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Yay!
First post in a recap of the first place Chicago Cubs!
DTJchris - July 26, 2009
In case anyone forgot
Here’s what first place looks like
SackMan - July 27, 2009
Lots of losers in the NL Central today
Except that one…
Clutch16 - July 27, 2009
This season is over.
This unlikeable group will never be able to compete with better organizations like LA and PHI who do baseball the right way, with fundamentals. The window of opportunity was over with the end of the 2008 season. We should save ourselves the trouble, dismantle the team, fire that piece of garbage Hendry, and bulldoze Wrigley field. Hopefully Ricketts has the foresight to do what should have been done years ago… sell everything for parts and move the team to Mexico City.
Grumble grumble grumble.
/sarcasm.
AndrewJStone - July 27, 2009
Jeez just get Beimel
He can’t cost much and worse comes to worse you get TWO lefties in the pen.
Doggie Stalker - July 26, 2009
If I didn't know you, Jessica...
… I’d think you were Mrs. Beimel.
Let’s let the BJ Ryan experiment play out. Beimel will be available after the waiver deadline.
Al Yellon - July 26, 2009
No time for that
I don’t even LIKE Beimel but we need a decent lefty to free Sean Marshall. Beimel is available and the only question of the cost is what other teams will pay for him. Trade deadline is less than a week away and we can’t wait and see IF Ryan works. Beimel has decent numbers just get him. Worse case is that you have two lefties in the pen, hardly a problem and not like we don’t have a few expendable bodies in the pen now
Doggie Stalker - July 26, 2009
So far, the team is winning.
I think we can wait.
Al Yellon - July 26, 2009
No we can't
Beimel will NOT clear waivers. There are probably at least 8 teams that will grab him. If we had not screwed up and waited for Coste to clear waivers and actually MADE a trade for him with a prospect we would have a back up catcher now. I really dislike Beimel. Jackass got in a bar fight in the playoffs and cost his team dearly but he is by far the best left handed option out there.
Doggie Stalker - July 26, 2009
Weren't we still waiting for the Soto injury results....
….when Coste was picked up? How did we screw that up? We didn’t need a catcher until we found out Soto was going to be out an extended amount a day or two later.
carmen_fanzone - July 26, 2009
We screwed that up
by not being crappier. ‘stros plucked him off waivers one slot above us. If he’d been waived a day later, we would’ve had a shot at him before the Astros… IIRC
Allie - July 26, 2009
Right....
…..but in that 10 day waiver period, we didn’t know the extent of Soto’s injury. So I’m wondering why Stalker would think we screwed up in not trading for Coste. We didn’t need a catcher (at least for an extended time) at that point. It was only a couple of days after Coste was picked up that we found out that Soto was going to be out for 4 weeks, if memory serves.
carmen_fanzone - July 26, 2009
I think you misunderstood or I worded it poorly....
..I wasn’t asking “how we screwed it up”, I was asking Stalker why she thinks we screwed up by not trading for Coste.
carmen_fanzone - July 26, 2009
I'm running on no sleep
I’ve been up since 4:30 am (and have totaled 9 hours of sleep all weekend)… don’t hold it against me! :-P
Allie - July 26, 2009
Hahaha....no biggie
Better hit that pillow!
carmen_fanzone - July 26, 2009
Maybe
its been… a little insane here lately.
Allie - July 26, 2009
The Cubs TRIED to get Coste off waivers
They KNEW they needed a back up catcher. They should have offered the Phillies a modest prospect and Coste would have been ours. It was a very bad decision.
Doggie Stalker - July 26, 2009
They didn't know they needed a back-up until after Geo was re-examined....
Soto was pulled from the lineup on July 8th. Determined it was a slight oblique strain and would be re-examined on July 10th. July 10th he was re-examined, then put on the DL. Coste was claimed by Houston on the same day. Because Houston had the worse record, they got Coste.
If they KNEW they needed a back up catcher before the re-examination on July 10th, they could have made a trade on the 8th or 9th. But they didn’t actually know they needed a back up until he was re-examined on Friday the 10th to find out the extent of the injury. Remember, initially he was just going to be out until after the All Star break.
So, no, Stalker they didn’t know their needs until it was too late.
carmen_fanzone - July 26, 2009
No Coste was DFA'd on July 10
This meant the Phillies had TEN days to make a deal IF they thought they could. Had the Cubs communicated to the Phillies they MIGHT be interested and would actually offer a PLAYER for Coste , the Phillies could have held off letting the Astros take him. Last year when the Cubs DFA’d Eyre the Phillies stepped up and gave the Cubs a prospect for him rather than letting a team higher on the food chain claim him. The Cubs misplayed this. They put in a CLAIM for Coste but the Astros got him because they had a worse record , had the Cubs done what they SHOULD have, the would have offered a prospect and they would have got him not the Astros.
Doggie Stalker - July 26, 2009
Coste probably wasn't worth a prospect.
Al Yellon - July 27, 2009
As opposed to Koye Hill catching every game for weeks ?
He sure as hell was. I think he is hitting better than Hill as well. You need two catchers PERIOD. Cubs have been lucky so far but very, very bad planning. Also part of general pattern of the Cubs hoping a particular player’s injury is not so serious and putting off making the correct move to back him up.
Doggie Stalker - July 27, 2009
Since Hill started catching every day...
… the Cubs are 10-6 (and that includes losses in the first three of those 16 games).
I agree if Soto’s going to be out for more than another week, they need someone. In the meantime, the team is winning.
Al Yellon - July 27, 2009
I'm with Jessica on this
Catcher is the most physically demanding position, and to expect one guy to handle almost every inning for three weeks is ridiculous.
Granted, it’s not going to hurt his offense, but to have only one real catcher for that long is inexcusable. The head-scratching nature of it is not atypical of the Hendry era.
Wednesday after a night game ought to be interesting . . . if Fox is ever going to start behind the plate, that would be the day.
Shanghai Badger - July 27, 2009
Don't get your hopes up
Not only has Hill already caught two day games after a night game, one of those was after the THIRTEEN inning night game. Clearly the Cubs do NOT think Fox is capable of catching a game ( and I tend to agree) . If they did , he would have done so by now.
Doggie Stalker - July 27, 2009
Which underlines the fact that not having a backup
Is inexcusable.
Shanghai Badger - July 27, 2009
You of all people should know better than that
They are the same 10-6 with Heilman on the roster. So obviously you would not want to cut him.
They have been very lucky by winging it with one poor hitting back up catcher as their starter
( Hill is good defensively). FYI Çoste is hitting fifty points higher than Hill .256 Vs .206 the rest of their numbers including AB are nearly identical. The Cubs made a mistake in not getting Coste and they are at risk of it blowing up their face big time .
Doggie Stalker - July 27, 2009
that's a little
misleading, Jessica. Heilman has pitched in only a few of those games. You’re going to suggest that a middle reliever has as much influence over the game as the catcher?
Cmon.
drewishdrewid - July 27, 2009
No I am suggesting
That Hill being the only catcher on the roster did not lead the Cubs to a 10-6 record and
NOT having a back up is a VERY dangerous situation. You are the one who rants on
“small sample size” but really this is just a case of saying the Cubs being 10-6 had little to do with Hill and we F(&^%$$$ing need a back up catcher LIKE EVERY OTHER TEAM in baseball. We are probably lucky TLR didn’t tell one of his players to accidently hit Hill with a bat while at the plate and see how it would be to have FOX catch both ends of the DH against the Cardinals 3 weeks ago.
Doggie Stalker - July 27, 2009
But . . . but . . .
If they called up another catcher, they might have to go to 11 pitchers. And actually, you know, USE all their pitchers.
Shanghai Badger - July 27, 2009
Like anyone would miss Shark etc
What was I thinking those other 29 teams are IDIOTS for keeping a stupid extra catcher when they could have a mop up man instead. Wimpy guys like I-Rod
Maur and all those Molinas should be able to catch 162 games
Doggie Stalker - July 27, 2009
Exactly.
And if Doug Dascenzo can pitch, other players should be able to, as well!
Shanghai Badger - July 27, 2009
I'm not arguing
that they don’t need another catcher, although I would like to see Fox catch some of a real game before deciding that he’s incapable.
I’m just saying that you can’t equate the contributions of a relief pitcher with the catcher.
drewishdrewid - July 27, 2009
Drew if they though he could catch
They would have USED him. They have not. I was not equating relief pitchers with catchers just pointing out that to say we are 10-6 with Hill catching is both meaningless and no justification for this idiotic situation. Back up catchers are FAR more important than one extra body in the bullpen Lou will only use in a blow out. Cubs are trying to gut this out and I think it is an accident waiting to happen.
Doggie Stalker - July 27, 2009
Joe Beimel
Has his own introduction video when he comes into a game for the Nationals. Enough said.
Not Bruce Froemming - July 26, 2009
NBF!!!!
where ya been?
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
Yeah, but who else would get one in DC?
I mean, it’s not like Austin Kearns or Ronnie Belliard deserves a video…
I still maintain that Hendry could get Beimel for various useful AAA spare parts – hell, Ascaino could probably move straight into their closer spot, since he’d only have to pitch once/week. And the Nationals desperately need a backup infielder so they can send Ronnie Belliard on his way with a fruit basket, so send them Aaron Miles after eating most of his 2010 salary and declare victory.
Invalid User - July 27, 2009
Not so sure, Jessica
Beimel’s not that big of a deal to me. But, as a LOOGY, I guess he’s OK.
San Diego Smooth Jazz Man - July 26, 2009
if that's the case
Sam Fuld is going to be in for quite a shock when he comes home early to meet Mrs. Fuld. :P
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
huh
cubsluver22 - July 26, 2009
Al
Sorry I missed you today. Tried to make my way from center field, but never connected. What a great day and win! Waiting in bleacher line fr 9:30am was worth it- 1st place. My shirt is now 6- 0!
Slakkr - July 26, 2009 via mobile
You must go to more games!
Al Yellon - July 26, 2009
If you can't make a game, send the shirt to the game with Al...
Zeke - July 27, 2009
Clearly, you are no slacker, Slakkr.
daver - July 27, 2009
Sir, I've met a slacker and indeed, you are no slacker...
Zeke - July 27, 2009
Agreed
Seems like Marshall has earned that starting role. Bullpen seems to have worked itself out for now (except Heilman…shudder). Marshall has pitched well and hasn’t had a start that didn’t give the team a chance to win. This is a guy who also didn’t give up a run in spring training, fwiw.
Musicdude10 - July 26, 2009
I've only said this
100 times since the beginning of last offseason!
cubsluver22 - July 26, 2009
Harden was outstanding today!
He has been phenomenal — not good, not great, but PHENOMENAL — his last three starts. Including today, his last three outings he’s gone 19 innings, given up 2 runs on 8 hits and only 2 walks. Oh, and 21 K’s. Looks like the Harden of ’08 has finally graced us with his presence!
kanderber - July 26, 2009
back to the 08 Rich Harden
it would be HUGE if he could keep it up.
jeff_pico - July 26, 2009
ya he was fantastic.
I was upset we were hitting for him in the 6th with reds heart of the order in the 7th. But alls wells that end wells. I guess it was a good move even though we did not pick up hill from second. We at least save some pitches in his arm especially coming off like 112 pitches his last time out in philly.
MandMexpress12 - July 26, 2009
Indeed
he’s been awesome since the ASB.
slcathena - July 26, 2009
Okay
couple this up with Soriano and Bradley getting hot, and we just might have something here
wild bill - July 26, 2009
Dave Kaplan?
daver - July 27, 2009
That's EXACTLY right.
Shanghai Badger - July 27, 2009
So Koyie Hill hit better than Milton Bradley today?
santoswoodenlegs - July 26, 2009
Yes .. but MB also drew 2 walks today
I’ve been impressed by his plate discipline .. no matter what anyone else says about him, I have admired MB’s argus eye and his ability to draw walks even if we’d rather see a long ball or a liner drilled into the corner. I am wanting to believe that MB has turned the corner and is going to be a real factor in the next THREE months .. yes, THREE ..
cubnational - July 26, 2009
what makes you think he turned the corner
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
well he isn't crying in the dugout after he strikes out
cubnational - July 26, 2009
fair enough
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
at least he gets on base a darn sight more than Soriano did .. until recently
cubnational - July 26, 2009
Watching Milton's AB's closely
It seems like pitchers are reluctant to throw anything across the plate to him. He’s taken like 18 walks in July alone – a lot of the balls he’s taking are waaaaay off the plate.
DKT - July 26, 2009
I've noticed this too
He has even been intentionally walked a few times, yet he is constantly behind fastballs. I think the scouting report on him is ‘wrong’ for the time being. Hope he can make a good adjustment before the league just starts throwing fastballs by him.
jeff_pico - July 26, 2009
But he seems to be hitting mistakes
Like outside fastballs, and giving him a little confidence might be bad for them. He was, after all, one of the best hitters last year. It’s hard for opposing teams to call fastballs on the inside half to him, I think. I, for one, wish they did.
cubbybear - July 26, 2009
He is suited...
for either hit 2nd or 6th. He might not hit for power anymore, but maybe he can transform what he is. The only issue I have with this is that the Cubs are paying him as a power hitter.
gaclaudy - July 26, 2009
He is an OBP machine
Reminds me a lot of Mark Grace in his approach. Pretty good eye, lots of doubles and singles, less power. There’s value to drawing walks, surely.
cubbybear - July 26, 2009
Can't find the article
but Bradley mentioned earlier that he/or the hitting coach realized that pitchers were still pitching to him as if he were hitting and that not realizing that was the cause of some of his earlier problems at the plate.
Villeslgr - July 26, 2009
yawn
is that the best you got?
CalCalender - July 26, 2009
Koyie Hill and Milton Bradley both helped the Cubs get in 1st place today.
That’s all that should matter.
ak123 - July 26, 2009
+ 1000 BCB points
Redeemable to December 31, 2025 at Wrigleyville Sports.
cubnational - July 26, 2009
+1 rec
and that might get you the BCB Snuggie you’ve been admiring.
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
Really?
I was going to purchase that with my 1000BCB points that are redeemable for a $25 Wrigleyville Sports giftcard.
ak123 - July 26, 2009
If only someone could post a funny picture about that
Wreckard - July 26, 2009
hahaha
rec’d
CalCalender - July 26, 2009
Hmm
Clutch16 - July 26, 2009
I had to stare at that for about five minutes before I got it.
Well played, sir.
Goodie1969 - July 26, 2009
I am up to
6 minutes…..still missing something
cozmotaylor123 - July 26, 2009
Bradley vs Hill
Bradley fighting vehicle vs a hill
Allie - July 26, 2009
I finally saw the ">" symbol to the right of the first pic
and then it clicked. Of course, you have to know the name of the military vehicle in the second pic.
Goodie1969 - July 26, 2009
got it now..thanks
much
cozmotaylor123 - July 26, 2009
WOW
dont feel bad – I worked on Bradley’s in the Army and I didnt get it either…
hansman1982 - July 26, 2009
Only today?
gaclaudy - July 26, 2009
Yeah
He also hit better than Pujols today too. I guess that mean’s he’s better than him?
McRipper - July 26, 2009
today....yes.
santoswoodenlegs - July 26, 2009
Felix Pie, too?
Today: 2/4 2B, BB, RBI – he’s turned the corner!
DGU - July 26, 2009
2 great weekends to be a Cubs fan in a row
By the way, you probably couldn’t see it from the bleachers but that out at home was a horrible but lucky call from the umpires.
And how about that .465 OBP for Bradley in July? With Soriano hitting, having Bradley bat in front of him is bringing benefits.
I’ll be nice with my comments towards him for a week :)
ak123 - July 26, 2009
I said in the pre-game thread that I considered this
a very important game, more than just a usual game in July. I said — this was a must win, considering the Reds were reeling and the Astros are streaking.
This, was a very, very good win. The daytime crap about Harden can vanish.
San Diego Smooth Jazz Man - July 26, 2009
Yes
The call at home was complete garbage…league needs to remind the ump where to stand when the batter is coming home…I am not sure if Hill even tagged the runner…that might have changed the game immensely…
hansman1982 - July 26, 2009
But with a black hole...
Behind Soriano, he might not get much to hit soon.
CubsBullsBears - July 26, 2009
Whole lineup is going to change when Soto returns
Because Bradley, Soriano and Soto would probably be 5, 6, 7 with Fontenot batting #8.
Unless Lou moves Bradley to #2.
I can’t believe Lou has so many good options right now! I’m so encourages as a fan for the first time in months.
ak123 - July 26, 2009
I'd like to see Bradley hitting #2...
… Fukudome has done a good job leading off, and he and Bradley could both set the table for Lee, Ramirez & Soriano.
Al Yellon - July 26, 2009
Perfect.
This, if everyone was doing as they are supposed to, could score a LOT of runs.
AndrewJStone - July 26, 2009
That's what I was thinking.
I just really really hope Lou does not decide to put Soriano in the leadoff when Soto returns.
ak123 - July 26, 2009
+1
Bradley is an OBP guy… perfect for a table setter role.
SackMan - July 27, 2009
Good sweep, now on to big series with the 'stros
BleedsbluinMI - July 26, 2009
Astros lost 2 of 3 to Mets
I’m shocked but very happy.
ak123 - July 26, 2009
having Ortiz and Moeller back to back isn't a path to winning a division.
jeff_pico - July 26, 2009
True
But have you seen these Mets lately?
I’m very happy they lost 2 of 3 since we’ll be playing a healthier Mets team in August and September.
ak123 - July 26, 2009
i think they'll keep playing like whipped dogs
cubnational - July 26, 2009
I would hope so
But Reyes, Beltran, and Delgado should be back I think. They’ll be more competitive to say the least.
ak123 - July 26, 2009
true, but I hope they'll be slow out of the block and don't get in form
until mid September .. admittedly, that’s a lot to ask with some monsters like that
cubnational - July 26, 2009
But looking on the bright side
They handled an almost identical team pretty well last year.
ak123 - July 26, 2009
We also were playing a bunch of back ups
IIRC that series was right after the Cubs clinched the division. Hoffpauir had a pretty big series too
Musicdude10 - July 26, 2009
Not at Wrigley
We played a short 2-game set but swept Mets in it.
Cedeno hit a grand slam.
But you are right about the games at Shea. I was pretty upset too because I wanted to see all the regulars play.
ak123 - July 26, 2009
Maybe...
Beltran is having another MRI this week and may need to have knee surgery. I think Reyes is close to coming back, however.
Born Again Cubs Fan - July 26, 2009
2 Sweeps in the last 2 series!!!
YAY! Let’s go Cubbies, time to turn up the heat.
slcathena - July 26, 2009
Actually
its two sweeps in the last three series. Still, its pretty darn good.
DTJchris - July 26, 2009
Haven't you guys learned anything...
Wins against the Nationals and the Reds don’t mean anything. The Cubs are supposed to beat teams like that. This season is over. This team is going nowhere. Start rebuilding now.
Born Again Cubs Fan - July 26, 2009
I guess
that is where you get your name from. A game is a game. Better to take 7 of 7 from teams like the Reda and the Nats, than going 4 out of 7. Agree?
wild bill - July 26, 2009
Sorry...
I should have indicated sarcasm. Just trying to pick up for the many people on here who were ready to pack up the season three weeks ago with the Cubs 3 games out of first and who are now shockingly quiet.
Born Again Cubs Fan - July 26, 2009
Hey I had
them dead at the start of the season. I still do not think this team is going very deep in the playoffs, if even they make it. But truth be told, they have been fun to watch the last couple weeks.
wild bill - July 26, 2009
Where did you have the Rays
at beginning of last season? The playoffs are a different beast – hopefully the Cubs wait until the last day of the season to clinch division and go into the post-season HOT HOT HOT…worked for the Rockies until they faced a team that had to slug out a game 7….
hansman1982 - July 26, 2009
Oh baby
I have had the Rays on top since they were known as the Devil Rays. Do you have a minute to talk about some real estate I have?
wild bill - July 27, 2009
Here ya go....
carmen_fanzone - July 26, 2009
It's amazing how some people just can't resist trying to pick a fight...
…even on a day like this when we should all just be enjoying the moment.
Grow up.
bluekoolaide - July 26, 2009
Priceless
sue369 - July 26, 2009
At the end of the year...
the commissioner’s office performs a strict regression formula on all team’s regular season final records based on the number of win they have against teams they we’re supposed to beat and the overall record is adjusted accordingly.
We are on pace to finish last.
santoswoodenlegs - July 26, 2009
D'oh
That was a typo on my part, I hadn’t forgotten the Phillies. Sorry about that.
slcathena - July 26, 2009
Apparently we CAN all "enjoy the ride"!
Way to go Cubbies!
Zeke - July 26, 2009
Self-gratuitous "linky" below...
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2009/4/21/847036/can-we-all-agree-to-just-enjoy-the
Zeke - July 26, 2009
AMEN to this comment. there are 162 games, just enjoy the ride
drodd - July 27, 2009
Had to listen to the Reds announcers
on the MLB package, Harriston was safe by a huge amount, but when things are going well you get the breaks.
Soriano is on fire, lets hope it continues.
Bradleys called 3rd was inside, I just wish he would be more agressive in those spots, almost looks like he is afraid to fail in those situations. Let it rip Milton.
I would of let Shark finish the game. Shark looks like he is confused and pissed off, just my take. Up and down from Iowa, changing mechanics etc..
Cubs playing solid baseball, lets get this Houston series, and stay on a roll.
Grockcubs - July 26, 2009
he wasn't safe by a huge amount
but he was probably safe.
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
Hill didn't even tag him....
carmen_fanzone - July 26, 2009
He was safe
By a huge amount
Worf - July 26, 2009
he was safe twice
santoswoodenlegs - July 26, 2009
oh hell Drew
Hill still has yet to tag him. I’ll gladly take the call, and I was jumping up and down cheering, but he was as safe as safe can be.
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
He was as safe as Holliday was out.
santoswoodenlegs - July 26, 2009
haha i was just thinking that:
what’s going to happen first? Holliday touching the plate or Hill tagging Encarnacion.
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
I was there, Holliday was totally out.
Colorado Cubbies Fan - July 26, 2009
that's our drew
umps are wrong when the call goes against the Cubs. umps aren’t wrong when the call goes for them.
Worf - July 26, 2009
excuse me?
I said he was safe! Holy crapoly. That’s our Worf, being a jerkoff at every opportunity.
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
Holy Crapoly???
Man, you can’t even swear right!
Worf - July 26, 2009
I said he was safe.
I thought Hill brought the tag around and tagged him after he’d crossed the plate. I think Hill thought he was set up in front of the plate, rather then on it.
He wasn’t safe by a huge amount. Dome’s throw nearly beat him there.
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
nearly??
it bounced 12 times….normally on that alone you don’t get the call
cozmotaylor123 - July 26, 2009
actually
the ball bounced twice, but nice try.
HardForharden - July 26, 2009
Dude...
a) he slid into home BEFORE Hill even turned around
b) Hill didn’t tag him
c) you’re getting worse
santoswoodenlegs - July 26, 2009
gotta agree with you on that one
If that same call went AGAINST the Cubs, this board would be in a frenzy. And rightfully so, might I add.
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
I'd have to check the replay...
….but I’m pretty sure he swiped his glove at Encarcion with the baseball in his other hand, too.
carmen_fanzone - July 26, 2009
He did
Only Encarnacion was already in the dugout, getting some Gatorade and exchanging fart jokes with Darren Baker
Worf - July 26, 2009
I went to Cubs.com and they don’t have the video. I call it like I remember it. It was a close play, and the ump got it wrong — which I’ve said from the start. You guys can angst about it all you want.
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
Here's the video of the questionable play at the plate
“Cubs catch a break”
flachimesa - July 26, 2009
like I said
close call, Dome’s throw nearly beat him there. We lucked out, the ump blew the call. But it wasn’t going to matter anyway.
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
I don't care whether he was really safe or not...
…I’m just happy that we’re starting to finally get some breaks and, even more importantly, we’re capitalizing on them.
bluekoolaide - July 26, 2009
The only thing Drew
is that the tying run was on second base. That was a HUGE call.
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
at the time
the tying run, true.
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
but yes,
Hill did do a good job of selling the call and being in a good position. And like i said, I’m very glad he was called out. :)
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
carmen_fanzone - July 27, 2009
Hey, you can prove anything with facts fella!
Zeke - July 27, 2009
What? The shadow of Koyie's glove is CLEARLY touching his leg.
daver - July 27, 2009
He was safe.
But, as Len pointed out — “that call would have gone against the Cubs a month ago.”
Breaks do even out.
San Diego Smooth Jazz Man - July 26, 2009
Agreed.
I watched the video — he was safe, and it wasn’t that close.
We’ll take every break we can get.
Al Yellon - July 26, 2009
Ya...
the replay from the boothish area was horribly safe…you would need to buy a bank vault to get more safe.
hansman1982 - July 26, 2009
Right now it is nice to have Milton and his high OBP...
in front of Sori cause Sori is hot at the moment…if Bradley could keep getting on base and Sori stays hot then our lineup is real dangerous
cubbiepride - July 26, 2009
Small correction
I’m fairly certain it was Encarnacion that Kosuke threw out at home, not Hairston Jr.
CubsFan87 - July 26, 2009
You're right.
It was Hairston who hit the ball.
Al Yellon - July 26, 2009
we were lucky on that call ..
and I’ll take all the luck we can get .. GO CUBS
cubnational - July 26, 2009
The only thing dissapointing about that call
Was that Dusty didn’t get thrown out. I would have enjoyed that.
ak123 - July 26, 2009
I'm
very surprised at that. As bad as the call was, Dusty should have gotten himself tossed. As a manager, I would have.
gwood - July 26, 2009
He was probably trying to
Worf - July 26, 2009
hes just too nice
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
I read his lips and
Dusty said “that is M F B S” and that didnt get him tossed
cozmotaylor123 - July 26, 2009
Sometimes umps will keep you in the game
if they know it’s their fault
Worf - July 26, 2009
milton's
called third to stifle that rally and that call at the plate cancel each other out
CubsFan87 - July 26, 2009
Not really
one guaranteed run versus a maybe run
Cubs outplayed the Reds though. Would have most likely won anyway
Worf - July 26, 2009
he got on because of a bad call and got out on a bad call
sounds fair enough to me
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
Wasn't it Branch Rickey who said: "Luck is the residue of design."
We’re owed about a hundred years of luck the way I see it…
Zeke - July 26, 2009
we make
our own luck. Hill set up in such a way that pushed the ump into the place he was at so he couldn’t see Encarnacion’s foot swipe the bag.
I don’t think it would have mattered anyway, really.
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
You're right
about Laz being in the worst possible position to make that call. I supposed he didn’t want to be immediately behind home in case the ba;ll got passed Hill.
gwood - July 26, 2009
Hill still hasnt tagged him
out….was not even close
cozmotaylor123 - July 26, 2009
Mid-season acquisitions
You could argue that our best mid-season acquisition is the on-target Rich Harden.
Which might give us pause to wonder whether or not we could get better mid-season acquisitions than the Fontenot we had last season, the Bradley TX had last season, etc….
DGU - July 26, 2009
man I hope Harden hangs in there .. hope he stays healthy
Hope Dempster gets better and watches his toes
Hope Soto comes back swinging a bat that connects
Hope Lilly’s shoulder gets better
Hope Lee’s disc calms down
Hope ARam keeps it coming .. man, what a machine
cubnational - July 26, 2009
If those things happen.
This team will be in the post season.
slcathena - July 26, 2009
Even an Aramis
playing at 85% is still the best hitter on our team. Really good to have him back!
gwood - July 26, 2009
TWSS
daver - July 27, 2009
Along the same lines...
The best mid season pickup was the return of Aramis Ramirez. No question.
kanderber - July 26, 2009
Definitely.
DGU - July 26, 2009
+
1
Colorado Cubbies Fan - July 26, 2009
In other baseball news
The Nationals just won their 30th game.
ak123 - July 26, 2009
Wow.
They have now won two series in one week.
Al Yellon - July 26, 2009
Im heading up to Milwaukee tomorrow with some friends to tailgate and...
hopefully watch the Nats keep Winning!
cubbiepride - July 26, 2009
i smell a WC chase
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
WC cheese?
Is he related to Chuckie Cheese?
Zeke - July 26, 2009
fail. read it again
WanderingWanderer - July 26, 2009
i think hes being sarcastic
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
(I was...)
Zeke - July 26, 2009
its not who you play....
its when you play them…..we got the Nationals as the right time it appears
cozmotaylor123 - July 26, 2009
The Nats are way better
than the AAA Padres. The record doesn’t reflect it, but the Nats can hit. The Padres cannot.
San Diego Smooth Jazz Man - July 26, 2009
didn't we get swept in SD by the AAA Padres?
that sucked.
jeff_pico - July 26, 2009
I said it earlier this week and I'll say it again.
Rich Harden is way to talented to be as bad as he’s been this year. Monster second half is coming.
cubswynn - July 26, 2009
yup, and you can say the same for Milton and Soriano....
…this could be the start of one hell of a run..
JB 23 - July 26, 2009
Actually I did say that about sori.
I thought the series going into the asb would be it.
cubswynn - July 26, 2009 via mobile
I also think that Sori is putting less pressure on himself now that ARam is back..
…and he isnt leading off. He was trying to do way to much….
JB 23 - July 26, 2009
I agree about ARam.
cubswynn - July 26, 2009
If all of you guys are correct....
… this team could go on a long winning streak.
Al Yellon - July 26, 2009
At least
he has been healthy this year…that is the main thing…
hansman1982 - July 26, 2009
Winning is nice
It’s hard for me not to wonder how many of those miserable June & July losses Aram could’ve helped us win.
Reddevil - July 26, 2009
We lost 16 games by 2 runs or less
If I had to guess maybe we would have won 3 of those if Aramis was in the lineup?
ak123 - July 26, 2009
so much water under the bridge
SO many games when the offense was completely dead…lets hope they can at least score a bit on the road now. The home offense has been better the last month or so.
jeff_pico - July 26, 2009
Took 5 of 7 on the road
I know it was a sweep with the Nationals but a 4 game sweep against any team on the road or even at home is hard to do.
ak123 - July 26, 2009
pitching matchups houston series
Mon: Zambrano vs Rodrguez
Tue: Dempster vs Oswald
Wed Wells vs Hampton
Thu Hart vs Ortiz
jeff_pico - July 26, 2009
That shapes up well.
Rodrgiuez has been awful at Wrigley Field for his career. No reason to think the Cubs can’t go 3-1 in that series.
Bill Potter - July 26, 2009
GO CUBS GO!!!
First place!! YAY!
KC in OK - July 26, 2009
Soriano hitting since Aramis is in the lineup
This hasn’t been discussed much, but maybe there was a correlation with Soriano being more relaxed with Aramis in the lineup?
I know, Soriano is being paid a lot so this shouldn’t be an excuse but the numbers are telling. He pretty much stopped hitting a week after Aramis went down.
ak123 - July 26, 2009
Soriano
It seems Soriano is cutting down on his swing a bit. Maybe this is coming from Von Joshua, but that at bat today where he went to the opposite field, he hardly ever does that.
jeff_pico - July 26, 2009
Well whatever it may be
Let’s hope it lasts!
ak123 - July 26, 2009
I noticed before
Sori was standing up a lot more than he is now. Maybe I’m wrong but he seems to be getting much lower.
cubswynn - July 26, 2009 via mobile
not really
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
It was awesome
to see Sori shorten his swing with two strikes and poke one out to right intentionally today!
gwood - July 26, 2009
that could make sense.
Sori, rami, and lee traditionally were the big hitters. Maybe sori felt he needed to make up for the loss of rami’s bat, and was trying to hard. I haven’t been able to watch any games in about 2 weeks so i don’t know if he’s been standing any different
CubsFanInWisconsin - July 26, 2009
I love the winning
but I want Uggla.
lexmarklover - July 26, 2009
Uggla
Is Soriano-ish
cubsluver22 - July 26, 2009
you're right
but he’s an rbi guy that lou is looking for … except right handed
lexmarklover - July 26, 2009
I've watched alot of Uggla
I like Uggla but he’s not a fit here. Poor defense at times and very very very hot/cold hitting.
cubsluver22 - July 26, 2009
i'm not knocking you but
why doesn’t he fit here?
lexmarklover - July 26, 2009
streaky with a bad glove?
why would he fit here?
Allie - July 26, 2009
he drives in a lot of runs
lexmarklover - July 26, 2009
yeah
and how many would his glove cost us in return?
our defense isn’t very good right now, why would you add another minus defender?
Allie - July 26, 2009
he would definitely not fit in here.
to fit in as a Cub, well to the fans at least, you have to be good at all times and never make any human mistakes….we have seen this as Bradley has been booed and hated much for really not that big of a reason.
HardForharden - July 26, 2009
Yep
Gotta love that .230 avg with 7 homers and 20+ rbi for our starting right fielder. Not to mention him always being on the bench!
cubsluver22 - July 26, 2009
I don't wanna start this whole debate
abouts stats etc but like I said I’ve watched Uggla alot. Don’t just judge him by his stat sheet, watch him play. He don’t have good range and he is just seems to put up those numbers at the wrong times to me. He’s another one of those team up by 5 in the 8th and he hits a 3 run homer but struck out his first 3 ab’s with runners on.
cubsluver22 - July 26, 2009
I only judge him by how he does in All Star Games...
carmen_fanzone - July 26, 2009
That's a little unfair
but he just isn’t a good fit in my opinion.
cubsluver22 - July 26, 2009
is uggla on the trade block?
that would be nice to have a guy like him at 2B as long as he doesnt have an ‘08 ASG performance. he doesnt seem to have a career year at teh plate either though. i’d bet his contract’s pretty big to though, but i dont know where to find that info
CubsFanInWisconsin - July 26, 2009
he's owned 5.35 mil this year
but he will be paid about 3.5 for the rest of the year. That doesn’t seem like a stretch.
lexmarklover - July 26, 2009
Want, want
want. It will not happen. Outside of a “shocker deal” the team you see on the field now is the team you will have the rest of the year.
wild bill - July 26, 2009
This just proved something to me today.
Just because a team is generally unlikable doesn’t mean they aren’t also good.
Goodie1969 - July 26, 2009
they get more likeable the more they win :)
Its the dead offense that makes them unlikeable. Fix that and they are likeable. At least for me.
jeff_pico - July 26, 2009
Winning cures a LOT of ills...
Zeke - July 26, 2009
Cancer?
DTJchris - July 26, 2009
Well...
…clubhouse cancer, maybe.
Goodie1969 - July 26, 2009
+1
CubsFanInWisconsin - July 26, 2009
Why is this team "unlikable"?
DGU - July 26, 2009
Dunno
but they were kinda unpleasant when losing.
Allie - July 26, 2009
It was more their fans
Or about 80% of the people on here :)
Not you though Allie!
ak123 - July 26, 2009
Oh I had my moments!
:-P
Allie - July 26, 2009
Well losing is unpleasant, at least.
DGU - July 26, 2009
hitting about 215 with runners in scoring position makes it hard to like a team
Hopefully they can regress to the mean.
jeff_pico - July 26, 2009
If they regress to the mean, that will make them likable?
DGU - July 26, 2009
YES!
This offense has been so far under its potential even if the players played to their average potential we win the division pretty easily.
jeff_pico - July 26, 2009
Short version...
…sleepy managing, hacky & undisciplined ABs, slapdash lineups held together with baling twine & chewing gum, frequently porous bullpen, off-and-on-field distractions, histrionics in the dugout, guys named Aaron, etc.
I’m not really singling out any players in particular (aside from the Aarons), as they’ve almost all had their moments, but I think a couple of weeks ago the general consensus was that this was not a particularly likable bunch.
Goodie1969 - July 26, 2009
The team has an extremely unlikeable lack of Derosas
Wreckard - July 26, 2009
See the
the Yankees.
wild bill - July 26, 2009
Cool little site to follow the Cubs playoff picture
http://www.coolstandings.com/baseball_team.asp?id=CHC
gaclaudy - July 26, 2009
the twelve at CO, LA, and SF worry me
other then that this schedule is very favorable
DC Cubbie - July 26, 2009
for some reason
everytime we play on the west coast i have a bad feeling
ndcubs - July 26, 2009
Wait we're playing SD again?
Don’t they usually only do 2 game sets if we play a team 3 times?
Well whatever, eventhough they swept us once, I’d rather play them than the Dodgers, Rockies or Giants 3 times.
ak123 - July 26, 2009
Will wins against them count?
santoswoodenlegs - July 26, 2009
First time in years, 2 visits to SD
Even the AAA Padres can win in Petco from time to time. I know, I’m always there when they do.
However, will they still have Gonzalez at 1Bby then?
San Diego Smooth Jazz Man - July 26, 2009
I'm sure we'll get a few wins there
They were on a hot 10 winning streak and we weren’t when we played them back then.
ak123 - July 26, 2009
That's a nice way of seeing things
Thanks for sharing.
chilango2 - July 26, 2009
I would love to see
What kind of post were made when we had an 8.2% chance of winning the division.
gaclaudy - July 26, 2009
I LOVED that site last season.
Even with the Cubs in first, I’m not sure I have the strength to go there right now.
daver - July 27, 2009
5 games in hand
Have all 5 games been rescheduled? If so, when will we be even in games played with St. Louis?
cubbiefanTN - July 26, 2009 via mobile
this is FUN again!
ndcubs - July 26, 2009
Glad to see things are pleasant around here
Was gone for 3 weeks with little Internet access, but did manage to make it to Washington for the four-game sweep and to Philly for, alas, the rear-end-kicking last Monday. This team ain’t looking too bad right now. Keep it up against the Astros; I’d be satisfied with a series split, but aim high.
Not Bruce Froemming - July 26, 2009
You'll be pleased to know
that the DeRomance has been nearly eradicated from this site in the last few weeks.
Goodie1969 - July 26, 2009
and we are no longer "derosaholics"
it’s amazing what good play can do. :)
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
it's amazing what not playing Aaron Miles at 2nd base can do.
santoswoodenlegs - July 26, 2009
i'm gonna faux rec'd that! :)
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
Rec'd
slcathena - July 26, 2009
I forgot Aaron Miles
still was on the team. That’s not a bad thing.
Not Bruce Froemming - July 26, 2009
he's getting the intentional 'no call' in Iowa
Can’t veteran players ask for their release in the minors? Forget how that works.
jeff_pico - July 26, 2009
Do you think he would ask for his release? Be still my heart.
willie mays hayes' gloves - July 26, 2009
You aim
high or you am high? Split with the Astros, you are high. Nothing less than 3 out 4.
wild bill - July 26, 2009
Winning a four-game series
isn’t easy against anybody. Win two and anything else is gravy.
Not Bruce Froemming - July 26, 2009
I respectively
disagree. At home, late July, they need 3 of 4 to just say, hey we are a team to deal with.
wild bill - July 26, 2009
Anyone going to be
in Florida next week for that series?
cozmotaylor123 - July 26, 2009
maybe today
will give hill some more confidence to get a hit once and awhile, it sure would be nice to have somewhat of a threat in the 8 hole
ndcubs - July 26, 2009
if our biggest problem can be the offense from
our 8 spot and backup catcher… that would be awesome.
Allie - July 26, 2009
true
a weak bat in the 8 spot can be easily hidden if our money guys keep hitting the way they are
ndcubs - July 26, 2009
I'm not sure his struggles have anything to do with confidence.
at this point, it might be exhaustion
WanderingWanderer - July 26, 2009
Just an observation...
Does anyone else think Joey Votto is going to be a premiere hitter in the National League? Or is he one already?
I mean, by 2010 or 2011 I think it will be:
1) Pujols
2) Hanley Ramirez
3) Joey Votto
cubfanwill - July 26, 2009
where does Sam Fuld fit in there?
nji232 - July 26, 2009
you misspelled derosa
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
I'd still put Bug Eyes ahead of him
but Votto is a VERY good hitter.
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
Good point...
I was having a good day until you made me think of that clown.
cubfanwill - July 26, 2009
haha yeah, my apologies
but if it makes you feel any better, he’s sitting in 4th place!
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
Is this sarcastic?
Or is it not?
DTJchris - July 26, 2009
he's good
But 3rd in the league good? Hmm have to wait and see. He had a series like Adrian Gonzalez had against us, a one man offense.
jeff_pico - July 26, 2009
eric hanna
ndcubs - July 26, 2009
One thing I can be certain
He can make that list as a “Cubbie Killer” we talked about a few weeks ago by 2011.
ak123 - July 26, 2009
Jake Fox...
Hit THREE balls to the warning track today. With a bit more of a wind, he very realistically could’ve had a 3 HR game. I really hope Lou tries to get him in the lineup more.
kanderber - July 26, 2009
I wish Lou would let Fox try and be the starting catcher
one time. just to give it a try
nji232 - July 26, 2009
uh
no
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
Thats what everybody thought about him playing third
He filled in fine. Catcher is his natural position. One start won’t kill anyone.
nji232 - July 26, 2009
very well said.
and I agree 100%
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
i don't care
what anyone says about Koyie Hill “calling” a good game…yes there are certain catchers that can “call” better games than others, but in the end it is more about the pitchers out there…when Fox filled in late in that Cardinals game, the announcers (yes it was Joe Morgan and someone else but still) even said that he looked extremely comfortable back there and that he was framing well…he was blocking balls well too.
HardForharden - July 26, 2009
Hill is an outstanding defensive catcher.
That said, he probably does need a break. Maybe one of the day games vs. Houston.
Al Yellon - July 26, 2009
... Fox could catch one of those, is what I meant to add.
Al Yellon - July 26, 2009
Just get himn in the g damn line up every day somehow.
I’m sick of listening to Lou say “we’ve gotta get his bat in the lineup,” and basically never pencil him in.
SackMan - July 27, 2009
what the hell is wrong with milton bradley?
the yahoo recap pointed out that while everyone else seemed happy that the team was finally playing well, bradley didn’t seem to be enjoying it, saying "Are we going to get more cheers now?" he asked reporters. "Are we going to start getting bashed … in articles about our lineup and was it better last year and all that garbage?"
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
this guy has serious serious problems
why not just enjoy the good day? why the chip on the shoulder?
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
well
I would be pissed too if the fans booed me every time I messed up and didn’t cheer everytime I did something good.
HardForharden - July 26, 2009
fine
but doesn’t he understand that he’s not doing anyone any good by bitching about things when the team is playing well? it doesn’t make him look like much of a team player.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
and
they DO cheer when he does stuff well. they cheer when runs are scored, when people get on base. they don’t NOT cheer when it’s bradley doing the scoring or getting on base.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
I think
I just get pissed over the fact that everyone has hated on Bradley this whole year…yes, we signed him to be a power lefty who drove in runs, but that was our mistake. He’s never really been a big power guy, last year he did he 20 HRs, but that is the first year he did that. His OBP has been pretty good, I think I am just pissed that everyone has been hating on Bradley, that is all.
HardForharden - July 26, 2009
listen
i cheer for bradley to do well. i love that he’s getting on base a lot lately. i just wish he would stay away from those comments because it doesn’t help his cause and i don’t think it helps the team.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
i agree
but the media sometimes blows things out of proportion and changes quotes around to make some players look bad…i think bradley is always gonna be this way though, because he has a strong personality.
HardForharden - July 26, 2009
people were cheering when he scored on fonzies double
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
lol
I’m sure they were cheering at the fact that Bradley scored, not at the fact that the Cubs drove in a run
HardForharden - July 26, 2009
well
wait, what?
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
I think it was sarcastic
As in Cubs fans were cheering for the run, not the fact that it was Bradley doing the scoring.
DTJchris - July 26, 2009
correct
it is hard to understand sarcasm on the internet unfortunately…haha.
HardForharden - July 26, 2009
but it's a team sport
they cheer for the TEAM. they cheer for runs scored and outs recorded. does he want them to specifically chant his name? how can you interpret whether they’re purposefully trying to exclude bradley from their cheering? that’s ridiculous.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
well
they are definitely puposefully booing him whenever he was doing bad, that’s for sure.
HardForharden - July 26, 2009
how do you know
they arent accidentally booing
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
ahhh
I just figured out they weren’t booing him…I guess they have been saying MILTTTTTTTTTTTTTT all year
HardForharden - July 26, 2009
its ok
ive been known on occasion to accidentally boo ;)
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
yes
of course they were. that’s what fans do. he needs to ignore it.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
hard to ignore
when 40,000 people are booing you everyday. lol…
HardForharden - July 26, 2009
He deserved the cheering
Scoring from first on the double, running hard and making a great slide to beat the tag. Glad he clogged up first base with that walk.
ChipSet - July 26, 2009
when bradley took his 2 walks
baker died a little on the inside
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
Milton the base clogger
jeff_pico - July 26, 2009
i actually think
baker was more angry at the fact edwin took a walk, rather than the fact he got jobbed at HP
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
Dumbass fans....
also booed Bradley when he struck out; despite the fact that he was having a great game. Hell, his hustle and slide on that first run should’ve at least given him a reprieve from booing at least for one game.
But of course Cub fans with chips on their shoulders and no class can’t help themselves. (As you can probably tell, it really peeved me.)
CubsWin!Oregon - July 26, 2009
i am with you on the treatment of bradley and soriano.
but i think the booing today was at the umpire on the bad call
MandMexpress12 - July 26, 2009
yeah
no question it was. and it was definitely a bad call.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
This...
They were booing the call. And the fans have the chips on their shoulders? The irony…
CubsBullsBears - July 26, 2009
That would be a pretty mild form of irony, if you were right.
Considering even if I was mistaken, it would be a pretty understandable mistake to make given the track record of fans and Bradley.
And that’s besides the fact that I would bet most observers had the same perception I do.
CubsWin!Oregon - July 26, 2009
You seem to have a bit of a skewed...
Perception about this Bradley thing. You chose to misinterpret Bradley’s own words in Sullivan’s article to put a positive spin on it, and you now refer to the fans as “dumbass” fans that were clearly booing the bad strike call.
CubsBullsBears - July 26, 2009
Wow...
I “chose to misinterpret” Bradley’s words? How charitable of you to assume that I’m dishonest and willfully lying.
My reply was to Unger’s initial post, which didn’t have a link attached. What’s more, the link he was referencing (the Yahoo one) doesn’t make ANY reference to Bradley talking about anything BUT the team. He doesn’t say anything about HIM being mistreated individually. Which is why your point wasn’t supported by that evidence. The Sullivan article (a source openly hostile to Bradley, btw) wasn’t brought up until after. I don’t appreciate you accusing me of dishonesty.
As for your second snarky remark, my entire point was that it was NOT clear that the fans were booing the call (and in fact were booing Bradley). Your merely restating that fans “were clearly booing the bad strike” is not an argument; it’s simply akin to saying “No, you’re wrong. I’m right.” That kind of incisiveness isn’t going to win you many debate trophies.
CubsWin!Oregon - July 26, 2009
Openly hostile?
Direct quotes tend to be… well just that, directly from the player’s mouth. You also stated your opinion that “dumbass” fans booing Bradley as fact, don’t play this high and mighty B.S. with me.
CubsBullsBears - July 27, 2009
I wasn't at the game...
but in watching it on tv, it in no way looked to me like they were booing the call. I grant you it’s possible, of course. But I’m skeptical.
CubsWin!Oregon - July 26, 2009
Can you please link to that story?
chilango2 - July 26, 2009
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap;ylt=AtdOSdpglA1cg.Wp8Nd1c45nYcB?gid=290726116&prov=ap
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
Thank you
chilango2 - July 26, 2009
Completely unreasonable
Sure. I see nothing horrible here.
Allie - July 26, 2009
sullivan has the more extended quote
in his game recap. and in his quote, bradley says “am I going to get more cheers now” among other things.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
which is interesting
actually, and if sullivan is the one that got the quote wrong, THAT would be an example of unfair treatment towards milton bradley – changing a quote to make someone look bad.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
It does make you wonder.
It seems apparent both sources are relaying the same quote, but they have a different pronoun listed.
I’m curious to know which one is correct…
CubsWin!Oregon - July 26, 2009
I'm so tired of it all at this point.
I really like Bradley, and quite honestly, he does bring some of this on himself. But I was at a game vs Milwaukee when he was booed at nearly every at bat even though he went 2 for 3 with 2 walks and an RBI…. and we were at Miller Park!!
I’m just tired, that’s all… so very tired.
Blue W - July 26, 2009
Me too.
I feel the exact same way. I long for the aura of positive feelings surrounding the team ala last year.
I’m tired of martyr complexes and I’m tired of people booing.
Oh well…
CubsWin!Oregon - July 26, 2009
Well said - both storylines are moldy
Shanghai Badger - July 27, 2009
I disagree
I have been on Bradley’s case all year, but today he played very hard and looked fired up all day long. I don’t care if he doesn’t get along that well with the media, I just want him to be a good clubhouse guy, to give 100% on the field, and to perform while doing so.
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
how do you think it plays in the clubhouse
when he’s sitting there whining after a big win?
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
I don't consider that whining.
Whining is complaining about being pulled late for a defensive replacement, that sort of thing. I didn’t hear a peep out of Bradley when he was out of the lineup working on his swing with Lou. I think MB is a team player, and that was never questioned (at least by me).
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
one quote
and he’s whining, eh?
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
one quote?
this isn’t the first time he’s complained about fans/media this year.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
Lay off the Bradley bashing, huh?
He’s finally starting to play some good ball and he’s helping the team. Personality-wise, he is who he is. He’s not going to change and, since it’s in all of our best interests as Cub fans to want the best out of him, why do so many people have to jump on anything he says and try to turn it into a controversy? It doesn’t do him or, more importantly, the Cubs, any good.
I can be as big of a critic as anybody but, on a day like this, I also know how to enjoy the moment.
bluekoolaide - July 26, 2009
exactly!
enjoy the moment! why is he complaining and being negative after a great win? that’s not a good sign.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
And why can't you just let it go?
You’re as bad as you claim he is.
I honestly couldn’t care less what he says as long as he plays hard and the Cubs win.
bluekoolaide - July 26, 2009
does he always play hard?
he seems to have a hard time backing up his infielders………….that’s either laziness or stupidity.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
Okay, whatever
Enjoy wallowing in the negative.
I feel too good tonight to waste time with this kind of stuff.
bluekoolaide - July 26, 2009
i feel good too
and i was enjoying reading everything i could get my hands on about today’s win. but that bothered me. you probably actually are right – i should try to just ignore it. i just can’t help but feel that it’s not a good sign. we’ll see.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
are you kidding???
Did you see him run into the bullpen today chasing a fly ball? Holy cow…
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
that's what you're supposed to do
every single play. try your hardest. every play. the fact that he did that today doesn’t erase the fact that he doesn’t always do it. and that’s problematic.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
"problematic",
“lazy”, “stupid”, “idiot.”
Yes, I can’t imagine why Milton Bradley would feel that the fans are ragging on him.
o.0
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
you think he reads this?
if he does, he should stop.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
I don't know what he reads
but I do know that you sound like a lot of other hyper-critical people who talk about Milton Bradley without knowing a lot about him.
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
what does knowing about him have to do with this?
i know what i see, and what i read. and that’s how i judge professional athletes. that’s how everyone judges professional athletes. he might be the best guy on the planet when he takes off the uniform and goes home to his family. i don’t know.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
well
the only team i see that tries hard on every play is the Cardinals…yea, you are supposed to do that, but a lot of players just ignore the actual hard work part of the game…it’s not only bradley, i think singling him out is unfair.
HardForharden - July 26, 2009
i agree that a lot of players don't hustle every play
i didn’t single him out – someone else mentioned the fact that he hustles all the time or something to that effect. i merely pointed out that this is most certainly not the case.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
though
it’s always important. and my favorite players are the ones that do.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
oh god
you liked ryan freel?!!!?!?!?!! lol
HardForharden - July 26, 2009
i think it's especially important
to make sure you’re hustling every play, focusing and doing all the little things when you’re not producing the way you’re capable of.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
My new stance on Bradley
I don’t care what he says to the media as long as he can keep atleast a .400+ OBP. I won’t bash him on here if he can do that.
ak123 - July 26, 2009
no kidding....just hit and give 110% everyday and you can say whatevery you want....
JB 23 - July 26, 2009
Agreed.
I liked what Bradley did today. If he can continue like this, we’ll all be very happy.
Al Yellon - July 26, 2009
yeah
today was a positive step, but overall he still seems to have a really hard time catching up with halfway decent fastballs when hitting from the left side. walks are fantastic – don’t get me wrong – i just hope he can add some consistent hitting to that, from the left side.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
it's the faint praise
that I love so much. Backhanded compliments.
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
do you disagree with what i said?
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
oh for Pere's sake
He had a good game. It doesn’t erase 90+ games of sub par play. He still has some improving to do, it’s not out of line to point that out
WanderingWanderer - July 26, 2009
I agree...
He’s having a tough time keeping up with mediocre fastballs from the left side. The patience and walks were great today, but he’s looks overmatched when pitchers throw him any kind of heat for strikes.
CubsBullsBears - July 26, 2009
He's sticking up for the team.
He’s not complaining about treatment of him in the quote. He’s saying it’s garbage that the whole team is getting criticized ad naseum in the media. I have no problem with him sticking up for the team; that’s what a team player does.
CubsWin!Oregon - July 26, 2009
eh
actually, in the full quote, he specifically questions whether fans will start cheering for HIM more now. he very much is complaining about what he perceives to be mistreatment of HIM in the media. sullivan in the trib gives the full quote.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
+1
CubsBullsBears - July 26, 2009
Garbage?
This team had every right to be criticized for their pre-ASB performance; he should be a target for a lot of that criticism because of his performance. And he was not just sticking up for his team, he was playing the “poor me” victim role… again. A direct quote from that article was, “Am I going to get more cheers now?” Again, making this about him… again.
If you read that article further, Koyie Hill handles it like a team guy. He goes on to say that this diversity builds character, and that they’re proud of where they are.
CubsBullsBears - July 26, 2009
exactly
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
I guess that would depend on what you think is constructive criticism...
I assume you agree that it’s at least in theory possible that the media and the fans can display their disapproval in ways that are both unfair and counter-productive?
You may not think that’s applicable in this case, but I do. I also think that Bradley has been treated very shoddily by a lot of fans and media alike.
CubsWin!Oregon - July 26, 2009
Bradley deserves what he gets...
And today’s bizarre statements by him prove it. There has been nothing unfair about criticism this team has received. With the payroll and veterans on this team, to be playing .500 pre-ASB was an immense failure. Granted, we’ve hopefully turned a corner, but every underachieving team receives its fair share of criticism from fans and media alike.
CubsBullsBears - July 26, 2009
This is a classic case of the disconnect between players and fan when it
comes to supporting a team during the course of a long baseball season. The players know that with baseball, you have to be patient and let the game come to you, you can’t chase it. Fans are almost always impatient and want immediate results. Most of the members of this blog are like many of the Cub fans, they get impatient when the team is not doing well and immediately assume the current state will continue.
What we have to realize is that not all players react to fan and media behavior the same. Many players realize that the fans are fickle and that responding to their behavior is a waste of effort. Guys like Milton are much more emotional when it comes to criticism. They react when their play is criticized and don’t understand why people aren’t more patient and won’t allow palyers to regain their form.
Look at the situation with DLee. His performance at the start of the season created a storm of reation from fans and media alike. There were constant calls for him to be traded, benched or just dropped of the face of the earth. But if there is anything we should know by now, it’s that baseball is a game of petience. 162 games is a long season. There are highs and lows that must be weathered and knee-jerk reactions to individual events is a futile exercise.
The lesson I have learned is that there are very few experts among us. Those of us who have called for the Cubs to give up on this season and have crowned the Cardinals as champs don’t seem to solid now. The Cubs may fade into oblivion in the next few weeks and the Cardinals may walk away with the division, but at least a few of us may think a bit before we predict the demise of our boys in blue. But the again, this is BCB and I guess I really wouldn’t expect anything less from our gang.
willie mays hayes' gloves - July 27, 2009
Lee...
Received his fair share of criticism and booing during his slump, yet he kept his mouth shut and just got better. Bradley on the other hand, chooses to keep playing the “victim” with the media and fans alike.
CubsBullsBears - July 27, 2009
here's the link
to the sullivan article with the extended version of the truly bizarre quote: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-27-cubs-reds-chicago-jul27,0,2465368.story
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
I saw the interview on Comcast and
he seemed to be ok…said team in 1st,,can’t find a negative in that…
cozmotaylor123 - July 26, 2009
i think that he was directing it more
at the media than at us. hopefully
ndcubs - July 26, 2009
still and all
he’s an idiot – the media is supposed to criticize when highly paid players under-perform. he just needs to ignore it. he needs to keep his mouth closed.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
that comment
doesn’t jibe with your above:
i cheer for bradley to do well. i love that he’s getting on base a lot lately.
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
why not?
i cheered for dennis rodman when he got a tough rebound for the bulls. and he’s an idiot.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
"he needs to keep his mouth closed"
I don’t think he seeks out the media to talk, it’s the other way around. I really don’t think he likes the media. My whole argument, though, is that if his teammates love him and he plays hard for us, why the hell would we care about that?
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
the teammates love him?
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
i seem to recall
him specifically pointing out that he felt isolated and disconnected from most of the team.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
hell, when i changed schools in the 9th grade
I felt disconnected and isolated for a while, too. Once you get to know people, things change. That’s human nature, nothing specific to Bradley.
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
yeah
but that was in june. he’d been with them since february. that’s not normal.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
well, in my humble opinion
he looked to be having a lot of fun out there today. And quite honestly, that’s the first time I’ve really seen that from him this year. So let’s enjoy being in first and not worry about if Milton Bradley has an attitude. It really doesn’t affect us at all, especially if he continues to play like this.
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
i sort of agree with you
but i do like to see the team enjoying the season. it adds to my enjoyment. and when a player sits there and is STILL complaining after playing well and winning, it bothers me a little. that’s all.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
I can certainly understand that.
I’m just a little leary of some reporters, that’s all. I did read the article that you linked to, but I kind of take that sort of thing with a grain of salt. I was much more concerned about the blowup with Lou at the Cell, but that seemed to turn his season (and attitude) around.
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
and you
are able to determine what is and isn’t normal for other people?
He’s always been a good defender for us. His bat is improving. He doesn’t trust the media, and (IMO) rightfully so.
If what you want Milton Bradley to do is anything YOU WANT him to, well, you’re going to be disapointed.
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
yes
and i AM disappointed that he seems to let his own insecurities overshadow the success of the team.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
and
he hasn’t been a “good” defender for us. he’s average at best.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
actually, I'm wrong
he hasn’t been a plus defender for us. But career, he’s a plus defender. You cannot deny he’s made some amazing plays however.
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
of course he has
and that’s great, and i cheer when that happens.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
i wouldn't trust the media either
and because of that, i’d be extra careful about what i said.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
Ever seen the movie "61*"
If no, watch it and tell me the media can’t be assholes to a good player, and twist every little thing he says/does into something negative and bad
bilbosbuttons - July 26, 2009 via mobile
look it up
his teammates (past and present) have nothing but good things to say about the guy.
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
Steve Stone told me that's a lie
chilango2 - July 26, 2009
thank you for making my case. haha
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
i agree about being quiet to the media thing
this article hits the nail on the head
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/220173-a-fans-request-of-milton-bradley-shut-up
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
yeah, i agree with that article
let your play speak for you. and don’t bring up old baggage after a good day when your team just moved into first.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
oh
now they want him to shut up? Because when he wasn’t talking to the media, they didn’t like it then.
You can’t have it both ways.
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
that was written by a cubs fan, not a journalist
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
the same sentiment
was written by cubs fans on this blog. There were complaints about him not talking to the media.
Besides, that guy is a journalist of some kind. Average people don’t put “senior writer” after their names.
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
"Senior Writer" on Bleacherreport...
….means about the same as “Senior in High School”. I think it’s strictly for longevity and number of articles, and I could name 20 people on BCB that could write a better article than those hacks on that site.
carmen_fanzone - July 26, 2009
He's right.
Bleacher Report is mostly high school kids. “Senior Writer” means nothing there.
Al Yellon - July 26, 2009
nevertheless
they’re suggesting that they’re journalists, covering sports.
drewishdrewid - July 27, 2009
Well, if that's all it takes then...
carmen_fanzone - July 27, 2009
+100
daver - July 27, 2009
why can't he just do what other players do
and answer questions and talk about the game without making controversial comments. and yes, i consider his comments today, in the context of of having just gotten a key win, to be controversial.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
then I suggest
you check a dictionary.
Once again. You don’t know if that’s all he said. You only know that he said that. You don’t even know how the writer has chopped it up.
Why don’t you just not care? If his performance off the field is irrelevant, then why do you care?
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
ok, i'll check a dictionary
definition of controversial: Of, producing, or marked by controversy
definition of controversy: Controversy is a state of prolonged public dispute or debate usually concerning a matter of opinion.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
the only reason there's
prolonged public dispute is you.
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
good point
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
although
paul sullivan seemed pretty perplexed by it to and made it somewhat of a focus of his recap today.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
sullivan?
shocking.
why can’t chicago have 1 single competent sportswriter?
Allie - July 26, 2009
i have voiced no opinion
as to the competence of paul sullivan – i’m merely pointing out that i’m not the only one for whom bradley’s words struck a chord.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
Because he is an individual with his own opinions. The players are not
some homogenous group that react the same way to every situation. These are people, not robots. If you expect everyone to toe the line and behave the way you want them to, you are going to be disappointed quite a bit. I suspect that the players have a lot less of a problem with whet he says than you do. The players will respect the effort that guy shos on the field. They want to know that a teamate will work hard to try to win. The stuff with the media is just as he described it, garbage.
willie mays hayes' gloves - July 27, 2009
Unfortunately
He wanted to be quiet but was made to talk to the Media.
Villeslgr - July 26, 2009
i don't know
i just think worrying about what the media is saying doesn’t help – remember 2004? just ignore it and prove yourself on the field.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
and I'm sure he'd rather it be that way as well
but I guarantee you the reporters will be around his locker after the game tomorrow night.
ambrosiadreams - July 26, 2009
that's fine
but does he have to make negative comments after a win to them?
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
of course they seek him out
but is he incapable of controlling what comes out of his mouth? he just might be. and that can be problematic.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
Not for reporters
The writers salivate over guys like that-it beats actually having to come up with things of substance to write about.
bluekoolaide - July 26, 2009
and do you think
that that’s the ONLY thing he said?
You do realize that they choose what quotes actually make it into the paper, right?
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
yes
i realize that. he should too.
John T. Unger - July 26, 2009
Good point.
kanderber - July 26, 2009
but when he stopped talking to the journalists
everyone flipped.
drewishdrewid - July 26, 2009
No one is suggesting that he stop talking to them...
But rather, that he stop saying stupid shit like this (especially immediately after they move into first place)
kanderber - July 26, 2009
Agreed...
His comments are being mocked on ESPN now. Why take the attention off the positive play of the team lately, and put it on himself?
CubsBullsBears - July 26, 2009
I can agree with your second sentence there in principle...
(Though I’ve already noted I don’t think it applies here.) But I’m not sure how the fact that ESPN is commenting on it should be seen as dispositive about anything…They’re as tabloid as anyone.
CubsWin!Oregon - July 26, 2009
Totally agree...
However, it’s just more negative attention for Bradley that could’ve been easily avoided by not making those odd comments.
CubsBullsBears - July 26, 2009
Funny
Here the Cubs get into first and over half of the freaking comments are about Bradley and his comments after the game.
This is Milton, this is what he has been his whole career, nothing changes. Average player, that gets to much ink, whether it is fair or not, but this is what it is, this will never change
Grockcubs - July 26, 2009
It's because we're all mean and don't give him a fair chance.
santoswoodenlegs - July 26, 2009
its all our fault
hes holding out on us because we hurt his feelings
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
Pretty much
There’s two sides to “just keep your mouth shut”, the people who cover the Cubs don’t seem to acknowledge that.
stringerbel - July 26, 2009
Where's Blue Mike?
So quick to post after losses…nowhere to be found now.
San Diego Smooth Jazz Man - July 26, 2009
Its his usual MO
Only the losses prove his talking points.
jeff_pico - July 26, 2009
I think
he was posting as John T. Unger
CyberCyclist - July 27, 2009
First Place
For the cubs could be a pressure cooker for this team…
Are we going to get cooking or get cooked? I don’t know, but the team’s gaining confidence and they have the division in their sights now. It just might be a memorable battle between the Cards and the Cubs, even though I’d appreciate the runaway division lead, it doesn’t look like that will happen.
cubbybear - July 26, 2009
I think
I don’t want to get too far ahead of myself, but it looks as if the Cubs and Cards both have a pretty good change of making the playoffs…right now the Cards are only 2 and a half out of the WC. There is no doubt in my mind that the Giants probably won’t make it, just because they have great pitching but crappy hitting. The Rockies have been hot, but really they only have 1 or 2 good starters, and their offense has been pretty streaky.
But yes I agree, let’s cook.
HardForharden - July 26, 2009
most of this team has been the division leaders the last 2 years.
They’ve had no problem performing well in the pennant race the last 2 years. Its only the playoffs when things have turned ugly.
jeff_pico - July 26, 2009
This team thought it was supposed to be in first all year
I would guess that finally getting there would actually be a relief, and we’ll hopefully see a relaxed time catch fire and build a nice cushion of a lead
TC Cubby - July 26, 2009
This is a very positive day
lot of season left, but it is really great to see them playing some good ball more consistently.
However, it is going to see what, if anything, Jim Hendry will be able to do to improve the team. If Fontenot cannot pull it together offensively, he will be sent back to Iowa, and perhaps the pitching staff will expand?
Samardjia needs more AAA time as well. I would have to imagine that with Lilly out, as many speculate, perhaps a LHRP or starter is on the horizon? One thing for sure: no new salary loads on the payroll.
The E-Man - July 26, 2009
Fontenot...
Shows flashes, but he’s just not an everyday player. He could be useful in the role he filled last year, but he’s been exposed in this role.
CubsBullsBears - July 26, 2009
Mark Teahan
lexmarklover - July 26, 2009
teahen would be great
but it probably wont happen
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
Do want
CubsBullsBears - July 26, 2009
Second base
To me, this is the Cubs most glaring need. I hope Hendry gets somebody who can play second base at the major league level. Fontenot isn’t a major league caliber second baseman.
cubsbak - July 26, 2009
We had one...
CubsBullsBears - July 26, 2009
but now hes on the DL with a bad elbow
damn
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
Well played
CubsBullsBears - July 26, 2009
Since when does Cotts play second?
Allie - July 26, 2009
agree, the only place we can realistically upgrade this offense is at 2nd
get er done Jim
DC Cubbie - July 26, 2009
Some more rumors
some that we know, some that we don’t
Balla Shot Calla
lexmarklover - July 26, 2009
I love to get Arthur Rhodes...
carmen_fanzone - July 26, 2009
will Cincy trade
within the division?
drewishdrewid - July 27, 2009
No idea...
…just going by the list on the article…
carmen_fanzone - July 27, 2009
WGN Radio. Great job today!!
Stuck in the garage repairing the rider today. From the Lou interview with Ron to the Z interview (dog poop and his wife dressing the dog). From the first pitch to the seventh inning which I usually skip. A wonderful game. A wonderful finish. Everyone was ON today. Great day to be a Cubs fan. PS. Did Hill actually get to bat right handed today?
truelinkfence - July 26, 2009
i think he did
hit the double right handed. i guess koyies parents need to be at the game more often
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
Thank You
truelinkfence - July 26, 2009
Interesting rumors out there. I love this time of year
Washburn to the Brewers
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/david-kaplan-chicago-sports/2009/07/can-it-be-are-the-tigers-after-milton-bradley.html
louslovechild - July 26, 2009
OH DEAR GOD
WRONG ONE! I SWEAR TO GOD!!!
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/07/macha-hints-at-potential-trade.html
louslovechild - July 26, 2009
Why cant we edit?
louslovechild - July 26, 2009
That's what the preview button is for.
Al Yellon - July 27, 2009
Brewers and Cardinals are seriously jeopordizing their future
But hey, if it makes winning the division easier next year then what the hell.
The fact is, if the Cubs are healthy and the players are hitting to their potential there just isn’t a possible trade out there that can make the Cardinals, Brewers or Astros better than them.
ak123 - July 26, 2009
This is 100% correct
but we still haven’t seen the full potential yet.
nji232 - July 26, 2009
if the Brewers can do is Washburn
then I feel good with what we got. The guy is pitching above his head the first half
DC Cubbie - July 26, 2009
"if the best the Brewers can do.."
DC Cubbie - July 26, 2009
yep.
Washburn is going to miss his Seattle outfield defense catching every fly ball in sight.
cubsforever - July 27, 2009
$20 says
that MB is here until the off season…
hansman1982 - July 26, 2009
$20 says
Kenny Lofton get’s traded too…
digitalbenjamin - July 26, 2009
1 pitcher doesnt make the rest of the staff not suck
unless that person is cc sabathia
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
Then...
in that case one pitcher is the staff…
hansman1982 - July 26, 2009
touche
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
Watching MLB network
They are talking about Dodgers picking up Cliff Lee and Victor Martinez. That would be very interesting
louslovechild - July 26, 2009
Rumor on the table: Looney, Kershaw or Billingsley, and prospects for Lee and Martinez
flachimesa - July 26, 2009
wow
thats taking 3 of their main players from the team and replacing them with 2 good players from another team. Seems like a case of ‘if it aint broke don’t fix it’. I’d do it if I was Clevleland. Loney isn’t much but Kershaw and Billingsley are great.
jeff_pico - July 26, 2009
Forgot link to rumor
FoxSports
flachimesa - July 26, 2009
But, but this season
was over a month ago. This team was going no where and those of us who had any faith at all were delusional. So you guys want to jump back on the wagon?
Rich was fantastic today and I hope he continues pitching this well. MB had a great game and it was fun to see him show the emotion he did. Let’s keep this going Cubs!!!
sue369 - July 26, 2009
heh.
Rec’d.
slcathena - July 27, 2009
Ditto.
AndrewJStone - July 27, 2009
It's not worth my creating a FanShot for it...
Especially because I don’t want to belabor too much the discussion of Milton Bradley’s post game remarks, when we’re better served on being positive about the Cub’s first place position.
But “John T. Unger” alludes above to an interesting discrepancy on what Bradley said. I’m rementioning it since it was at the end of a reply-chain, but seems worth noting.
In the AP account, Milton says:
In Paul Sullivan’s account however, he states that Milton said:
It strikes me that that’s a significant difference. In the AP account, Bradley is standing up for the team against (ostensibly) unfair coverage. In Sullivan’s account, he goes to lengths to suggest that Milton is once again locked in again as a “woe is me” martyr complex/selfish jerk. (Which clearly Sullivan thinks is the his modus operandi)
In the end, I do agree that I’d prefer that Milton just avoid the appearance of being angry and resentful about the media, even if he’s standing up for the TEAM. But that said, there are worse things than sticking up for your team. Like focusing on perceived injustices to yourself, instead of reveling in your teams success. The discrepancy makes one wonder which path Milton took?
Anyway…
CubsWin!Oregon - July 26, 2009
There actually is a fanshot about this...
maybe put it there?
Allie - July 26, 2009
Oh really?
Sorry everyone. I hadn’t left this thread since I was typing. Didn’t realize.
CubsWin!Oregon - July 26, 2009
i still think
he should just shut up to avoid the media changing what he said
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
Yeah....
I think that makes sense from a practical standpoint. It would be more expedient anyway (assuming he can figure out a way to get around the “You never talk to the media” criticism).
It’s just pathetic though that he would have to, if it really was the case that they were constantly mis-quoting. (Which I don’t actually think it always the case fwiw).
CubsWin!Oregon - July 26, 2009
misquoting is not the only problem
bradley has said several things before the season began and did the exact opposite
jesus christos - July 26, 2009
Never say never
Baseball is such a long season, and things can turn around in a hurry. Especially when they started the second half only 3.5 back of the Cards while playing awful ball. Hopefully now, the Cubs starting rotation and Soto get healthy soon.
propheteer - July 26, 2009
First place! Friggin awesome!
2-13 with RISP today… not so great. Just sayin.
SackMan - July 27, 2009
and sackman, right on cue
jesus christos - July 27, 2009
Of course. You
knew it was coming.
sue369 - July 27, 2009
Harden
stepping up the past few starts is even bigger now that Lilly will be lost for a few weeks. Let’s keep it rolling against the Astros, will be there Tuesday, can’t wait.
slocs55 - July 27, 2009
Harden
Agree with you sloc55. Not only was Harden’s performance yesterday huge because of the fact Lilly will be lost for a few weeks, but we are entering into a tough Astros series were the Cubs will have to face the top of the ‘Stros staff. Know the match-ups are good pitching wise this weekend for th Cubs, but it’s great to see the Cubs, and Harden, complete the sweep of the Reds and keep up the momentum heading into this series.
Tangled Up In Blue - July 27, 2009
Goofy poem
There are places that are bad
there are places that are worse
but the Cubs are in a terrific place
that wonderful place called first.
puckishcubsfan - July 27, 2009
I knew there were good reasons I don't like reading poetry...
‘A’ for effort though…
Zeke - July 27, 2009
There are habits that are bad
There are habits that are worse
The habit Geovany Soto has
Nearly caused his pants to burst
Goodie1969 - July 27, 2009
I thought of a nickname for Harden over the weekend but it's kinda PG-13.
daver - July 27, 2009
You haven't seen worse on this blog?
Shanghai Badger - July 27, 2009
OK, here it is: Raging.
daver - July 28, 2009
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