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Overflow Thread 2: Cubs vs. Reds, Wednesday 8/5, 6:10 CT

From Tuesday's game.

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I declare this

The massive comeback thread!

havent had one of those in awhile
We've seen them

come back from worse situations so Yeah, go Cubs!

is it too late to convert Miles into a pitcher?
How about converting him to a power forward?
Maybe for a JV team
PH Fox and Hoff...

Seems like some of these guys have packed it in for the night.

Fuld PHs for Hill
Fox in to pinch hit too!

so… Fox is going to catch!

I'm too sad for more Aaron Miles facts

anyone else have any?

He sucks...

Fact.

That 70s commercial with the crying Indian?

Aaron Miles made him cry.

ok maybe one more

Aaron Miles once weakly ground out to 1st, from the on deck circle.

you can jumble the letters in his last name and get SLIME
Fuld pinch hits

flies out. unpossible.

Fox PH for Shark
Gregg warming
What? Why?
So he can suck like everyone else, I guess
I thought his arm was tired?
more awesome managing
The great Sam Fuld

goes down like the rest

Fox flies out.

Oh, juh jen sh guh kwai luh duh jean jan…

I was gonna say

If you’re past Season 5 in the X-Files, you’ve gone too far.

we're in

season 5. We’re going to slog through. Carter REALLY lost the thread in season five…

Not that some of the eps in earlier seasons weren't silly

But it gets pretty ludicrous after that.

at some point

Moulder goes away, and we have the Terminator.

That's Season 9, I think

Really not worth it…

no season

eight at least, no? Weren’t there two years of no Moulder?

Sounds about right

I think I’m repressing the memory

lol

we have the first movie with the DVD set as well. My wife says we have to get the second movie too. It lasted, what, two weeks?

If that

Saw it in the theater – wasn’t really impressed.

she's OCD

we need to watch it simply for completeness’ sake.

Not going to get any closure, BTW
not HELPING... :P
I'm telling you

Quit now, while you’re ahead. What you think you’re missing is far better than what you’ll actually get

unfortunately

that’s not going to work with her. But thanks for the advice. :D

Watch your mouth?

:)

Radio listeners beware

No Ron for the Rookies series, either

will they get

Moreland?

I kinda doubt it
Gao yang jong duh goo yang.
Lehr at 101 pitches
BB doing his Ronnie impression :D
LOL...

BB with a Ron impersonation.

Horrible

Worst no-show by this team in months.

Crappy soft-tosser on the mound...

It was to be expected.

I guess

but this no-name hasn’t thrown 8 shutout innings since Pony League.

is that actually true?

he was pretty good in AAA.

Magic...

Was his nickname.

Dome FO8

Mid 8, 4-0 Reds

oh well

took the series

would have been mindset if gregg did not blow game. needed to make up for that.
huh?
if gregg did not blow game in florida we would have 2 out 3 there and tonight you can shake it off with 2 out of 3 in cinncy too.

but tonight sucks more when you think of their journeyman minor league starter and we have 0 runs. and that blown game in miami. obviously you take 4-2. but i do not take 3-3 when we very easily could and probably should be 5-1.

let's take the series in Denver

and go 7-3. It’s road baseball, going .500 is nominal.

especially considering

how bad the Cubs have been on the road

no way we sweep colorado in denver. they are palying very very well.

should be thinking of split to be satisfied at best go and I mean at best go 3-1.

alright

I’d be happy with a 6-4 road trip.

ya at face value. but not with greggs disaster and tonight quitting b4 game started. this guy throwing CG shutout is inexcusable for a team like cubs.

Lou is more mad than any of us. believe it.

I hope you take

a chill pill before Friday’s game. You are way over the top tonight.

you need to relax too. you have no power over anyone.
Legend reference?
what?
Labrynth, not Legend

Through dangers untold and hardships unnumbered, I have fought my way here to the castle beyond the Goblin City to take back the child that you have stolen. For my will is as strong as yours, and my kingdom is as great. You have no power over me.

From memory?

Nice

I had

about half of it. Had to look up the rest.

I'm not the one typing all

in bold all night and bitching about every thing. I am relaxed thanks.

just going out of your way to antagonize and attack. on something when I am right.

Sit back relax and TRY to learn a little about the game of baseball and professional sports sweetheart. Effort is not something that should change from game to game in any professional sport, even more so when a team is trying to win.

LMAO!!!

Seriously get over yourself.

get over yourself. What power do you have over anyone here?

What knowledge do you possess? I know more than you will ever forget. It is amazing what you learn when you ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME SWEETHEART. And listen to people who know about the game.

please

this is NEVER a productive line of comment. If the only people allowed to talk about baseball where people who had played, this blog would have eight people on it.

Just drop it.

and one of them would be BLou. haha
I did not say that. do no put words in my mouth.
you continue

to be out of line, my friend. Dong-ma?

you continue to be blindly loyal and your lack of knowldege and insight is embarrassing.
dood

you got so fed up about a comment about sports, you called someone a derogatory word.

THAT is embarrassing.

You speaking a different language in a sports message board is embarrasing.

and me calling her that had nothing to do with sports or the cubs and just her pesonality and treatment towards me.

speaking a different language is embarrasing?

lol…

you’re overreacting. Turn off the TV, go have a beer or something. I do it too.

By the way great move posting about your son on a cubs message board. I work in law enforcement and in the interest of your family and your son. I would stop posting pictures of your son and his baseball team on a pubic forum where any old sicko can use that information. Nothing personal but in my line of work just take it at face value and believe me. Its not in you or your familys best interest only bad things can happen no matter how obvious it is that you love your son and are proud of him. Not trying to be mean just offering professional advice.

and you're overreacting more.

but thanks for the concern.

no I am not if you knew what I did. and that is not intended to be mean. Just professional advice. It is a public forum and gives people information to baseball fields and they can find times and dates.

It brings in to play the rest of the families on your sons team. At the very least I would get their consent before posting pictures of their sons on a public forum like this.

the team schedule

was posted on the internet. In fact, the whole league schedule was posted on the internet.

The pictures I posted focused on Max.

I’m done with this.

there were some of others.

just understand it is part of my job. Whats the benefit of doing it? Why not be safe?

I don't live in fear

I chose to share my pride with my friends.

It’s not part of your job to attempt to chastise me over pictures I post. Thank you, and good night.

your not just providing it with friends. this is a public forum of unlimited people.

people who visit here that you never know. it is not smart especially when it involves other children. at very least keep it to your own son. If I found out someone on my sons team posted a picture of my son on public website I would be livid. Trying to help you out and educate. the world is not all flowers. It is nothing personal and you can tell how much you love your son and are proud of him. But I repeat and urge you to reconsider. It is not smart. email them to your friends. do not post them for whole world to see.

I can't believe I'm jumping in on Drew's side, but

you’re being a bit ridiculous right now. What the hell is the point of giving unsolicited advice about what information about his son he should post?

Because part of my professiona history. I am trying to help.

I know more about this than both of you. NOT trying to be snarky just trying to help and educate.

nobody's asking for your help

and you WERE trying ot be snarky. In the middle of an argument, you went “by the way, you’re gonna get your kid hurt”

I’m done with this too, I never should have jumped in, but……chilling is not bad advice for you right now

fuck you man and drew and that dumb dyke sue.

I am done with idiots around here. trying to help out and get jumped on. Fuck Al and his stupid little warning and control attitude. BAN ME. HOPE YOU AND YOUR EGOTISTICAL ALTER EGO DEEP GOAT WHO WAS NEVER EVER RIGHT HAVE FUN.

Weren't you just telling people they had no power over you for telling you to relax?

And now you are upset about people not taking your unwanted advice. Hmm.

Please read your posts and try to refer to yourself as a professional. This is a fan site about a GAME. You have so little control of yourself you have to resort to name calling fellow fans over disagreements about a GAME. I can’t believe you have had much success in law enforcement if this is your personality.

You should know better, as much or more than anyone else how inappropriate that is. Don’t know if you’ll be around long, but you owe Sue (another) apology as well as Drew, Al, and the rest of us who were subjected to this stuff.

I just keep reading your worsd and thinking how disgraceful and unnecessary. This is not life and death, it is entertainment. Please keep it in perspective.

Flagged.

Oops. Bad mistake

considering the subject.

and do not call me dude old man.
OLD???

牛糞・牛粪

kudos to you, drew

for keeping your cool during this interchange…

I'm only 38

the AARP Spam is in error, I swear it!

Watch your language and attitude.

Stop NOW.

Silver lining, either way, we're still in first.
Percentage points rock!
strike..strike..strike..strike
how frustrating.

the few balls our guys hit square are at someone.

Ai-yah. Tyen-ah...
I'll be impressed

If you start posting the Hanzi

are you kidding?

I can’t even find the Hanzi.

Absolutely embarrassing effort tonight. Understand getting beat by better team on any given night.

Hate to lose and look like no one cares. way too many fundamental mistakes tonight combined with lack of intensity and effort.

Gregg in to pitch

At least he can’t get the BS

makes himself eldigible for the W
Lets give the BS to Lou for playing Miles
and for putting your closer out there

in a non save situation, after he couldn’t come in DURING two save situations because he had a tired arm

Lou’s management continues to baffle

Balentien 5-3
I hate that jackasses

name

Wladimir?

What’s not to love?

Nix Ks

End 8, 4-0 Reds

WOW! Gregg, 1IP, 0H, 12 Pitches
Just like Harden's first inning
Kevin Gregg

pulls a 1-2-3, Mr Irrelevant today.

We could use a few 1-2-3 innings when we have the lead, Kevin!

yup not a big time pressure guy. wilts under pressure. see above.
cmon

he was NAILS up till the two blown saves. It happens.

Where was this in florida gregg?

I know where, nowhere to be found because you have no nerves or intestinal fortitude. NO blown saves at home in less pressure filled environment. But on road in adverse conditions he chokes big times and gets hit harder than a Chick on Prom Night.

hes been doing better

than I expected from him this year

doing better than you expected.

most home runs given up by any relief pitcher. translation AWFUL. led NL in blown saves last year and is on his way of doing it again. I guess like me your expectations were not high.

obviously they were quite low
Riot PH for Miles
I know this game is frustrating and all

but we are not going to win every game against teams like Cinci. Sometimes the team is just flat and sucks for the night.

Pack your stuff and move on to tomorrow against Rocks.

Another getaway day loss

And an off-day to stew on it – not happy about that

off day?

there’s no game tomorrow? Tai-kong suo-yo duh shing-chiou sai-jin wuh duh pee-goo!

uh-oh prepare for the end of the world posts
Yup

Good day to stay away from BCB

agreed
ya and I agree normally. but lack of effort and no intensity is what is inexcusable. missed tag. pick off. milton pulling up on foul ball. having to wait on fontenot to get to first. miles well being miles.
every team looks like they suck from time to time
but effort IS something that should not suck from time to time if you want to compete.
MY point is every team has mental breakdowns that seam like there is no effort.
good god man you are

driving me crazy tonight,

you are crazy you dumb dyke.
TOTALLY UNCALLED FOR DUDE!
so is her attitude. being all over me. calling me out for having an opinon. i was being respectable. and even agreeing some. just offering my opinion.

I have seen how she operates. Knows nothing about baseball and has her favorites both in here and on field. If you disagree with her she goes on a crusade after you and she has no power here. all she offers is cheering and saying poop. this is a baseball board about cubs lets talk about baseball. I understand she does not know baseball. she could at least try to learn. People here know the game and have played the game. she has not.

There will be contentious arguments here from time to time.

I have gotten in a few myself. But there is never a time for name calling.

your right. should not have said that and I feel bad for doing that.
Good of you to admit that.

Now be a man and apologize to Sue for calling her that ugly name.

I see it below,

at least you had the balls to apologize.

should not have called her a name and I apologized. End of story no excuse.
wow.

over the top. You do need that xanax now.

name calling always solves things
going out of you way to attack someone who slightyl disagrees with you is better. you seemed to have made it pesonal.
your right and sorry for calling you a name. inexcusable but you been on me like white on rice just because you disagree. and to be fair you do it to everyone if they attack your "favorite" players. I call it like I see it.
might I suggest just ignoring him

it’s really not that hard.

i know she was out to pick a fight and thats what she got.
Damn, I can't believe I started this sub thread.
Congrats!
you might as well

gun HOE-tze bee DIO-se.

or

跟猴子比丟屎・跟猴子比丢屎

:P

Wait, Drew, what language is that?
Firefly

chinese.

grow up and speak in english.
first I'm old

now I need to grow up?

我的媽和她的瘋狂的外甥都・我的妈和她的疯狂的外甥都
Wuh duh ma huh tah duh fong kwong duh wai shung.

Mandarin Chinese or some other dialect?

I’d like to learn some more.

(Mandarin Chinese, that is)
oh

I don’t know. I’m googling “Firefly curses”. I think it’s Mandarin. Clutch16 called the characters “Hanzi”, I think they’re also called “Kanji”.

Aah, that's a little too much.

I was referring to more mainstream Mandarin Chinese, I really need to start learning some more.

please dont let this

guy get a shutout against us

G'day all!

Am I in time for the comeback win?

as in

before it happens?

not looking good, huh...
the fireworks

are not for us. :D

How far is Canberra from Brisbane

I’m moving there in November

pretty far

I’d guess similar distance as Atlanta to NYC.. roughly anyway..

No, sorry.

Been a while since you’ve been here, how are you?

Been enjoying a great vacation..

with very little email access so is great surprise to find the Cubs have moved up to first… I think they were 4th when I left..

Yes, they are 14-6 since the all-star break.
That's great!

I’ll be catching up on box scores, after I catch up on sleep.. have been awake for ~38 hours :P

Yikes!

Sleep well!

Should have had Theriot in all night

he has seen more pitches in one at bat than Miles has in 3

Riot FO8

Too high

warning track power from Riot
Gamecast shows a lot of

change ups left up in the zone,

Byen dahTAHmenduhBAY joGOluh.
Rami FO6

Game over

F'n pathetic

Can’t afford for the whole team to take a mental night off when you’re in a pennant race.
Inexcusable.

If they all decided to just take this one night off all at once

I’m ok with that. Let’s get it back together on Friday up where the air is rare.

why would you be okay for taking night off ever in professional sports. compltely inexcusable.
Because over 162 games, you can't expect total concentration at all times from all players

Guys get distracted, or tired, or lazy, or sick, or hungover. Them’s the breaks. What you hope to see is that it’s not a habit.

So we had a crap night – shrug it off. Laundry day tomorrow and then we can get the bats going again in Coors.

I do not think thats too hard to ask for. I think Jim and Lou would agree as would the vast majority of ball players on every team.
actually

now that I think about it, having an off day tomorrow isn’t so bad for the players; let’s them acclimatize to the altitude.

It will help them get used to it, too.
your reasing and beliefs are absolutely shocking.
you don't agree, then?
you don't think altitude is a factor?
Now Geo can legally get high. :)
Have you been waiting all season to use that one?

Good, anyway.

Naw, just came to me.
totally agree

over 162 games teams are going to look like crap on any given night.

how many of his 117 pitches

were changeups?

if they're all that speed then what are you "changing?"
Wow, and we thought we had a winner with Gorzy yesterday!
well, we did!

:D

Crap

Got to get some at Coors. Enjoy the off day.

well.

I’m having a hard time getting particularly upset about this, honestly. This is exactly the kind of pitcher that makes us look like crap. Took the series. Let’s go beat the crap outa the Rockies.

I agree 100% drew, especially after St. Louis' loss earlier today
stl's loss makes this worse in my opinion.

add colorado’s loss, i think they lost, and the cubs blew an opportunity to inch forward. very disappointing.

baseball is a game of numbers. we're still in first.... technically at least....

let’s go beat the rockies…..

Lehr

This was his second start of the season. Before that, he hadn’t appeared in the majors since 2006.

You hate it when the game is over with none out in the 2nd....

You watch 8 innings for naught

Maybe, just maybe

Miles’ performance has earned him a DFA.

A man can dream, can’t he?

if that happened

it would almost make this loss worthwhile. He has no business on a major league roster.

I come back from 3.5 weeks of vacation

and lo and behold, the Cubs in first place!

This is good news right? Or are we expecting they don’t lose any the rest of the season?

No kidding, we lose perspective sometimes.
For Cubs fans

 or certainly for long-term fans:

losing perspective = losing mind :)

Some of us

Always expect that

I don't expect them to win every night

At the same time, I don’t expect them to get 4-hit by a career minor-leaguer.

look

Lehr isn’t fantastic, but he’s not a career minor leaguer. Four years in the majors. He did some good work in AAA. It’s not like Gorzelanny wasn’t in the minors this year, and we were VERY happy with what we got.

The loss sucks. But it’s not like we were playing a college baseball team. Any MLB team has the ability to beat any other MLB team. Even the Nationals have won games.

lack of effort is what is troubling.
eh.

I don’t like it, but I’m not sure that’s what we saw. No-speed junk-dealers have long been the Cubs’ achillies heel.

Something I hope they start addressing

if not this year, in the offseason. Why do we seem to have less plate discipline against this sort of pitcher?

I really don't know.

granted, I haven’t followed the Cubs for very long, but it’s been an issue for as long as I can remember.

Well...

one theory would be lack of scouting and that maybe they don’t have any video on the guy. This of course assume that they rely heavily on video to determine pitching tendencies.

Fontenot missing a tag. Fontenot going slow when covering first on a bunt. Milton pulling up on foul ball.

Miles being relaxed and well miles being miles. Shark not holding runners on. Koyie Hill throwing behind runner. Way too many early count outs against a guy that walked 6 last time out. a lot of that shows lack of effort. and did you watch the game they just looked slow and not into it? I ask cuz I know sometimes you do radio. It just did not look good out there tonight.

I listened on the radio.

obviously, it wasn’t good.

He is 32. This was his second ML start.

325 appearances in the minors vs. 67 in the bigs.
Yes, anyone can win on a given night, but this was a terrible performance for a team in a pennant race.

oh

I agree that it was a bad performance.

how in the hell do we play aaron miles.

he has no discernible skill. i think he might be the worst player i’ve ever seen, and he’s quickly becoming one of my least favorite cubs of all time. he simply has no business being anywhere near the field.

I'm saving all my disgust for Todd Hundley

But Miles has quietly moved into the second spot on my list.

A like-minded person on Todd Hundley!

He couldn’t do anything. And was bad at all of them. I guess Hundley was a minus 5 tools player.

Hundley

did get us two quality players for 2003…so he was not totally worthless in the end.

Yeah. HUndley was break-even

Because he got us Grudz and Karros. Those two turned out to be mensches.

I doubt we’d get a teabagging in exchange for Aaron the Nutscratcher.

He can't hit

He can’t throw
He can’t field

He may be

the worst player on a ML roster.

Milton Bradley

the Chevy player of the game — only Cubs player to reach base more than once.

放縱瘋狂的結・放纵疯狂的结

no TOO MUCH GOOD STUFF?? :)
that's onna TV

I dunno. Was there any?

I dunno

I was stuck at work and watching gameday.

I saw nothing, heard some from a patients room though, CUBS ARE DOWN 4-0.

Ah, well. Get the Rockies on Friday for me!

that was a joke .... oh well

when the hell can the cubs take first place by a game….

hey at least no more koyie hill at the plate .... but he was awesome defensively ;(
lol

ryan theriot: 1 ab- 10 pitches
aaron miles: 3 ab- 8 pitches

Tee wuh duh pee-goo.

踢我的屁股。・踢我的屁股。

what does that even mean?
Yeah. What does it mean if your pee is gooey.
who cares he is just trying to show off.
Kick me in the bottom... lol
I see your google fu

is strong…

Shows who should be starting at SS from now on.

I wasn’t a fan of Aaron Miles before this, now I am even less. You need to know how to take pitches!

I should never look at pitching matchups again...

Rich Harden against Sandy Koufax, I mean Justin Lehr. 2 out of 3 seems like a letdown.

I can just picture what happens if Miles gets released… St. Louis picks him up and he hits .300 again.

Cedeno was a hell of a better backup than Miles. Miles may actually be worse than Neifi, at least Neifi played nice defense. Altough, weren’t there rumors that Neifi was a jackass in the clubhouse?

3 out of 4 in Colorado sure would be nice, wouldn’t it?

Why oh why

Does Lou Pinella hate winning so much??

NO MORE AARON MILES!!

He should have STAYED on the DL

And you know what?

I am blaming this loss and every single other loss the Cubs suffer for the rest of the decade on Aaron Miles. Even if he’s cut tomorrow. Every single loss is Aaron Miles’ fault.

And Lou’s for actually playing the loser.

(BTW, sorry about the reply, I accidentally posted before I finished my rant)

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