The Jason Marquis trade was controversial at the time it was made. Many here disliked Marquis for providing fifth-starter performance for more than fifth-starter money. There's something to that, but especially last year, Marquis did as he was asked. The deal wound up being a bad one, in my opinion, because it was made for salary reasons (in part, to afford Milton Bradley's deal) and the player acquired -- Luis Vizcaino -- turned out to be useless and was released.
Marquis, who somehow always pitched well in Coors Field, has prospered there, making the All-Star team and keeping his ERA under 4.00. He's even pitched well after the All-Star break, something he has never done before in his career. His sinker works in Denver; this is something other breaking-ball pitchers have gone to Coors with and failed.
It's time to pay back Marquis -- and the Rockies -- for this deal.
Speaking of deals, will the Cubs acquire anyone via a waiver deal this month? Jim Hendry says "maybe":
"It's hard to say," general manager Jim Hendry said of whether the Cubs will be able to add another player. "We're not in the upper echelons, but our record's good enough where we don't get first cracks at some guys. We'll see. If we find something that makes us better, we'll try."
Right now, I don't see anyone out there who would be available by waiver deal -- and who wouldn't cost a lot in terms of players or money -- who could really help the Cubs. I don't want John Smoltz -- I think he's done -- and with Ted Lilly due to return in 10 days or so, the Cubs are going to be OK for starting pitching even with Carlos Zambrano going on the disabled list, given the apparent revival of Tom Gorzelanny. Fortunately, Z's DL move is retroactive to August 2, so he will be eligible to return on the 17th, and Lilly should be back by then as well.
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Jason Marquis... well, what can you say. He was the guy many here loved to hate, but he's been rejuvenated as a Rockie. He handcuffed the Cubs on April 15 at Wrigley Field and has a 3.79 ERA in nine starts at Coors Field this year. However, several Cubs used to light him up as a Cardinal -- maybe they can pick that up tonight. Derrek Lee (16-for-33, 2 doubles, 4 HR) and Aramis Ramirez (9-for-21, 2 HR) lead the hit parade.
Ryan Dempster threw very well in his last start last Sunday in Miami -- that's what we need from him tonight, the guy who pitched so well last year. He has not had much success in Coors Field -- a 15.23 ERA in seven appearances (three starts, 13 total IP), but most of that came from two horrific starts he made in 2001 and 2003, comprising six of those innings and 16 of the 22 earned runs allowed. Against players currently on the Rockies he's done much better -- a .211 BAA. Only Todd Helton has hit him well -- .389 (7-for-18) with 3 HR.
TV tonight is, for the third game in a row, cable-only, CSN Chicago and FSN Rocky Mountain. If you are outside of Bud's Idiotic Blackout Zones, you should be able to see the game on the MLB Network. For other games today see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
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Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Vincent Padilla is available
Also I think Ponson
( now ducking)
Doggie Stalker - August 8, 2009
A resounding "no" to Sir Sidney
Let him beat up people on Caribbean beaches for the rest of his life.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 8, 2009
Padilla?
Attitude problems, from what I hear. Oh, and a 4.92 ERA and 1.50 WHIP. No thanks.
Al Yellon - August 8, 2009
Don't look at me
Anyone who can’t get along with and take advise from a Maddux does not deserve to pitch in the MLB let alone for the Cubs.
Just pointing out what is out there.
Doggie Stalker - August 8, 2009
CC's no-no no more
Elsbury got a hit.
Doggie Stalker - August 8, 2009
Good luck Ryan.
I hope the Cubs bats are on fire tonight.
sue369 - August 8, 2009
caption = waddup baby bradley
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
......
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
wow
is it quiet in here…
Allie - August 8, 2009
echo
echo…
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
yeah
slowest game thread ever?
weird.
Allie - August 8, 2009
Saturday game threads are always pretty slow
Clutch16 - August 8, 2009
true
but yeesh.
Allie - August 8, 2009
We'll get our quota of ledge-jumpers and sunshine-pumpers
Once the game actually starts. Probably.
Clutch16 - August 8, 2009
true
and i’ll go find dinner instead when that happens (leaning toward turkey pot pie!)…
its starting to pick up finally, though.
Allie - August 8, 2009
I had brats
Mmm…brats.
Clutch16 - August 8, 2009
I'm having chicken
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
I had deep fried pork from the Mexi-hood.
To. Die. For.
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
I'm gonna miss Mexican food even more
Up here in the frozen North.
Clutch16 - August 8, 2009
You're back in the frozen north?
Allie - August 8, 2009
Yup
For good this time, or something approximating it…
Clutch16 - August 8, 2009
Good thing or bad thing?
Allie - August 8, 2009
Good thing
Until November, anyway – we’ll see how I feel then…
Clutch16 - August 8, 2009
Well thats good
winter isn’t that bad!
Allie - August 8, 2009
Fargo?
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
Indeed
“Authentic Mexican” here means Taco Johns. Oh, the humanity!
Clutch16 - August 8, 2009
BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHA
The horror. Their tater tots, or “Potato Olés” are yummy though. However, not a single cuisine in Mexico has fried potatoes…
It’s easy to fake a Mexican meal with ingredients found anywhere. If you’re interested in some ideas, let me know.
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
Went to high school 30 miles from the border :D
I can whip up my own stuff, it’s just that all the ingredients are canned. Canned green chile sucks dead gophers through McDonald’s soda straws.
At least Atlanta had a big enough Mexican population to support a lot of markets (and taquerias). Fargo – not so much…
Clutch16 - August 8, 2009
Paradiso, baby!
Had an excellent meal there while in Bismarck last month. Mexican Village is another choice.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 8, 2009
Paradiso looks like its always packed out
I may check it out on a Sunday afternoon. Kinda doubt they’ll have menudo, though.
Clutch16 - August 8, 2009
Yuck
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
True story
During high school, I worked in a kitchen with a little old Mexican grandmother. She was counting the days until she could get her Social Security, but she could still crank out the food. But if you got Carmen mad, even just a little, she’d grab the biggest knife she could find, point it at your belly, and say, “I’ll take your menudo out!”
Funny every single time…
Clutch16 - August 8, 2009
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
I never thought of “it” that way. Very clever.
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
This is the slowest game thread
I’ve ever been in. I’ve been in my fair share too. I look in a lot also. Very slow. It is getting better though.
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
Only 1:15 to game time!
And I think a lot of people are tired from all that typing in the Recap thread
Clutch16 - August 8, 2009
I'm still shellshocked from last night
The vitriol was a bit much.
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
Wasn't that bad when I joined
but that wasn’t until overflow 2…
Allie - August 8, 2009
I said something like
“This is a pivotal series. I have this feeling in my stomach…” and got jumped. I’m in a frail state of mind.
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
I'm sorry you got jumped
that sucks.
Allie - August 8, 2009
Thanks
Super Troopers was on TV, so I watched that.
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
Wow, lucky I went to bed when I did.
Sounds like things got ugly in here again.
Vermont Cubs Fan - August 8, 2009
I'm glad I wasn't in here
Heck, I barely watched the game. I watched 2 innings, and got frustrated.
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
I couldn't watch the game
(stupid csn) so i checked gameday and saw z hadn’t started… so i logged in here.
by the time I got here, it was close enough of “over” no one was really upset anymore.
Allie - August 8, 2009
Had to work this morning at 7 AM.
Another morning shift tomorrow, so again, I won’t be on here much.
Vermont Cubs Fan - August 8, 2009
I've had the same feeling though
Especially before we left for FLA, this stretch is tough.
Allie - August 8, 2009
After this and the Philly series
We only have 10 more games against winning teams.
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
Unless Milwaukee and/or Houston go over .500 again.
Al Yellon - August 8, 2009
11, actually.
3 @ St. Louis
4 @ LA Dodgers
4 @ San Francisco
Vermont Cubs Fan - August 8, 2009
And how many of the other teams
are within a game or two of .500?
Allie - August 8, 2009
12 actually
we still have that one game with the White Sox to make up at some point. Although I don’t believe a date has been set so we may not have to play it.
burncruisin - August 9, 2009
I agree you got jumped
and I did defend you. I hope it doesn’t happen tonight.
sue369 - August 8, 2009
I <3 you sue
Thanks!
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
I got your back.
You’re a good guy.
sue369 - August 8, 2009
Yep
we like jose! :-)
Allie - August 8, 2009
Thank you girls
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
I apologize
for leading the jump. If Sue says you’re a good guy, that’s good enough for me.
A victory tonight will make things at least a bit less edgy around here.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 8, 2009
Interesting stat
Stats_MLB: The #Rockies lead #MLB with 68 quality starts this season. Four different Rockie starters have at least 12 quality starts this year.
Allie - August 8, 2009
Cubs are 2nd with 67, in fewer games.
Al Yellon - August 8, 2009
Thanks!
I wondered where we were on the list… but wasn’t quite sure how to figure that one out.
Hopefully this doesn’t pull us into a “quality start is a bogus stat” discussion. Again.
Allie - August 8, 2009
Quality Start is a Bogus Stat is a bogus argument?
Clutch16 - August 8, 2009
After the game...
Cubs and rocks will be tied.
Zy Toro Young - August 8, 2009 via mobile
oh HELL NAH!
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
We need to win today
If we can split this series and pull out 2 of 3 against Philly, I will feel good about this team.
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
Splitting this series
is exactly what I wanted going into it. Of course, winning the next three would be great, but winning two games in any four-game series is realistic.
Two out of three against the Phils would be nice, and it’s realistic because the Cubs are playing at home, where they’ve been exceptionally tough. I thought the Cubs-Phils series in Philly was pretty even. Phils blow out Cubs one game, Cubs do the same another game, and the third went 14 innings (or was it 15?).
Not Bruce Froemming - August 8, 2009
I thought
13
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
13 it was
Good recollection.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 8, 2009
......
shake n bake - August 8, 2009
HELL YEAH!
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
Heilman and Miles for him
G ETI TDO NEJ IM
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
NO NOT MILES
jesus christos - August 8, 2009
SORRY HE'S TO VALUABLE
SORIANO DOES NOTHING, TRADE HIM!!!
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
+ADAM LIND
Clutch16 - August 8, 2009
3 TEAM DEAL
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
omg
his face exudes confidence.
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
He can have whatever look on his face he wants
if he keeps hitting .310/.346/.495 while playing average defense at 2nd
shake n bake - August 8, 2009
HELL YEAH!
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
I guarentee a win, and I'll tell you why.
I just moved into a new apartment, and just a few hours ago I hung my W flag in the living room.
PUT IT ON THE BOAAAAARRRDDDDDD
dtpollitt - August 8, 2009
never say that again
jesus christos - August 8, 2009
nah man, he's channeling his inner hawk. Everybody has an inner hawk.
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
i dont
jesus christos - August 8, 2009
search deep inside and you will find it. STRETCH!
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
Oh hell no.
That’s just wrong.
sue369 - August 8, 2009
lol
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
the only inner Hawk I have
finds its way into the porcelain pool every morning.
bombs away!!
LAcarl519 - August 8, 2009
....
dtpollitt - August 8, 2009
Aw you are forgiven. :D
sue369 - August 8, 2009
ee-YES!!!!
Vermont Cubs Fan - August 8, 2009
Why aren't
Bradley and Miles on waivers? This could be addition by subtraction
ChicagoRobb - August 8, 2009
Bradley is useful in the 2 spot and great against LHP
Miles knows where Hendry buried the bodies
shake n bake - August 8, 2009
They probably were both on waivers.
And not claimed.
Al Yellon - August 8, 2009
Really? Isn't that made public and we would've found out?
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
no they don't make it public.
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
at least not on purpose.
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
10-4
Thanks good buddy.
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
waiving your two big offseason acquisitions
while you’re tied for first?
GITITDONE, JIMBO!
Allie - August 8, 2009
hr to game times..... let's go! let's go! let's go!
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
Watching this Yankee/BoSox series
is fascinating… earlier in the year Boston was on fire and looked awesome. Now, they look like hot garbage.
Allie - August 8, 2009
thats what happens when your RF, DH, and catcher players are offensive blackholes
jesus christos - August 8, 2009
VMart?
Is a black hole?
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
varitek
jesus christos - August 8, 2009
I know
But catcher isn’t a black hole anymore.
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
true
but its hard to integrate a catcher into a staff midseason. Varitek still calls a really good game.
Allie - August 8, 2009
Brandon Backe is available
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
not that he's good or anything..... actually he's terrible
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
If the Astros cut a pitcher
You know he ain’t good…
Clutch16 - August 8, 2009
Am I the only one who reads his name as
Back’ne?
Allie - August 8, 2009
Like this:
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
Woah
Just… woah.
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
yeah
that would be the stuff.
Allie - August 8, 2009
Oh. My. Gosh.
Vermont Cubs Fan - August 8, 2009
Oh, look!
It’s a sailboat!
Clutch16 - August 8, 2009
holy hell
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
Sorry for the nightmares...
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
scarred me for life …. lol
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
anyone got a lineup yet?
bbates6 - August 8, 2009
yep... and you aren't gonna like it
theriot
bradley
lee
rami
fukudome
soriano
soto
miles
dempster
Allie - August 8, 2009
What the...
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
really?
jesus christos - August 8, 2009
yep
gameday says.
i really really wish i could tell a story that horrible.
Allie - August 8, 2009
what the hell is lou smoking?
jesus christos - August 8, 2009
Steroids?
Clutch16 - August 8, 2009
He calls it "the reefer."
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
I don't know, but I think I'll pass on it.
Vermont Cubs Fan - August 8, 2009
I'm kinda hoping for you to say
August fools or something
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
Aaron Miles
might be the worst Jim Hendry signing ever.
Unique - August 8, 2009
I liked it when it first happened
He was always a 300+ hitter. Now, it’s terrible. Plus the fact that Lou keeps running him out there.
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
.300 hitter with on OBP, Power or defense
shake n bake - August 8, 2009
no OBP, Power or defense
shake n bake - August 8, 2009
He's had
A decent OBP
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
just from the average
a .300 hitter with no power, sub par D and didn’t walk much.
better?
shake n bake - August 8, 2009
hated it when it happened. continue to hate it.
buckmulligan - August 8, 2009
hmm.
this is his career line:
.284/.324/.358/.682
Season:
.197/.233/.252/.485
Allie - August 8, 2009
The only quarrel I had with the Miles signing
was that it was for two years, not one.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 8, 2009
At the time, me too
but now I see even the first year was a big mistake. The fact that Fontenot has stunk most of the year has only opened the door for Miles to play more.
Harry Pavlidis - August 8, 2009
i wish
truly i do.
this may be my least favorite lineup ever. dome was doing awesome in leadoff… riot leading off means he’s going to try to steal the second he gets on base, miles is playing…
ugh, lou. just UGH!
Allie - August 8, 2009
How long until Blanco is "healed", again?
Clutch16 - August 8, 2009
Aug. 19
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
Miles is at 2nd right?
why not Baker or even Fonte?
shake n bake - August 8, 2009
apparently lou felt that fukudomes .300+ BA and .400+ OBP wasnt enough for a leadoff man
jesus christos - August 8, 2009
well sadly he also has the 4th best SLG and ISO of the regulars (Lee, Rami, Sori)
so they could kinda use him in the middle of the order.
shake n bake - August 8, 2009
why mess with something thats working?
jesus christos - August 8, 2009
I said above it's not what I would do
but it is justifiable, unlike Miles’ being allowed to play anything but bat boy.
shake n bake - August 8, 2009
i agree
jesus christos - August 8, 2009
no kidding
dome and bradley were the only ones doing anything last night… and now they’re all shuffled.
i’ve defended lou for lots of things (except his bullpen habits)… but this is stupid.
Allie - August 8, 2009
Lou makes me want to cry.
sue369 - August 8, 2009
bright side?
this is just crazy/stupid enough to work?
yeah. i got nuthin.
Allie - August 8, 2009
exactly
even though i despise the bradley signing and his lack of anything that resembles a big bat, if hes playing like a leadoff man or #2 guy, put him there. if fukudomes playing like a leadoff guy or #2 guy, put him there, no need to put them in spots they arent capable of playing
jesus christos - August 8, 2009
eeww Miles
besides that I guess I’m ok with it.
Dome
Bradley
Lee
Rami
Sori
Soto
any other 2nd baseman
Demps
would be my preference
shake n bake - August 8, 2009
I'm bad at writing full lineups
Dome
Bradley
Lee
Rami
Sori
Soto
Riot
any other 2nd baseman
Demps
shake n bake - August 8, 2009
ahhhhhh
dome not lead off?
miles playing?
bummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmer
bbates6 - August 8, 2009
Someone needs to
take Lou’s pencil away from him. Why can’t Dome be in the leadoff?
sue369 - August 8, 2009
And
why is Miles still playing on this team.
Unique - August 8, 2009
He'd be pretty good...
on the Pirates.
Any high school baseball team named the Pirates that is.
Unique - August 8, 2009
Drew's son's team should sign him!!!!
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
These guys are pretty sharp, IIRC
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
Lotta great football
in Galena.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 8, 2009
Yeah, they wiped the floor with everyone in sight when I lived in Dubuque and kept up with that stuff
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
wow, i was shocked to see Galena Pirates
I’m also from Dubuque. I’ve covered Galena athletics for the Telegraph Herald. They indeed have a great football program, but they lost some key guys to graduation so I wouldn’t expect as much out of them this year, but Ed Freed is a pretty good coach so I wouldn’t out it past them.
burncruisin - August 9, 2009
wouldn't put it past them, I mean.
burncruisin - August 9, 2009
he resembles a backup SS
jesus christos - August 8, 2009
That seems to be
the million dollar question. I wish I could answer it for you.
sue369 - August 8, 2009
o.0
seriously? Ew.
drewishdrewid - August 8, 2009
omgggggggggggggg
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
Oh boy Lou panicked
I knew either Dome or Bradley were going to the five hole eventually. Lou’s desire for the lefty in the five spot to produce runs isn’t going away.
nji232 - August 8, 2009
Loved your frustrated Tweet last night.
chilango2 - August 8, 2009
Miles??? WTH???
Invalid User - August 8, 2009
so Miles walked in on Lou watching Spanktravision at the hotel, right?
what else explains his ability to get back into the starting line up?
LAcarl519 - August 8, 2009
Before condemning the lineup
why don’t we wait to see how it produces? How’s that for an original thought?
Not Bruce Froemming - August 8, 2009
If it works
great.
but its not one i want to see ever again.
Allie - August 8, 2009
You're not going to believe this..But I agree
I did like Dome leading off, though. Theriot has been good there at times, so let’s see.
BleedsbluinMI - August 8, 2009
Well maybe ;-)
I really do like Dome in the leadoff spot though but Miles should never be in the lineup. IMO
sue369 - August 8, 2009
I was hoping if I just ignored the Miles thing, it would just go away.
Really, I was hoping after the injury the stint in the minors would get him going even a little bit. I think he takes a little too much flak, but he really hasn’t contributed much in any way. Make me eat my words tonigt, Aaron!
BleedsbluinMI - August 8, 2009
You're not going to believe this ... but I agree
on all counts.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 8, 2009
Gettin scary.
I’m out, bring home a win. Marquis is due for a cruddy outing.
BleedsbluinMI - August 8, 2009
I want all the
players to do well when they play but it seems some guys get more chances than they should and some who do well when given the chance don’t get another chance. I don’t always understand Lou’s logic.
sue369 - August 8, 2009
alright but
can you give me a good reason Fukudome is hitting fifth when he hits .325 with an obp of .436 in the leadoff spot? Isn’t that what a good leadoff hitter should do?
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
Lou would rather have his top 4 SLG/ISO guys hitting 3-6
that’s my best guess.
shake n bake - August 8, 2009
sadly, you're probably right.
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
i just don't get it
when soriano was tearing it up in leadoff, lou refused to move him down.
when fukudome is tearing up in leadoff, he finds the first opportunity to move him down.
Allie - August 8, 2009
Allie, Allie, Allie
There you go with the logic and Lou’s lineups…=)
BleedsbluinMI - August 8, 2009
sorry!
lol
Allie - August 8, 2009
Some things can be condemmed on theory alone
Even if Theriot goes 3-for-4 tonight, putting him in the leadoff spot because Fontenot is sitting (which has to be why Fukodome is going to the 5 spot) is just poor tactically.
It’s like Dusty starting Jose Macias because, well, he was on the 25-man roster so Dusty felt like he should start some games.
Invalid User - August 8, 2009
I never mind people commenting before the game.
usually the more they hate the lineup the better it does (except for Miles, he usually lives up to expectations)
LAcarl519 - August 8, 2009
cards threatening .... and pujols grounds out to third
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
call the world .... wainwright has a no hitter through 3
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
dialing
BleedsbluinMI - August 8, 2009
ronny's up! Let's go Ronny!
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
uh oh
Why don’t we just give the game to the Cards.
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
CALL YOUR SONS CALL YOUR DAUGHTERS CALL YOUR FRIENDS CALL YOUR NEIGHBORS
ADAM WAINRIGHT HAS A NO HITTER GOING INTO THE 4TH
jesus christos - August 8, 2009
FTFY
shake n bake - August 8, 2009
lol
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
Going to miss most of the game, maybe catch evryone in the this game is boring b/c we are winning by 10 runs thread
BleedsbluinMI - August 8, 2009
You'll be missed.
sue369 - August 8, 2009
thanks, Sue! Go Cubs!!
BleedsbluinMI - August 8, 2009
I won't be able to chat with you.
Gotta work again tomorrow morning, will be here for some of the game.
Vermont Cubs Fan - August 8, 2009
Back from dinner.
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
Miles starting again.
What the hell, man? I mean, seriously, what kind of logic does Lou give for this? Chicago is a big ass city; surely one of the reporters has asked him this by now. And if not, they are all failing at their jobs.
Just the sight of his name in the lineup alone really pisses me off.
kanderber - August 8, 2009
neifi gave miles his personal blackmail on hendry
jesus christos - August 8, 2009
I miss Nefi
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
No, you don't
Trust me.
Not Bruce Froemming - August 8, 2009
Damnit, Rockies announcers again...
It’s been forever since I’ve heard Len and Bob. The Reds crew were all three games, and now the Rockies for the first two. WTF??
kanderber - August 8, 2009
Is the comment box
Kinda messed up for anyone else too?
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
just refresh
lexmarklover - August 8, 2009
Still wierd
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
JUMP
wrigleyrocker12 - August 8, 2009
marquis
yes this was a bad trade. obviously marquis would not have won 12 games the way the cubs have played but he still pitched some good games for us. hendry basically gutted this team to pick up bradley and now everyone is paying for it. imagine if we still had wood,marquis, and derosa instead of bradley. i would be thinking playoffs in oct instead of a golf date.
NOMAR - August 9, 2009
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