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Overflow Thread 3: Cubs vs. Padres, Wednesday 8/19, 9:05 CT

From Tuesday's game.

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Oh hai

A win thread!

Apparently we are winning.

Which is odd.

thank you for saying that

I was feeling bad thinking that

nice though
btw Dan going to any Badger games this season
I might go to the Minnesota game @ Minny.

I’d rather go to a Camp Randall game, but I think the game at the new stadium could be fun. And I’d love to spoil it for the Gophers.

I didn't get any tickets

but I figure I’ll be able to pick some up on Craiglist during the season if I want. Purdue plays UW on Halloween. That should be an interesting game

Wisconsin sports are going to be very bad this year.

If it gets real real bad, I wonder if Barry would consider firing Bret and coming back at coach. Bielema was one of the hottest young minds in the game three years ago, now we’re talking about firing him before the damn season even starts.

I agree

Thats why I am waiting to buy tickets.

It’ll be fun b/c I live here and get to gether w/ friends. I don’t think he’d come back and coach……….. but Bret has turned out to be a huge disappointment last year. I hope he can keep focus this year

Come on Cubbies...just win it
This could be the shortest game thread evar.
it better be!!
I'm sure it'll continue through the LA/Cards game
Just win, baby!
Hi, Al.

Davis that is.

Cubs Win

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY

Thank God!

Cubs Win!

Still a shutout?

Working at a newspaper you think I would be able to look it up …

No.

They got one.

CUBS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CUBS WIN ! ! !
CUBS WIN!!!!!!! FINALLY!
Fly it!

Cubs Win!!!

Abreu strikes out, 1 out top of 8th
This feels strange but good...

Way to play

the way you’re s’posed to

now let's hope the Dodgers win it in the 18th inning
Hmmmm....This is hard....I am in a pickle.....

Listen to the Cardinal announcers or Vin Scully…

The choice is clear….

into the bear pit………

I wish I could listen to Vin Scully
vin scullys the man
I still miss Bill King.
I think this team should be named "The 2009 Jekyll & Hyde Cubs".

We play like this and wow, we are shut-down good. Timely hits, excellent starting pitching. Other days, not so much. Talk about a roller coaster.

Respectfully, I disagree...

what did Harden limit the Phils to his last time out – 3 hits and 4 runs? He limited the Pads to 1 hit and 0 runs? It’s not the Cubs necessarily it’s the competition.

We didn't play HORRIBLY during the Phillies series.

Gregg blew the first game, and we started Shark in the second game. I’m hard-pressed to find anybody that thought Jeff has starter-quality stuff.

I see what you're saying

but I’m also saying that the Cubs pushed around a couple of nobodies tonite and got pushed over the other two. The Phils saw good pitching and crap pitching and spanked the Cubs every nite. That’s the difference between the two clubs.

We suck, I'm not disagreeing with that.
Finally...now Len & Bob can party with those blondes with the sign
No GIDP.

Two outs in the bottom of the eighth. Man on first. Kemp to the plate.

I guess it is safe now

stayed away from game threads all night.
A win , wow that IS nice.

welcome back Jessica.

good night, from La La land. :-)

I really like the Coors Light commercial w/ Herm Edwards

mostly because Herm Edwards was a terrible coach

and he's a world-class asshole
Tied..

…end of 8, 2-2.

Kemp flies out, end of inning
'The Crowd Looking at it with their hearts....'

I <3 Vin Scully

Heart of the order up...

…at the top of 9.

Broxton to pitch.

Here comes Pujols
But they're 4-30!

a .133 average, and Pujols has the only RBI back on Monday’s win.

but they've still won regardless :(
The first game.

They lost yesterday.

Oh I thought they won last night
Where's Milton?
trying to coax a walk back to the hotel, no doubt :-)
WhEr is Milton?
Having speaks with the dude in the Unitas Jersey I imagine.
Wow 98 mph on that last pitch by Broxton
too bad it bounced in the dirt
Too bad is wa-ay outside.

Albert walks. Bubble Gum is up.

Pujols walks

and the Dodgers are about to get a masters class on what to expect come playoff time.

Heartbreak.

I'm going to stay up until this 1/2 inning is over.

Then bedtime for me

Broxton is being far too careful.
Broxton looks Marmol wild
This has been Broxton for the last 3 weeks

Has been Kevin Gregg-esque, blowing – I believe – 7, count ’em- 7 saves.

Pujols is a smart baserunner

He will make something happen here. Watch

you called it!
but that was a pretty easy call

no offense lou

It is

He scored from 2nd on a fielders choice once. He is a machine. Martin has cost them at least 3 runs this series. I stopped watching Cubs games and watch only Cards vs. Whoever. Martin has gone down hill for months now

As I said in a the thread a lil earlier

I HATE the Cards, but I just can’t him.

Christ.

Another bad throw.

pujols steals 2nd and goes to 3rd on the throw
Broxton has been horrible lately

This probably won’ t end well

cardinals probably win
Kiss this one goodbye
I don't care what anybody says about hating the Cardinals

but when you like baseball you have to know that the Cardinals just did an absolute number on the Dodgers

That was beautiful

I would've held it.

Let Albert have second.

I agree as well

but the point was getting Pujols to second with Holliday at 3-1.

The ball getting away was a bonus.

that's just LaRussa proving once again

why he’s the best manager in the majors.

hmm...

…best in majors? Maybe.

i would say he's in the argument at least
Definitely in the argument.

Mike Scoscia would like to chat, as would Ron Washington.

3-2 now.

Pujols tags on Holliday’s sac fly.

Ludwick K's.
St. DeRo up.
I hate seeing Dero in a stinkin bird uni
Me too.

But I’ll take a groundout every time he faces the Cubs.

I'm not trying to be a jerk although it probably sounds like it....

but who cares about players anymore? Not to sound like Seinfeld, but isn’t it about laundry at this point with players going back and forth?

The days of Banks or Sandberg are long gone, so what’s with the crushes?

Good question.

But if a players has a really strong tie to an organization, then yes. Tony Gwynn for example, Kerry Wood is another.

Otherwise it’s very much a mercenary trade.

That's why I can understand the Kerry Wood thing

but Mark DeRosa? Gimme a break.

I agree.

Most of it though, is that we didn’t get a proper utility player to fill in the gap.

Blake ends...

..the threat. 5-3 put out.

RICH HARDEN has

I can't stand rooting for the Dodgers

buts let’s hope they score 2

When did TLR start going to LP LH matchup even in the 9th
Reyes

plunks Ethier.

Reyes is yanked.

Time for a Manny HR
Larry Rothschild would have let him work out his control issues.

LaRussa gives him one pitch and gets him out of there.

Nice.

He saw the score from the...

…Cubs. Doesn’t want to lose a game.

No doubt about that.

And LaRussa was working the LOOGY angle, so he was probably coming out anyway for the closer.

LETS GO MANNY

never thought id say that

I'm gonna work the reverse jinx here and point out

that Manny isn’t hitting right now. 2 for 35 or something..

No more female fertility products
not having the clear does that
Come on mannywood
Do you run on Molina?

I would.

Not with Manny up

maybe with one out to take away the DP and get in SP

Any updates
Runner on 2nd, 1 out
Manny...

…had a broken bat infield hit. Too slow, though. SS threw him out. Ethier is at second. Blake is up.

NO DP chance.

wow

how manny got thrown out on that is interesting

Argh!

If only Manny was a step faster.

1b = tie game
exactly

short of ending it with a walkoff, he did his job

Manny grounds out to Ryan, 1 out, ethier to 2nd
2 down - no movement
blake pops out

come on loney, pretend its game 1 of the NLDS

Frick.

Blake pops out to…uh, the 70’s porn star.

shit blake pops up
sorry guys...but cards are gonna win...loney isn't gonna do anything
full count
Molina...

…takes time. visits the mound.

And here comes Duncan to chat.
"throw strikes"
Cardinals Win

take 2 out of 3 from Dodgers in LA

Holliday gets Game Winning RBI

Franklin gets save

Ho-hum

Duncan out to the mound

Interesting to see a pitching coach with an encyclopedic knowledge of the batters go out to the mound to assure victory rather than put out a fire.

Good news is Dodgers look more beatable than the Pads
Seriously?
dodgers 4-6 over last 10 games
Don't get me wrong...

nothing I’d love to see more than a series win by the Cubs. Didn’t know they were slumping that badly.

Cubs 3-7 over last 10 games
yeahbut

2 of those losses were due to Gregg late inning HRs.

Yep.

And the Cards seem to have real trouble with a junk ball dealer like Haeger.

Both teams looked...

…really beatable throughout the series until Wainwright’s pitching clinic tonight. But even then, he was tired our far sooner than one might think.

Luckily

Neither team looked as incredibly beatable as the Cubs did versus the Pads :)

Say whatever you want, but...

the Cardinals have been getting better and better and better and the Cubs have regressed.

Truth hurts.

yeah because the dodgers are a great team right now
Regressed?

They won tonight, and looked fairly impressive.

I'm talking about the season as a whole.
You won't have much of an argument...

…from me on that point. It says something though, that the Cubs are still technically in it.

Pads have been playing like monsters lately, and it’ll be interesting when the Cards go to PetCo.

Yes, the Pads have played well

However, they have played well v. every team BUT the Cardinals. I don’t have much faith in the Friars against the Cards, who OWN them

That last game...

…the two played in New Bush was pretty competitive. It goes the other way if the Pads are at PetCo I believe.

The Pads were competitive

But, as the Cubs find ways to drop games to the Padres — The Friars find a way to an “L” against the Cardinals. It’s been at least 5 years of utter domination by St. Loo.

Think we could peel Tony Gwynn

away from SD State and his part-time analyst gig, and make him the new hitting coach?

Or, at least, get him to work one-on-one with Fonzi?

Cardinals are hitting on all cylinders right now

the Padres are….well, the Padres. you don’t get to 20 games under .500 by accident/

how far would that last pitch have been hit if it was Gregg closing?
Shite.

Game over.

“Albert Pujols Beats the Dodgers with a Stolen Base.”

“we await the arrival of the Cubs” so we can beat ’em senseless.

I hate the cards

Bush league crap.

What was Bush league about that?
Martin got baited by the best
I don't understand...Stealing on a 3-0 count

with a pitcher who couldn’t find the strikezone was bush league?

I am agreeing with you

It was genius

Broxton wasn't paying attention

He can barely find the strike zone any more, let alone hold a runner. He’s struggling terribly. Heads up play by Poo Holes.

Rockies

only 3 1/2 back now

Good - I hope the dodgers fall to second, helped along by the Cubs this weekend
I don't hold out for the Rockies.

If the Dodgers can’t pull it together, SF will take the division.

The Dodgers, as I have said earlier

are floundering, and have been since the beginning of the 2nd half.

Broxton — you saw a glimpse of how bad he has been lately. He’s been Gregg-eqsue, blowing (I believe) 7 saves in 3 weeks.

The Cubs could/might have a good series in front of them.

Broxton/Gregg

Difference is, Dodgers have Sherrill who can close. Dude is lights out.

They are very fortunate to have Sherill.

However, the team is in a massive slump. We know how that looks.

Massive Slump

is overstatement. They are struggling in close games and their closer is burnt out. Watch for Sherrill to close against Cubs and Dodgers to right the ship against the struggling Cubs.

Sorry,

LA was unbeatable the first half. Now, they can’t wrap up a game against the D-backs. I call this a very, very bad slump — which they can certainly pull out of.

I’ve watched this team a lot. They just don’t look the same at all. All of the key hits in crucial situations have dried up.

I have a good feeling about this upcoming series. Complete opposite of the night sweats that happen when the Cubs are in SD.

If you watch the Dodgers a lot

as I do, then you know they are in every game. Yes, Broxton is struggling and it has hurt them a lot lately. But, they have a contingency plan, which looks pretty darn good right not. Fix the closer situation and they will start winning again. I wouldnt place too much significance on losing 2 out of 3 to the Cardinals – the Cardinals OWN the Dodgers. 28-11 against them the last three years. Cubs are a whole different story. Dodgers have won 5 of last 7, including the NLDS last year.

I don't consider post-season records at all.

Yeah, lately the Cubs have had problems with the Dodgers. However, as is well known the all-time series is seperated by — is it 1 game?

Chavez Ravine/Los Angeles has never really been the black hole that San Diego has been for the last 20+ years. Maybe in the early years of the park, when the Cubs sucked and Sandy Koufax was pitching, but over the last 15-20 years, playing in L-A…games are not automatic “L’s” as seems to be the case in San Diego.

Cubs

have had losing records against the Dodgers in LA 4 of the last 6 years, including the last 2 years. Not sure how that equates to confidence that they will play well there this year, especially when they go in having lost 7 out of last 10.

Except they don't use him to close
See if they don't

starting this weekend. This is exactly why they picked him up – as insurance in case Broxton struggled.

Well I hope so but I wish it were not THIS weekend.

He is on my fantasy team where holds are not a stat and has been virtually worthless since the trade. Leave it to the Dodgers
to let Broxton screw up saves Vs the Cardinals and wait till the Cubs come to town to use Sherrill.

TLR & Torre...

…have a deal. If we can screw the Cubs every way possible, we can make this a two-way competition.

I am listening

to the Dodgers post game fan call in show right now, and topic #1 is Sherrill replacing Broxton as closer. As you might expect.

Not really surprising if he's blown...

…that many saves this year. 7-blown saves, are seven more games they could be up on the Rockies.

I’m researching this idea for bringing in Hoff to assist Marmol.

Actually

he’s only blown 5 saves. But three of them have been in the last 3 weeks.

From what I've seen...

…everybody out of the pen could feasibly close.

But Sherrill *has* closed

He had 31 saves last year on a bad ballclub

My "No" was to the rest of the LA Bullpen as 'closers.'

Sherill has most certainly closed, and I can see him taking the role from Broxton.

I know

the pressure is intense to move Sherrill into the closer’s role in LA right now. I predict it will happen this weekend.

When I was at the Dodgers-D’Backs game saturday night, when Kurouda got drilled by a line drive, Dodgers fans sitting behind me said “Too bad it wasn’t Broxton”.

Sherrill...

…has closed, but everybody else throughout the series has been pretty damn efficient.

Dodgers have a nice bullpen

but Sherrill has closed and he will take over for Broxton soon.

The first half, yes.

Not now.

Not true

Sherrill, Bellisario, Troncoso, Mota, Kuo and McDonald have all been pitching well lately.

Too bad he's...

…under control through 2011.

Hendry better be looking high and low throughout the offseason.

Putting Marmol in the slot is the right move

He needs to prove he can do it. It’s that simple. He had a crappy spring, ruined by the WBC. Gregg coasted through the Cactus League with 9 saves against AAA players who were in the game by the time he stepped in.

His AZ record decieved everybody, perhaps even Lou. Marmol never got his act together. I think he thought he’d have a shot to close, and management was apparently unhappy he chose the WBC over Mesa.

Had there been REAL competition — who knows? He’s young. A guess — but I think his confidence was shattered. It then spread into the season, and mushroomed.

This could be a great change.

I'm not sold...

…on the WBC being the cross Marmol has had to bear. Maybe, but I don’t think it’s the entirety of the problem; while I still think that there’s some funk left over from the “100-years of Suck”, Marmol needs some work on mechanics.

If he can find his control, he’s definitely the go to guy. Perhaps a veteran closer could be brought in to help him out? I would’ve pursued Trevor Hoff like gangbusters last off season.

Did the Brewers sew him up for multiple years?

I don't believe so.

No more old closers. Develop Marmol.

Gotta go!

It looks like the Brew Crew

…gave Hoff a 1-year contract. So what about bringing the all-time saves leader into the organization to close out some games, and teach/train Marmol?

The Cubs may be the closest Hoff will ever get to a WS these days.

And, Manny hasn't been Manny since his return to Mannywood.

Nothing is working very well in the Ravine.

See you there Saturday.

I'll be there...

…on Saturday if they have walk-up availability.

They will have tix.

Day games don’t draw as well as night games. There will 45K, but seats will be available.

I may have to try it.

Drive from Oakland is going to be a pain in the ass, though.

ooh

Go on line first. I didn’t realize you were driving that far.

I'm supposed to visit family in SD,

so I thought about stopping in on the way down. I may just try and get there on Sunday instead.

and I'll be there Friday nite & Sunday afternoon

look for an old guy in a BCB tee!

Going tomorrow night!

Look for someone with a blue t-shirt with a big “Cubs” logo on the front, with a former traveling road Cubs cap (red brim, blue cap, red “C”).

You were there tonight right ?

You deserved to see a win after the first two.

No, I only went to the first game.

Check the other threads to see my comments regarding the first game of this series.

I saw them but for some reason thought you were going to all the West Coast games.
That was my initial plan.

Can’t spare the cash, though. Times are tight, y’know.

I had thoughts about going to tonight's game,

But by the time the game started, I was on I-5 north of San Diego in Camp Pendleton.

Couldn’t make it.

I only went to the first game in the San Diego series.

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