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Overflow Thread 3: Cubs vs. Phillies, Tuesday 8/11, 7:05 CT

From Monday's game.

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i love me some me!!
you watched the TO show at all?

its actually really entertaining and heartwarming.

yeah i completely agree.
especially the part with his dad
yeah

that was unexpected

I didn't watch but I don't think I can believe him as both genuine and sane

when he cries in a postgame conference about people criticizing Tony Romo, after he bashed Jeff Garcia and Donovan McNabb in both of his previous stops.

I'm biased though

I’ve always liked TO.

We're in O.T.

not T.O.

Nice picture choice

sheesh…

looks like a cheap rug.

even Santo wouldn’t wear that thing

It's his real hair...
As real as Burt Reynolds'
looks like dirty hat hair to me
Anyone else think Rothschild looks sorta like the pope...

when they’re not wearing their hats?

Both are German. Wonder if BOTH were Nazi youth like Popey Boy
okay

can we please NOT go there?

Hey - I'm Roman Catholic, too- but facts are facts
off limits here dude
The Pope looks like Emperor Palpatine
That is a great photo!
Makes me wonder if Rothschild suffers from hypertension
He suffers from having to take credit for the stupid crap this team does.

But I still love them.

Worst Extra Inning Photo Ever...
Reds now up 5-1

Hey Cubs you might be able to GAIN a game.

and thanks for jump
Jump around, get up and get down, Jump Jump Jump
HAHA

Brewers down 8!! I love it

Yeah, but to San Diego.

They’re playing like mad down there these days.

Who are all these AAA-players they’ve brought up?

And they're coming to St. Louis this weekend

Time to make up some ground!

That is true!

Reds have runners at the corners now!

And remember, they’re still only one up in the loss column.

Cubs Lose... I love it tooo
Caption: "Hello Larry"
Here we go Cubs!
Gameday is all f***ed up
yep

replay kind of killed it.

Tell me something I don't know!

I was having problems with it last inning, too.

why

is my game day showing a called strike above the batter’s head?

whew

thank god for the wells

Fonzie with the gallup trot....2 down
Need updates guys.

Game day is busted and my TV was busted up my Ninjas.

Saw blou earlier...left immediatley

Now something positive happened and figured he’d be gone

He's a Racist

Don’t mention him because he feeds off the attention.

how is he a racist
He's just a troll...

Wouldn’t call him racist…

See the way he harasses vermont?

He has on

several occaasions said racist stuff

alright...

I believe what sue says… :)

Yeah I was wondering that, too -

Why everyone calls him a racist

not everyone, just one that I can see
He made some comments about Bradley earlier that could be construed as racist . . .
or reply to him, huh?
Actually I think he hates Cub players

management and fans regardless of race, color or crede. He does tend to focus on Soriano, Bradley Geo and Dome but he also hates Gregg, Fonty, Dempster etc.

Lol...

Who’s heart jumped a little there, even knowing it wasn’t going out.

guilty

getting good wood after a tough at bat always makes me jump

Soriano in LF....

Had something to do with it.

Guzman deserves this win
Angel's pitched well and deserves to be the 8th inning set up guy (if not the closer) at this point..
he's not ready to close

still need to go gently on him… this is his first ever time pitching out of the ’pen.

now guz is perfect

MUWAHAHA

Easy Inning, LET'S WIN THIS THING!
1-3

end of 10

end this

I've just got one thing to say to you all

WIN THIS MOTHERFUCKING GAME!

End this damn game now...please.
with a WIN, right? ;)
it's the only way I want it to end
lets end this trainwreck!

VICCCTOORYY

Sori goes yard here?

Please.

Pretty Please?

Bradley and Sori heros on the same night.

Please?

This board just might explode
BLou's head would explode fersure
You're kidding right?

To think of all the threads that were written saying how those guys are done, and now they are, maybe the hero’s?

PERFECT STORM

All right, Cubs,

Score one run in this next inning!

Easier said than done
when gameday is down so is gamecast.
and mlb-tv...
WHAT!

THERE’S ONLY ONE OUT IN TOP OF 10 ON MLB.TV RIGHT NOW…

I heart Guz

Remember in Spring training when some folks wanted to cut him for Gaudin?

first pitch swinging morons
Let's get a walkoff!
muffin man = hero?
4th single of the night
hitting machine
3 for 3 with a walk?
4 singles and a K
Sori made an out

Didn’t see how :(

SORI pop out.
Can one of you do play by play?

Gameday is kinda off in zombie land still… and it would be really appreciated.

bakers hitting rocket singles
Baker - our 2nd best player - comes through again
Jeff Baker's Bat is ALIVE!!!!
Baker got on base with a single
4th hit of the game
AARON MILES PH

WTF ARE YOU DOING LOU

Chasing the pitcher

And then burning Miles? Pretty please?

Lou is an evil genious
MILES??????? WTF??????
baker single

one on, 2 outs

Oh holy Christ

That’s Aaron Miles’ MUSIC!

Does it sound like Jaws?
It sounds like the Hammers of Hell

crossed with Cyndi Lauper screaming while raping Bono

Sounds perfect
pitching change for miles
Aaron Miles to PH

I want what Lou is having, bartender.

Aaron Freaking Miles to Pinch HIt

and Manuel goes to the Pen

Aaron Miles PH????

Who else is on the bench??

fontenot and ramirez

Really

Aaron Miles?

Miles PH...

We’ll get ’em in the 11th.

HOLY SHIT

If Ramirez has breath in his body he should be batting here

Just had a cortisone shot...
Surprise bunt?
that would be Neif E ish
Better than Miles-ish
sweet aaron miles, onto the 11th we go.
Muffin man Yeah

This is Fuld chance to get DoggieStalker to explod with passion!@

can the Aaron Miles Fan Club please report in...
Here and taking notes.

Dammit Lou!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK, Scott Eyre pitching to Aaron Miles

Go kiss your spouses or significant others’ good night. The world is about to fold in on itself from sucktitude.

any right handed batters left on the bench?
Well, perhaps we'll ALL be surprised by the results...
Is Aramis Ramirez available?????
Dont think so

I dont think he even had a jersey on just the players coat

think about it .... if miles hits a walk off ... IT'S HAPPENING!?!?!?!?
Poo-holes went yard. 5-2 Reds.
Solos are OK...it's the 3 run jacks that kill you...
Ok now Lou isn't even trying anymore
Time to watch Miles take it deep!

It could happen right?

and monkey might fly out of my butt
Where's Jim Carey when you need him
No Jim Carry

Its Wayne’s World

Bruce Almighty

He made monkey’s come out someone’s butt, look it up

And monkeys might fly out of my butt
Stranger things could happen

Hell I found a woman that actual said yes when I asked her to marry me, so anything is possible

Ya know, if Miles wasn't here, Lou wouldn't be tempted/forced to use him...
Why change pitchers ?

Is Miles really worse batting righty ? Is that possible ?

ONE GOD%#!)(^%#PITCH
HWSBDFA'd FC 6-4

Inning over

You remembered!
Oh, I'm gonna promote that bad boy

Until it happens

he who should be dfa'd?
FIRST PITCH SWINGING MORON
Some nerve! Trying to steal Soriano's thunder!
Who didn't expect that...

Seriously.

Lou says

Not sure who should hit…I know lets asks my Magic eightball.

MOTHER FUCKING MUTT!!!
I FUCKING HATE AARON MILES

WHY GOD, WHY

because he sucks?
Miles out on the first pitch
Well, at least that was quick
ONE PITCH, SIT DOWN MILES

JEZUS CHRIST

What was Lou thinking there?

Where was Aramis Ramirez?

he had a cortisone shot
Yeah - to numb the pain
He just had a corisone shot
Loud noises!!

Loud noises!!

Lol

thats awesome cuz thats my sound for my text message and ESPN just came through sayin end of 10th

I swear to God that if Miles is still on this team next year

I might just take a pass and like, read books and shit next year.

Does that mean

you haven’t shit this whole year ?

I pee a lot
two words for you....

Fiber One

I have two words for Aaron Miles
FUUUUUUUUCK

YOUUUUUUUUUUU

You speak for many of us.
Wow

He really put everything he had into that one

id rather have fontenot PH

youre losing it lou

I'd rather have Zambrano swinging a damn telephone pole in a wheelchair
"Losing"? He lost it a while back
I hope that was the last of Miles in a Cub uniform
I'll buy drinks

if it is.

Let's take up a collection to buy him a ticket back to Iowa...I've got a fiver for it.
I will drive him back
I live in Iowa......please send him to Kansas City or Pittsburgh
+1
Fee Fi Fo Fit

Miles is a piece of…..

Sha-ving cream, be nice and clean….

Anyone who sucks as bad as Miles

should DFA himself for the good of the team and humanity in general.

really....what is the difference between Miles

and Neifi Perez…other than the roids

Amphetamines actually...

And I’d say that Miles is probably shorter.

DING DING DING

that is the correct answer

If the cubs lose this game ti's on Lou

I’m sorry but he’s clearly checked out!

I agree generally

but two out and runner on first and no particularly good hitter on the bench kind of limits your options but he did pick the worst one he could but lets not act like he hit to a DP with bases loaded and one out.

I hate to admit it, but you may be right

Aaron “the albatross” miles doing what he does best.

just terrible

Lou must be napping again

All the guys he had on the bench...

And he picks Aaron Miles?!?!?!?!?

Note to Lou: I'm willing to take Miles place on the team for a prorated rookie contract for the end of the season...

…or less….

uh oh

gregg against utly howard and RAUUULLL

wtf first pitch miles first pitch? You will never happen
Come on Lou

Just run Heliman out there to lose it for us you old old old person.

Why not Marshall for 3 lefties
I'd rather of had Koyie Hill take that PH
in hindsight, guzman could have taken the at bat and gone back out
players available on the with a higher OPS+ than Miles

Fontenot
Hill
Gorzo

I actually have a friend who's a huge Cardinal fan...

…who told me last January how bummed he was about losing Miles and how he was his favorite player last year. Now I seriously wonder if he was messing with me and, if so…well played sir-I almost bought in.

lets go GREGG...

please pitch good

"please pitch well..."
Howard FO9
MB with the nuce shoestring catch
gregg... you are so beautiful ... to me
Rember when the cubs had a 2 run lead and

Harden had a Perfect game going?

'twas a whole game ago...
That was in like april, right?
a shoestringer for Milton!
Nice catch, Milton
Ibanez FO7 H

Mid 11 3-3

hop-less is nice
There was a half-hop

A skip, maybe

End it-NOW!!!!
Flyout to Fonzie, Cubbies coming to bat for the win
Reds ... don't blow this please
Okay, can we win this game now????
Y'know, I bet I could take Aaron Miles in a fistfight
I think I could too.
LOL

easily, at that

Okay, enough drama Cubs

let’s win this one and go to bed happy

Well done Gregg!

You get a gold star for pitching well in a non save situation.

I still like Gregg
Me too.

He’s not great but he’s good and I’m happy he’s on our team.

Any old run will do, please
channelling Jack Brickhouse?
Phillies haven't had a hit since the 7th inning...
Good bullpen

Nice bullpen

Except for you, Carlos

Bradley with the Walk Off Hit?

Would Wrigley Chant his name then?

I'd have his baby
To the end of the line
Okay then, I'll take your wife's cooking afterwards.

It’ll be in good hands.

She's so tired from lugging my spawn around in her stomach

that she hasn’t cooked in weeks. We eat cans, packages and Chile’s now.

Bullshit!

You shared your dinner with us the other night.

Damn it, you remember what I post!
Call me Crawdad, Doctor Crawdad.
omg i can hear the chant : bradstain! bradstain! bradstain!
Dome Ks
damn, that was a hanging slider he could've murdered
That looked a little up, ump
As did the first pitch
come on theriot

dont pull the ball… or be a FPSM

If Riot walks us off

I will say nothing mean about him for a solid week. Promise.

Carry on, Allie
damn

i was almost looking forward to being nice.

Please say Theriot left his power socks in the dresser

We just need a baserunner!

let's go riot

get on base, don’t try to end it yourself

too late

I like Theriot better when he doesn't swing like Pujols
bradders bradders bradders bradders!!!
a tad high?

this guy’s strike zone has suddenly expanded in extra innings. a hooker by the hour?

Keeping it unclutch

It’s not the east of the west side. It’s the north side.

This could be magical
Why is THERIOT swinging for the fences?

Why?

Despite gerenally tearing it up, Milton doesn't have a HR in the 2 spot

yet…..

3 feet short

DAMN!

good time for one.
And he still doesn't.
YOU SUCK VICTORINO!!!!!
:dumps imaginary beer on his head from imaginary front row bleacher seat:
MB FO8

End 11, 3-3

Dang...he gave it a ride
So damn close
Oh man...

Awww Jeeze…. SHIT!!!!

in play, outs

damn

damn

gameday has that INSIDE the wall.

he caught it at the wall
he was in the ivy a bit
crap. breeze off the bath tub
I really hate screwing around with this Phillies team

They have the potential to put up 6 runs any half-inning

Im with ya

on that

i miss having the potential to do that
What Happend?
bradley hit it 2ft away from being a HR to left center
MB gave it a ride

Victorino caught it with his back almost in the ivy

Bite me Belmonte
That would have been awesome...
I'm really not enjoying MLB.TV being 1-2 outs behind the live game.
Switch out of Hi-def
That should work, I'm seeing it pretty close to live on MLB TV...basic as it is.
Of course Eyre was SO bad

He went in Lou’s dog house got DFAd and got a World Series ring. Of course we did not need a LOOGY this year did we ?

god damn it gregg
Had to happen eventually

DFA! DFA!

Oh come on. You know I like Gregg. I just wanted to get that in before anyone else said it.

FUCK

in the basket

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Some Phil

Solo shot

FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK
Stinky Ben!!
Oh, Jesus Christos!

Cue BLou … again!

LOL

just LOL.

God clearly hates the Chicago Cubs.

Not sure why, but he does.

Enjoy Blou for the next 24 hours kids.

If God was real...
hes a sox fan

its an awkward thanksgiving dinner…

You are starting to rank near him you know
Me? The only person I have attacked is the Racist Blou.

And Lou Pinella…but really he kind of has it coming for this game.

Sorry, Just not happy

Ron: "Oh, man......."
Why the crap does Gregg give up so many HRs?!?!?!
Why does this team not hit well with RISP?

It’s a big mystery this year.

just over the basket...man
Joe Morgan was right

alot of Fransiscos HR’s are basket aided

Joe Morgan was right

first time for everything, eh…

My thoughts

This Loss is on Lou

Gregg has a dead arm and he makes him pitch after sitting for 15 minutes.

Fucking stupid. Just fucking stupid!

Oh really...

Pinch hitting Miles earlier was worse.

it's not a loss yet...
Aaron Miles...

Sticking with Marmol too long…

Using Marmol period...

But we all know my feelings on that subject.

Well not sure who else you could use
are you kidding if anyone is to blame for the loss

its this shitty offense.

alright

off to watch the comeback via gameday

this thread will probably get worse before its over.

Gregg is not good for more than an inning

but so little choice there anyway.

sometimes it's just shits and giggles
and sometimes just the former...
milton bradley

you did good, champ

one more out Stinky Ben
why is he called stinky ben
Long story.
i have time
I need another Boddington's.
ugh

I cant drink that, and I drink pretty much everything besides the crappy light beers

It's only my favoritest beer in the whole wide world.
to each their own

I prefer Guinness myself

Ya

cuz here soon we will into the 13th or in the post game thread

One of the posters

on here went ot school with a guy that looks like Gregg and his name was Ben and she and her friends called him Stinky Ben and we all thought it fit Gregg so we started calling him that.

I'm not BLou

but its getting harder to shake off the funk of slump, a 4-6 road trip followed by a game like this, ugh…

the funk is starting to turn into a nasty stank
This game is VERY frustrating

with all the missed scoring chances but much better than most of the games in the last week or so.

Out hit them, but can't outscore them
I just wish the Cubs could be like the Yankees

and have the other teams in the league drop their drawers and bend over for them every day.

While we're at it...

I wish I had a beautiful trophy wife, a collection of nice sports cars, a great mansion and a private jet.

I wish

for a win tonight, nothing more.

We were wishing for unrealistic stuff here

A win is not quite up there.

Not so sure about that
Werth K

Mid 12, 4-3 Phils

Gregg gets out of it

LETS FUCKING GO CUBBIES

and when we win

he’s rewarded with a W. It’s just not right.

Come on Derrek

get on base

Can we score two runs now?
ben francisco can hit a basket HR

but MB cant hit a shot to left center… cruel world

Mother Nature and her hot air from the north
classic cubs baseball right there.

who didn’t see it coming?

Good thing football season is almost here
Hear Earl Bennet looks great
Phillies have 4 runs on three hits,

we have 3 runs on 10 hits. That’s pretty ridiculous.

THAT

IS RIDICULOUS

It's absolutely disgraceful
more classic cubs baseball.

it’s a tradition.

not with our hitting with RISP
our hitting with RISP is ridiculously bad
check out the box scores from the last two days

uglier.

this

makes me cry at night

OK, rally #2 coming up!
At least Lou can't use Miles this inning
are you sure he won't dress him up in Fonte's clothes or something?
Who do Phillies have left in the pen?
Rally Underpants!!!

Who’s will me?

"will" you?
Already got mine on

when did whitey tighties become brown and loosies?

mine are too bunched

after this goddamn circus

I just took off my pants!
Durbin in to pitch
Former Lugnut!
Going from bad to worse

looks like the Cards are making a comeback on the Reds

ok this guys coming off the DL

lets turn him into chris sampson!

29 pitches for Gregg....

means he’s not available to pitch tomorrow.

Who will close?

Guz?

Nope 25 pitches?

Marshall? He’s a lefty he can only face lefties/

Grabrow? See Marshal.

I know.

Marmol!

I hate Lou Pinella!

As do I my friend, as do I
If this keeps up, they may just fire Piniella and...

Nah. They’d never do something that sensible.

You guys

are unreal.

Piniella has forgotten more about baseball than you’ll ever know if you live to be 110.

Dear NBF

You are defending Lou because:

A.) Don’t know Better
B.) Just want to be argumentative
C.) Really want to start crap and find buttons to push
D.) Alcohol

Can you answer?

No really I’m asking.

D-Lee flies out
i hate this wind
the wind had nothing to do with that one
I really hope we win this somehow...

cuz Shark pitching tomorrow…is most likely a loss…and then we face Lee thursday…

god a 2-0 cupcake and he hits medium flyball
let me channel my inner hawk strengths and get the Cubs two runs!-
Crap

one gone

be a hero fox

all we need is a basehit

2-0 count

and a lazy fly ball

darn.

make him throw a strike
Lets go JAKE!!!

be the hero!

get on chad durbin's twitter and tweet him something weird!
PR fontenot for fox
why not pinch run a pitcher, who's actually fast

and then you can use Fontenot as another bat if you need to?

Lou’s mismanaging knows no ends

Do we have any pitchers that are actually fast?

Besides Harden, who’s already been used? And do we want to risk them on the paths?

I'd walk Fox to get to Soto too
Geo? Please? Pretty please?
that the kind of ab we needed from Derrek
A big fly here will make Sue

have an “O” face.

a standing "O"?
O For the Long One!
be a hero soto

act like its that brewers game in sept last year!

c'mon geo

time to be a hero

I come to you JoBu

I stick up for you
if you no help me now I say fuck you JoBu

G.E.O.

Game
Ending
Offence

spelling fail

-5 BCB points

Chases the high cheez

boo

Geo Ks

1 on, 2 out

Wow good swing soto

that was only helmet high…

All on Sori

let’s go Sori please

...

soriano = hero?

ps STOP SWINGING AT HIGH HEAT

Soto just can't lay off the high cheese
Keeping it unclutch
Sori 0-4 with a SF and RBI...
It kills me when guys swing at pitches out of the zone
Reds just booted an easy grounder to first, and the Cards are within 1

with runners on first and second and 1 out in the bottom of the ninth

come on fonzie!

RALLY CAP TIME

Sori is hero=

BLou head explodes

Math I like

please, fonzie

pleas

Cards

only down 1 run with 1 on and Albert at the plate

They literally threw a run away
Sori FO9

Game over

well fuck

Cubs lose

Thus Endeth It All

puke

holy shit reds! error in front of Pujols!
If I could somehow channel my anger into victory

the Cubs would never lose.

wow...Fuck this bullshit

I am out to cali for 4 days, hopefully when I come back we are on a winning streak…but damn we suck hard.

Cards down 1 with 2 out runner on 1st
God

don’t let the Cards win

I hate to be a pessimist here

So I won’t say what’s on my mind right now.

Don't worry Blou will do it for you
Unfortunately, he would

I’m no longer a Kevin Gregg supporter either.

Everything's the Worst - Liz Lemon
Reds almost blow another play

2 out, runner on first, Cards down 1

cardinals get some absolute gifts.
we have the most unclutch team ever
unclutch

I like that.

Ramirez gets hurt, and we're right back to being a crappy team

I understand he’s a good player, but for the love of god, can NO ONE step the F up?

Nope

Now if the Cubs had managed to land A-Rod…

Nah. That’s fantasy land.

well sign him for 8 years

when he is 39 years old

Sphincter-itis

The team’s collective butthole puckers at the sight of adversity. Without ARam, there’s been a lot of stupid at-bats and playing not to lose.

Which falls on the freaking general manager

Look. I realize that there are some guys you can’t take out of the lineup, but it’s not like Ramirez is a future Hall of Famer. Lou wanted Ibanez and they got Bradley instead. Bradley’s done a lot to help this team, but not what they signed him for.

I'm not sure you can blame the manager for stupid at-bats...
General manager

That means Jim Hendry. I can blame the guy for his drunken offseason.

Phillies win with 4 run on three hits

Three hits.

Three God damn hits!

That's obscene.
not even many walks.

just efficiency vs. the cubs, the most inefficient team in the league.

except for the one innning where they got 3 walks and a hit batter

thanks Carlos

getting a run without getting a hit is pretty efficient.

giving up a run without giving up a hit is pretty inefficient.

Marmol

put that many on.

Not. Good.

2-8 with RISP.

That too.

And one gust of wind that kept MB in the yard.

and Lou just checking out.

Really, how plain can it be

The Cards are finding ways to win and never quitting while the Cubs are finding ways to lose and rolling over. It’s pretty simple right now.

crap. only 3 hits given up

this one really hurt

team is shitty.
I would not say that

I say they lack fire. Not a shred or spark (except Zambrano & sometimes Bradley)

they are also shitty.

holes everywhere. terrible fundamentals. walk the stadium. shitty. hendry needs to go.

as long as he takes Lou with him
I'll say it

things are looking extremely bleak

There is nothing positive about this game

except for Bradley and Harden. The deserve to eat the clubhouse spread tonight.

The others … let them chip in for Pizza Hut

I wish this team would

stop being a prick tease and decide to either play consistently well or consistently like shit.

i believe this game has summed up the entire season nicely
Marmol

needs to sit in the naughty corner

he needs to go sit in Iowa

he is NOT helping this team right now, and consistently sucking in the bigs isn’t going to help his future any

he needs to clear waivers to do that
Someone would pick him up and he'd be the next Bruce Sutter
Reds win
atleast this day completely suck
and nothing changes.
except the cubs could absolutely

not afford to miss the opportunity to pick up a game on the cards, especially a game they should’ve won easily. and they have two more with the phillies. i fully expect a sweep.

If they manage to lose by

giving up 4 hits, yeah, absolutely.

I expect

you to go soak your head.

I didn’t like tonight’s game, either, but are you this manic depressive about everything?

this game starts with marmol .... you just can't walk 3 guys everytime you go out there
it has been our bullpen MO for the past 2 years

why should they change now?

Bingo

I honestly don’t care for Carlos Marmol for that reason. He’ll walk the guys and Gregg will give up the home runs. What a horrible pen you’ve constructed, Hendry.

how often do we get to see a first pitch strike

by anyone in the bullpen? Very rarely.

agreed.

but this game is on the offense.

This is what we've come to

Praying the Reds hold on so we can stay 3 games back.

We have doing that for a while
Gregg is a CLOSER

and he always has had problems going more than an inning.

Phew

Cards lose too… guess we’re “still in it”….

What the hell did you see tonight that would make you think that?
Milton Bradley ... he's hella tight!
I was hoping

the quotes would denote my sarcasm

some good news i guess
Jesus Holliday just struck out looking

to end it.

so there’s that.

Of course the Cubs held the Phils to 3 hits and couldn’t pick up any ground so it all comes back to that

I have been swearing a great deal tonight.

I just want to say sorry. I’ve been drinking and if I offended anyone I do apologize.

Except to Blou…He’s a Racist!

Dude

No fucking problem

No more Gregg.

We should package him off to, well, somewhere.

Maybe Korea. Miles, too.

Gregg is not the problem

Marmol is.

Gregg not the problem?

Umm….you mean Captain Homerun?

Greg = 1ER 2IP
Marmol = 1ER 1IP

He's also a closer

and was forced to throw 2 innings tonight. Point is, that game doesn’t go into extras if Marmol could throw a strike.

and we don't lose, if Gregg doesn't serve up yet another tater
And we don't win either

They were not scoring.You don’t beat up on a player who is doing something you know he is really bad at ( pitching more than one inning was a big issue in Florida last year) .

you also don't excuse him because he's really bad at it.

This is a pretty pointless argument. I’m not saying the loss was Gregg’s fault, but he played a significant part in it. You really can’t deny that

well, I would like a huge paycheck

and only have to work for 10 minutes or so (and be crappy for the next 10)

Maybe it does

the game was 2-2 when Marmol came in. The Phillies wouldn’t have brought in Lidge in a 2-2 game in the ninth.

no kidding

Drew tell us how good he and Soriano are ?

hey

watch your mouth.

Marmol owns this loss. I doubt he doesn’t know that.

I also wish Lou

would stop throwing him out there every night in the 8th. It’s just not working right now.

I agree

I was going to say “something has to be done” but it’s not up to us. Couldn’t they put Marmol on the DL to get him some rehab time?

i guess, but who would pitch the 7th? heilman?
I don't know.

Heilman’s not consistent enough.

Grabow? Or maybe Marshall?

Grabow

Guzman. Marshall. Any of the 3, really

but but...

grabows a lefty!

Lou doesn't need

TWO loogys.

i know, im joking about lous use of marshall and bowtie
Rehab for what, drew?

Is he hurt? If he isn’t, what does he need rehab time for?

um, gregg is a mountain of suck.

at least marmol has upside. he’s still virtually unhittable his just needs better command. gregg can get beat even on his good nights. he’s just not very good.

Lack of clutch hitting and Marmol are the main reasons we lost tonight...

not Gregg

Greg
Gregg

is a perpetual problem; he gives up HRs in big moments.

He's the CLOSER

He only plays in big moments.

Gregg gave up YET ANOTHER homerun

 he might not be the goat, but he certainly contributed to the loss in a big way

tough loss

no way to package it.

Good on you, drew

I was afraid you were going to come here with some platitude…

what hurts the most

is that I told my kid he could watch the game literally seconds before Harden gave up the walk and then the HR. But if Marmol could have walked one less guy, we win this game.

so its all your fault :P
no

it’s the guy who came onto the board and said “Is Harden still throwing a perfect game” seconds before the walk and HR. :D

he was a cards fan, too...
My greatest hope

is that my son, who will born sometime during the NLDS, will become a Cubs fan in four or five years and get called a bandwaggoner because they have won two World Series’

I want my son to be concieved during the NLDS

BAM!

totally agree

real tough, that’s why Cub fans have thick skin!

Thanks Drew

I think this is not the night to sugar coat.

It’s a night to get drunk.

I hear ONEDEC is a good guy to party with. I’ll call him.

milton bradley and rich harden get golden stars

carlos marmol and gregg get lint

as well as the rest of our offense
They get lumps of coal in their stockings
Baker

had a nice night though

baker gets a star too

thanks

lou sounds pisssssed
Isn't past hid bedtime ?
he got a nap

during the game

I'm pissed too

that he’s still the manager

wonder who he

was talking to?

He should be mad at himself

No one else. He needs to go.

Pinella yelling at the media

Shut up, you fat old man

lol what is he saying
"You come up here and manage a team that loses 5 of 6

and see how you feel"

Hey, Lou, it’s how we feel every time we see Aaron Miles with a bat in his hand.

or Heilman in a game
I think we know how to feel

we’ve been waiting for this team to win all year. And all we hear is “What do you want me to do?”

I really really enjoy his playing the victim after every tough loss

THAT WAS COMPLETE SARCASM

At least I wouldn't manage by rote

and make the same exploding cigar moves time and again.

Hope it's bad enough to retire, Lou

Because the game has passed you by.

you're right. I think lou should move on right now... he's not really helping this team at all
Piniella is acting like a Lou-ser
I was calling for his job after last seaon's playoff debacle
Um beat you

I was calling for it last April

Wow

You want a cookie? I don’t have any, but I do have beer.

Didn't mean that in a harsh way

Just being serious there. I cut Lou slack last season until everything blew up in the playoffs.

Told this a lot but I lost it on Lou

When he used the ENTIRE bench in TIE road game that went extras in April of 08 To me this was the managing equivalent of Cedeno overunning on a walk. After that I realized just how bad he was at using the bullpen ( Eyre pitched pretty good tonight for a guy Lou thought was useless), the bench and ruled by cranky anger rather then trying to both kick as AND inspire players.

transcript please?
what's he yelling?

Is that on WGN.com?

well, it is the media's fault we lost tonight

and yesterday, and Sunday, and Friday.

Certainly he has no role in the losses

Teflon Lou

Nothing ever sticks to him.

Look, what do you want him do?
He's turning into Matt Millen

all pissy and whiny at the podium, pounding his fist and yelling “I wanna win, and I wanna win NOW!” If Lou’s not careful his credibility will disappear below the Mendoza Line.

When does the clubhouse just throw their hands in the air

and say, “Fuck It. Let’s Just play.”

There has to come a time where the players just get sick and tired of hanging on every single pitch and just want to play.

as I said early

this team has not fire.

but what I'm saying isn't about fire

it’s about just tossing away the pressure. I mean, just relax and stop worrying about it all.

i would like them to say,

Fuck it, let’s play like professionals.

that works for me, too
I like how you think

can I subscribe to your newsletter?

Reminds me of a quote I read in a book as a kid;

“Other teams won and made it look easy. The Cubs lost and made it look hard.”

3 stars of the game go to Bradley, Harden, Baker.

had to throw some hockey into this fray

I bet

the dump I’m about to go take can score more runs than this Cubs team.

first time I've laughed in a few hours...

thanks.

At least you'll be able to deliver when in RISP
hahaha, who says "You cannot polish a turd?"
Actually Mythbusters busted that myth last night

just saying

hahahahahaha

very cool

I'm really glad the Bears first preseason game is Saturday

I really need something to get my mind off of this.

Lous get mad tonight a the players when it:

He pulls Harden (who is pitching well ) at 87 pitches.

Lets Marmol stay in to face Utley, Howard with Grabrow warm in the pen.

Pitch hit’s Miles.

Lets Dome face a Lefty with Hill on the bench.

Pitches Gregg for two innings after recovering from a dead arm.

Yeah Lou it’s all there fault you F-ing coward!

Just leave. Just leave now!

Dome got on base.
The second time
Ah.

What ambrosia says then.

IF he pinch hits for Dome with Hill

who the hell plays center?

....

adam lind

OH YEAH I FORGOT WE GOT HIM IN TRADE

THANKS AGAIN ERIC HANNA

Well...

what is worse is that he did not get Grabow up until after Marmol walked Utley. Unacceptable….

he had a senior moment and forgot he had Grabow
the prince of darkness is a/k/a

satan; is that what your nomiker implies?? shameful…,

Yeah the Brewer's Satan.

much like Marmol was the Cubs Satan this evening.

I was drunk when I thought it up. It’s dumb…I know…I’m stuck with it…I’m dealing.

it's unchristian & evil

you should change your handle

oh christ

get over it. it’s just a handle, and he’s a good poster.

4 billion names times 1000 handles to pick

and the brewer troll troll goes satanic; yeah ok whatever

rule number one:

don’t bring religion to this site. it’s a baseball site. period.

brewer troll did

not me

he's not a brewers troll
I COMMAND YOU TO STOP CARING
I'm not a Brewer's Fan

I was trying to come up with a name that was the antithesis of a Brewer’s fan. Does the name do that…yes. Does it make it simple….no.

But if you had ever read a bible/learned to read you would understand that. I’m am done talking to you.

I was trying to come up with a name that was the antithesis of a Brewer’s fan

should have picked something simple like “intelligence” then

Dear Mr. Christ,

Yup. You are right (like you are most of time). Again I was under the influence when i set up my account.

Please forgive me.

BCPD.

i sense sarcasm
No Sarcasm

Just paying my respect to Mr. Christ.

:)

i over-reacted

i am sorry. don’t like your handle; but ultimately it is none of my beeswax. mea culpa,,

Then good on you!

After tonight I fighting pissed as well.

No worries!

alright.

do like we do in little league now. Shake it off, win tomorrow.

this team does play like a little league squad from time to time.
Y'know...

Little League World Series starts on Thursday too.

There's my drew

OK, I’m going to get these damn contacts out and watch the last 15 minutes of Colbert

look...

what else can I say?

:P

Swear kick and scream

If you do it then it will justify all the frustration and anger most of us are feeling.

Just once say something about this team frustrating you too.

Please.

where's my juicebox?
I brought carrot sticks, juice wasn't my job
Forget the carrots.

Just bring sticks. I’ll get the car, and we’ll go help escort Miles… to Iowa.

No matter, Drew's taking us all to Chuck E. Cheese
oh

HELL no. I’ve been there. Egad.

It's all we can do. See you then.
We do a lot of shaking it off.

Especially this season.

wish it could've come out better

the wild card/nl central is going to come down to the frickin’ wire…

pirates 7 rock stars 3

life doesn’t make sense anymore.

dogs and cats living together!
pirates beat the rox

and the nats beat the fish

life is cruel….

Check that scoreboard

The fish beat the Nats in 11 no less.

actually the fish beat the astros
Thank you

I knew they beat some team. Nats lost to Braves.

The Open Radio Feed is kind of fun

Judd scrambling to get his shit together

free mlb radio

is pretty neat.

whoever is making these roster decisions needs to go .... it's inexcusable
What, specifically, do you

not like?

samardjiza, not calling fox up earlier, miles, not sending hoff earlier
"Not sending hoff earlier"

What the hell does that mean? Not sending him down? I thought he was the guy who was going to kick DLee to the curb.

sending fuld down when hoff was hitting like .200 in that month and completely useless
but i think you're joking so.... nm maybe?
This game was like ________

(fill in the blank)

a bad case of chappy ass?
a lot of other games Lou badly mismanaged
a kick to the nuggets with a steel toed boot
a hooker that just wants to talk and cuddle all night
a rough break

we will keep going from here…

My marriage.

Started out well, ended like shit.

A lot of marriages are like that
The Chicago Cubs

Making Fans sad for over 100 years.

I would love to say I’m not frustrated or that I don’t care but I do.

But like all battered wives I still love the one that breaks my heart.

Cubs fans aren’t optimists they are masochists.

Try being a Saints fan

We’ve never won anything.

Yeah but really when have the Saints had hope?

You would think after 100 years the Cubs might get a break.

The season after Katrina was our best chance

There were a number of other years where the Saints could have done more, but Jim Moron couldn’t win a playoff game to save his life.

I was a Saints fan After Katrina!

and yes Jim Mortan is a moron.

Love a beat’in 49ers fan.

I remember that year.
Remember our first playoff...

…win in 2000? I swear we were going to burn the town down. And we beat St. Louis. That’s always a good day.

I saw this out of context

and thought you were NUTS. The Cubs beat the Cardinals in playoff game in 2000?

New Orleans Saints, St. Louis Rams.

Different sport.

Um I did figure it out by reading the actual thread.
I know.

I read it the same way you did initially, too.

Now that'd definitely be something!

LoL!

i hate you chad durbin
ShowcaseU Off the DL – Into to fire. Save against the Cubs tonight in 12 innings.
Read my

Fanpost!

Meh.

I’m going to go play MLB The Show. Need to finish off the Dodgers.

did anybody catch the tigers/sox fight?
yea
what happened?
Hit Cabera in the hand.

He stayed in. Seemingly fine. They hit Youkilis in the back. He charged, threw his helmet, and then the benches emptied out.

YOUKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kevin somebody on

BBTN made a great quote. “Kevin charged wrong. You don’t throw your helmet, you throw a punch.”

They also said the Tigers pitcher went the wrong way, should have drifted to third.
hahah
And chipped in that the Tigers' first baseman threw a whiff and should have tried to get Youkilis a little more.
It's all over ESPN!
sure did

Sox rookie pitcher nailed Miggy in the hand and Cabrera had to come out of the game. Bottom of the 2nd, Porcello drills Youkilis and he charges the mound, tossing his helmet at (and missing) Porcello.

A charging Youkalis is a scary thought.

He looks like a big ass punk.

Check that

He looks like a member of Hell’s Angels

his batting stance makes him look like a girl though
If Cubs gain nothing else from tonight

At least I think Lou is seriously going to re-think using Marmol in close situations.

By the way, this loss has officially earned me a “week away from baseball”…I can’t do this every night.

sure you can! It teaches mental toughness!
how's he supposed

to pee on his brain?

come on ak

hang in there with us. :)

Its more that

I feel like “what did I do” for the last 4 hours. I can go to the gym, run errands, hang out with my roommates. I’m starting to feel like im wasting my nights.

i hear ya.

but, this is my passion. And just think of how great the rewards will be if we can pull this thing out.

Good post, AD

I don’t care how the Cubs get in, just as long as they do. It will be well-earned.

why doesn't Lou just tell Marmol to throw strikes???
What makes you think Lou doesn't?

I’d honestly think he’d eventually learn not to pitch Marmol in close situations.

We cannot take the pain without your presence
Let's rethink Gregg too!

That’s three games now when he’s given up a game winning dinger! And that’s only, what, a series removed?

It was a good pitch

and it sneaked into the basket. Bradley hit the hell out of the ball just before that and it fell 2 feet short of the basket.

No luck. No breaks.

lou .... learn to use your bullpen and everything will be fine
Let's rethink everything...or not

Seriously, if these guys are going to win it this year, then THESE GUYS are going to win it this year. It has to be Marmol and Gregg, because these are the guys who can do it at all. If they have lost it, then the team is in deep doo doo.

This is definitely a low point. They need to start climbing from here, because they can’t afford to fall too far off the pace. At least the part of the season is over where we could count on everyone in front of them losing, because you can’t stay in the race like that and hope to do anything in the post-season.

I don't know what to say, really

It’s inexplicable that so many people with decent track records would combine to be so subpar.

I don’t think the game has passed Lou by. Changing managers isn’t going to help. It never does.

I don’t believe in curses, but as BigJohnAZ said, it’s tough to keep looking at what happens to this franchise and not put any credence into that at all. Makes no sense, but then again, nothing else does, either.

Hang in there, folks. Always darkest before the dawn. It’s not like they’re 10 games below .500 or anything.

very well said, NBF

we are 3 games back. and we do have 10 games against Pittsburgh in our future..

And the entire season series

against the Mets, and a slew against the Brewers, and at least three more vs. the Reds, three against the Padres, three more vs. the Astros …

Yes, there are plenty more chances. But for me, this might be the toughest loss of the year, because it’s definitely one the Cubs should have won. Had to win, almost.

I’m too old to cry, but it hurts too much to laugh.

The Pads are no longer pitiful

The kids have brought some enthusiam to the park. Mat Latos — a starter up from AA looks pretty damn good. I’m ready for the usual ambush at Petco Park, sad to say.

Yeah, they've gotten better

I still remember the Cubs sweeping the Pads at Qualcomm in ’03. Prior pitched the series opener and looked unreal, just coming off the DL. Ah, memories …

in my hell hole mind i feel like we're the Nationals
After the 7th inning

we kind of are. Your mind is not broke…this team is.

It makes me crazy sometimes too.

Agreed.

I can’t begin to describe how much bad luck we’ve had this year.

And the fact is, once we get out of this series against Philadelphia, our schedule becomes much easier. Let’s worry about winning the games here against the Phillies before we focus on Pittsburgh.

In addition

They certainly have had next to no luck this year. The baseball gods certainly have not been kind to them this year either. That makes the stretches of crappy play even more crappy if that is possible.

All those diving catches by opponents, all those drives that seem to be hit right at the other teams' players.
I can't remember another season

that’s had so many diving catches, so many great defensive plays by opponents.

First inning tonight, another example. Fox (I think) laced the ball to third base, but the third baseman made a nice grab. Saved a run.

If this team gets into the postseason, it might just be the most well-earned postseason berth for anybody in recent memory.

don't think you need to worry about post-season
The bottom line is

they’re three games out with 49 to go. You cannot pull the plug on that, even though I know it’s Cubs fans’ tradition to do so.

and, the bottom line is

we are only 1 game back in the loss column. 1 game with 49 remaining.

dream on if you must.......

but don’t bet your paycheck on them

did i say that though?

i’m simply stating the facts. And the fact is, the division is still right there in our sights.

the fact is they're plagued with injuries and playing like shit....

they’ll trail by 6 at season’s end

You don't know that

and I don’t know if they’ll win the division.

Why not see what happens instead of making a sweeping declaration?

If you’re going to say this now, then if they win 4-5 in a row, you must say they’re going to win the division. See how silly this all is?

nope......

I don’t care if they win 10 in a row they’re not making the playoffs. Just my opinion, and I’d bet on it.

BLou has a boyfriend!
HAHAHA!!!!

Perfect match too.

No, but he's one of few............

around here that say’s it like it is and refuses to sugarcoat the inadequacies of this years edition of the Cubs.

and your conversion

to the dark side is complete.

I guess maybe

it is Karma. We had some amazing/lucky games last year. We also were relatively injury free in 07 and 08. In the back of my mind, I felt this might be one of those years where there was a ton of adversity.

True, that

The Cubs got a lot of breaks the last year and a half. Now, perhaps they’re paying the tab.

no they were in the top 5 in runs scored, TBA, and ERA......

that ain’t luck

They were good and lucky

this year, with basically the same cast of characters, they’re not as good and not nearly as lucky.

they put constant pressure on teams last year and that.....

creates opponent errors which are perceived as luck. You create your own breaks so to speak.

Bradley

made some damn find catches last night.

DEAR AL,

I’m sure you never read these boards before you write a re-cap. But on the off chance that you do please take my advise here. Don’t sugar coat this game.

Destroy this team. Call out Marmol, Miles, and Lou Pinella.

There is no reason keep a positive tone anymore. This collection of player deserves to be drug accross the coals.

Please do so tomorrow.

we all know Miles is terrible

but really? he had one at bat tonight…

hahah it doesn't matter!
I don't think Al sugarcoats anything

Marmol deserves to be called out. Piniella doesn’t.

Miles? Of all the guys who have fallen off their career averages, he might be the worst.

What exactly was Miles' career average before this year?
Career average of .283 (including this year)

Never hit lower than .263 in six seasons. When you look at that, you can see why Hendry signed him.

also, remember last year?

he hit the game winning grand slam against us. it’s hard to imagine he’s the same player

Lou DOES deserve to be called out

How do let Marmol in when he clearly can’t find the plate and Grabow is warmed up. That was a HUGE mistake and one he has done over and over this year. For a guy who claims to hate pitchers who walk people I have no idea why he gives Marmol such leeway.

Yes he does.
I think you flipped the Names of Piniella and Marmol

Piniella f-ed up this game something fierce this evening.

Oh I’m sorry I forgot you were watching your favorite team…the Cardinals….tonight.

don't you want to dfa

heilman/? everyone else who can’t think past their nose does. that is the cubby-quick-fix-du-jours; no?

heilman deserves to be DFA'd
jesus

you are consistent; i will grant you that

That's Mr. Christ to you Mister!

:)

lol

again, sorry bcpd

No worries, really

I save my wrath for true blowhard (Blou, NBF).

Ha!

You are very much in that category, my friend.

ok, please send marmol to triple A, hire someone to teach somecontrol to this kid.

2nd, sign smoltz to be the closer, he can still pitch an inning.

sigh

is this a joke?

triple A is the best option for marmol at this point, he cant throw strikes, and the Rsox are going to release smoltz, I say lets give him a try, he is a national league pitcher

and let me clarify

I wasn’t being snide. I meant it’s sad what our bullpen situation has become. Last year, Marmol was automatic.

Out here in the hinterlands

Extra Innings treated us to Cubs Post game live! Just in time for Lou’s hissy fit! Great stuff! Wonder who asked him the question — “Frustrated with your bullpen?”

“So why don’t you sit down here and manage this team???” Nice stuff, Lou — way to melt down!

The thing is, SDSJM,

everybody in the Chicago media has been crapping on Lou for not showing sufficient “fire.” Whatever that is.

Tonight he did, and now he’s getting roasted for it.

Can’t win.

being in the spotlight of the chicago media is a double edged sword
Well, that was more of a stupid comment

toward a reporter than ‘fire.’ It’s his job to talk to the press. I hear what you’re saying, though.

Yeah, granted, but

he’s gotten thrown out of a game and blown up at a reporter in the last three days. I think people are underestimating how much this stuff is eating at him.

Fire is not blaming he media in a press conference

It is pulling a player out of game when he does not run out a grounder or having a little extra batting practice and not looking like he is asleep through most of the game.

I don't care how he looks during the game

Tom Kelly and Cito Gaston looked like they were dead in the dugout. How many World Series did those guys win?

Too many Chicago fans expect all the coaches to act like Mike Ditka. In other words, like an idiot. I don’t care how they act. I care about results.

Aside from the well-publicized incident between Andruw Jones and Bobby Cox, I can’t remember too many times managers have done what you suggest, Jessica.

I think Tom Kelly slept during games.
It is not that rare but even if you don't pull someone right out of the game

You can pull them out of the lineup for a few days.
One of the BEST things Lou ever did was pull Z out of the game when Z chewed out Todd Waker in the middle of a game for screwing up a DP.

I think that was Dusty in Houston

Right? I think I was at that game, actually.

Perhaps that’s already been done a few times, but we don’t know about it.

walker was with the cubs 04-06

so yeah, that was with dusty

Sorry I had one drink tonight and I am gone

And I was going to give Lou credit for something.

Fire is not playing Aaron miles under any circstance

….and shoving that to jimbo

i started a fanpost made specifically to vent

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2009/8/11/986167/come-here-and-vent
so come on, lets vent!

AAA really isn't a bad idea for Marmol

He has to get his shit together, and it’s not happening for him. Wake-up calls are necessary sometimes.

I agree wholeheartedly.
I'm starting to think it isn't a bad idea

From now until Sept. 1. Why not?

But he can't be optioned to the minors

Guzman needs to take over in the 8th right now instead of Marmol. Use Marmol in the 7th or other lower pressure situations until he starts throwing strikes consistently.

Is he out of options?

First I’ve heard of that.

im pretty sure hes out of options
From Cub Reporter

NOTE 2 – Neal Cotts, Mike Fontenot, Tom Gorzelanny, Carlos Marmol, Sean Marshall, and Ryan Theriot must clear Optional Assignment Waivers before they can be optioned to the minors

http://www.thecubreporter.com/cubs-40-man-roster

Or just trade him in the offseason

The bullpen is in need of almost total reconstruction.

or for heilman, for that matter

i said so weeks ago.

Why can't he be sent down?

I doubt if the Cubs have ever done so. He’s still early enough in his career that this can happen. The other idea, as you said (I think Brenly hinted at this) is to use him in less-pressurized situations.

needs to clear waivers
Well he could develop one of those useful injuries like Patton, Miles etc.

I would say instead of tired arm or groin injury he can get the new " I can’t find the plate" arm injury/

I find it hard to believe the Cubs have used up

all of Marmol’s minor-league options. But, of course I don’t have any facts to support my position.

That hasn’t stopped many on this site before!!

2006

I wonder how many times he came up and down under Dusty.

Doesn't matter how many times he came up or down in that year

It’s only one option.

He appears to have one option left.
i feel like a straight up baby boy right now.
Perhaps that's the case. Oh well. Maybe his options are toast.
There is this thing...right here>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I

called the Reply button.

It’s your friend!

Learn to use it.

My option is to go watch "Rescue Me."

Catch ya later.

Poker game is calling

Good night all. Thanks for letting me vent. Tonight I needed it.

oh, and also

good luck…

Question

Was that photo of Rothschild taken after tonights Marmol Meltdown or from a previous one?

Poor bastard.

So, is it Getaway Day today?

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