For those of you who want to discuss today's Cubs trade with the Pirates, go to this post just below this recap.
For the rest of you, a bit of discussion of today's 12-3 Cubs blowout of the Astros, which concluded a 6-1 homestand, would be a nice ending to this afternoon.
Ryan Theriot and Kosuke Fukudome were two of the biggest hitting heroes today -- Theriot drove in four runs with a double, sac fly and groundout, and Fukudome singled, doubled and tripled, also knocking in four runs. There was plenty of longball power to go around, too -- Jake Fox and Milton Bradley went back-to-back in the Cubs' five-run third inning; Bradley's batting average pushed over the .250 mark for the first time this season and he also made a couple of nice catches of Astros fly balls with his back against the ivy.
All told the Cubs pounded out 13 hits and drew six walks against an Astros pitching staff that has allowed ten or more runs ten times this season -- and two days in a row to the Cubs. It's gotten so bad for Houston that they released today's starting pitcher, Russ Ortiz, following his horrendous performance in which he allowed nine hits, three walks and nine earned runs in 2.1 innings; Ortiz took 68 pitches to record seven outs.
Kevin Hart didn't have his best stuff today -- though he issued only two walks, he also hit two batters and barely survived a shaky second inning in which the Astros took a 1-0 lead and had the bases loaded with one out. Hart got Ortiz, in what very well may be his final major league at-bat, to hit into an inning-ending double play, and then the Cubs opened up on Ortiz in the bottom of the second. Even Hart's at-bat in that inning, in which he hit with the bases loaded after Koyie Hill was intentionally passed, nearly produced a couple of runs; Hart lined a rocket that Kaz Matsui snared just before it landed in right field for a hit. Hart did smack a single to right field in the five-run third.

So thanks, Kevin, and good luck in Pittsburgh, where you're likely going to be the #3 starter behind Zach Duke and Paul Maholm -- that is, if Duke isn't traded before tomorrow's deadline; there have been plenty of rumors about that happening. What must it be like to be a Pirates fan right now? They've traded virtually every recognizable name on the team; the only starting players left from Opening Day are Ryan Doumit (who spent a lot of the year on the DL), Andy LaRoche and Brandon Moss. Ronny Cedeno, who is hitting .167 with a .213 OBA, is their starting shortstop.
The Cubs have done what they needed to do in this homestand -- beat up on inferior teams. Though the Astros came in with an over-.500 record, they are clearly not very good, especially with Lance Berkman out; today's blowout gives them a -48 run differential, which is pretty bad for a team that had pretensions of diving back into the NL Central race until this series. Despite Milwaukee's 7-3 win over Washington today, I don't see the Brewers as serious contenders, either. (Not to mention that splitting a four-game series with the worst team in baseball in your home park isn't a way of screaming "contender", either.) There seems to be something missing from that club (in addition to a horrendous pitching staff); in my opinion the NL Central is now a two-team race.
Today's announced crowd of 41,524 was the second-largest paid crowd of the season, just short of yesterday's 41,538, the largest. It does seem odd that the two biggest crowds of the year would be on weekday afternoons vs. Houston, but the likely explanation is that those games would not have a lot of requests from players & team employees for freebies, so those tickets go on general sale. There were long lines at the day-of-game ticket windows on Waveland today even after game time, likely explaining the high paid attendance. There were some empty seats, likely reflecting the forecast of rain, and when a light rainshower hit the park in the bottom of the 8th inning, Wrigley Field emptied out faster than that "cheap brand" ketchup in that Heinz commercial from years ago.
It won't get any easier when the Cubs visit Florida this weekend; the Marlins have a good pitching staff and they are only two games off the wild-card lead. Take two of three down there and then we're really talking about a run that could be sustained for some time. The Cubs' 11-3 record since the All-Star break is the best in the NL (1/2 game better than the Phillies, pending their game vs. the Giants tonight). Onward -- things are looking up!
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First?
markleonette - July 30, 2009
not quite
but close
santo4hof - July 30, 2009
He's first on my screen
Allie - July 30, 2009
yep
santo4hof needs a refresh
LT - July 30, 2009
yes
tootle - July 30, 2009
First
place until tonight’s Cards game.
santo4hof - July 30, 2009
and maybe after the Cards game too....
JB 23 - July 30, 2009
Great homestand!
The offense is certainly clicking the way it should be. Hopefully things stay hot and we build up a nice lead into August.
It was only a matter of time with Ortiz, the guy is finished.
crw89 - July 30, 2009
What a great homestand,
now we have to parlay that into better play on the road.
KaliCub - July 30, 2009
I like the trade
Though I wouldn’t have mind having Duke instead of the other two pitchers; hell who knows we may get him tomorrow..
Chanman25 - July 30, 2009
and the Pirates would not mind having Vitters
Sorry but Hill for A-Ram is once a decade.
Doggie Stalker - July 30, 2009
Remember that Rami was a throw in...
Lofton was the centerpiece of that deal, necessitated by CPat going down.
Jimmyeatworld - July 30, 2009
No way was Ramirez a throw in. Hendry had targeted the guy and Pitt knew that they weren't going to be able to pay him down the road.
Acapulco Taco Pie - July 30, 2009
I'm not sure what Ramirez's contract status was at the time...
… but I do know the Pirates had to dump it.
Al Yellon - July 30, 2009
Yeah, Hendry knew that Pitt couldn't afford to keep him, he most certainly wasn't a "throw in."
Acapulco Taco Pie - July 30, 2009
Rami signed a 3yr/$9.5 mil deal with Pitt after the '01 season.
‘02:$0.5M, ’03:$3M, ’04:$6M
- Courtesy Cot’s Baseball Contracts
dtc0405 - July 30, 2009
Throw in is a bit extreme
because the PTBNL list included all the top prospects on the Cubs, or most of them. Without Rami in the deal that list would have included lower prospects.
nji232 - July 30, 2009
Winning the FLA series
seems like a huge thing. Keeping the confidence going would be fantastic.
Allie - July 30, 2009
+3
or at least +2. Does anyone have the pitching matchups handy?
chilango2 - July 30, 2009
Harden v Volstad
Z v TBA
Demps v Nolasco
according to cubs.com
Allie - July 30, 2009
Whew
The Cubs miss Johnson… I say the Marlins release Nolasco 20 minutes after the game’s over Sunday.
chilango2 - July 30, 2009
lol
Allie - July 30, 2009
Johnson pitched last night
And held the Braves down to a pair of homers. Meanwhile, he jacked a 3-run shot of his own to pretty much win the game single-handedly.
Yup – I’m glad we don’t see him…
Clutch16 - July 30, 2009 via mobile
as opposed to todays starters
TBT v. TBR
tim815 - July 30, 2009
This post is a thing of beauty
chilango2 - July 30, 2009
thanks
tim815 - July 30, 2009
ISWYDT
lol
Goodie1969 - July 30, 2009
Well played, sir
CaughtInTheVines - July 30, 2009 via mobile
and I wish Kevin Hart the best of luck in Pittsburgh
saw him pitch against DC a week ago and really liked his stuff.
Chanman25 - July 30, 2009
Startin' to come together, Pepper, startin' to come together!
willie mays hayes' gloves - July 30, 2009
IT'S HAPPENING!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?
lexmarklover - July 30, 2009
Houston seems like they got their season backwards.
Usually they start out poorly and finish strong. Might be working the other way this year.
I’m not sure how this Astros team was ever on the verge of first place. They looked like Pittsburgh with only slightly less disgusting uniforms.
Goodie1969 - July 30, 2009
they were 6-4 before playing the Cubs and actually swept the Cards at Minute Made.
Not bad
lexmarklover - July 30, 2009
Let's hope
That they have some luck against the Cards this weekend.
vonde6 - July 30, 2009
Dome seems...
…to be definitely coming around in the leadoff spot! I hope he keeps it up by the time the Cubs make it back out to California.
LeSaboteur - July 30, 2009
Fukudome's triple-slash line
… is now .274/.383/.449… OPS .832. If he can perform at this level the rest of the year, he’s a very productive player offensively, not to mention plus in the outfield.
Al Yellon - July 30, 2009
Any idea what his...
…numbers are since taking the #1 hole? Len n’ Bob were saying he’s batting .321 at the start of today’s game.
Yes, he definitely would be. He’ll start approaching that level we all expected out of him.
LeSaboteur - July 30, 2009
you can see...
for yourself
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
I knew there...
…was a reason why I stayed away from Baseball Reference.
Seriously though, thanks. That’s a damn lot of data…
LeSaboteur - July 30, 2009
in the 15 G since taking over as lead off
.321/.400/.518
Allie - July 30, 2009
That's not bad
at all. Here’s to hoping he keeps it up!
gwood - July 31, 2009
I have to say as a Fukudome basher
that he has done very well in the leadoff spot.
nji232 - July 30, 2009
Agreed.
Leave him there.
Al Yellon - July 30, 2009
Yeah, he...
…definitely is doing the job. Now only he’d steal a few more bases (like he does in MLB The Show), and things would be grand.
Maybe we’ve now “settled” on a lineup that we all can be happy with?
LeSaboteur - July 30, 2009
I think so
again I was a huge proponent of keeping Soriano in the leadoff spot, but the changes have worked across the board. Leave it as is and we will score tons of runs.
nji232 - July 30, 2009
I can see why...
…you liked Fonzi in the leadoff spot, but I always wanted to have somebody who ‘gets on base’ as opposed trying to go yard; this way there’s a shot a multiple runs as opposed to one.
LeSaboteur - July 30, 2009
Having Dome's
Japanese hitting coach around for a bit seems to have been quite productive
gwood - July 31, 2009
I got a text from a Cardinals fan today
asking when the Cubs plan on beating a real baseball team.
My response- “didn’t the astros just sweep you guys?”
Great series and great homestand. Miami is a bit of a house of horrors for us, but hopefully the offense stays hot and we can win two of 3.
nji232 - July 30, 2009
I was getting hitched last year when the Cubs took the Miami Lakes swing
What was the record? Two-of-three or one-of three?
chilango2 - July 30, 2009
Two of three.
Al Yellon - July 30, 2009
We were on the fun side
of a Kevin Gregg meltdown IIRC
nji232 - July 30, 2009
Yes
And Darryle Ward’s home run ball has still yet to land.
ambrosiadreams - July 30, 2009
Thank you sir
chilango2 - July 30, 2009
I would've told him "October."
Goodie1969 - July 30, 2009
"Miami is a bit of a house of horrors for us"
What do you mean by that?
Freddyd - July 30, 2009
We've played like garbage
there for the last 5 years or so?
Allie - July 30, 2009
I just feel like we don't play well there
I know last year we did, but I feel like Miami, Chase Field, and Philly are 3 places that we just don’t play well.
nji232 - July 30, 2009
Don't forget Dodger Stadium
vonde6 - July 30, 2009
Don't Forget
Petco Park
San Diego Smooth Jazz Man - July 30, 2009
I think we need 162 home games
nji232 - July 30, 2009
Let's be fair:
81 games at Wrigley and 81 at Nationals Park.
chilango2 - July 30, 2009
against the Nationals?
nji232 - July 30, 2009
I'm not opposed to that
Or playing as visitors at Miller Park against the Astros. That always brings great results.
chilango2 - July 30, 2009
dont forget to have z not pitch for an extended period of time
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
Lets bring it to Bud
give him another present on his birthday.
nji232 - July 30, 2009
Throw
in some at Wrigley North
gwood - July 31, 2009
Only because...
…the Cubs are embarrassed to be playing in that faux pyramid. ;-)
LeSaboteur - July 30, 2009
Selective memory is a blessing in disguise, huh Fred?
chilango2 - July 30, 2009
Well, you know what they say
Ignorance is bliss!
Freddyd - July 30, 2009
Great win and great homestand
The offense is ALIVE.
The Cubs have always had trouble in Florida, so I’m not going to make any cocky predictions. Its going to be tough.
The trade is ok. I hope they aren’t counting on much from Gorzelany but Grabow should be a pretty decent addition to take Heilmans place.
jeff_pico - July 30, 2009
OT- How is Bobby Wade still in the NFL?
God, he is a complete joke…
lexmarklover - July 30, 2009
Grabow is a Type A free agent .... nice
lexmarklover - July 30, 2009
double edged sord
If you want the draft picks you have to offer him arbitration. Good chance he takes it for about 3 million.
Doggie Stalker - July 30, 2009
um make that SWORD not sord
Doggie Stalker - July 30, 2009
We could do worse than a solid LH reliever for that price.
Al Yellon - July 30, 2009
Yes, we paid Scott Eyre more than that
vonde6 - July 30, 2009
You guys think we're done?
I’m hoping we still acquire a bench hitter.
illini23 - July 30, 2009
we can always
add somebody like that before Aug 31
CalCalender - July 30, 2009
I don't. I would not be surprised to see Hermida switch sides while we are down there...
Jimmyeatworld - July 30, 2009
May it be!
DGU - July 30, 2009
the cubs have enough OFers hitting near the .250 mark
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
Jeremy Hermida is precisely the kind of guy Jim Hendry has had a lot of success in acquiring in the past -
a former touted prospect who has disappointed the team that brought him to the dance. He’s just 25 and could easily blossom with a change of scenery.
DGU - July 30, 2009
I was in favor of the Cubs trading for Hermida during the offseason.
Not so sure why they need him now.
Al Yellon - July 30, 2009
He's a good buy-low guy.
We don’t need him, but if we can get him cheaply…
Plus, I’d imagine that if we get someone like Hermida, it may well signal that Bradley will be dumped in the off-season.
DGU - July 30, 2009
I'm starting to warm up to Milton...
i never thought I’d see the day!
ambrosiadreams - July 30, 2009
I'm warming up to Milton as well, especially because
Last 7 days (24 PAs) .353/.500/.706/1.206
Last 14 days (39 PAs) .333/.462/.533/.995
Last 28 days (77 PAs) .281/.455/.456/.911
Baseball reference is awesome!
gwood - July 31, 2009
That is a very handsome trend
Not that I could expect 1.206 to be sustainable – but a 28 day 0.911 is great to see.
ChipSet - July 31, 2009
Moves before Deadline
sorry if i am joining the game late…. some crazy ideas
A) is the Bradley-to-Detroit thing totally dead? Then we get Adam Dunn?
B) is there any chance we make a last-minute under-the-radar pitch for Halladay? Say, Geo + Marmol + Hoffpauir
C) don’t we think we want an upgrade from Fonty at 2B? Obviously we should’ve gotten You-Know-Who before he went to Cards. anyone else out there? Roberts?
cubsgocubs - July 30, 2009
I dont think the Bradley to Detroit thing ever existed
cubsonWGN4ever - July 30, 2009
In Stone's and Kaplan's weak little minds.
willie mays hayes' gloves - July 30, 2009
Criticize Stone & Kaplan all you want....
… but I did hear there was at least an inquiry about Bradley from Detroit, that likely went no further than one phone call. But it did happen.
Al Yellon - July 30, 2009
If there was an inquiry, why did Dombrowski flat out deny it?
Hendry denied there was any contact either. I get that you want to defend Stone and Kaplan; and that’s fine. The fact remains that NO ONE besides Stone and Kaplan verified the inquiry. As far as I’m concerned it was made up, and I believe I’m in the majority with this belief.
Jimmyeatworld - July 30, 2009
Maybe Dombrowski wasn't the one who made the call.
Or, maybe Dombrowski wanted to just kill the whole thing, or make Stone look bad. Who knows?
Al Yellon - July 30, 2009
Let's hope both.
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
Al, you just said that you heard there was an inquiry FROM Detroit...
Why would Dombrowski give a rat’s bass about making Stone look bad? Face it. Stone and Kaplan MADE IT UP.
Jimmyeatworld - July 30, 2009
I invite you to write a letter to
CSN’s and WGN’s ombudsmen requesting an explanation on the rumor. It’s their job to investigate possible issues with what they broadcast. If they find Kaplan and Stone guilty, they are fired on the spot and may face lawsuits.
chilango2 - July 30, 2009
That's a good idea Chil. Thanks.
Jimmyeatworld - July 30, 2009
Be my guest.
I know what I know.
Al Yellon - July 30, 2009
or make Stone look bad
Well, I like Dombrowski better now then I did five minutes ago.
drewishdrewid - July 30, 2009
Stone actually does a good enough job of making himself look bad without any help from Dombrowski.
I don’t know if it was true but Stone said Dombrowski told him he wouldn’t want a guy like Bradley on his team. I highly doubt all the guys on Detroit’s roster are of unquestioned character. If Dombrowski did say that I’m not a big fan. He could simply say he has no interest without putting the guy down. It’s my assumption Stone threw in the put down on his own when he was told Detroit had no interest.
Acapulco Taco Pie - July 30, 2009
Domrowski would look pretty stupid saying that
Considering that he had Garry “I’ll show you an error” Sheffield.
Shanghai Badger - July 31, 2009
Either Dombrowski said it or Stone is embellishing.
Quoth the Twitter account of Former Playgirl Model Steve Stone:
“From the mouth of dave dombrowski the GM of the tigers, i would not have him on my team.”
Dombrowski wouldn’t say that unless he has a problem with Bradley on a personal level. Stone was certainly saying that Bradley is a guy that the Tigers’ organization would not even consider having on their team.
Acapulco Taco Pie - August 2, 2009
General managers never lie...
and never deny events that have taken place, is that what you’re saying?
markleonette - July 30, 2009
B is the worst idea ever.
I still want Teahen
slcathena - July 30, 2009
yeah, "B" is eric hanna-like
Teahen would be a FANTASTIC addition to this team.
ambrosiadreams - July 30, 2009
I know, right?
I literally can’t stop thinking about it.
slcathena - July 30, 2009
TEAHEN TEAHEN TEAHEN TEAHEN TEAHEN TEAHEN
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
drewishdrewid - July 30, 2009
Peacock hen
But a valiant attempt. +.321
Clutch16 - July 30, 2009 via mobile
I thought
there really was a Teahen bird, but couldn’t find one… Peacock hens are called “peahens”. :D
drewishdrewid - July 30, 2009
Do you know how you can tell the Peahens from the Peacocks?
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
The Peanuts.
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
ba-dump-dump.
drewishdrewid - July 30, 2009
On the bright side...
…at least these ideas are not in a fanpost.
Goodie1969 - July 30, 2009
Those are some crazy ideas...
A) Bradley to Detroit was made up by Stone and Kraplan.
B) No need, nor room for Halladay, (plus he would cost too much).
C) Fonty isn’t going anywhere, he’ll stick as a platoon player at second.
Jimmyeatworld - July 30, 2009
I wouldn't be too surprised to see Fontenot go in a deadline deal for a 2b?
jeff_pico - July 30, 2009
If the organization had given up on him, then yes. I don't think they have though.
Jimmyeatworld - July 30, 2009
I agree
and think they’re right not to give up on him. Plus, if they did decide to pull him back to a 300 AB a year player, I’d give Jeff Baker more playing time and give him a try. I like Jeff Baker better than Freddy Sanchez.
DGU - July 30, 2009
Baker is pretty weak against righties.
Acapulco Taco Pie - July 30, 2009
Could be that's how things will end up.
The Cubs are certainly playing him that way right now.
I’d say the jury’s still out on him, though.
DGU - July 30, 2009
platoon splits on Baker
vs. RHP in 407 PA .243/ .296/ .397
vs. LHP in 246 PA .279/ .341/ .562
He’s significantly better against lefties and pretty poor verses righties. There is certainly nothing he’s done thus far that makes me want to see him get more at bats against righties.
Acapulco Taco Pie - July 30, 2009
You're not interested in the power he's shown?
And you know whose career splits those are fairly close to?
Guess.
DGU - July 30, 2009
ISWYDT
nice!
ambrosiadreams - July 30, 2009
So you think Baker's going to win a batting title someday?
Freddy Sanchez (who is no longer an option for the Cubs to pick-up)
vs. RHP .282/ .318/ .393
vs. LHP .352/ .389/ .502
Sanchez’s power isn’t better but his average and OBP are significantly higher. Baker’s power most likely comes at the expense of that lower average. Let’s also add that Baker is 28, not exactly young with a lot of expectation for those numbers to climb significantly. Thanks but I’ll take Sanchez who won a batting title at that age.
Acapulco Taco Pie - July 30, 2009
Of course not - contact isn's Baker's game.
But all Sanchez has on Baker is AVG. And if the OBP/SLG are the same, the AVG doesn’t make that much difference.
Baker has more power v. RHP, because his SLG is equal to Sanchez’ but coming off of a lower AVG. If you believe, as I do, that Baker might bring up that AVG without giving up power, then he could easily become a clearly superior player to Sanchez over the next three years.
Baker is not young, but his career is still young, without much consistent playing time because of how he was blocked in Colorado.
DGU - July 30, 2009
Since Baker is 28, no I don't believe he can maintain that power and increase his average significantly. .
You say his career is young but I’m sure you understand that if he had been better he would have been playing at the major league level sooner. If Baker were 24 or 25 I might agree with you.
Acapulco Taco Pie - July 30, 2009
Baker was a 3B
blocked in Colorado by their preference to play Helton, Atkins, Holliday, and Hawpe – 4 pretty good bats (at least until recently in Atkins’ case).
I’m not saying there’s a good chance he progresses. I’m saying there is a chance and giving him some ABs v. RHP isn’t a bad idea, especially if it can turn Fontenot back into 2008 version.
DGU - July 30, 2009
Agreed...
…on A & C. On ‘B’ though, I say there’s always room for another quality starting arm. He’d definitely cost too much, but there’s room.
LeSaboteur - July 30, 2009
We are not going anywhere in the postseason
Without a fully-functioning Carlos Marmol.
vonde6 - July 30, 2009
marmols fine
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
did we go anywhere the last few years WITH Marmol
Its the offense that needs to get it done in the postseason.
jeff_pico - July 30, 2009
+ 10000000000 BCB points
cubnational - July 30, 2009
Agreed that you need more parts to make it work
But I was responding to the post about trading, among others, Marmol for Halladay.
vonde6 - July 30, 2009
1) Yes, thank gods.
2) I don’t think so
3) I think Baker/Fontenot will do fine.
drewishdrewid - July 30, 2009
Question for Al
Is this the pitcher who you thought we’d all be very happy that we got? Just out of curiosity
cubsonWGN4ever - July 30, 2009
he's said its "close"
to the deal he heard about
Allie - July 30, 2009
Thanks
Was curious…I’m not particularly ecstatic. I’m mostly ambivalent about this deal so far. One of those wait and see things.
cubsonWGN4ever - July 30, 2009
Grabow was part of that deal that I heard about.
So that was, at least, true.
Al Yellon - July 30, 2009
so it was duke
tim815 - July 30, 2009
Hey Al, remember when Deep Goat told you about some rumor
and you said that we would be very happy if it actually happened. Is this the trade?
lexmarklover - July 30, 2009
whoops nevermind.
lexmarklover - July 30, 2009
Cards up 1-0 end of first
Can we have a thread for this . It is hot and boring in New York.
Doggie Stalker - July 30, 2009
It's rainy and boring in Chicago
Make it happen.
chilango2 - July 30, 2009
cards up 1-0 top 2nd
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
great minds think alike
or deranged pathetic people think alike. Either works for me.
Doggie Stalker - July 30, 2009
game tied
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
The Cubs showed they
can have back to back double digit run games. Keep it going guys.
sue369 - July 30, 2009
A very good review and recap, Al.
I think it is despicable how the Pirates act as a farm system for other teams. I am glad I am not a Pirates fan otherwise I would be screaming.
dtpollitt - July 30, 2009
I couldn't agree more, Dan
It’s once thing to not win, it’s quite another to give up the quantity and caliber of players they have in the last 6 years. This about it: they’d have Rammy at 3B, Jack Wilson at SS, Freddy Sanchez at 2B, Laroche at 1B, Xavier Nady in the OF, I know they had Jason Kendall catching. That team if kept together has a lot of potential. Their front office seems very poorly managed and they have disgraced their fan base, in my humble opinion.
ambrosiadreams - July 30, 2009
Jason Bay.
Nate McClouth
Devin B - July 30, 2009
thank you!
i knew i was forgetting some biggies. It’s ridiculous how that franchise has been run, and I honestly do feel terrible for their fans. They have such a beautiful ballpark, too..
ambrosiadreams - July 30, 2009
It really is crazy.
Devin B - July 30, 2009
It makes me very very angry as a baseball fan.
The disparity in MLB could not be worse when crap like this happens on a regular basis. Teams like the Padres, Royals, and Pirates just seem to have no desire to win. I understand it is a business, and as a owner or general manager that may be priority number one, but with success comes profit. I’d rather see a competitive Pirates team than the piss-poor excuse for a major league team they currently have, and have had, for the last decade and a half.
dtpollitt - July 30, 2009
Salary cap
that is the best solution to this. Look at what it has done with competitive balance in the NFL. But it won’t ever happen in baseball.
Archie - July 31, 2009
You're right,
although I see this year’s massive sell-off as kind of the ultimate result of bad decisions over the last ten years: the pro talent they had was getting them nowhere, so why not sell it all off and hope for a halfway decent team around 2012? Nothing else was working.
Inkin - July 30, 2009
I think the Cards
should buy the Cubs hitters some dinners after shredding the Houston bullpen the way they did.
CyberCyclist - July 30, 2009
matt holliday barely hits first HR as cardinal
cards fans are going ecstatic for their newfound savior
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
Kinda like they were for DeRosa?
Archie - July 31, 2009
Pirates Fan
The one Pirates fan in my office is selling his fandom on ebay. He’s giving away his jersey and in return, the winning bidder must provide him with a Jersey of his favorite team.
I know this isn’t completely original but seriously, there’s no Pirates fans around these days.
ak123 - July 30, 2009
I would guess that whatever their season ticket base is...
…. it’ll be cut at least in half after this year.
Their smallest crowd of the year is 8,790, so it has to be somewhere less than that. They could have less than 4000 season tickets sold next year.
Al Yellon - July 30, 2009
such a shame, too
PNC is one of the most beautiful ballparks in the league. If only they could show their fanbase they’re serious about contending.
ambrosiadreams - July 30, 2009
Agreed
PNC is beautiful. One of the places I’ve always wanted to see in person.
Allie - July 30, 2009
I live not too terribly far from Pittsburgh
and have had the pleasure to see games there a handful of times. It really is a beautiful park.
ambrosiadreams - July 30, 2009
My favorite new park in baseball
Does not get enough credit.
Doggie Stalker - July 30, 2009
PNC Park is outstanding
What’s more, Pittsburgh is a very underrated city. Great place.
Not Bruce Froemming - July 31, 2009
Agreed on both.
Al Yellon - July 31, 2009
ditto
Archie - July 31, 2009
I love the view of it
So pretty.
Allie - July 30, 2009
What makes this situation so bad
Is that the Pirates WILL TURN A PROFIT. They keep the low payroll by trading players who might actually get much money and keep the shared MLB revenue. The Brewers did this while Bud was there but of course changed under new ownership. I remember the players union wanting in the last contract to require a fixed portion of the shared revenue on salaries but the owners balked.
Doggie Stalker - July 30, 2009
it's called Corporate Viability
Or Coprolitical Vagary
cubnational - July 30, 2009
Another reason for low ticket sales
Is that Cubs play no weekend games this year.
Not to make it seem like we’re all high and mighty but the fact is we do bring in much larger crowds. No weekend trips this year.
ak123 - July 30, 2009
dodgers look pathetic
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
unfortunately we can relate lol...just going through a slump I guess
jeff_pico - July 30, 2009
we can. they look like the cubs during june
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
Hey Al,
are you allowed to tell us who the pitcher was that would have made us all very happy yet
ndcubs - July 30, 2009
That deal isn't going to happen.
But it might have been Duke. That’s all I know.
Al Yellon - July 30, 2009
cool, thanks
ndcubs - July 30, 2009
Marlins going to extras
How bout a nice 17 inning game exhausting the bullpen & bench ?
Doggie Stalker - July 30, 2009
i like that
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
stupid Braves have two on and one out in top of the tenth
Doggie Stalker - July 30, 2009
McCann goes yard for 3 run jack
Good for my fantasy team bad for tiring Marlns out.
Doggie Stalker - July 30, 2009
Hey Dodgers leading
Do they have Sherrill yet? Doesn’t seem Torre likes most of his bullpen.
jeff_pico - July 30, 2009
no he'll be with them tomorrow in atlanta
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
HOLY CRAP PUJOLS LEANED OVER THE TARP AND CAUGHT THE BALL
THIS GUYS THE BEST DEFENDER IVE EVER SEEN
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
Luckily he had a bad defensive series vs the Cubs
jeff_pico - July 30, 2009
and during the allstar game
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
Um...he's arguably the best hitter in baseball right now, has been for awhile too...
But let’s not get carried away here. Haven’t you seen Sandberg…Ozzie…or Mad Dog for that matter? Let’s let him win a few more gold gloves and defend like that for a long time before you say best ever man.
Sandberg's evil twin - July 31, 2009
im being sarcastic
and making fun of the people who drool over every small play he makes
jesus christos - July 31, 2009
My son believed everything he heard during the home run derby and all star game.
I keep trying to explain that the “current best hitter in baseball” is a brief title and he’ll either fall back or be surpassed by someone soon enough.
He’s still a hell of a ballplayer, but…
N Oakley - July 31, 2009
i hate rick ankiel
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
i hate him more
ndcubs - July 30, 2009
I can see why Torre doesn't like his bullpen when G. Mota is one of your options.
jeff_pico - July 30, 2009
Thanks Ned
You could not have gotten Sherrill two days earlier and saved Cub fan and your own stupid team some grief.
Doggie Stalker - July 30, 2009
at least the Cards have to use Thompson
Presumably due to last nights long game.
jeff_pico - July 30, 2009
3-3
to the 9th
ndcubs - July 30, 2009
todd wellemeyers in the pen
i think the dodgers should be able to score off him
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
i would certainly hope so
ndcubs - July 30, 2009
to the 10th we go...
score early dodgers i cant take another late night
ndcubs - July 30, 2009
score early
and hope your bullpen doesnt blow it… again
ugh.. franklins still in
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
i hate ryan franklins facial hair
more than i hate the cardinals
ndcubs - July 30, 2009
the cardinals
may have the worst facial hair of any team ever.
Allie - July 30, 2009
Some of those 1970s A's teams would like to have a word...
Clutch16 - July 30, 2009 via mobile
word.
slcathena - July 30, 2009
and might I add
score early AND hold them!
slcathena - July 30, 2009
what the hell happened to the dodgers?
John T. Unger - July 30, 2009
playing games outside the west
and they peaked early.
all that emotion of “weathering the storm w/o manny” has worn off.
Allie - July 30, 2009
Add to that a sizeable lead and some laziness setting in.
Every good team and even a great season has this. I’m not saying it will be that for them, though it sure could. But you can’t expect any team to maintain focus all year, especially with the record they had at the beginning of the Cards series.
Sandberg's evil twin - July 31, 2009
if you mean why can't they win...
since the break they have a 4.03 ERA, which is good for 11th in the NL, and they are 10th in runs scored. And they are 6-7 since then.
dtc0405 - July 30, 2009
They realized they have Juan Pierre on their team.
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
I once amused a crowd in the bleachers by calling him 'Wom'
Pretty sure there are still some of them who think that’s really his name.
Clutch16 - July 30, 2009 via mobile
ok wellemeyer in with 2 men in scoring position
i have a good feeling
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
Yeah...he was always so clutch for us in these situations.
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
Basehit 2 runs score.
5-3 dodgers.
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
THANK YOU MATT KEMP
ndcubs - July 30, 2009
correction: Thank you Todd Wellemeyer
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
i always knew welly would come through for us this year
ndcubs - July 30, 2009
LaRussa hates that guy
more than we hate Aaron Heilman, I think
ambrosiadreams - July 30, 2009
wellemeyer blows it
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
Thanks TODD
I always liked you.
Doggie Stalker - July 30, 2009
good thing about him being in the bullpen is that he can blow more than 1 game every 5 days
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
Couldn't they have sent a private jet for Sherrill ?
Doggie Stalker - July 30, 2009
Thurston, Shoemaker, Rasmus due up for the Cards in the bottom of the 10th.
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
uh oh
colby “i cant grow a mustache but i can get a broken bat basehit” rasmus
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
actually....Ludwick will bat for Rasmus...Rasmus is out of the game.
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
my bad
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
Broxton again?
Don’t blow it this time!
jeff_pico - July 30, 2009
As long as it doesn't get to Pujols....he probably won't.
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
2 runs
makes it a little easier… maybe
Allie - July 30, 2009
dont walk him, man
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
Brox-TON walks the leadoff man.
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
Unreal.
slcathena - July 30, 2009
Heilmannish
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
Seriously.
slcathena - July 30, 2009
i dont have a good feeling about this
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
Broxton has an inability to throw strikes
Ace Venom - July 30, 2009
Let's be positive...
Broxton has an ability to throw balls.
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
As long as he can't find the strike zone against us
I’m okay with it
Ace Venom - July 30, 2009
Shew-maucker flies out to Manny. 1 out.
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
skip flies out
1 down
ndcubs - July 30, 2009
double play would be awesome here
pujols is lurking..
Allie - July 30, 2009
Ludwick was responsible for the blown save (both of them) last night
Ace Venom - July 30, 2009
Lampwick flies out to Manny. 2 out.
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
manny made that look harder than it needed to be
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
He's the best LF'er in the National League.
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
and AL
ndcubs - July 30, 2009
But but but!
Sori!
Clutch16 - July 30, 2009 via mobile
fonzie being fonzie?
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
[waves hand in front of face] You can't see me!
N Oakley - July 31, 2009
1 more brox
ndcubs - July 30, 2009
YAY!
First place!
slcathena - July 30, 2009
Pujols taps out to Broxton.
Dodger WIN!
santoswoodenlegs - July 30, 2009
FIRST PLACE chicago cubs!
ndcubs - July 30, 2009
First place!
Ace Venom - July 30, 2009
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
We forgot this one in the game threads.
Vermont Cubs Fan - July 30, 2009
It means:
Astros lose!!!
Vermont Cubs Fan - July 30, 2009
Oh, I thought it meant, "Does my forehead look big in these pants?"
N Oakley - July 31, 2009
okay
good night all! See you tomorrow! Let’s fry some fish!
slcathena - July 30, 2009
cool!
now… we need to manage not to suck while in FLA. :-P
Allie - July 30, 2009
Amen
It’s good that we’re broke that losing streak in Florida last season
Ace Venom - July 30, 2009
so sad
to see the best fans in the world go home sad :)
DC Cubbie - July 30, 2009
ha ha ha ha ha
slcathena - July 30, 2009
on to LAND SHARK STADIUM
wtf
ndcubs - July 30, 2009
haha
ambrosiadreams - July 30, 2009
spellcheck stadium is more like it
jesus christos - July 30, 2009
and 3 up in lose column
Doggie Stalker - July 30, 2009
YES! good point
and i’m responding to your email. :)
ambrosiadreams - July 30, 2009
um LOSS column
but same idea.
Doggie Stalker - July 30, 2009
off to bed
night everyone!
ndcubs - July 30, 2009
gosh Sox blew another 9th ining lead.
DC Cubbie - July 30, 2009
White Sox Vs Yankees
is like Mets Vs Cardinals. Best thing is one of them losses.
Doggie Stalker - July 30, 2009
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