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You CAN Go Home Again: Cubs vs. Phillies Preview, Tuesday 8/11, 7:05 CT

At least, that's what the Cubs are hoping after a poor 4-6 road trip left them three games out of both the division and wild card leads. The Cubs are 33-19 at home, the NL's second-best home winning percentage (behind only the Giants). But more importantly, they are 9-2 in their last 11 home games, dating back to the July 11 win over the Cardinals.

They are up against a tough Phillies team that has the best road record (32-19) in baseball. However, the Phillies went 3-4 on their last road trip and just got swept by the Marlins at home. I think all of this shows that you can't judge what's going on in the 2009 season by any past measures. It's been a very strange year; teams (Blue Jays) got off to great starts and flopped; teams got off to horrible starts (Rockies) and then went on tears. The Dodgers led the NL West by as many as 9 games; that lead is in some jeopardy. The Red Sox once led the AL East by 5 games; now they trail by 5.5.

The Cubs have 52 games remaining and it appears it will take 90 wins (approximately) to take the NL Central. Can the Cubs go 32-20? They'll have to get healthy, stay healthy and start actually hitting with runners on base to do so. There's more, too -- team leadership, something Paul Sullivan touches on in his article today:

Flash back to [Koyie] Hill's postgame assessment of the Cubs' lackluster 4-0 loss to the Reds Wednesday at Great American Ball Park. After saying the Cubs lacked intensity and were "outhustled," Hill was asked how that could possibly happen, considering what's at stake.

"I don't know," he said. "The baseball season is a grind. It's my belief that what we're trying to accomplish, and what every baseball team is trying to accomplish, is bigger than one person and I think everyone has to be accountable for what they bring to the ballpark every day."

I like Koyie Hill, both for his attitude and his performance in Geovany Soto's absence. Frankly, I think he deserves more playing time. We know he's not a hitter, but his handling of the pitching staff has been outstanding. I do not believe it is strictly a coincidence that the Cubs are 28-18 in games Hill has been the starting catcher.

Star-divide

Today's Starting Pitchers
Rich Harden
Rich Harden
Cubs
vs. J.A. Happ
J.A. Happ
Phillies
7-7 W-L 8-2
4.41 ERA 2.74
124 SO 86
45 BB 37
20 HR 12
vs. Phi -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Rich Harden 7-7 20 19 0 0 0 0 104.0 95 57 51 20 45 124 4.41 1.35


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - J.A. Happ 8-2 26 14 2 2 0 0 115.0 92 35 35 12 37 86 2.74 1.12

J.A. Happ, whose given names are "James Anthony" and who played his college ball at Northwestern, is the Phillies' version of Randy Wells -- only a bit better; he may be the leading candidate for NL Rookie of the Year right now. He has never faced the Cubs; Aaron Miles went 0-for-3 against him last year when Miles was with the Cardinals (what a surprise, right?).

Rich Harden has started three times in his career vs. the Phillies, twice last year and on July 21 in Philadelphia, where he had a fine start (1 ER in 7 IP) but the Cubs lost in extra innings. His career ERA vs. Philly is 0.90. Current Phillies are hitting .162 (16-for-99) vs. Rich with only two HR (one by Raul Ibanez, one by Jimmy Rollins). Harden is 2-1, 1.80 in his last five starts with 41 strikeouts and nine walks in 30 innings -- much more like the Harden of 2008. We need that to continue.

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Lets start this series out the right way!!
I hope Harden

can manage to be decent opposed to the “ugh, awful” he’s been lately.

Doesn't it seem ironic that we're counting on him to pitch with so many starters injured?
Like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife

Did Alanis not realize she could go to any Taco Bell and pick up a spork?

That song kills me

I’m stuck playing it on a regular basis at my radio job…all her examples of irony…aren’t really examples of irony. Now, is that ironic?

Just play that one song she had about

going down on someone in a theater.

You mean this guy...

True story.

MY EYES! MY EYES!

I’ve got to go and scrub out the inside of my brain.

The worst part about it is...

…she admitted to it. Okay so doing it is bad, but then claiming it! Yikes.

Ugh

Sometimes I really wish I could “unthink” things.

EVIL!

What... you were imagining his orgasm face?

Oh, you weren’t? Sorry.

Sometimes

I really hate you.

Sorry Allie but that was really funny
Oh I laughed

Worf usually makes me laugh… but I still hate him sometimes. LOL

I do also sometimes (Don't we all?)
I have that effect on women
Cal would like

to have a word with you

You ARE evil for that Worf...

That’s sure a mixed story. Unusual and oddly fascinating yet very gross all at the same time.

I read the story about him admitting it in the press

He said that he called her after the story broke the song was about his former relationship, and this was a quote…"After then calling Morissette to ask what he should say to the press, the former lovers met for a day to work things out.
He said to the media about reports the song was about his former relationship, After then calling Morissette to ask what he should say to the press, the former lovers met for a day to work things out.

“And it was beautiful,” Coulier added. "It was one of those things where it was kind of like, ’We’re good’."
Uh huh, I’m sure she feels EXACTLY the same way. Beautiful…what an idiot.

How exactly did we spend this much time on Dave Coulier?!?!
Blame Allie

She’s the one who can’t get him out of her head.

Do you really want to have yet another conversation

on why the Cubs have sucked lately?

Cuz we can do that… or we can make fun of Alanis for screwing Uncle Joey.

Speaking of head...

…have you heard the story about Dave Coulier and Alanis Moorissette?

Is there anyone from that show

that didn’t end up pathic or a slimeball?

Say what?!

The last time he was awful was on July 4th. He’s been pretty good lately.

I wasn't talking about his performance...

But rather about how so many people were worried Harden was injury prone. Seems ironic that he’s one of the few left pitching “healthy” now.

They pack him styrofoam peanuts after every start

to protect him! LOL

Hey BigJohn

long time no hear from you. See you at a spring training game next year.

Great, I will be out there!

Hope you are well.

Reply fail goes to you.

I was replying to Allie, not you.

Doh! maybe the errors on the team are contagious to me...my bad...
Maybe "awful" was a little strong

but I’d like Rich to be more effective. 6IP, 2ER, 4 H, 4BB, 9 K is alright… but he could be better.

And I’m not a huge Harden fan so maybe thats part of it…

Just alright?

Ouch. That’s putting him at a 3.00 ERA. I’d say that’s pretty darn good.

4 BB!

4!

when you’re on a strict pitch count… get some outs. he drives me insane.

Point taken...

…but if Rich Harden can finish out 6 innings and give up only 2 runs, then the walks don’t really matter.

But I know what you’re saying.

it means he had a good quality outing

but that doesn’t mean i have to like it.

i just wish he’d pitch to contact more and make it easier on himself instead of relying on his stuff.

my worry is the innings

I hope he can go 6 or 7 innings tonight and give the bullpen a little rest….. b/c w/ spellcheck pitching tomorrow night. I have a feeling we will need the bullpen

I'll take that

compared to almost everyone else who has pitched the last 5 days.

Lately? You mean where he's given up 4 runs over his last six starts?

He was Ugh, Awful for a stretch, but lately he’s been very good. His last two starts, he was the victim of bad offense

I too like Koyie Hill, but with the difficulty of getting hits I doubt he's going to be in the lineup

Soto coming back from his injury may get a rest…but probably after this series. Let’s hope Harden can pitch well again…the Cubs sure need a pitcher to stand up and be a stopper right now. With a number of zero innings hopefully the offense can relax and score with runners on for once.

Lets put that road trip behind us and get a W tonight!
A win tonight would mean a lot to this team.

Anyone know the correct way to pronounce Haap’s first name. Is it J.A. or is it Jay? I’ve heard people in the media say it both ways…

Amen to that...

From the sound of it the trainer would benefit from it too, Lou said today HE almost pulled a hammy coming out of the dugout. A few wins would go a long way to letting Rami and the rest of the MASH unit we call the Cubs heal.

Double Amen

we need a win.

That’s poetry too.

Hmm...You're a poet and you know it?
After I re-read it I guess I am..
If we can win this series...

…we have the Dodgers on the road, mixed in with a bunch of beatable teams. Pittsburgh, San Diego, Washington, NYM (x2), Houston, Pittsburgh, Cincy…then Milwaukee.

Yeah I sure noticed that

If we can stay in the hunt things will get a lot easier for awhile. The timing of these injuries is bad, but if we can stick it out better days sure can be coming.

It's spelled "J.A." but pronounced "Jay"

The pride of St. Bede Academy in Peru, Ill. But I can’t cheer for him tonight. :)

I shoulda figured the ESPN guys were wrong. Thanks.
nah

pride of Northwestern Unviersity. Isn’t Peru south of the border?

Illinios has a Peru too?

Interesting.

Of course

It’s right next to LaSalle, just north of Oglesby, just east of Spring Valley and just south of Mendota. :)

Cool

Indiana has one too… Grissom AFB.

Yep

Played golf in Peru, Ind., a number of years ago. Really nice course.

I get on Soto's case a lot

But the starting staff did pretty good with him behind the plate too.

However, I do see the idea that a catcher should be a team leader. Soto is too young and so far, too immature for that.

But what the hell, this team has won with Michael Barrett behind the plate.

Caption for DLee photo ...

D Lee speaking for the team: “We couldn’t find a towel.”

this is the most critical series of the year;

a real guage of our playoff-worthiness.

LGC!

or gauge
Or if you work in an industrial settting

gage.

FWIW, I HATE it when it’s spelled g-a-g-e!

Need to add "so far"

If we pass this test, there will be others.

Caption:

Hey Miles! Run this back to the dugout for me!

Good Idea!

Demote Miles to bat boy!

Make that on the Iowa Cubs

That way no one is tempted to use him again!

Lou would still find a way to use him in a game

Just say no to Aaron’s

Perhaps the Aaron Heilman Sucks Fan Club

Should be shortened to just Aaron Sucks…seeing him in the lineup makes me ill.

yep there already is one :) It's a just say no to Aaron's (credit NIJ w/ the idea)

It is open to anyone who wants to join

The Aaron Heilman Sucks Fanclub approves of this here message
UGH...I wish I could go home again....I just had the WORST MONDAY OF MY LIFE.

Hard Drive Crash? Check.
Food poisoning? Check.
Cub Lose? Check.
Parent’s call to tell me they’re selling their house because they just got divorced? Check.

I need a Cub win really, really bad right now.

If you are for once being serious........... I'm sorry to hear that
dead serious this time.
OK...

You’re back up now… so yay

Feel better… don’t neglect the bathroom time

Cubs will win tonight

Dude… I’m sorry.

Sorry to hear that SWL.
Hope things get better for you soon
omg that is a lot of shit

All that in the last 24 hours.

gives SWL a cyber hug

Last spring when my life sucked…. the Cubs were there to help me out and take my mind off things.

Maybe this series they will do that for you :)

Have a Care Bear!

Thanks man. Right back at'cha Worf!

I forgot to mention that my wife and kids are out of town for the week visiting her sister in Las Vegas...

so at least I get to cuss, puke and cry alone.

Well it'll get better....

b/c right now it’d be hard for it to get worse.

Pedialyte is great for when you are getting dehydrated....
are ya saying he acts childish?

coz anything that replaces needed salts works, even powerade, gatorade

I've had the stomach flu many many times

(thankfully not in the last two years)

but I found Pedialite works the best hands down out of all of them.

Pedialyte is the stuff

It’s really, really good at rehydrating and making sure you’re not, um, yeah.

being a parent.... can't argue with ya there

but the main reason that doctors tell parents to give their children pedialyte instead of the others is the high sugar content in the others. For adults, not so much.

ok we can agree to disagree on whats best.

Im not a doctor nor do I play one on tv. Just my experience

Man, I'm sorry to hear that

If this were an office, I’d send a card around for you.

I can still do that at my actual office here, but people would wonder who santoswoodenlegs is.

Do it anyway....and please use this picture on the front of the sympathy card.

Bwahahahaha

I like the juxtaposition in that.

Well I lost my job and word of Maddux's retirement happened on the same day

Hard to imagine a worse one for me.
Not to be personal but I assume your parents told you they got divorced before now cause that would be freaky otherwise.

nope...had no idea. They signed the final papers June 30th and all the stuff in their house if already packed.

Blindsided.

wow

that really sucks. i’m so sorry.

You know if someone tried to sell your story

for a bad Adam Sandler film it would be immediately rejected as being WAY too unrealistic for audiences that watched
HAPPY GILMORE or THE WATERBOY

besides i dont see a way they can fit drew berrymore in the film
she could maybe be neighbor
that sucks

Sorry man.

Wow... that makes my unpaid parking ticket

and subsequent doubling of the fine a little easier.

Sorry, dude.

Sorry to hear that
my parents were married 30 years

and decided to get divorced; what a mess

yuck

now thats a crappy monday. :-(

hope things pick up, buddy!

I'm so

sorry Chad. Hope the Cubs win for you tonight.

This too shall pass dear friend

I hope you find solace and you know how to reach me if there’s anything I can do for you.

Wow

Sorry to hear about all that. Hang in there….

That sucks my friend. Hang in there.

I am predicting an Aaron Miles Grand Slam just for you.

wow.

that’s a bad monday. Sorry, dood.

Tonight is Ryne Sandberg Bobblehead day

Check out Ebay. 4 hours before the game some guy has 2 dozen auctions set up.

That Bobblehead is AWESOME.

I’m tempted to work my friend in the Cubs marketing department for one, but I think I’ll save that favor for playoff tickets.

Something is better than Nothing.

keep that in mind…..

I see what you did there...
Mine is waiting for me

I offered my tickets ( at face) to someone on BCB who wanted to take his son PROVIDED they got there early enough to get me
the Bobblehead. I got an e mail that it is safe and sound. His son gets the other one.

ARam Cortisone shot

Anyone mention this yet?

Link

pregame post
My bad

didn’t notice that part. 2-3 more games isn’t bad…if that’s all he misses.

I'll sure be interested to hear if they have the results of the MRI tonight during the game.
LINEUP!!

Theriot – SS
Bradley – RF
Lee – 1B
Fox – 3B
Soto – C
Soriano – LF
Baker – 2B
Fuld – CF
Harden – P

Looks like

a 3-4 run offense tonight. Rich needs to make that enough!

Is it sad when I only look for one guy anymore?

I’ll give you a hint, I get happy when he’s not in the lineup.

Soriano?
Hoff-Power!!

yeah, yeah…. he’s in Iowa…. just had to say it though

NOT in the lineup.
it's miles,

but i still had to say HOFF-POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

haha

Hoff had a good run for a while, but MLB pitching figured him out. Oh well, I always said he earned a shot and to let things shake out from there. I never said he was an everyday player, that was Clutche.

No Dome?
Guess Fuld

is better facing lefties than Dome? Either way…looks to me like it’ll be up to the 1-4 guys in the lineup…after that, I have not a lot of faith right now.

Yabbut

Dome hitting leadoff was something that was WORKING!

he doesn't hit often against lefties

but i still think Dome should be in there for his defense and his patience that sets the tone. Over under 7 guys left on base? I sadly think it’ll be over.

that would mean that they got on base though
under

don’t think there’ll be too many guys getting on tonite. cubs don’t do well against guys they’ve never seen. well…lots of teams don’t either…

I would have to agree w/ Jockey

When you are stranding baseball runners in double digit #‘s and play a team that w/ a great defense and someone Cubs haven’t seen. I’ll be happy w/ 3.

I think tonight we'll be able to get on base with some walks...

but i’m very skeptical with soriano, baker, or fuld hitting them in.

Lou said on the pregame last night he was resting Dome because he hadn't had a day off in awhile.

So I’m guessing Happ is a Lefty?

he had a day off yesterday

Lou is dumb

LOL

Blunt…but accurate.

and to think up until this year I was a fan of Lou
I still am a fan of Lou

but he needs to quit playing favorites already. If someone isn’t cutting it, bench them, if they’re hot, then play them. Heilman should have been DFA’d weeks ago. Soriano looks like he’s trying too hard and leaving too many men on base, sit him for a few days. Dome has gotten on base a lot recently, keep him in. How difficult is that?

Those are the reason I'm not

His use of the bullpen also gets on my nerves. Plus he seems so tired this year.

I'd sure agree he looks tired this year.

His attitude talking to the media just reinforces that. I think his moves with an injured club could be better, but he’s forced to work with some odd choices for replacements on the regs and hasn’t had much consistency in his pen to count on. I’d sure have used his pen differently in a few games, but I have no confidence doing it differently would have changed it a lot.

So 2 days in a row?
Happ is a lefty and that is two days in a row.

Still, with Fuld being a lefty like Dome it has to be a feeling Lou has. Considering that Theriot and Bradley have batted well lately in the 1-2 slots doesn’t seem to be something I’d complain about.

You'd rather have Fuld in there over Dome?
His grittiness does play well in the #8 spot in the order
I'd rather have hits...
...preferably with RISP

those’d be awesome.

hits with risp?

is that what kids are calling it these days?

if the cubs started scoring runs.....

I’d happily start calling it that (although I’m no kid @ 34)

Hmm I think it's a toss up batting, with Dome fielding better.

I think that Theriot has done an admirable job leading off with Bradley also in the #2 slot so it’s a little different replacing him in the #8 spot. I’d probably pick Dome, I’m saying it seems even enough that I wouldn’t complain about it. Doing it long term would be a different thing however.

Oddly I can't complain too much about it

considering some of the lineups Lou’s sent out there.

I love Fuld but why two days off for Dome

I would have rested Sori and put Fuld in LF and HAD HIM LEADOFF.

sadly i won't get to watch the game tonight as it's on comcast

you guys are gonna have to keep me up to date.

tomorrow's sharkdown

vs pedro is on espn, i belive

Gonna buy some rolaids for that one
i personally think Pedro will be rusty and we'll hit him pretty good tomorrow...

but it’s all about tonight…we need a win to set the momentum of the series. A blowout would be great.

national embarassment
that's a little harsh

do you have a crystal ball?

i guess i just dont have a lot of faith in this years shark
have faith

it emits good karma

I don't either, not until he gets another pitch.

But I have even less faith in Pedro. It could be a high scoring game.

I also look at it like this…who is Shark likely to beat? Pedro, Haap, or Lee? This is his best shot at winning.

He's not worried about those pitcher's hitting....

…it’s the other 8 guys in that lineup

No I wasn't saying the pitcher's hitting was going to beat Shark.

I’d like to see our worst guy go against their worst guy. Our worst guy just might suck less than their worst guy. Make sense?

So an 11-10 thriller, gotcha.
Exactly!
what?

no 23-22 affair?

Actually...

….that would be kinda fun to watch.

only if we won
Lou would run out of pitchers by the 5th inning...
good thing miles is back from iowa then
i see a torn rotator cuff in the future....
Get him on the mound IMMEDIATELY!
a thriller game

an one less aaron.

worse things have happened.

now that is a scary picture
weebles wobble but they don't fall down...
Wrong team, but you get the idea...

No tapes of game in which Shark has pitched...
Not. Gonna. Watch.

Radio only tomorrow for me.

i wouldn't miss that one

for the world

Tonight is a must-win

b/c Shark is starting (even though I think they’ll knock Pedro around) and CLee starts for them on Thursday. We need 2 of 3, minimum, and that starts tonight.

ESP - I was just writing the exact same thing

I think tonight is a “must win” game…

We're both

brilliant…that must be it.

nooooooo

not another guinness commercial

Hows it going everyone?

SWL, sorry to read about your shit-tastic day. Hang in there brother!

Interesting tweet from Ballhawk

It’s gonna be a full house tonite – the bleacher line is all the way down Waveland to the firehouse! Prolly down to Addison on other side

I've seen a fair number of Phillies fans walking around downtown.
Let's hope they left the batteries at home!
"I do not believe it is strictly a coincidence that the Cubs are 28-18 in games Hill has been the starting catcher"

Mostly a coincidence, Largly a coincidence, By and Large a coincidence?

Yes, yes and yes, but not strictly a coincidence.

Hill hits like a backup catcher but looked really good defesively.

Arroyo and Harang cleared waivers.

Yuck.

harang's star

has certainly dimmed. he was a #1 draft pick in 2001, i believe

Having Z go down and Rami as well in the series in which Soto returned

To me is a bigger difference than having Soto behind the plate instead of Koyie. I do like his leadership but the injuries seem to me to affect the team more than defense vs. offense of the catcher.

The S.S. Cubs be a sinkin' maties

Arrrrrr…

There you are...our resident pessimist.

The Cubs sure gave you a lot of fodder in the last series. I’ve been meaning to ask you BLou, why did you shorten your quote?

Don't take the bait folks....
seriously

its true, he does

i see him do it sometimes…

I've come to the conclusion

our fine friend isn’t a Cubs fan.

That’s all I’ll say about it. I said it so you don’t have to.

I was actually saying the same thing last week...

….when people were saying it’s Al. I don’t think he’s a Cubs fan either.

"He" meaning BLou, not Al, I presume

Personal pronouns can be a pain in the neck. :)

Grammar police!
just as long as it's not the fanpost police
or he is and this is just an act to get attention
His posts prove

that he screams for the last word you typed.

a different take on the "what does BLou look like?" question.

if he'd turn out to look like that

most of you guys I bet would be a bit more tolerant hehehe

My guess is

you could drop “Attention” from that and it would still be accurate.

but

according to him, he lives a full life and doesn’t need the attention

I just don't get why people give it to him.

He’d go away if everyone just ignored him.

But, but, but

he’s been a fan since 1977.

But for I think the first time ever................

He was actually funny in a ha ha sort way, not in his normal pathic attention way.

I am off to a bar to watch the game in NYC

Given my budget I don’t know if I can afford enough booze as the game my merit. Play nice without me.

Put the last

few games behind you and just win.

i think it is safe to say

that this is the biggest game in mlb 2night.

LGC!

LGC?
let's go cubs
oh ok

Won’t have gotton that in a million years.

What about HAF, saw that in a tweet yesterday and googled it but didn’t find an answer :(

HAF?

i’m stumped on that one…

Not sure about the context

but my guess would be “Hot As F**k”

Objectivity and the unvarnished truth are a bitch

But this diehard Cub fan does not shreik from his responsibility to tell it like it is. I could give a rat’s ass whether the resident doorknobs and drool monkeys want to question my allegiance to the Cubs.

83 wins. And no playoffs.

I think we can all agree

That “Drool Monkeys” would be a great name for a band

Again...don't take the bait.
actually, i find your posts tiresome

but 83 wins is not out of the question.

I wasn't questioning your loyalty one bit
Mine?

I’m loyal to my wife, my friends, my national soccer team, my National League team and my Formula 1 team.

That order?
Nah not yours chilango

Mine would be

1) family/bf/2 best friends
2) Football
3) Cubs

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