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The Great Gorzo, Part Deux: Cubs vs. Rockies Preview, Monday 8/10, 7:40 CT

"The Great Gorzo" was the winner of Zeke's FanPost series to decide Tom Gorzelanny's nickname. With the Great Gorzo going tonight, the headline followed naturally.

Anyway, the Cubs need this win to split the series (and season series) with the Rockies, and have a .500 road trip, which is one way to make a playoff team (split on the road, win 2/3 of your games at home). Another way is to beat up on the bad teams and split with the good ones -- some here have complained that "the Cubs can't beat the good teams", noting they are 20-23 against teams which currently have winning records. The Cubs have recently won series vs. the Brewers and Astros when those teams began the series with a winning record, so quoting "currently" doesn't necessarily reflect what was going on at the time. I pointed out yesterday that the Cardinals have a 21-21 record vs. teams that currently have winning records.

I thought it would be instructive to take a look at other good teams' records against such teams. Currently, 16 of the 30 teams are over .500.

The Dodgers are 34-29 against those teams. The Rockies are 28-30. The Giants are 28-25. The Phillies are 27-28.

Hmmm. Looks like "good" teams in the National League pretty much split against each other. How about some of the AL teams?

The Yankees are 28-29 (even after sweeping Boston this past weekend). The Red Sox are also 28-29. The Angels are 31-33. And the Tigers are 26-25.

So it appears that most, if not all, of the contending teams this year are doing it by splitting with each other and beating up on the bad teams. The Cubs, at 20-23, are a little behind the rest, but not much.

Meanwhile, if Aramis Ramirez's shoulder is still bothering him after some more rest (likely today's game, too), further treatment may be necessary:

If a day or two of rest doesn't significantly improve the soreness in Aramis Ramirez's left shoulder, the next step could be a cortisone shot that sidelines the Cubs' cleanup hitter for at least two more games during a particularly tough stretch of opponents.

"We talked about it," said the third baseman, who was forced to leave Saturday's game in the fifth inning because of increasing soreness in the shoulder he dislocated early this season. "We'll see how it responds with some [oral] medicine first before we take that step.

"We don't have any days off here, so it's going to be a day that we play if we do it."

Let's hope that isn't needed and Aramis can return to the lineup tomorrow night against the Phillies.

Star-divide

Today's Starting Pitchers
Tom Gorzelanny
Tom Gorzelanny
Cubs
vs. Jorge de la Rosa
Jorge de la Rosa
Rockies
4-1 W-L 9-8
3.38 ERA 5.00
13 SO 120
5 BB 50
0 HR 15
vs. Col -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Tom Gorzelanny 4-1 10 1 0 0 0 0 16.0 9 6 6 0 5 13 3.38 .88


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Jorge De La Rosa 9-8 22 21 0 0 0 0 122.1 118 71 68 15 50 120 5.00 1.37

Jorge de la Rosa has never started against the Cubs, but didn't allow them a run in 6.1 relief innings over three appearances with the Brewers from 2004-06 and one with the Rockies last year. Alfonso Soriano is 2-for-3 vs. de la Rosa with a HR.

Tom Gorzelanny has made two starts against the Rockies, one of them in Coors Field on August 22, 2007. He gave up two runs (one earned) in six innings that day. If he can keep his sinker down tonight, I expect good results. No current Rockie has more than three career AB vs. Gorzelanny.

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Comments

Get better Aram

Go Cubbies!!

getting ARam back would be a real "shot in the arm" for this offense!

…as opposed to a shot in the shoulder

Let's get this win!
Does Gorzelanny shave yet?

or is that his Bar Mitzvah photo?

He's not the Jewish one acquired from Pittsburgh.

You’re thinking of the other guy Grabow. Now sit back and wait for Doggie Stalker to provide us with a scintillating review of all Jewish ballplayers in baseball and whether each is circumcised.

Completely inappropriate, but I LOL'ed, not gonna lie.
Well since you seem to want to know

My best GUESS would be only Grabow and Marquis though I have absolutely no first hand knowledge.

Great analysis of splitting with +.500 teams, Mr. Yellon.

I like it.

I'm guessing we won't hear from...

… the person who mentioned this in the first place, because I’ve disproven his hypothesis.

Yes, I thought the same thing.

It matters not; good teams in baseball cannot beat up on other good teams more than about 50-55% of the time as you’ve shown from this season. IIRC, there’s a chapter or a section on THE BOOK about win expectancy. I might have to pull it out again and look at it and add to your thoughts later tonight.

Dan

please don't pull it out again

the children are still awake

LOL Carl.
BTW, you are 100% right :-)
When has that ever stopped him ?

should anything go bad tonight I imagine we will hear from him.

too bad you were wrong on the hearing from part :(
And with the Phillies

currently with 3 wins in their last 10 and losers of 3 in a row we are getting them at a good time. Pedro is going Wednesday for his first start, that will be interesting. Harden will have to be on against Happ and Dempster has a tough on with Cliff Lee. I think we can take 2 of 3 and with a win tonight we’ll have a little better record against teams above .500.

I hate playing teams in losing streaks

I figure the odds are against you.

agreed but we have lost a decent amount lately as well
You might want to reconsider that statement...

…seeing as how it could only apply for the first game of a series. I would think you’d want to face a team with a losing streak the rest of the time.

agreed.

now, let’s win 3 of the next 4 and get our # in line with the rest of the contenders.

Amen.

Mully and Hanley kept flogging the dead horse of “The Cubs haven’t won a series against a team with a winning record since April” this morning and I wanted to punch a hole in my radio.

Oh my

I read the quoted section with the boxed word [ ] as replacement, not an addition.

Well, yes, we’ll see how it responds to that. While I appreciate how far the team is willing to go for him, I’m not sure it’s going to help his shoulder.

Pain meds, I'm guessing.
I figured that out

eventually.

bracketed words in a quote are a pet peeve of mine

a quote should be the quote – and you can quote me on that. Did ARam say “oral” or didn’t he? If he did, then no need for brackets. If he didn’t, then why include it in the quote. If there’s some context needed, then add it outside the quote – don’t sit there and put words in the guy’s mouth; oral or otherwise…

A lot of times there's no way around it...

In academic work for example, it’s almost unavoidable (try quoting a government report with sub-clauses/sections without using brackets).

It’s also necessary when you have pronoun confusion. There’s really nothing untoward about doing it, unless you to do to alter the meaning of what’s being said.

I try to stay away from academic work, so I'll take your word for it.

and in the hands of a well-trained writer, perhaps it is a necessary evil. But seeing as how most of the situations I see it in are in sports articles, I question the writer’s skill to correctly use it. And in the case of a few Chicago writers, they do seem to do it to alter the meaning.

Just seems like a cop-out most of the time.

caption: hey ump, im on the base!
White sox got Alex Rios

for nothing

Where did you see that?

I can’t find any links.

And it’s not quite “for nothing”. They have to pay the $56 million left on his contract.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/baseball/blue-jays-trade-rios/article1247197/

Thanks for the link.

Dumping Rios’ deal makes it possible that they might be able to keep Roy Halladay.

Assuming Halladay would stay

which I kind of doubt.

Random musings from MLBTR; press conference shortly.
Sorry Al

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/08/white-sox-acquire-alex-rios.html

Thanks.

My guess is, the Sox will send a player or two who have cleared waivers to Toronto for a PTBNL.

Ricardi

said they will not get anything but contract relief

Al now searching for a negative spin on this Sox move.
Bluebird Banter...

… Seems like many of the posters there don’t especially like getting nothing in return for Rios.

IIRC Rios is a player KW has pined for, for quite awhile. This may also have been a move to block the Tigers – who may have been looking to shed Magglio and replace him with Rios. It strengthens the Sox this season and prepares them for next season, as Dye & Thome could both very well be seeing their final seasons with the Sox.

Yeah but

with Contreras, Thome and Dotel gone at the end of the year, they’re hardly adding any money. Even the money they’re adding is well-spent. I think the Peavy and Rios deals are good moves.

yeah, if you think about it, KW is just doing all his "FA" shopping now, instead of in the off-season.

Only in these cases, the price tag has already been established. Peavy and Rios were on the shelf, clearly labeled. No hassles, no bargaining, no “well, lemme say what my manager says”, and especially no rustproofing. If these were guys he had wanted for awhile, then these are great moves.

And no draft pick compensation for Rios
CRAWDAD ATTACK!

Let’s hear your take on the move, bud. Dye, Pods, Los. Who goes where?

Yeah right.

I posted my thoughts above on the acquisition, but to quote myself:

IIRC Rios is a player KW has pined for, for quite awhile. This may also have been a move to block the Tigers – who may have been looking to shed Magglio and replace him with Rios. It strengthens the Sox this season and prepares them for next season, as Dye & Thome could both very well be seeing their final seasons with the Sox.

If in fact Quentin’s foot (plantar fasciitis) is fine and I suspect it’s not as that condition takes ages to heel then I suspect that there will be a sudden rash of guys to the DL – thanks for The Catch Dwayne Weiss, now fake an injury. They will probably rotate Rios around the OF – spelling mainly Quentin & Pods and occasionally Dye.

I like the move. It improves the Sox defensively and preps them for next year. Dye may very well be on his way out or making his way to DH. Dye’s had a great run with the Sox. And I remember several Cubs fans mocking the signing of Dye – ‘Dye is washed up and on the decline and you know that Jeromy Burnitz is better than Dye…’

Ugh...

Are White Sox fans really disgracing baseball history by referring to Weiss’s play as “The Catch?”.

Please say that’s just a little creative license that you’re putting in there to anger the baseball gods and not a fanbase-wide movement?

i believe theres a sign in the cell that says "The Catch"
If that's the case...

That makes me want to vomit. Can we get Bud to censure them or something?

What's better than syrup of ipecac...
Ugh…Are White Sox fans really disgracing baseball history by referring to Weiss’s play as "The Catch?".

In that historic game it was the catch without a doubt.

If you’re concerned about angering the baseball gods, you might want to talk with Cubbie marketeers about this one.

December 2004 Topic in the Cubs newsgroup: "Dye to the Sox...hahaha"
The typical White Sox player…perfect for them, average injury prone player. I cant help but laugh - “MaggotFarm”

My thoughts exactly. - Al Yellon

Who’s had the last laugh?

Hey Crawdad.

I was singing the praises of KW and Reinsdorf. No one has been able to argue with me as of yet.

nothing = an assload of $ in his contract
Soooooo, lemme get this straight:

The White Sox 4th OFer is about as good as our starting RFer? Right? Rios is one of the best defensive OFers in baseball, his WAR since 2004 is higher, and they produce about the same H/R/HR/RBI/BA? Man, I AM bitter.

who are you saying is there 4th OF

Rios will probably start in CF

Well surely not over Dye, and Pods is have another solid year. And Quentin is back now.
Pods cant play CF

Rios can

Q, Pods and Rios will be in the OF.

Dye will DH. Kotsay will back up Konerko @ 1B and sub in and out in the OF. Wise is an afterthought.

Jim Thome would like to have a word with you...
Yeah, what the hell.
Thome's got one foot out the door.
not until the offseason though. There's still two months left for this season.
My point was that

Peavy and Rios are under Sox control for a while – not rentals.

That's a good point...

…but where does Thome fit in your lineup assessment for the rest of this year?

Good problem to have

An embarrassment of riches

but Rios is having his worst offensive season in 3 years (94 OPS+)

and his worst defensive season ever (-0.2 UZR/150)

I can explain less of Rios' decline.

His BaBIP is down significantly over his career averages, as is his speed, which may be related. He is hitting a lot more infield pop-ups (?!) and as for his defense, ya got me. I have no clue.

Wow Sox have now spent about 115 million in salary in the last two weeks

Does not look like the recession is hurting them.

Their just using the sound financial practices of one of their biggest fans.
government bailout of the white sox?
and universal contracts
quick, someone tell peter joseph!
Obama is a sox fan
BLou is a cub fan
fan?!?!?!?!!!???
but what I can't figure out..........

if someone likes how another team is doing and is hating how their fav team is doing.

Why not become a fan of that other team?

unless it's that you need the attention you get by saying off the wall things

But we all know that isn’t Blou problem as he has an active life outside of BCB…..

as he keeps telling us. :)

So should the Cubs brass just quit and go work for the Red Sox?

After they’ve openly praised the Red Sox model of doing things?

I positively love the way the Red Sox have run their entire organization the past five years – strength from a stocked minor league system to a championship ballclub but I’d never consider being a fan of the Red Sox as I’ve no connection to them. I hate Hendry’s free agency crutch and backloaded contracts because they’re bad ideas, but I’m not gonna just quit.

By your rationale I should just switch allegiances?

ummm

we were talking about BLou

he said someone, not BLou

I’m not defending anything that poster is saying as at this point it’s just getting off on attention and trolling.

But there has to be a little respect for being critical of one’s team while admiring another without being told to just go be a fan of another team.

no....

go above to SWL’s statement about BLou is a Cubs fan, I then replied FAN?!?!?!?!?!!??

and BTW

MCF is a lady.

LADY!??!
thank you tootie

SWL you are a smart ass hehehe

LADY when I'm with you I'm smiling...
he/she/it

lord if I know….

thats ok

I don’t live here this season. Im more of a vistor… so I guess there would be a variety of peeps who won’t know me.

She for the record said that.

Jockey for the record although I’m not here nearly as much as I use to be…

I’ve never seen you rout against the Cubs. Nor do I see you or tootie ever saying something and being both wrong and then telling someone they are an ass or my personal fav Go pound sand

or ignoring people when

blatantly wront

give it some time

I’m sure I’ve been wrong and spouted off before – or will. I just try not to make it a habit and most certainly don’t enjoy it.

;)

ALthough I have tried to use go pound sand IRL

and it just didn’t work, I started to giggle.

Did you read my second post???

I directly said BLou in that one.

nope

i missed it. My bad. Thought you were speaking in generalities which is why I replied to your first.

Not interested in stirring up a hornet’s nest here, so i’ll probably just buttowski now, especially since you’re talking about someone else.

That doesn't make any sense.

It’s completely reasonable to admire another team. I like the way the White Sox do stuff, for that matter. Hendry has made mistakes. I think KW (and, probably more accurately, Reinsdorf) do a great job running that team.

dude

follow along the thread……;

before you go accusing me of something.

I apologize for not using his name…. I thought it was obvious who I was talking about. Obviously it wasn’t.

Reading is for losers

as spoken by the great Steve Dahl

6/$60M is money
that's actually a really good move!

SOUR GRAPES ON ME!

I really hope Aramis

gets better soon.

Good luck tonight Gorzo.

Accompanying caption song:

Fly Like An Eagle by Seal

Is that a remake of the Steve Miller Band song?

or did Seal just rip off the title…

Going by memory..

…i think Seal did a cover of “Fly Like An Eagle” for the Space Jam soundtrack.

I wonder of the Rockie chix

get as moist over their de la rosa as the Trixies pining over their lost loves.

Pedro to start for the Phillies this Wednesday @ Wrigley

It will be interesting to see how well he pitches. Of course, I hope the Cubs light him up…

I've got tickets for that one

I’ll be ready for a long night with heavy bullpen usage

Cinci just took two out of three from the Giants...

It sure would be nice if they could do the same in St. Louis. It’s a three game series there right?

More importantly, a Cubs win tonight would be real nice. 5-5 sounds a lot better than 4-6.

maybe cy young lehr will shutdown the cards
Any one think we have a chance of going after Guzman for the Nats

he cleared waivers could help us at 2b

He'll cost 8 million dollars....I doubt it.
boston might get him
I know Boston is interested

and i haven’t heard anything about cubs interest at all I was just having wishful thinking and seeing if anyone else had same thoughts

The White Sox are complete idiots.

The just took on Alex Rios’ contract, 60 million until 2014, and the guy is OPSing .744, 59 points LOWER than Milton Bradley. Kenny Williams is an idiot.

I dunno

if I would call him an idiot. He is trying to get a guy who was a very good player for nothing he is taking a chance

i wouldnt say taking on his monstrous contract is "nothing"
Sorry....

60 M is not nothing

Do you think Milton Bradley is a very good player?

Because he has better numbers.

I do actually

I think he had a horrid first half of the season but, yes I think Milton bradley is a good baseball player and has a great on base percentage and may have found his niche with this cubs team finally

Oh, I think Bradley is a great player, honestly. I just wouldn't pay him 60 million until 2014.
Hmmm.....

Kenny Williams is a gambler who very rarely makes mistakes of consequences. Name one prospect he has ever traded away in his deals over the last 9 years that has gone on to amount to a hill of beans in the majors. Also, Williams has $40 million coming off the books next winter in the form of Thome, Dye, Contreras and Dotel. To go along with the $30 million plus he smartly shed last winter in the form of Vasquez, Swisher, Crede, Cabrera and Uribe.

White Sox won a World Series Championship. Until the Cubs can replicate that feat then it is MIGHTY ridiculous to go mocking a franchise that has great ownership, a great front office and a great manager that wins.

Dammit I love the White Sox..
Chris Young.

Hit a HR off Rich Hill in game 3 of the 2007 NLDS. Thats more than a hill of beans. Any other questions?

But that was off a 2 pitch pitcher...so it only amounts to a hill of rice at the most.
Would that be the same Chris Young who is currently hitting below the Mendoza line????
You said a hill of beans.

I gave you your answer. You were wrong.

You've fallen for the oldest trick in his bag.
tricksey hobbitses!
So you're defending a ballplayer who is hitting .194 ??

Javier Vazquez for Chris Young was solid move by Kenny Williams. And this year Vazquez netted Tyler Flowers from Atlanta, who is the number one prospect in the Sox system now that Beckham has been promoted.

But thanks for playing our game.

Your game is to bait and switch, and to equivocate.

You were wrong. Sorry bud.

And you are a nutbag

Chris Young sucks. Nuff said. In 9 years of being White Sox GM not once has Williams traded away a prospect who has gone on to have a good career. Not once.

But you didn't say that.

You said a hill of beans. A HR in the NLDS is more than a big of beans. I knew your logic blew, or should I say blou, but wow. Admit you’re wrong, pal.

Might want to adjust the pipe cleaner attenas stickout out of your tin foil beanie

Chris Young sucks. End of subject.

You don't run anything, this subject isn't over.

Chris Young> a Hill of Beans, and also a Hill of Rich, as I’ve proven. Admit you are wrong.

I'll leave it to Hawk and Ozzie to make a mockery of the White Sox, thank you
Cannot argue with that

White Sox are not my team, but I respect the teams that they put together. In that park Rios will play an above average CF/RF and hit about 30 – 35 HR’s a year. It is a quality move.

30-35 HRS?!?

His career average is 16 HR’s, and he’s never hit more than 24. He hit 15 last year. Why the hell would he hit 30-35?

Because Kenny Williams will tell him to.
Also, he traded Nick Masset for Ken Griffey.

Masset has been a darn good reliever for the reds.

Would that be the same Reds who are currently 12.5 games out of first place????
So a reliever can't be good on a bad team?

Heath Bell must suck…

Two Words

Joakim Soria

Miles and Heilman for Soria, straight up
Does trading Keith Foulke for Billy Koch count?

It was in December of 2002 so I don’t know if Kenny was in charge then.

he was in charge then
BLou will most likely point out that Foulke wasn't a prospect when he was traded for Koch.
Talk about moving the goalposts, right?
I'm going through the White Sox transaction log (I love research)

and here’s one…

7/18/04: Acquired OF Carl Everett and cash considerations from Montreal in exchange for minor league RHP Jon Rauch and RHP Gary Majewski.

I’ll let you know when I find more.

It won't matter...

He’s going to simply tell you whoever you find are/were not good players and that you’re wrong. You are wasting your time.

maybe he just enjoys the research
OK...but he should know ahead of time that it's going to be a fruitless endeavor...

if he thinks it’s going to prove anything to BLou.

true.......

I can’t imagine needing attention that badly for this many years. That’s just out there.

I do enjoy the research

helps kill time until first pitch.

Anyway, here’s another one: 12/13/05 Acquired INF Rob Mackowiak from the Pittsburgh Pirates in exchange for LHP Damaso Marte

Marte has been bad in the Bronx, but he was pretty good in Pittsburgh in 2006 and especially 2007.

This isn't PITTSBURGH!
yeah....

he was talking about the Major Leagues

Anybody else picture Harvey Weinstein/Weingard?

Good point

I didn’t want to get too current, as it is tough to say how a prospect pans out in 2-4 years.

I didn’t go through this because I think Kenny Williams is a bad GM. I think he’s a very good GM whose made more than he’s missed. Is he a perfect GM who gets EVERY move right? No. That guy doesn’t exist.

Take Boston, a very well-run franchise. Even they’ve made mistakes (Renteria, Clement and the 100 million dollar bag of suck that is Daisuke)

what a great GM.
I don't know about all that.

The Cubs have made the playoffs as many times as the Pale Hose this decade, and honestly, while I’m taking nothing away from their World Series win, isn’t the measure of a well-run franchise that the team is in a position to contend for a championship more often than not? If the team chokes when their moment arrives, I don’t see how that can be laid at the feet of the GM.

If Doug Eddings had gotten the call right in Game 2 of the ALCS, and the Sox had gone on to lose the game and later the series, that wouldn’t have been KW’s fault. Just like it wasn’t Hendry’s fault his guys forgot how to field the ball last year, or that Alex Gonzalez muffed a routine DP ball in ’03.

Using their (sorta) recent success in the postseason as a barometer of greatness for the White Sox must mean that the Yankees are dog feces, because they haven’t won a title since Clinton was President. In fact, I’d rate ‘05 as a great year for the Sox, but for consistently fielding a winning team that plays the game right on a mid-market budget, I’d rank the Twins ahead of the White Sox.

BTW

your user name, sir, is an epic win.

No, he's a RIVERBOAT GAMBLER!!!
reply fail....

this is in response to Theriod

83 wins

…and the ship be sinking.

So glad your still happy.
BLou posting

without it being directly after a loss? Will he stick around for a game thread if the Cubs are doing well?

We all know the answer to that one
He almost NEVER gets involved in a gamethread.
They're too highbrow for me....
he obviously has a full life

and would not have time for that

Well, shiiiiiiiiit.

I don’t, I’LL BE THERE!

Anything Under 87 Wins...

and the Cubs won’t have any reasonable chance of making the playoffs.

3756 posts

…and the beat hasn’t changed.

That Doesn't Count...

the posts made as MDBNIU.

also as BM
and wasn't there another one in between there?
Lineup's up

cst_cubs Lineup vs. rare LHP: riot, milt, lee, fox (3b), soto, sori, baker, fuld, gorz

My god.
what?

you like the fail that seems imminent? (not that it is, that’s why they play the games….)

Just not the offensive juggernaut I envisioned when 2009 started.
Yipee a Fuld sighting
Would be nice to see Soto get back on track tonight

17 hits was great yesterday, we just need more RUNS.

Better Defense

That would help the Cubs a lot, too. They haven’t fielded well in Colorado.

they are worse then not well it has been awful
you have officially lost your mind lou!
I like it

Milton, Lee, and Riot are the top 3 of the lineup in OBP (ignoring Gorz’s 4 PA and Fuld’s 30)and Fox, Sori and Baker have had good power this year.

One of these day's I'm gonna make a list of every damn time MLB starts baseball games at.

Another reason MLB is run by douchebag idiots. 740 pm? WTF.

MLB is like the cable company....the game will start sometime between 1:00pm and 7:45pm
Severe thunderstorm warning in Denver until 12:00

according to Twittermeyer

yippee
I'm here in Denver

and the weather is perfect. Every afternoon we have “scattered” thunderstorms, but it looks pretty dry outside this afternoon. Nothing to worry about…

Ok, BCB, what's your oper/under for Cubs runs tonights

with this, uh, interesting lineup?

I’ll take 7.

'scuse me, OVER/ under
You're setting the line?
"Mortimer, Mr. Valentine has set the market..."
"Well done, William.

Very well done."

trading places reference, +5 pts. well done, sir
I'm taking the under.

Very uninspired ball lately.

I also say under :(
If the Blue Jays can do this to Alex Rios, why can't the Cubs dump Aaron Miles?

Give him to the Padres… they might want his expertise

then who do the cubs fans have to hate?
Uh, Milton Bradley, duh.
too easy..
Aaron Heilman's "fan" club

would like a word

that settles that

get it done jimbo

We will still have one Aaron too many.
Yep

Are you a member of the Just say to No to Aaron’s fanclub?

There's a club?

I can’t imagine it’s very exclusive.

No it isn't

someone (maybe nij?) has signture line saying that…

and i was in a pregame thread the day Miles was activated…. So I decided to start a club. No dues, and no it isn’t exclusive

You may have made a mistake on that last word there... ;-)
that implies

that someone wants Aaron’s services

I watched him legging out the triple the other night

and initially thought “damn, he’s fast,” but then realized that it was an illusion – he just takes two strides for every one stride a grown-up makes

I love the sox. I think Ozzie is hot. Damn what I would do that.

StuScotteye earlier in thread – " Hey Crawdad. I was singing the praises of KW and Reinsdorf. No one has been able to argue with me as of yet."

Hmmm…Who Cares???

Apparently you do.

There’s a reason it wasn’t addressed to you.

and yet on a blog for all to see...
What's your beef with me?

Simmer down, pot roast.

heeheh

pot roast

eheheh

he doesn't have a beef...

I think he’s just pointing out an obvious fact…….

Over my head, apparently.

What’s the obvious point? Can we not discuss baseball en toto, or is this strictly a Cubs board? As I’ve said befire, I’ve been here a long while, but as a different screen name. I’m a HUGE Cubs fan.

It just seems to me that some are so easily threatened on this site

no you addressed someone specific

he said he didn’t care.

You then thought he had a beef w/ you

His point that it is a message board… other people might comment on somehting you say to someone specific and not to get your panties in a bundle

NOT QUESTIONING YOUR FANHOOD.

Please don't start the Cubs fans are threatened by the Sox

No, the Sox fans are threatened by the Cubs. Enough of that in the media way overblown. Don’t care to see that here. Sox are a good organization, lots of respect. Chicago is lucky ro have two good orgs on town. Would rather stick to the Cubs here, as it is a Cubs blog. My opinion.

Yeah I can see that, and I totally agree that

Sox fans are totally preoccupied with the Cubs. Little brother syndrome.

same with bandwagon brewer fans

The ones that have been brewer fans all their lives don’t seem to be. At least in my experience that is what it seems to be.

Yes, but it does go both ways sometimes.

We have more than enough to argue about in house. That’s my point, again, my opinion.

That's what I'm saying - I wasn't arguing

and didn’t mean to crap in anyone’s Cheerios. Just making a point

How about the Cubs just go ahead and win tonight???
+1

Lemme buy you a beer…

Bud please. No, no, make it an Old Style!
Atta boy -

but only if you bring that chick in your avatar

I like pot roast.

With lots of peas.

my mom use to put lots of peas, carrots and potatoes in hers
Connie's has great pot roast.

Used to get it all the time @ the location in Lisle on Ogden Ave.

Ya. No beef, see Madison Cub Fan's repsonse, she's correct.
did you grow up in MI?

I see you are both Cub/Packer fan.

Along w/ pot roast did you have tator tot casserole?

wow you've amused me twice in one thread MI
I work hard for the money.
and Go Cubs, we need a W tonight!!
gah...

now I’ve got a song stuck in my head.

I didn't until you pointed that out

grrr to tootie

Little OT

I rarely ever see webgems (as I don’t have cable/ dish etc) but over the weekend Cedano had one for the Pirates

nothing is ever off topic here @ BCB
ESPECIALLY IF IT INVOLVES ADAM LIND!!!!
I think that happened on my bcb sabbitical
coupla weeks ago

search Eric Hanna

BOY IT SURE IS LINDY OUT THERE
do you mean "Triple Lindy"?

WELCOME TO THE LINDY CITY OF CHICAGO
Geeze...

Lou seemed pretty exasperated during the pre-game interview. Talked about how getting healthy seems almost impossible, and how the next two weeks will tell a lot about what’s going to happen. He didn’t seem too confident about much really.

Yeah he seemes exasperated.

Like he was tired of talking abiut Z; and specifically pointing out that his MRI hasn’t shown anything wrong with his back in a long time

Personally I think Lou's been tired most of the year :(
Think this season is it for him, win or lose?

That’s been a hot topic on radio lately.

probably

it’s gotta be a frustrating year for him.

I was talking to a friend about that...

Yeah I think so. But I wonder if Ryno is ready for major league managing yet?

sign Trammel or Brenly for a 2-3 year contract

and try to get Ryno in there as one of the coaches.

HOLY SHIT!
what is it
That ballhawk & I were thinking the exact same thing

at the same time

Well, I'll take the Holy side of that - you can be the Shit... ;-)
And the managing merry-go-round continues

The Cubs will never win anything if they keep changing managers ever few years.

No but Brenly is

And Trammel has experience

Lou does seem absolutely exhausted
Of course Lou's exhausted

He had to sprint from the dugout all the way to second base yesterday for that argument.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090809&content_id=6335104&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

“I took a nap,” Piniella said. “I didn’t watch the whole game. Usually when I get thrown out, I let my bench coach manage.”

he should be well rested after that nap though

Took a nap.

He’s already checked out this season. That doesn’t inspire me at all.

in his defense, i wouldnt want to watch that game either
That's what I did late in that game too
that call was absolutely horrendous
DO WE HAVE A THREAD YET?
It's on the main page

I can’t figure out how to post a link, or I’d hook you all up – sorry

sonofa......

You know……sometimes i do think were cursed. Is there anyone else on the friggin team that wants to get injured??? Just asking……get it over with NOW!!!!
Save me the cardiac arrest in september…….

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